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BBC ordered to stop recording a protest in the public lobby of parliament today
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Protest about what, we're the protesters causing a disturbance to the running of the house or was it peaceful, we're the tv broadcasting crew helping it hindering the situation? Can't comment unless full details are known about the event. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is why you fuck off the mainstream, paid for by you, media.
It's a disability protest, that has been going on for weeks anyway. Peaceful one, that's why you haven't heard of it. |
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can't say I'm surprised they would not feel too happy to broadcast a protest in parliament where all the over paid MPs are having people question/embarrass them in their own building..
I hear the protest was over the disability benefit cuts so no wonder why they were protesting/pissed off. |
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after a quick google search and news read according to the guardian, the protesters were chanting "cameron killer" and "no more deaths from benefit cuts" there is a video enclosed to.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/23/disability-campaigners-occupy-parliament-over-benefit-cuts |
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watched it earlier and had a few friends there its disgusting they were stopped from filming but also surprising they covered it they avoid most demos over here also its got a lot more notice for my fellow dpac members and todays protest than we would have got otherwise |
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"Did they have explicit permission? Otherwise it's not censorship, just enforcement of regulations. There is a process to obtain permission"
probably not but then again the BBC in the long term or bigger picture wise do not care if they have permission to censor or not as it is their broadcasting footage.
It more or less boils down to what their bosses have to say/decide and if they want to censor it for the better or the worse their going to do it. |
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"Did they have explicit permission? Otherwise it's not censorship, just enforcement of regulations. There is a process to obtain permission"
the bbc had permission to film in the lobby but because dpac got in to the lobby they were told they cant carry on with the protest in the background
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"Did they have explicit permission? Otherwise it's not censorship, just enforcement of regulations. There is a process to obtain permission
probably not but then again the BBC in the long term or bigger picture wise do not care if they have permission to censor or not as it is their broadcasting footage.
It more or less boils down to what their bosses have to say/decide and if they want to censor it for the better or the worse their going to do it."
the bbc didnt sensor it it was apparently under the order of blackrod at houses of parliament bbc would have carried on filming for a change |
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" the bbc didnt sensor it it was apparently under the order of blackrod at houses of parliament bbc would have carried on filming for a change"
really? I didn't know that thank you for sharing that detail with me, the plot thickens indeed with this revelation but just goes to show who was behind it then.
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" the bbc didnt sensor it it was apparently under the order of blackrod at houses of parliament bbc would have carried on filming for a change
really? I didn't know that thank you for sharing that detail with me, the plot thickens indeed with this revelation but just goes to show who was behind it then.
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yea as a seasoned activist I know the government especially the staff at the commons love to play down protests and pretend everything is fine the papers mentioned 20 that managed to get inside but i hear a lot more were outside |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But where does it end? If every disgruntled group thinks they can advertise their case by getting on t.v. that way there would be thousands there every day |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want"
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it |
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it"
in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship |
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship"
My point was, where does filming end? Are you saying that every night we should turn on the news to see who has stormed the house that day? |
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship
My point was, where does filming end? Are you saying that every night we should turn on the news to see who has stormed the house that day?"
if meant things would eventually change for the better then yea why not or should we stick to not filming even a quarter of protests and people staying asleep to the fact we can fight back against the government as a lot still are |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship
My point was, where does filming end? Are you saying that every night we should turn on the news to see who has stormed the house that day?"
If the people filming it deem it newsworthy then YES. It is their job.
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship
My point was, where does filming end? Are you saying that every night we should turn on the news to see who has stormed the house that day?
If the people filming it deem it newsworthy then YES. It is their job.
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No it isnt |
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well yes it is thats why they are proffesional news reporters and journalists or please tell me why the disabled being up in arms about the way the government treat them is not newsworthy when half the stories on national news are lot less important even worse on local news channels |
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"yea as a seasoned activist I know the government especially the staff at the commons love to play down protests and pretend everything is fine the papers mentioned 20 that managed to get inside but i hear a lot more were outside"
interesting, I myself have never gone to protests or plan on ever going to one either but I have family members who have in the past participated in them..
so I find it interesting to learn about what the cause is of said protest, although sometimes a protest is not always the best approach in accomplishing an objective it's better sometimes to take a more practical approach in certain cases which have more effect depending on the situation and cause. |
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"there often is they just dont report on it and if were disgruntled at/by the governments actions its our duty to protest or should we just lie back and let them do what they want
That is not the question here or the point of the post is it in answer to your comment where does it end then yes it is the op was about the bbc getting forced to stop broadcasting nothing to do with the group who were there or them getting on tv it was todo with censorship
My point was, where does filming end? Are you saying that every night we should turn on the news to see who has stormed the house that day?
If the people filming it deem it newsworthy then YES. It is their job.
No it isnt"
sorry i dont understand, so the journalists, film crew and news editors dont decide what the news is about ? If its not their job whose is it ? |
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"yea as a seasoned activist I know the government especially the staff at the commons love to play down protests and pretend everything is fine the papers mentioned 20 that managed to get inside but i hear a lot more were outside
interesting, I myself have never gone to protests or plan on ever going to one either but I have family members who have in the past participated in them..
so I find it interesting to learn about what the cause is of said protest, although sometimes a protest is not always the best approach in accomplishing an objective it's better sometimes to take a more practical approach in certain cases which have more effect depending on the situation and cause."
very true as i said activist not protestor sometimes a march or demo is pointless and things have to be done in many of different ways also a protest with a counter protest can sometimes just mean trouble and upset for people who live in the area and still not achieve anything |
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" very true as i said activist not protestor sometimes a march or demo is pointless and things have to be done in many of different ways also a protest with a counter protest can sometimes just mean trouble and upset for people who live in the area and still not achieve anything "
different cases and scenarios require different sets off actions or reactions in dealing with them..
depending on the demos some can be minor or low key/petty with maybe an arrest or two nothing major but the big ones where the coppers are out in force and violence breaks out in the surrounding areas and mass arrests etc happen is when things spur out of control for people.. |
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" very true as i said activist not protestor sometimes a march or demo is pointless and things have to be done in many of different ways also a protest with a counter protest can sometimes just mean trouble and upset for people who live in the area and still not achieve anything
different cases and scenarios require different sets off actions or reactions in dealing with them..
depending on the demos some can be minor or low key/petty with maybe an arrest or two nothing major but the big ones where the coppers are out in force and violence breaks out in the surrounding areas and mass arrests etc happen is when things spur out of control for people.."
I know and whoevers fault it kicks off its usually locals or in London tourists a lot too that suffer and if it can turn very wrong and just get a bad name for activism |
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"I know and whoevers fault it kicks off its usually locals or in London tourists a lot too that suffer and if it can turn very wrong and just get a bad name for activism"
only takes a few to spoil it for the rest or set out a negative image I suppose, mind me asking what do you mainly focus on when you carry out you're activism activities?
if you're not comfortable with saying then cool, I'm just wondering is all? |
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"I know and whoevers fault it kicks off its usually locals or in London tourists a lot too that suffer and if it can turn very wrong and just get a bad name for activism
only takes a few to spoil it for the rest or set out a negative image I suppose, mind me asking what do you mainly focus on when you carry out you're activism activities?
if you're not comfortable with saying then cool, I'm just wondering is all?"
inbox you |
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"I think this is shocking and that whoever gave the order for the usher to order filming stopped should be immediately sacked for such an obvious act of censorship.
Who agrees?"
Seen footage this evening on news 24, so they must have filmed something  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think you can lay any blame at the BBC's door. The video is available on the BBC News app. They were reporting on the incident and the journalist was told to stop filming by an official.
It may be that parliament discourages the filming of demonstrations in the House to discourage disruption? Whether they should have a policy like that is a matter for debate. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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All filming in the House of Commons is done under strict rules.
Anyone wanting to film has to show what they are going to film and are supposed to not deviate from that purpose.
One of the rules is if any demonstration takes place within the building that cannot be broadcast live.
The protesters had forced their way into the building therefore the live broadcast had to end.
These rules are in place to try to prevent protestors forcing their way into the building to try to get on TV.
If the BBC had wanted to carry on filming the protest they could have done so from outside the building.
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"All filming in the House of Commons is done under strict rules.
Anyone wanting to film has to show what they are going to film and are supposed to not deviate from that purpose.
One of the rules is if any demonstration takes place within the building that cannot be broadcast live.
The protesters had forced their way into the building therefore the live broadcast had to end.
These rules are in place to try to prevent protestors forcing their way into the building to try to get on TV.
If the BBC had wanted to carry on filming the protest they could have done so from outside the building.
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Thank you. What I was saying but not in so many words |
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