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Line rental should be scrapped
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"I'm with virginmedia and i don't pay for my landline. My broadband comes from the other thing (cable?) and not my landline." If only there was such an invention as cable around here I live in the dark ages, we don't even have a gas supply let alone fibreoptic cabling | |||
"I'm with virginmedia and i don't pay for my landline. My broadband comes from the other thing (cable?) and not my landline. If only there was such an invention as cable around here I live in the dark ages, we don't even have a gas supply let alone fibreoptic cabling "we have the same things it's fibre optic direct on virgin however it is a con, we still pay 40 odd quid without line rental so like earlier post said, they get their money a different way without line rental. | |||
"I'm with virginmedia and i don't pay for my landline. My broadband comes from the other thing (cable?) and not my landline. If only there was such an invention as cable around here I live in the dark ages, we don't even have a gas supply let alone fibreoptic cabling "i've only got it because my next door neighbour paid to have it installed. i still don't like them though. | |||
"I'm with virginmedia and i don't pay for my landline. My broadband comes from the other thing (cable?) and not my landline. If only there was such an invention as cable around here I live in the dark ages, we don't even have a gas supply let alone fibreoptic cabling we have the same things it's fibre optic direct on virgin however it is a con, we still pay 40 odd quid without line rental so like earlier post said, they get their money a different way without line rental."i don't get the TV either, so i'm paying around £24 a month for just my broadband, which i think is steep but it's good broadband so i don't mind paying. | |||
"Should do, I never use my landline It's just there because of the internet " So you are using it then...   | |||
"Should do, I never use my landline It's just there because of the internet So you are using it then... "Well yes, but I was talking in the context of the actual telephone and making calls. | |||
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"So, where is the cost of the maintenance of the thousands of exchanges, telegraph poles, thousands of miles of aerial and underground cables, thousands of PCP's (the green boxes on the streets) going to come from?" The same thing could be applied to any services supplied whether that be utilities water or electricity. " Reality check people, these things don't grow there, they are built, maintained, and worked on by over 20,000 highly trained engineers... who's going to pay them? " The same people paying for the services they are using? Just remind yourself though whilst we are paying for the services there is a huge profit being made and I can tell you the profit margin is greatly significant to the outgoings. "Is under 100 quid a year really so much to pay for all that, bearing in mind that just one "van roll" (a visit for a fault etc) can cost over 300 quid? " Firstly what services are you using for less than 100 a year?! Is tiscali and AOL broadband still running?!?! It's tripped that within a few years easy! Yes we can see but it's Fibre... most places it's fibre only to the pcp. The amount of times the d side is connected to the wrong e side disrupting lines is unbelievable. 999 despatch ambulances to the wrong addresses all the time. The telecommunications industry is a farce with pretend engineers doing 12 week training courses. ALSO the van visits...? This is compulsory, if the lines was properly installed originally then service vans would not have to be deployed. Telephone lines around here are well below the standard hanging limit and should be rendered but probably won't until a van hits one. Again profits vs outlays. "Here's a thought, do you mind paying taxes for the NHS, schools, Police etc even though you might not use those services very often?" Don't compare the cost of phone lines (albeit we need them) to the NHS or Police etc hardly the same. | |||
"So, where is the cost of the maintenance of the thousands of exchanges, telegraph poles, thousands of miles of aerial and underground cables, thousands of PCP's (the green boxes on the streets) going to come from? The same thing could be applied to any services supplied whether that be utilities water or electricity. Reality check people, these things don't grow there, they are built, maintained, and worked on by over 20,000 highly trained engineers... who's going to pay them? The same people paying for the services they are using? Just remind yourself though whilst we are paying for the services there is a huge profit being made and I can tell you the profit margin is greatly significant to the outgoings. Is under 100 quid a year really so much to pay for all that, bearing in mind that just one "van roll" (a visit for a fault etc) can cost over 300 quid? Firstly what services are you using for less than 100 a year?! Is tiscali and AOL broadband still running?!?! It's tripped that within a few years easy! Yes we can see but it's Fibre... most places it's fibre only to the pcp. The amount of times the d side is connected to the wrong e side disrupting lines is unbelievable. 999 despatch ambulances to the wrong addresses all the time. The telecommunications industry is a farce with pretend engineers doing 12 week training courses. ALSO the van visits...? This is compulsory, if the lines was properly installed originally then service vans would not have to be deployed. Telephone lines around here are well below the standard hanging limit and should be rendered but probably won't until a van hits one. Again profits vs outlays. Here's a thought, do you mind paying taxes for the NHS, schools, Police etc even though you might not use those services very often? Don't compare the cost of phone lines (albeit we need them) to the NHS or Police etc hardly the same. " Line rental for a phone line is under 100 pounds a year, anything else you pay over and above that is charged by your Comms provider for services. Fucked "D" and "E" side routing a lot of the time is down to contractors. Providing a phone line correctly in the first instance is easy, and relatively cheap most of the time... however, most van rolls are for faults, nothing lasts forever, copper and aluminium cables deteriorate, trees damage arial cables, roadworks hit underground cables, the list goes on. Low drop wires.... lots are down to contractors again, no field engineer is going to risk putting one up below minimum height and risk getting disciplined or sacked for it! My mention of the NHS etc was not as comparison as such, but to point out that people pay for things they might not use, and yet they don't moan about that... but phone lines are a soft target. | |||
BT have taken the piss for years. | |||
"We got rid of our phone line as we only used mobile and the broadband was crap anyway... and they charged a fee - supposedly for an engineer to disconnect the line
BT have taken the piss for years."That charge would have been for a Frames engineer to cease the line, that's to go to the exchange, and physically take the wires off the network aspect of the circuit... do you think it was the fairies that done it mun? | |||
