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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
Why? When there are so many men who are attracted to women, why on Earth seek out those who aren't?
I know all about wanting what you can't have but this is taking it to an extreme.
By definition a gay man won't think any woman is sexy!
Respect people's preferences and stick to those who are attracted to you. |
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over a year ago
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"Why? When there are so many men who are attracted to women, why on Earth seek out those who aren't?
I know all about wanting what you can't have but this is taking it to an extreme.
By definition a gay man won't think any woman is sexy!
Respect people's preferences and stick to those who are attracted to you."
Extremes a bit of a strong word. 
If it was a male fantasising about a lesbian id say that was kind of standard fantasy.
Good luck op, maybe someone out there is wanting to try it xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why? When there are so many men who are attracted to women, why on Earth seek out those who aren't?
I know all about wanting what you can't have but this is taking it to an extreme.
By definition a gay man won't think any woman is sexy!
Respect people's preferences and stick to those who are attracted to you."
Nonsense, I've heard gay men describe women as sexy.
Sexual appreciation and sexual attraction/desire are different things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
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I dont understand why its horribly wrong?? |
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If he's gay would he go anywhere with a woman,it's a bit like saying how far would I go with a woman,I wouldn't as I'm straight. I can't have sex with someone I have no desire to. I'm confusing myself now... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just as a guy who identifies as straight may in the right circumstances be open to try sexual contact with another guy, I guess the same goes for a guy who identifies as gay.
However you could argue at that point both are bi-curious.
I identified as straight when I had my first homosexual encounter and continued to do so for another 30 years despite a second encounter a couple of years later. It wasn't wrong to continue to identify as straight as I had no intention at the time of repeating the experiences. Nor was it wrong to have the experiences. How else do we learn? |
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I suppose if a gay guy is willing to experiment with a woman then he's bicurious like the guy above me said. Or still gay but experimenting. Labels Smabels again.
I did chat to a gay guy once and he found the idea of licking a pussy really disgusting. He thought I was weird when I said I couldn't think of anything much better in sex.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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But surely once he's finished rearranging the soft furnishings and sorted out the clutter in your wardrobe there wouldn't be any time left for hanky panky ........
I mean isn't that what gay friends are for....
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??"
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"But surely once he's finished rearranging the soft furnishings and sorted out the clutter in your wardrobe there wouldn't be any time left for hanky panky ........
I mean isn't that what gay friends are for....
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Sounds like I need some!  |
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warning..do not read this with a mouth full of tea..
"But surely once he's finished rearranging the soft furnishings and sorted out the clutter in your wardrobe there wouldn't be any time left for hanky panky ........I mean isn't that what gay friends are for....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage."
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"But surely once he's finished rearranging the soft furnishings and sorted out the clutter in your wardrobe there wouldn't be any time left for hanky panky ........
I mean isn't that what gay friends are for....
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I can imagine you hosting that TV programme "queer eye for a straight guy" |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing. "
A fantasy is one thing, actively looking for someone who, by definition, is not interested is another.
No means no, right? And being lesbian or gay is a fairly firm no to the opposite sex! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing.
A fantasy is one thing, actively looking for someone who, by definition, is not interested is another.
No means no, right? And being lesbian or gay is a fairly firm no to the opposite sex!"
Still dont think its that bad sorry!! Lets face it everyone has filters and are adults able to say no. Its not as of people who are straight havent become bi ever. Why is it not possible the other way round?
I agree rude and possibly diresptful but thats for the gay guy receiving the message to decide.
Ive seen alot worse fantasies defended on the forums... amd like i say shes put it on the forum if she can voice it here where is it allowed?? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing.
A fantasy is one thing, actively looking for someone who, by definition, is not interested is another.
No means no, right? And being lesbian or gay is a fairly firm no to the opposite sex!
Still dont think its that bad sorry!! Lets face it everyone has filters and are adults able to say no. Its not as of people who are straight havent become bi ever. Why is it not possible the other way round?
I agree rude and possibly diresptful but thats for the gay guy receiving the message to decide.
Ive seen alot worse fantasies defended on the forums... amd like i say shes put it on the forum if she can voice it here where is it allowed??"
It's not just a fantasy though. As a fantasy it's fine.
I strongly believe people's preferences should be respected.
The entire, "you're not really (whatever), you just haven't found the right person yet", is very disrespectful and annoying.
If a gay guy wants to look for a woman, that's his choice, otherwise his orientation should be respected.
As for worse fantasies being defended here, yes, but if they're just fantasies then I've no problem with them. This isn't just a fantasy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing.
A fantasy is one thing, actively looking for someone who, by definition, is not interested is another.
No means no, right? And being lesbian or gay is a fairly firm no to the opposite sex!
Still dont think its that bad sorry!! Lets face it everyone has filters and are adults able to say no. Its not as of people who are straight havent become bi ever. Why is it not possible the other way round?
I agree rude and possibly diresptful but thats for the gay guy receiving the message to decide.
Ive seen alot worse fantasies defended on the forums... amd like i say shes put it on the forum if she can voice it here where is it allowed??
It's not just a fantasy though. As a fantasy it's fine.
I strongly believe people's preferences should be respected.
The entire, "you're not really (whatever), you just haven't found the right person yet", is very disrespectful and annoying.
If a gay guy wants to look for a woman, that's his choice, otherwise his orientation should be respected.
As for worse fantasies being defended here, yes, but if they're just fantasies then I've no problem with them. This isn't just a fantasy."
It is just a fantasy till shes done it!
I agree its annoying and rude as i said before. But i disagree with statements like "horribly wrong".
At worst shes going to annoy a few gay men? Hardly worth statments like "extreme" and "horribly wrong". |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
That doesnt make it horribly wrong. Direspectcful maybe if shes actively messaging gay guys. But putting a fantasy on a forum is hardly the same thing.
A fantasy is one thing, actively looking for someone who, by definition, is not interested is another.
No means no, right? And being lesbian or gay is a fairly firm no to the opposite sex!
Still dont think its that bad sorry!! Lets face it everyone has filters and are adults able to say no. Its not as of people who are straight havent become bi ever. Why is it not possible the other way round?
I agree rude and possibly diresptful but thats for the gay guy receiving the message to decide.
Ive seen alot worse fantasies defended on the forums... amd like i say shes put it on the forum if she can voice it here where is it allowed??
It's not just a fantasy though. As a fantasy it's fine.
I strongly believe people's preferences should be respected.
The entire, "you're not really (whatever), you just haven't found the right person yet", is very disrespectful and annoying.
If a gay guy wants to look for a woman, that's his choice, otherwise his orientation should be respected.
As for worse fantasies being defended here, yes, but if they're just fantasies then I've no problem with them. This isn't just a fantasy.
It is just a fantasy till shes done it!
I agree its annoying and rude as i said before. But i disagree with statements like "horribly wrong".
At worst shes going to annoy a few gay men? Hardly worth statments like "extreme" and "horribly wrong". "
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage."
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality."
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay  Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all. |
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality.
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all."
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"I dont understand why its horribly wrong??"
I usually see it the other way around with straight males trying to "convert" lesbians, it's not nice. Simularly particularly in bible belt areas there are a lot of people who try o preasurise gay men into heterosexual relationships.
What makes it horribly wrong is the fact that this fantasy has a victim. It is very different to wanting sex with a bisexual person where consent is possible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
I usually see it the other way around with straight males trying to "convert" lesbians, it's not nice. Simularly particularly in bible belt areas there are a lot of people who try o preasurise gay men into heterosexual relationships.
What makes it horribly wrong is the fact that this fantasy has a victim. It is very different to wanting sex with a bisexual person where consent is possible. "
Ok well i can see that point 
But no one is doing that here just a fantasy x |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality.
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all.
naive"
Not at all. But I do know what gay means and I do know what the Q in LGBTQ means. You seem somewhat confused by the terminology.
The Q isn't relevant anyway because the OP refers specifically to a gay man, not a "Q" man. |
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"But surely once he's finished rearranging the soft furnishings and sorted out the clutter in your wardrobe there wouldn't be any time left for hanky panky ........
I mean isn't that what gay friends are for....
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality.
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all.
naive
Not at all. But I do know what gay means and I do know what the Q in LGBTQ means. You seem somewhat confused by the terminology.
The Q isn't relevant anyway because the OP refers specifically to a gay man, not a "Q" man."
Oh. Gee. OK. Explain for us what Q stands for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A friend asked me if I would meet his gay friend. He wanted to experience a woman to see what it was like to be with a woman. "
I wonder if he is my friend as well who has managed to convince most girls I have met to let him touch their vagina . Rub boobs and in one occasion actuall convinced one girl to let him lick her till she come in his mouth
He also manages to get girls to snog him to see what it's like
He also does vaginal hair designs with a clipper
Funny never seen him kiss a bloke |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
Ashton Under Lyne |
One of my closest friends is a gay man, we've been friends for 10 years. I am the only woman he's fucked - a couple of years ago he was visiting me and staying at mine. Started off as a dare and ended up in him fucking me. Since then we've done it twice. No, he's not curious. No, I didn't "cure" him. He's as gay as gay can be but he enjoyed the experiment and tells me that quite a few gay guys do like to experiment. |
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By *erri AnneTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Why? When there are so many men who are attracted to women, why on Earth seek out those who aren't?
I know all about wanting what you can't have but this is taking it to an extreme.
By definition a gay man won't think any woman is sexy!
True but I suppose it a challenge for her and try to convert them
Respect people's preferences and stick to those who are attracted to you."
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By *redrobCouple (MM)
over a year ago
Kilmarnock |
"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality.
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all.
naive
Not at all. But I do know what gay means and I do know what the Q in LGBTQ means. You seem somewhat confused by the terminology.
The Q isn't relevant anyway because the OP refers specifically to a gay man, not a "Q" man.
Oh. Gee. OK. Explain for us what Q stands for."
Actually, she is right. The Q is for Questioning not Queer. And yes, we are active members of our local LGBTQ group. |
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"cure ??? well he wouldn't be gay anymore he would be bi       "
Um, no.
I drive a VW. I am a VW owner.
If I have a go in my girlfriends Nissan I do not cease to be a VW owner.
I play rugby. I am a rugby player.
If I play a game of football I do not cease to be a rugby player.
I am a bricklayer. I lay bricks.
If I plaster a ceiling I do not cease to be a bricklayer.
See how that works?
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"This is a weird one, that I just can't understand.
Often it is straight men and women fantasise about seducing gay women and men, gay or bi, think every straight man or woman are bi really just need to try it etc.
I guess it's just being the one who is so special you can change people. But it is just horribly wrong in my opinion.
I dont understand why its horribly wrong??
It's disrespectful to the guy's sexuality.
If the man wants to experience being with a woman, that's one thing, although I'd argue at that point he's bi, but actively looking for someone who has effectively said "no" is wrong.
Being gay means they don't fancy women - they've effectively said "no thanks" to all women.
Lesbian women hear enough from guys about how they just need a good seeing to and haven't met the right guy yet, and this is the same. It's massively disrespectful of their sexual preference.
I can't see what the point is unless the OP is after bragging rights that she is sexy enough to turn gay men?
Leave 'em alone and stick to the ones that do fancy women. There's hardly a shortage.
Typical of the rigid thinking that underlies the labeling of sexual categories. That's why a Q has been added to the end of LGBT...ie LGBTQ. The Q is for "questioning", which anyone can do no matter how they or others categorise their sexuality.
If they were interested in women, they wouldn't describe themselves as gay Gay has a rigid definition, the same as straight does, and bi.
And Q does not usually mean "questioning" at all.
naive
Not at all. But I do know what gay means and I do know what the Q in LGBTQ means. You seem somewhat confused by the terminology.
The Q isn't relevant anyway because the OP refers specifically to a gay man, not a "Q" man.
Oh. Gee. OK. Explain for us what Q stands for.
Actually, she is right. The Q is for Questioning not Queer. And yes, we are active members of our local LGBTQ group."
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"cure ??? well he wouldn't be gay anymore he would be bi
Um, no.
I drive a VW. I am a VW owner.
If I have a go in my girlfriends Nissan I do not cease to be a VW owner.
I play rugby. I am a rugby player.
If I play a game of football I do not cease to be a rugby player.
I am a bricklayer. I lay bricks.
If I plaster a ceiling I do not cease to be a bricklayer.
See how that works?
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Sorry but if a man who usually shags men is sexually attracted to or wants to shag a woman, that makes him bi-curious at least.
If he tries it and doesn't like it, or doesn't want to do it again, he's no longer curious.
If a guy states he's gay, I would respect that and wouldn't approach him. If he approached me, saying he was curious, that would be different.
Straight men frequently moan on here that bi guys don't respect their sexuality. Lesbians tend to be annoyed when men tell them they've not met the right man yet.
Stating you are gay should be respected in the same way as any other sexuality, IMO. Unless a person also says they are curious about women, then it would generally mean they aren't. |
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"cure ??? well he wouldn't be gay anymore he would be bi
Um, no.
I drive a VW. I am a VW owner.
If I have a go in my girlfriends Nissan I do not cease to be a VW owner.
I play rugby. I am a rugby player.
If I play a game of football I do not cease to be a rugby player.
I am a bricklayer. I lay bricks.
If I plaster a ceiling I do not cease to be a bricklayer.
See how that works?
Sorry but if a man who usually shags men is sexually attracted to or wants to shag a woman, that makes him bi-curious at least.
If he tries it and doesn't like it, or doesn't want to do it again, he's no longer curious.
If a guy states he's gay, I would respect that and wouldn't approach him. If he approached me, saying he was curious, that would be different.
Straight men frequently moan on here that bi guys don't respect their sexuality. Lesbians tend to be annoyed when men tell them they've not met the right man yet.
Stating you are gay should be respected in the same way as any other sexuality, IMO. Unless a person also says they are curious about women, then it would generally mean they aren't."
Im sorry but what if 'women' tended to get annoyed by gay men being curious. No one would ever ask anyone anythng there would be no such thing as curious. Heaven forbid we step outside the boxes and rules.
She is just bloody asking if any gay men are interested not asking for our judgement and thoughts. Annoying disrectful whatever not saying it wouldnt be. But thats what filters are for. So why dont we all back off and give the woman her thread back! |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"cure ??? well he wouldn't be gay anymore he would be bi
Um, no.
I drive a VW. I am a VW owner.
If I have a go in my girlfriends Nissan I do not cease to be a VW owner.
I play rugby. I am a rugby player.
If I play a game of football I do not cease to be a rugby player.
I am a bricklayer. I lay bricks.
If I plaster a ceiling I do not cease to be a bricklayer.
See how that works?
Sorry but if a man who usually shags men is sexually attracted to or wants to shag a woman, that makes him bi-curious at least.
If he tries it and doesn't like it, or doesn't want to do it again, he's no longer curious.
If a guy states he's gay, I would respect that and wouldn't approach him. If he approached me, saying he was curious, that would be different.
Straight men frequently moan on here that bi guys don't respect their sexuality. Lesbians tend to be annoyed when men tell them they've not met the right man yet.
Stating you are gay should be respected in the same way as any other sexuality, IMO. Unless a person also says they are curious about women, then it would generally mean they aren't.
Im sorry but what if 'women' tended to get annoyed by gay men being curious. No one would ever ask anyone anythng there would be no such thing as curious. Heaven forbid we step outside the boxes and rules.
She is just bloody asking if any gay men are interested not asking for our judgement and thoughts. Annoying disrectful whatever not saying it wouldnt be. But thats what filters are for. So why dont we all back off and give the woman her thread back!"
If people described what they're interested in there would be no confusion. Describing yourself as gay then saying you want sex with a woman is confusing.
I wasn't posting randomly. I was replying to another post, which you can see because I quoted it.
I'm not stopping any interested gay guys from contacting her. In fact, it may be more likely since I just bumped it back to the front page.
Men who say they are straight but express curiosity about meeting a man are usually told they aren't straight on here. Why should it be different for guys who say they are gay?
Expecting that men describing themselves as gay will only want to meet men isn't stereotyping; it's what gay means. |
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If people described what they're interested in there would be no confusion. "
Agreed but not everyone does. The reasons for that can be many and varied.
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Describing yourself as gay then saying you want sex with a woman is confusing."
That would be the person they approaches thoughts maybe but can they just ask??
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I wasn't posting randomly. I was replying to another post, which you can see because I quoted it.
I'm not stopping any interested gay guys from contacting her. In fact, it may be more likely since I just bumped it back to the front page."
I didnt think you were i started my reply in response and then it occured to me we should (emphasis on we not just you) leave her to it and yes i think it is less likely a gay men will now post because of the opnions in this thread.
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Men who say they are straight but express curiosity about meeting a man are usually told they aren't straight on here. Why should it be different for guys who say they are gay?"
By some maybe but not all they are whatever they want not what someone else determines. I would say that and have said that whatever the sexual equation
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Expecting that men describing themselves as gay will only want to meet men isn't stereotyping; it's what gay means."
I havent said its stereotyping??? I have said its their sexuality and their business and their problem if she send a message and that person isnt interested. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post. |
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over a year ago
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post."
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Hi Dee,
My point was mainly that trying something does not change you for life.
You can give it a go and not like it.
You can give it a go and enjoy it but prefer something else.
Having tried something should not change the way we are then expected to describe ourselves to others.
Many on here, not yourself of course, feel the need to tell others that if they have ever so much looked at Brad Pitt and not found him ugly then they must forever more be cursed with the dreaded ghey and should change their profile accordingly. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it."
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Hi Dee,
My point was mainly that trying something does not change you for life.
You can give it a go and not like it.
You can give it a go and enjoy it but prefer something else.
Having tried something should not change the way we are then expected to describe ourselves to others.
Many on here, not yourself of course, feel the need to tell others that if they have ever so much looked at Brad Pitt and not found him ugly then they must forever more be cursed with the dreaded ghey and should change their profile accordingly. "
Agreed, trying it once does not a bi person make.
You can see why I would not expect a guy describing himself as gay to be interested in me though? And how I might be a bit confused if he messaged asking me for a shag? |
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different."
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples. "
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens. |
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens."
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens.
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck "
Yes, there's a forum rule on profile advice but not on discussing topics posted.
Take a look around, plenty of threads are posted without a question being asked. People discuss them. That's what the board is for.
I don't think, from memory, a question was asked in the thread about the bomb attack the other day, for example. There was plenty of discussion there though.
As you pointed out, this is her fantasy. People then discussed that fantasy.
If she was just looking to meet a gay man, she'd have posted in the Meets section. |
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens.
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck
Yes, there's a forum rule on profile advice but not on discussing topics posted.
Take a look around, plenty of threads are posted without a question being asked. People discuss them. That's what the board is for.
I don't think, from memory, a question was asked in the thread about the bomb attack the other day, for example. There was plenty of discussion there though.
As you pointed out, this is her fantasy. People then discussed that fantasy.
If she was just looking to meet a gay man, she'd have posted in the Meets section."
But somepeople turn threads into their own agenda to pass judgements down from their high high horses.
And bang on and on and on and on... |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens.
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck
Yes, there's a forum rule on profile advice but not on discussing topics posted.
Take a look around, plenty of threads are posted without a question being asked. People discuss them. That's what the board is for.
I don't think, from memory, a question was asked in the thread about the bomb attack the other day, for example. There was plenty of discussion there though.
As you pointed out, this is her fantasy. People then discussed that fantasy.
If she was just looking to meet a gay man, she'd have posted in the Meets section.
But somepeople turn threads into their own agenda to pass judgements down from their high high horses.
And bang on and on and on and on..."
I'm replying to people, mostly people who are quoting and replying to me. 
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens.
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck
Yes, there's a forum rule on profile advice but not on discussing topics posted.
Take a look around, plenty of threads are posted without a question being asked. People discuss them. That's what the board is for.
I don't think, from memory, a question was asked in the thread about the bomb attack the other day, for example. There was plenty of discussion there though.
As you pointed out, this is her fantasy. People then discussed that fantasy.
If she was just looking to meet a gay man, she'd have posted in the Meets section.
But somepeople turn threads into their own agenda to pass judgements down from their high high horses.
And bang on and on and on and on..."
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Agreed, trying it once does not a bi person make.
You can see why I would not expect a guy describing himself as gay to be interested in me though? And how I might be a bit confused if he messaged asking me for a shag?"
Remarkably good point well put Dee.
By the way, do you fancy a shag? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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Agreed, trying it once does not a bi person make.
You can see why I would not expect a guy describing himself as gay to be interested in me though? And how I might be a bit confused if he messaged asking me for a shag?
Remarkably good point well put Dee.
By the way, do you fancy a shag?"
I'll just grab my car keys... |
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens."
True, but you're not discussing, you're stating how it is and how it should be, by your own reasoning and rules.
That's not discussion, that's dictating.
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"Can't deal with quoting that lot.
Gay men may be less likely to post, I don't know. The more active the thread is, however, the more likely it is to be seen and guys can message the OP. She hasn't got men blocked.
Stereotyping - you didn't say it. It was earlier in the thread. I tacked it on so I didn't have to do a second post.
Maybe but i believe if she hasnt asked for advice and thoughts we shouldnt give it.
Then again, she posted it in the Lounge, not in the Meets section. That's pretty much inviting discussion on it.
If it were in the Meets section, that would be a bit different.
No sorry i disagree. Doesnt matter where she didnt ask simples.
It's a discussion board though. Discussion happens.
That is no defence thats just funny. She didnt ask for opinions on whether she is right or wrong, so dont give advice. Its pretty simple. Thats why theres forum rules about profile advice for example.etc.
The thread was aimed at gay men not me and not you.
I would like to apologise to the op for how much i have posted in it and wish her luck
Yes, there's a forum rule on profile advice but not on discussing topics posted.
Take a look around, plenty of threads are posted without a question being asked. People discuss them. That's what the board is for.
I don't think, from memory, a question was asked in the thread about the bomb attack the other day, for example. There was plenty of discussion there though.
As you pointed out, this is her fantasy. People then discussed that fantasy.
If she was just looking to meet a gay man, she'd have posted in the Meets section.
But somepeople turn threads into their own agenda to pass judgements down from their high high horses.
And bang on and on and on and on..."
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over a year ago
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"I would love to meet a gay man and see how far he would go with a nice sexy lady (any takers)"
lmao.....i'm kind of astounded how a simple 'gal meets guy' coffee-cloud/day-dream/fantasy/musing turned into war and peace....i looked at the thread because i thought the title was interesting. Not to imply i'm interested in the offer personally, just.... you know.... when your mouth's round a nipple and you start to think, what's the difference? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I would love to meet a gay man and see how far he would go with a nice sexy lady (any takers)
lmao.....i'm kind of astounded how a simple 'gal meets guy' coffee-cloud/day-dream/fantasy/musing turned into war and peace....i looked at the thread because i thought the title was interesting. Not to imply i'm interested in the offer personally, just.... you know.... when your mouth's round a nipple and you start to think, what's the difference? "
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"I would love to meet a gay man and see how far he would go with a nice sexy lady (any takers)
lmao.....i'm kind of astounded how a simple 'gal meets guy' coffee-cloud/day-dream/fantasy/musing turned into war and peace....i looked at the thread because i thought the title was interesting. Not to imply i'm interested in the offer personally, just.... you know.... when your mouth's round a nipple and you start to think, what's the difference?
In which case why are you looking for men only "
I'm going with; "because it's his business and no - one else's".
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