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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because someone isn't in your world doesn't mean they are full of shit?

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Its an occupational hazard for them. they start of wanting to change the world and end up spouting clichés.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im a lady so i would say hot air

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Many of the main protagonists seem to forget that we don't all live in London

Sarah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think that things have to be done. They aren't going to be popular with everyone. Regardless of who's in charge.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Politicians are like babies' nappies, they both should be changed regularly for the same reason

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im a lady so i would say hot air "

Please don't offer me a ride in your "hot air" balloon

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Politicians are like babies' nappies, they both should be changed regularly for the same reason "

Love this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im a lady so i would say hot air

Please don't offer me a ride in your "hot air" balloon "

Hahaha

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

lobby and become selected and go to be voted in: be different

easy to bitch and not do anything to change it

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

They aren't in my world but the cuts they make to the service i serve do effect me directly and my safety so I feel I have the right to an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting."

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I want things to be fair and equal and to give recognition to the hard working public servants on the ground floor dealing with the shit and the mess that has been created.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town. "

I would vote for terry

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians "

That's why we all have the right to debate, all have the right to campaign and meet our politicians either at the house of commons or in their consituency offices to give our opinion, and most importantly, the right to vote in elections

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town. "

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I have raised concerns and petitioned issues that effect me and my colleges and I was in a "round about way" told to move on in short jerky movements

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?"

We are represented by the least amongst us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I may have revealed some hidden bitterness in this thread I think it was subtle

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

We are represented by the least amongst us.

"

don't i just know it. sick of fighting this system sometimes. maybe i'll have another early night.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit."
most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Because someone isn't in your world doesn't mean they are full of shit?"

Very true. The fact that they're clearly full of shit does, though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

We are represented by the least amongst us.

don't i just know it. sick of fighting this system sometimes. maybe i'll have another early night."

Then you have the right to do something about it, it may not change anything but that is democracy in action.

You can talk to your local MP, campaign parliament, write to Downing Street, strike in certain public sectors, use unions to argue your case, vote stand for election, all of these things are afforded to you as a democratic right in this country so use them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians

That's why we all have the right to debate, all have the right to campaign and meet our politicians either at the house of commons or in their consituency offices to give our opinion, and most importantly, the right to vote in elections "

Sadly the elections are full promises that become the issues to address for the following election How our _iews as an electorate become well informed and how we make our voices more readily heard and acted upon, is a serious challenge

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit. most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position "

Actually the majority of politicians, from local parish council, right up to parliament have not loved privileged lives, yes, I won't deny some have, they are the ones who get publicity, but there are many who work very hard at their jobs, and have earned the right to represent the general public in the job they do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians

That's why we all have the right to debate, all have the right to campaign and meet our politicians either at the house of commons or in their consituency offices to give our opinion, and most importantly, the right to vote in elections

Sadly the elections are full promises that become the issues to address for the following election How our _iews as an electorate become well informed and how we make our voices more readily heard and acted upon, is a serious challenge "

This is very true, which is why we have to use our voices to make ourselves heard. That's why I advocate speaking to MPs, make your voice heard, as without that the MPs and parliament do not know.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Many of the main protagonists seem to forget that we don't all live in London

Sarah "

the media are also guilty of this...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians

That's why we all have the right to debate, all have the right to campaign and meet our politicians either at the house of commons or in their consituency offices to give our opinion, and most importantly, the right to vote in elections

Sadly the elections are full promises that become the issues to address for the following election How our _iews as an electorate become well informed and how we make our voices more readily heard and acted upon, is a serious challenge

This is very true, which is why we have to use our voices to make ourselves heard. That's why I advocate speaking to MPs, make your voice heard, as without that the MPs and parliament do not know."

I agree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Politicians will never please everyone, it's the very nature of the beast. One person wants one thing, another wants another. Each parliamentarian is there to serve their constituency and each constituency has very different economic and life needs so no one will ever be fully satisfied.

That to me is what makes politics so interesting.

Political issues are far too important to be left to politicians

That's why we all have the right to debate, all have the right to campaign and meet our politicians either at the house of commons or in their consituency offices to give our opinion, and most importantly, the right to vote in elections

Sadly the elections are full promises that become the issues to address for the following election How our _iews as an electorate become well informed and how we make our voices more readily heard and acted upon, is a serious challenge

This is very true, which is why we have to use our voices to make ourselves heard. That's why I advocate speaking to MPs, make your voice heard, as without that the MPs and parliament do not know. I agree "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Look at clegg though getting votes on the back of keeping the Sheffield steel going and back uni students over fees then sold them all out to join the former coalition government. The very votes he one were on false promises! Cunts trick that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look at clegg though getting votes on the back of keeping the Sheffield steel going and back uni students over fees then sold them all out to join the former coalition government. The very votes he one were on false promises! Cunts trick that "

No Clegg had little choice in the matter of tuition fees, that would have passed with or without his involvement. Politics, especially in coalition governments, is about give and take, that particular issue would have come to be whether it was a coalition or a Conservative majority government.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look at clegg though getting votes on the back of keeping the Sheffield steel going and back uni students over fees then sold them all out to join the former coalition government. The very votes he one were on false promises! Cunts trick that

No Clegg had little choice in the matter of tuition fees, that would have passed with or without his involvement. Politics, especially in coalition governments, is about give and take, that particular issue would have come to be whether it was a coalition or a Conservative majority government."

I think the moderating influence of the Lib Dems on policy, during the coalition, is much more evident now the Tories have a freer reign on policy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Look at clegg though getting votes on the back of keeping the Sheffield steel going and back uni students over fees then sold them all out to join the former coalition government. The very votes he one were on false promises! Cunts trick that

No Clegg had little choice in the matter of tuition fees, that would have passed with or without his involvement. Politics, especially in coalition governments, is about give and take, that particular issue would have come to be whether it was a coalition or a Conservative majority government.

I think the moderating influence of the Lib Dems on policy, during the coalition, is much more evident now the Tories have a freer reign on policy."

In certain issues, yes I do agree with that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?"

Half joking. I worked in local politics for years ita exactly the same. We got one or two a couple of years ago but wasnt long beforw they were kicked into touch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit. most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position

Actually the majority of politicians, from local parish council, right up to parliament have not loved privileged lives, yes, I won't deny some have, they are the ones who get publicity, but there are many who work very hard at their jobs, and have earned the right to represent the general public in the job they do.

Im sure thats the case. However i also know quite a few in shall we say deprived areas who are affluent and havent worked a day in their lives. I could also name one who is senior in one party who has been linked to child abuse and is still in a postion of power. They have been under investigation for 4 years!

Many get in because of who they know and parents or partners. "

When i say child abuse i should clarify they havent been accused personally but it is being investigated whether they had knowledge of it happening last time they were in that position.

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By *MaleMan  over a year ago


"Because someone isn't in your world doesn't mean they are full of shit?"

Someone outside your world without a clue about your world telling you how your world is, is usually talking shit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit. most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position

Actually the majority of politicians, from local parish council, right up to parliament have not loved privileged lives, yes, I won't deny some have, they are the ones who get publicity, but there are many who work very hard at their jobs, and have earned the right to represent the general public in the job they do.

Im sure thats the case. However i also know quite a few in shall we say deprived areas who are affluent and havent worked a day in their lives. I could also name one who is senior in one party who has been linked to child abuse and is still in a postion of power. They have been under investigation for 4 years!

Many get in because of who they know and parents or partners. "

I don't doubt that they do get in because of that at all, that's not what I was trying to get across i know my old mp came in like that, however many don't. They are not all stuck up people who only care about themselves, the majority care about their jobs and the people the represent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit. most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position

Actually the majority of politicians, from local parish council, right up to parliament have not loved privileged lives, yes, I won't deny some have, they are the ones who get publicity, but there are many who work very hard at their jobs, and have earned the right to represent the general public in the job they do.

Im sure thats the case. However i also know quite a few in shall we say deprived areas who are affluent and havent worked a day in their lives. I could also name one who is senior in one party who has been linked to child abuse and is still in a postion of power. They have been under investigation for 4 years!

Many get in because of who they know and parents or partners.

I don't doubt that they do get in because of that at all, that's not what I was trying to get across i know my old mp came in like that, however many don't. They are not all stuck up people who only care about themselves, the majority care about their jobs and the people the represent."

I think and hope you right. There were probably only 10 out of 60 like that in the years i worked with them at one authority.

One litterally turned every meeting into a dicussion about dog mess even when much more serious things where on the agenda. Ive seen some fall asleep in meetings with execs about what jobs they were gonna cut and decisions about cutting social care adults and children. Im only speaking about one particular authority which i hope is outside the norm xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some care, most don't but is it me or every time I heard or see a member of parliament or government talking about cuts or the economy and the E.U I just think your not in the real world and full of shit. most politicians not all have lead privileged lives of course they are not ,they make decisions on our behalf though because supposedly we voted them in to that position

Actually the majority of politicians, from local parish council, right up to parliament have not loved privileged lives, yes, I won't deny some have, they are the ones who get publicity, but there are many who work very hard at their jobs, and have earned the right to represent the general public in the job they do.

Im sure thats the case. However i also know quite a few in shall we say deprived areas who are affluent and havent worked a day in their lives. I could also name one who is senior in one party who has been linked to child abuse and is still in a postion of power. They have been under investigation for 4 years!

Many get in because of who they know and parents or partners.

I don't doubt that they do get in because of that at all, that's not what I was trying to get across i know my old mp came in like that, however many don't. They are not all stuck up people who only care about themselves, the majority care about their jobs and the people the represent.

I think and hope you right. There were probably only 10 out of 60 like that in the years i worked with them at one authority.

One litterally turned every meeting into a dicussion about dog mess even when much more serious things where on the agenda. Ive seen some fall asleep in meetings with execs about what jobs they were gonna cut and decisions about cutting social care adults and children. Im only speaking about one particular authority which i hope is outside the norm xx"

I would certainly hope it is too, in my experience it is out of the norm yes xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I would certainly hope it is too, in my experience it is out of the norm yes xx"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

We are represented by the least amongst us.

don't i just know it. sick of fighting this system sometimes. maybe i'll have another early night.

Then you have the right to do something about it, it may not change anything but that is democracy in action.

You can talk to your local MP, campaign parliament, write to Downing Street, strike in certain public sectors, use unions to argue your case, vote stand for election, all of these things are afforded to you as a democratic right in this country so use them "

already doing it. i'm tired anyway, been having early nights all week.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

Half joking. I worked in local politics for years ita exactly the same. We got one or two a couple of years ago but wasnt long beforw they were kicked into touch "

probably is a demoralising job tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

Half joking. I worked in local politics for years ita exactly the same. We got one or two a couple of years ago but wasnt long beforw they were kicked into touch

probably is a demoralising job tbh."

Yeah for sure put me off ever standing xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"One day i would like a politician to be working class. Called janice or dave and be from a small town.

so would i. i know you're joking but seriously, where are the politicians who represent me?

Half joking. I worked in local politics for years ita exactly the same. We got one or two a couple of years ago but wasnt long beforw they were kicked into touch

probably is a demoralising job tbh.

Yeah for sure put me off ever standing xx"

aw, goodnight, i'm off. knackered as usual.

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