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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago
warrington |
MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over! |
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over a year ago
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Fookin hate every single one of them. 5 days a week they cause me no end of misery and frustration. They are so oblivious to everything around them.
Four lane stretches of motorways... don't get me started on that one. I just wish it was perfectly legal to undertake on the inside lane. Roll on 80mph past with everyone on my right hand side  |
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"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!"
No sympathy I'm afraid. If you were doing 75 them you were speeding and have no right to complain as what you were doing was illegal. The middle lane driver was just being inconsiderate. |
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Who honestly doesn't speed on motorway lol
"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!
No sympathy I'm afraid. If you were doing 75 them you were speeding and have no right to complain as what you were doing was illegal. The middle lane driver was just being inconsiderate."
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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago
Manchester |
"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!"
Yep if people actually understood the rules of motorway driving such as the middle and and outside lanes are overtaking lanes and you return to lane if possible after overtaking it would cut down on a lot of congestion.
mildly irks me someone wouldnt pull over 5 miles down i overtook them on the inside (the middle lane) and they had the cheek to to gesticulate i was wanker,, i could well be but rather that than an ignorant one  |
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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago
warrington |
By that reply I guess you dont drive on motorways that much!! incidentally an indicated 75 mph on any motor car speedometer is usually a good 10% inaccurate and overreads. so the true speed is +/- 70 mph so you will find I wasnt speeding afterall. And the other driver is still inconsiderate! |
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MLC people are complete idiots causing frustration and traffic hold ups by leaving the driving lane empty. Much more sensible in USA where pass either side, even the French normally behave on their motorways  |
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By that reply I guess you dont drive on motorways that much!! incidentally an indicated 75 mph on any motor car speedometer is usually a good 10% inaccurate and overreads. so the true speed is +/- 70 mph so you will find I wasnt speeding afterall. And the other driver is still inconsiderate!"
Unfortunately stating that all speedos are 10% out won't get you off a speeding fine in a court of law.....
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By that reply I guess you dont drive on motorways that much!! incidentally an indicated 75 mph on any motor car speedometer is usually a good 10% inaccurate and overreads. so the true speed is +/- 70 mph so you will find I wasnt speeding afterall. And the other driver is still inconsiderate!
Unfortunately stating that all speedos are 10% out won't get you off a speeding fine in a court of law.....
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True, but if he was driving at 75 based on his speedo reading, then he'd not be up in court anyway as he wouldn't be caught by the traffic cops for speeding. |
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You will not get a speeding fine at 75mph because I believe the law assumes speedos to be calibrated + or minus 5%
so there is your speedo which can be 5% out plus the error which might be on the speedo which is on any car following you.
On a divergent but related point 70 mph limit is ridiculous and should be changed upwards |
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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago
Manchester |
"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!
No sympathy I'm afraid. If you were doing 75 them you were speeding and have no right to complain as what you were doing was illegal. The middle lane driver was just being inconsiderate."
The National speed limit ON MOTORWAYS was introduced somwhere in the early 19th centuary when there was not a lot of cars about and they were made of tin foil.
A centuary on all cars are manufactured to travel nearly around double the national speed limit and car safety has improved greatly better constructed to absorb impact airbags etc. there has been many motoring official meetings by people with clipboards and pens about actually increasing the speed limit to 90mph.
However if the government and police agreed to this they would seriously reduce the amount of money they take of us in fines, so i feel the only reason that motorway speed limit has not been increased is beause the authorities would simply be kissing goodby to a nice lil stealth tax fund raiser.
Hear about mr Bloggs who got caught doing 72 in a 70 limit who lost his job and his family....Always those that believe what a thouroughly distgusting individual he was deserved everything he got for being a criminal ?
Other thing why police love "speedsters" without them there crime detection figures would probably fall dramatically, heaven forbid they should have to go out and catch real criminals.
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By *eppersCouple
over a year ago
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Yes Jane I would say that, unless the car was brand new then yes they should be accurate,but one even 2yrs old could be out, unless designed with a solid state mother board,and not all car speedometer are solid state so a certain amount of inaccuracy would be the norm,which is why police speed check equipment has to be calibrated. |
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Indeed - I saw a programme on telly about motorways (I lead such an exciting life, eh?) that explained that when they were first opened, our motorways had no speed limits on them at all! And wearing seatbelts was optional too!
Sometimes progress ain't always for the better. |
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over a year ago
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By that reply I guess you dont drive on motorways that much!! incidentally an indicated 75 mph on any motor car speedometer is usually a good 10% inaccurate and overreads. so the true speed is +/- 70 mph so you will find I wasnt speeding afterall. And the other driver is still inconsiderate!"
Actually I am a regular motorway driver I stick to the speed limit as it's more economical to drive steadily than speed and have to keep slowing down.
The reason I dont speed is that it was a speeding motorway driver that almost killed me and my kids a few years ago.
Don't see the point in getting wound up about people that travel in the middle lane. Far more important things to worry about.
Time more people took a chill pill about these things.
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"The National speed limit ON MOTORWAYS was introduced somwhere in the early 19th centuary when there was not a lot of cars about and they were made of tin foil.
A centuary on all cars are manufactured to travel nearly around double the national speed limit and car safety has improved greatly better constructed to absorb impact airbags etc. there has been many motoring official meetings by people with clipboards and pens about actually increasing the speed limit to 90mph.
However if the government and police agreed to this they would seriously reduce the amount of money they take of us in fines, so i feel the only reason that motorway speed limit has not been increased is beause the authorities would simply be kissing goodby to a nice lil stealth tax fund raiser.
Hear about mr Bloggs who got caught doing 72 in a 70 limit who lost his job and his family....Always those that believe what a thouroughly distgusting individual he was deserved everything he got for being a criminal ?
Other thing why police love "speedsters" without them there crime detection figures would probably fall dramatically, heaven forbid they should have to go out and catch real criminals. "
I think you mean 20th century, not 19th
The trouble with this argument is that increasing the speed limit would have to apply to all drivers irrespective of what car they drive. So although today's cars are capable of driving - and more importantly stopping - at speeds in excess of 70mph, there are plenty of cars which are older and not as technically advanced, but would still benefit from such a change in the law. |
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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago
warrington |
Even audis! all cars now have digital speedos. digital is just the display. they still have speed sensors that read wheel movement and as Audis have tyres like every car they wear down. so the size of a worn tyre is different from a new tyre. so the wheel turns at a different speed which has an effect on the speed sensor and ultimatly the speedo reading. |
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"Fookin hate every single one of them. 5 days a week they cause me no end of misery and frustration. They are so oblivious to everything around them.
Four lane stretches of motorways... don't get me started on that one. I just wish it was perfectly legal to undertake on the inside lane. Roll on 80mph past with everyone on my right hand side "
I had an excellent solution to this problem which i actually spoke to my local Police force about.
These people are, in essence, muppets. There's no point in trying to educate them, or get them to change their behaviour. They will take the view that 'I'm doing the legal limit' or 'I'll need to overtake that truck on the horizon in the next ten minutes' or they neither know nor care that you are behind them. These are the same people who use the motorway once a year and reckon the problem is that there are too many trucks on the road which 'sit right on my bumper' but are oblivious to the fact that trucks are speed limited to 56mph and as such they, not the trucks are the problem.
Anyway, the solution I proposed to the local constabulary was that rather than getting all hot and bothered about them or trying to get them to see sense, I would simply pull them over to the side of the road and shoot them in the head. One shot, a clean, quick and painless death and one less wanker in the world.
The fact that this would have both social and environmental benefits - fewer muppets using fewer resources, plus reversing the slowdown of Darwinian natural selection caused by universal healthcare/advances in medicine etc can only be a good thing for all of us in the long run - would be an unintentional but desirable by product of my idea.
Anyway, the local Police listened politely enough to my suggestion, but were MOST emphatic that there were NO circumstances under which I should put my plan into action, even on a 'trial' basis.
So now, I undertake the cunts. Every day.
Fuck 'em.
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"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!
No sympathy I'm afraid. If you were doing 75 them you were speeding and have no right to complain as what you were doing was illegal. The middle lane driver was just being inconsiderate."
Yes but highway code clearly states you should drive on the farthest nearside lane |
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"I had an excellent solution to this problem which i actually spoke to my local Police force about.
These people are, in essence, muppets. There's no point in trying to educate them, or get them to change their behaviour. They will take the view that 'I'm doing the legal limit' or 'I'll need to overtake that truck on the horizon in the next ten minutes' or they neither know nor care that you are behind them. These are the same people who use the motorway once a year and reckon the problem is that there are too many trucks on the road which 'sit right on my bumper' but are oblivious to the fact that trucks are speed limited to 56mph and as such they, not the trucks are the problem.
Anyway, the solution I proposed to the local constabulary was that rather than getting all hot and bothered about them or trying to get them to see sense, I would simply pull them over to the side of the road and shoot them in the head. One shot, a clean, quick and painless death and one less wanker in the world.
The fact that this would have both social and environmental benefits - fewer muppets using fewer resources, plus reversing the slowdown of Darwinian natural selection caused by universal healthcare/advances in medicine etc can only be a good thing for all of us in the long run - would be an unintentional but desirable by product of my idea.
Anyway, the local Police listened politely enough to my suggestion, but were MOST emphatic that there were NO circumstances under which I should put my plan into action, even on a 'trial' basis.
So now, I undertake the cunts. Every day.
Fuck 'em.
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Hahahaha - love it. |
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"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!
No sympathy I'm afraid. If you were doing 75 them you were speeding and have no right to complain as what you were doing was illegal. The middle lane driver was just being inconsiderate.
The National speed limit ON MOTORWAYS was introduced somwhere in the early 19th centuary when there was not a lot of cars about and they were made of tin foil.
A centuary on all cars are manufactured to travel nearly around double the national speed limit and car safety has improved greatly better constructed to absorb impact airbags etc. there has been many motoring official meetings by people with clipboards and pens about actually increasing the speed limit to 90mph.
However if the government and police agreed to this they would seriously reduce the amount of money they take of us in fines, so i feel the only reason that motorway speed limit has not been increased is beause the authorities would simply be kissing goodby to a nice lil stealth tax fund raiser.
Hear about mr Bloggs who got caught doing 72 in a 70 limit who lost his job and his family....Always those that believe what a thouroughly distgusting individual he was deserved everything he got for being a criminal ?
Other thing why police love "speedsters" without them there crime detection figures would probably fall dramatically, heaven forbid they should have to go out and catch real criminals.
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The 70 Mph speed limit on motorways wasn't brought into until December 1965 though was it?, at first as a temporary measure on a trial basis...which then was written up in law. |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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Why is it anything to do with driving behavour brings the sanctimonious rule followers out of the closet?
If you're a swinger/dogger/dirty filthy pervert then you can hardly look down from your high MPV on us speeding lunatics eh eh? 'koff |
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By *teborah OP Couple
over a year ago
warrington |
"Why is it anything to do with driving behavour brings the sanctimonious rule followers out of the closet?
If you're a swinger/dogger/dirty filthy pervert then you can hardly look down from your high MPV on us speeding lunatics eh eh? 'koff"
How true, best not mention my speed just after I gesticulated to them hey! |
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over a year ago
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To be fair, i give up on this lol, sometimes i cruise in the middle lane but only if i am overtaking someone, i then toddle off to the slow lane.
What i do want to know though is it true that what your speedo says isnt necessarily true? And is a sat nav a true indication of the speed you are going? |
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What i do want to know though is it true that what your speedo says isnt necessarily true? And is a sat nav a true indication of the speed you are going?"
Speedometers almost invariably show a higher speed than the vehicle is travelling at.
Don't put any faith at all in any speed indicated on a sat-nav. |
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"To be fair, i give up on this lol, sometimes i cruise in the middle lane but only if i am overtaking someone, i then toddle off to the slow lane.
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It isn't a slow lane - it's lane 1. The speed limit there is the same as the other two lanes and the hard shoulder. |
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The way I see driving on the Motorway is....You have absolutely no control over the way that others are driving their cars, you can get all vexed about their lane designation, you can mumble to yourself about it, you can scream and curse (Hello....they can't hear you!)
But all you can control is the car YOU are driving yourself....so when I come up behind someone hogging the middle lane I simply indicate....and overtake.
I find this to be the simplest and least stressful way of driving up the M5.....Works for me! |
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What i do want to know though is it true that what your speedo says isnt necessarily true? And is a sat nav a true indication of the speed you are going?
Speedometers almost invariably show a higher speed than the vehicle is travelling at.
Don't put any faith at all in any speed indicated on a sat-nav."
Ah so my now ex friend was lying to me  |
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"To be fair, i give up on this lol, sometimes i cruise in the middle lane but only if i am overtaking someone, i then toddle off to the slow lane.
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It isn't a slow lane - it's lane 1. The speed limit there is the same as the other two lanes and the hard shoulder."
I didnt say it was, i just wanted to show that i dont hang around in the middle lane. The 'slow' lane though is the one that people do drive slower in, lorries for example even though the speed limit is 70 |
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"To be fair, i give up on this lol, sometimes i cruise in the middle lane but only if i am overtaking someone, i then toddle off to the slow lane.
What i do want to know though is it true that what your speedo says isnt necessarily true? And is a sat nav a true indication of the speed you are going?"
Yep, speedos are not a true reflection of your actual speed.
You can test it yourself next time you're on the motorway by driving for 15 minutes at exactly 70mph on your speedo... your mileage should be 17½ miles more than it was at the start - but it won't be.
Satnavs are slightly more reliable but they're not exact because it's based on your position being calculated against 3 satellites, and they're not so accurate that it can pinpoint exactly where you are, they're usually good to within a few metres, but for calculating your speed a few metres can make a big difference. |
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"To be fair, i give up on this lol, sometimes i cruise in the middle lane but only if i am overtaking someone, i then toddle off to the slow lane.
What i do want to know though is it true that what your speedo says isnt necessarily true? And is a sat nav a true indication of the speed you are going?
Yep, speedos are not a true reflection of your actual speed.
You can test it yourself next time you're on the motorway by driving for 15 minutes at exactly 70mph on your speedo... your mileage should be 17½ miles more than it was at the start - but it won't be.
Satnavs are slightly more reliable but they're not exact because it's based on your position being calculated against 3 satellites, and they're not so accurate that it can pinpoint exactly where you are, they're usually good to within a few metres, but for calculating your speed a few metres can make a big difference."
so what you are saying then, if his speedo said 80 mph, thats more likely what he was doing |
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"so what you are saying then, if his speedo said 80 mph, thats more likely what he was doing "
If his speedo said 80 then he was actually doing just over 70, probably nearer 72 or 73 as generally they tend to over state by approximately 10%. |
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"...if his Satnav said 80mph then he was doing nearer 80 than he was 70."
no his speedo i said not sat nav lol i could never see that speed and too scared to look  |
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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago
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well i got done clocked at 74mph so i disagree with the 10% above or under or then again maybe i am just unlucky.
I had the "pleasure" of sitting through the driver awareness course rather than take the points, where myself and other despicable motoring criminals were lectured to about the evils of speeding and how it kills, i mentioned surely its just a stealth tax, and that it was highly probable that drink drivers kill more people than speeding ones.
The grey man put on his stats hat and said no my statement was incorrect to which i said how could you put a percentage on the two, speed cameras can not exactly pull over suspected drink drivers and breathalyse them can they.
Five minutes later i was kindly escorted from the premises and informed i had failed my driver awareness course i didnt know it was an exam ??? i ended up copping 3 points.
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"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!"
Why didnt you just use the outside lane to overtake |
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"MLOC being the MIDDLE LANE OWNERS CLUB. These people should have been drowned at birth to save a lot of frustration they impose on people day in and day out who use the motorway network. I truley feel sorry for people who use the motorways as there job. I approached a car this morning on the M56. I was travelling at 75ish on the inside lane then had to adjust my speed to 50 to stay behing them. I sat there for about a mile cussing them. then I drew alongside and stared at them. they never even looked. please these people either learn to drive or better still catch a bus. rant over!
Why didnt you just use the outside lane to overtake "
What and deny them something to moan about?.... |
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"well i got done clocked at 74mph so i disagree with the 10% above or under or then again maybe i am just unlucky.
I had the "pleasure" of sitting through the driver awareness course rather than take the points, where myself and other despicable motoring criminals were lectured to about the evils of speeding and how it kills, i mentioned surely its just a stealth tax, and that it was highly probable that drink drivers kill more people than speeding ones.
The grey man put on his stats hat and said no my statement was incorrect to which i said how could you put a percentage on the two, speed cameras can not exactly pull over suspected drink drivers and breathalyse them can they.
Five minutes later i was kindly escorted from the premises and informed i had failed my driver awareness course i didnt know it was an exam ??? i ended up copping 3 points.
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I was told when i was doin a health and safety course that the highest killer on the road when driving was fiddling around with the radio |
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By *ne ShotMan
over a year ago
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"well i got done clocked at 74mph so i disagree with the 10% above or under or then again maybe i am just unlucky.
I had the "pleasure" of sitting through the driver awareness course rather than take the points, where myself and other despicable motoring criminals were lectured to about the evils of speeding and how it kills, i mentioned surely its just a stealth tax, and that it was highly probable that drink drivers kill more people than speeding ones.
The grey man put on his stats hat and said no my statement was incorrect to which i said how could you put a percentage on the two, speed cameras can not exactly pull over suspected drink drivers and breathalyse them can they.
Five minutes later i was kindly escorted from the premises and informed i had failed my driver awareness course i didnt know it was an exam ??? i ended up copping 3 points.
I was told when i was doin a health and safety course that the highest killer on the road when driving was fiddling around with the radio"
yes especially if you accidentally tune in to moyles or evans makes you want to put your foot down and aim for the nearest wall. |
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"Why didnt you just use the outside lane to overtake "
Perhaps there was someone fast approaching in the outside lane, thereby stopping him from doing that.
I've had this happen to me. I've been driving in the inside lane and caught up with someone in the middle lane. Not wanting to undertake them, I move into the middle lane, but then see someone zooming along the outside lane. I'd then have to brake because otherwise I'd either cause a crash with the person in the outside lane, or go into the back of the person hogging the middle lane.
Section 138 of the Highway Code states clearly what you're supposed to do:
"On a three-lane dual carriageway, you may use the middle lane or the right-hand lane to overtake but return to the middle and then the left-hand lane when it is safe."
Hogging the middle lane is dangerous as it causes accidents. |
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"well i got done clocked at 74mph so i disagree with the 10% above or under or then again maybe i am just unlucky.
I had the "pleasure" of sitting through the driver awareness course rather than take the points, where myself and other despicable motoring criminals were lectured to about the evils of speeding and how it kills, i mentioned surely its just a stealth tax, and that it was highly probable that drink drivers kill more people than speeding ones.
The grey man put on his stats hat and said no my statement was incorrect to which i said how could you put a percentage on the two, speed cameras can not exactly pull over suspected drink drivers and breathalyse them can they.
Five minutes later i was kindly escorted from the premises and informed i had failed my driver awareness course i didnt know it was an exam ??? i ended up copping 3 points.
I was told when i was doin a health and safety course that the highest killer on the road when driving was fiddling around with the radio
yes especially if you accidentally tune in to moyles or evans makes you want to put your foot down and aim for the nearest wall. "
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