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The nasty bastards are at it again - harassing trans folk for their trashy tabloid fodder!
I'd have thought they would learn the lesson from how they had a hand in the suicide of the teacher, but no!
"Film-maker says she decided to go public about her transition after a ‘threatened public outing’ from Britain’s Daily Mail"
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/09/matrix-director-lilly-wachowski-comes-out-as-a-transgender-woman |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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The Mail is a rag that appeals and panders to small minded little englanders, racists and homophobes. It is never cutting edge with its stories, often lifting them from the previous day's chip wrappings. It is however very popular with the section of society that prefer trousers with elasticated waistbands, moccasins and stairlifts. |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
Suffolk - East Anglia |
"The Mail is a rag that appeals and panders to small minded little englanders, racists and homophobes. It is never cutting edge with its stories, often lifting them from the previous day's chip wrappings. It is however very popular with the section of society that prefer trousers with elasticated waistbands, moccasins and stairlifts. "
Strange then, that it has one of the largest circulations of any UK paper.
Then that means most of the population match your description.
Lorry drivers, doctors, nurses, using stair lifts wearing moccasins.
Get real |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I like the Daily Mail For its good Boxing and limited UFC coverage.
I judge the news stories on merit and my own values.
All papers are nasty in their own ways.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The nasty bastards are at it again - harassing trans folk for their trashy tabloid fodder!
I'd have thought they would learn the lesson from how they had a hand in the suicide of the teacher, but no!
"Film-maker says she decided to go public about her transition after a ‘threatened public outing’ from Britain’s Daily Mail"
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/09/matrix-director-lilly-wachowski-comes-out-as-a-transgender-woman"
Perhaps she should sue them.  |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
I'm a lesbian hugging Guardian reader. I buy the Daily Telegraph once a week for political balance though.
I tried it with the Daily Mail on a number of occasions and came to the conclusion the owner/Editor/journalist was on a huge wind-up - it's an attempt to write down the thoughts of that pub-bore that starts droning on about life before the gays and darkies arrived as you order your shandy.
Unfortunately, it means upping the hits on their website, but the comments sections at the end of stories are always worth a read - unintentionally hilarious and scary in equal measure.
I'm sure the Guardian is more comfortable with swinging too  . |
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"Can't see the problem. Read it every day. Good paper!"
They were instrumental in harassing and outing the transgender primary school teacher, who then committed suicide. Not content from the coroner's criticism after her death, they're now harassing and threatening to out others. That would be enough for reasonable people to question the paper's morality.
I won't buy it, nor want to read it. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"The Mail is a rag that appeals and panders to small minded little englanders, racists and homophobes. It is never cutting edge with its stories, often lifting them from the previous day's chip wrappings. It is however very popular with the section of society that prefer trousers with elasticated waistbands, moccasins and stairlifts.
Strange then, that it has one of the largest circulations of any UK paper.
Then that means most of the population match your description.
Lorry drivers, doctors, nurses, using stair lifts wearing moccasins.
Get real"
One of the largest circulations ? Is that like coming second in a boxing match? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That was confusing as fuck OP, i was gonna say she came out years ago and the DM were behind the times, then the link wasn't even the DM... 
I don't understand why they would blackmail somebody to come out before they're ready but that's sad if it's true. |
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"I don't buy the newspapers.. They would sell out their own mothers for a story...
The mail and sun shouldn't be allowed to carry on printing "
I can't forget the fact that the Daiky Mail openly supported Hitler,
Mussolini, Osward Mosely and his Blackshirts, and Fascism in general in the 1930s.
It still relies on Jingoism and barely concealed racism for its support....
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat"
Do you know who prints Metro? |
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat"
It's owned by the Daily Mail |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat"
So do i. If i've missed any viral stories on my facebook then Metro will publish it.
Pretty sure they run fb adverts as stories sometimes as well. |
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat
Do you know who prints Metro?"
You beat me to it! |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat
Do you know who prints Metro?
You beat me to it!"
That does make me feel a little grubby now.....
I'm still sticking with it though. It far less jingoistic and patronising than other papers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't buy the newspapers.. They would sell out their own mothers for a story...
The mail and sun shouldn't be allowed to carry on printing
I can't forget the fact that the Daiky Mail openly supported Hitler,
Mussolini, Osward Mosely and his Blackshirts, and Fascism in general in the 1930s.
It still relies on Jingoism and barely concealed racism for its support....
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Although I didn't know those things. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat
Do you know who prints Metro?
You beat me to it!"
The main difference being the stories are recycled from the London evening Standard making them even older again |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately, it means upping the hits on their website, but the comments sections at the end of stories are always worth a read - unintentionally hilarious and scary in equal measure.
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Some journalists did an experiment where they posted lines taken from Nazi speeches in the comments sections... the amount of upvotes they got on the Mail site were simply terrifying. |
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Yep. I remember that actually. Makes you very, very scared about some of the people who read that thing.
It's really well written, but with an agenda. Fantastic exercise in conditioning people to think a certain way, ie to be sexist or misogynistic, racist, anti state(what's the point of taxes, etc), and pandering to gluttony(house prices house prices house prices!), and scaremongering on a daily basis about health. Oh, and perpetuating homophobia.Just a hate filled rag which does very well out of stimulating and preying on some people's basic fears about life.
Check out this song about it. Kind of sums them up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
"Unfortunately, it means upping the hits on their website, but the comments sections at the end of stories are always worth a read - unintentionally hilarious and scary in equal measure.
Some journalists did an experiment where they posted lines taken from Nazi speeches in the comments sections... the amount of upvotes they got on the Mail site were simply terrifying."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The nasty bastards are at it again - harassing trans folk for their trashy tabloid fodder!
I'd have thought they would learn the lesson from how they had a hand in the suicide of the teacher, but no!
"Film-maker says she decided to go public about her transition after a ‘threatened public outing’ from Britain’s Daily Mail"
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/09/matrix-director-lilly-wachowski-comes-out-as-a-transgender-woman"
you don't like it, don't buy it
don't buy it, but still don't like whats written in it, - take action |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't read the mail , I much prefer the Sun 
96 Reasons not to read the SCUM
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you really need to stop using other peoples difficult period in life for your own shock factor on furums |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't read the mail , I much prefer the Sun
96 Reasons not to read the SCUM
you really need to stop using other peoples difficult period in life for your own shock factor on furums"
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It is actually a veiw shared by many many thousands of people... And it effected more than just those 96,their friends and their families. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's really well written, but with an agenda."
Very few of my journalism and writing colleagues would agree with you that the Daily Mail is 'well written'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't read the mail , I much prefer the Sun
96 Reasons not to read the SCUM
you really need to stop using other peoples difficult period in life for your own shock factor on furums
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It is actually a veiw shared by many many thousands of people... And it effected more than just those 96,their friends and their families. "
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Ha.well bully for them. List look at the Comment pieces by the likes of Melanie Philips before she moved to The Times.very skilfully manipulative.If you'll excise the needless extra adverb in the last sentence.
"It's really well written, but with an agenda.
Very few of my journalism and writing colleagues would agree with you that the Daily Mail is 'well written'."
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"that was 70 years ago you need to move on "
It was, but history does have a habit of repeating itself. Anyone old enough to remember the headlines alluded to above might be having the slightest twinge of deja vu. |
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"Sunday sport best paper there has ever been, it was all ballox and everyone knew it.. "
That's true;
Gems like
"WW2 bomber found on moon"
" Hitler was a Woman"
" Statue of Elvis on Mars"
"Bomber found on moon vanishes"
"Bus found buried at South Pole"
As you say; actually just as much bollocks as most newspapers; they just did it openly....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can't see the problem. Read it every day. Good paper!
Would you mind them outing you as a swinger?
I couldn't give a toss."
Me either....I am out already. More gay/bi/transgender people being "out" would be the best thing for making it more acceptable by "society".... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So wouldn't all the more left leaning folk support the Daily Mails right to publish in the spirit of free speech or would they take the right wing fascist view and ignore the fact that it's bought and read by so many people who obviously love it and who's views I guess it must represent?
Are they not entitled to their "wrong" views? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Outing" of whatever kind is morally reprehensible and just plain wrong in any way, shape or form and all media ought to be taken to task for it regardless of political leanings. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can't see the problem. Read it every day. Good paper!
Would you mind them outing you as a swinger?
I couldn't give a toss.
Me either....I am out already. More gay/bi/transgender people being "out" would be the best thing for making it more acceptable by "society"...."
The problem is that when we are 'outed' it has real emotional and financial repercussions for us. Families might disown us, friends might stop seeing us, employers might sack us, and clients might stop using us.
I do like the idea that everyone should be able to be 'out' - and I outed myself for exactly that reason (at great personal cost). However it is up to the individual to make the decision as to when their life is stable enough to cope with them being out. They might want to tell their Mum and Dad first, they might need to secure a set of new, more open-minded clients.
Not everything is simple. |
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By *van ArdenMan
over a year ago
Coleford, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire. |
Continueing the theme set out by you Manchestercub I have to say that the Daily Mail is the vilest apology for a newspaper that ever existed.
Although my wife buys it I simply refuse to read it or even look at it. It is so vile the owners should be charged under the Obscene Publications Act.
It is so so vile. |
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"So wouldn't all the more left leaning folk support the Daily Mails right to publish in the spirit of free speech or would they take the right wing fascist view and ignore the fact that it's bought and read by so many people who obviously love it and who's views I guess it must represent?
Are they not entitled to their "wrong" views?"
They are entitled to publish whatever they line ( free speech) as long as it's within the law.( it steers just on the right side of the law to avoid actually being prosecuted for racism)
By problem with it is that it doesn't do much " reflect views" as both
1. Take moderate people and persuade them to harden their attitudes
2. Pander to, and influence, the gullible. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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We believe that newspapers report the news. In actuality they push their own agenda and political stance. That is the reason why Rupert Murdoch is one of the most powerful and potentially dangerous people on the planet. His news channels, Newspapers and other media outlets influence opinions in a much subtler way than most people realise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We believe that newspapers report the news. In actuality they push their own agenda and political stance. That is the reason why Rupert Murdoch is one of the most powerful and potentially dangerous people on the planet. His news channels, Newspapers and other media outlets influence opinions in a much subtler way than most people realise. "
Spot on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We believe that newspapers report the news. In actuality they push their own agenda and political stance. That is the reason why Rupert Murdoch is one of the most powerful and potentially dangerous people on the planet. His news channels, Newspapers and other media outlets influence opinions in a much subtler way than most people realise.
Spot on
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...and also put him above the laws the rest of us have to adhere to. |
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The vile views it expresses are bad enough, the comments leave me speechless that human beings actually think that way. The amount of adverts disguised as news stories is laughable and the amount of "you tube" journalism is un-believable
My opinion for what its worth is that it is nothing more than a rabble rouser to stir hatred among the masses.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"theres nothing wrong with the daily mail its the 2 nd top selling newspaper to the sun so it cannot be that bad"
Hoping this is sarcastic?
McD's is probably Britain's top selling restaurant. But surely no one's going to say it's our best one?
Quantity of sales is not linked to quality of product in many cases.
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I find it funny that a lot of people trashing the Daily Mail on this thread loved it when the Daily Mail published the exclusive David Cameron "pigs head" story. You folks really need to make your minds up. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I find it funny that a lot of people trashing the Daily Mail on this thread loved it when the Daily Mail published the exclusive David Cameron "pigs head" story. You folks really need to make your minds up. "
The story was fake. Just like the editors and owners morals |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mainstream media is all the same, be it Daily Mail, Murdochs' rags or even the BBC. All little better than reading the Beano. I prefer genuine alternative media such as Russia Today, although the MSM institutionalised masses will protest it is propaganda. |
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I'd argue that many of the readers' views represent the 'views' of the paper, not the other way around.
"So wouldn't all the more left leaning folk support the Daily Mails right to publish in the spirit of free speech or would they take the right wing fascist view and ignore the fact that it's bought and read by so many people who obviously love it and who's views I guess it must represent?
Are they not entitled to their "wrong" views?"
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Didn't an AMerican anchorwoman quit live on air in protest at editorial interference?
"Mainstream media is all the same, be it Daily Mail, Murdochs' rags or even the BBC. All little better than reading the Beano. I prefer genuine alternative media such as Russia Today, although the MSM institutionalised masses will protest it is propaganda. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Didn't an AMerican anchorwoman quit live on air in protest at editorial interference?"
There were two very public walkouts on RT. One was Abby Martin who complained about Russia actions against Ukraine by taking back Crimea (after the West put in pro-EU Poroshenko as a puppet after ousting Russian backed Yanukovych), so she was wrong on that one because Russia was simply trying to stop NATO swiping Ukraine under their wing in contravention of the NATO pact which states NATO will not expand. Russia saw it as an act of aggression because once they have a puppet in Ukraine like Yats/Proshenko and Ukraine joins the EU, then NATO can be on their border, which the Russians knew all along, most people know Putin isn't stupid. So yes, Abby Martin backed the wrong horse despite claiming to be anti war and all that jazz.
The other was Liz Wahl and if you dig a bit deeper with her links to a guy called James Kirchik at the FPI, all becomes clear, it was planned lol.
As for Al Jazeera (and even BBC) just google or youtube "Al Jazeera lies" especially as regards Syria. The Al Thani despot owners of A/J, just like the UK/US and Saudis have been very keen on trying to oust Assad using "moderate rebels" (i.e loons), whilst Russia has been trying to help the existing secular government there.
Oh and also really it's all about a pipeline from Qatar (where A/J is based) Syria refused to go along with. |
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Wow. Ta. I shall have a bit of a reading sesh tomorra.
"Didn't an AMerican anchorwoman quit live on air in protest at editorial interference?
There were two very public walkouts on RT. One was Abby Martin who complained about Russia actions against Ukraine by taking back Crimea (after the West put in pro-EU Poroshenko as a puppet after ousting Russian backed Yanukovych), so she was wrong on that one because Russia was simply trying to stop NATO swiping Ukraine under their wing in contravention of the NATO pact which states NATO will not expand. Russia saw it as an act of aggression because once they have a puppet in Ukraine like Yats/Proshenko and Ukraine joins the EU, then NATO can be on their border, which the Russians knew all along, most people know Putin isn't stupid. So yes, Abby Martin backed the wrong horse despite claiming to be anti war and all that jazz.
The other was Liz Wahl and if you dig a bit deeper with her links to a guy called James Kirchik at the FPI, all becomes clear, it was planned lol.
As for Al Jazeera (and even BBC) just google or youtube "Al Jazeera lies" especially as regards Syria. The Al Thani despot owners of A/J, just like the UK/US and Saudis have been very keen on trying to oust Assad using "moderate rebels" (i.e loons), whilst Russia has been trying to help the existing secular government there.
Oh and also really it's all about a pipeline from Qatar (where A/J is based) Syria refused to go along with."
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Sunday sport best paper there has ever been, it was all ballox and everyone knew it..
That's true;
Gems like
"WW2 bomber found on moon"
" Hitler was a Woman"
" Statue of Elvis on Mars"
"Bomber found on moon vanishes"
"Bus found buried at South Pole"
As you say; actually just as much bollocks as most newspapers; they just did it openly....
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Bomber found on moon vanishes
I remember that. It was in 1985 when I first visited your country on a language exchange programme
I spent a good few minutes on the technicalities of how the bomber got there in the first place 
We didn't have newspapers like that in Germany at the time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd argue that many of the readers' views represent the 'views' of the paper, not the other way around.
So wouldn't all the more left leaning folk support the Daily Mails right to publish in the spirit of free speech or would they take the right wing fascist view and ignore the fact that it's bought and read by so many people who obviously love it and who's views I guess it must represent?
Are they not entitled to their "wrong" views?"
Either way that's fair enough..as long as they don't incite violence etc..proven I might add rather than just accusations from people who don't necessarily agree ..then surely their entitled to share and air those views as much as anyone else. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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There is a difference between having an opinion and slanting a story to suit an agenda. A prime example is the London Underground, the strikes were over changes to contracts, rosters, manning levels and safety issues. The Mail reported the strike as being about pay. The Mail also blamed certain industrial action on the RMT Union when that action was called by another Union entirely. If it doesn't suit their agenda, the Newspapers will lie. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't read the mail , I much prefer the Sun
96 Reasons not to read the SCUM
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Yawn....please please do not start the Hillsboro debate...everyone is tired of it |
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"I prefer Metro. At least it's quite neutral, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to form my own opinions without having a newspaper editor's shoved down my throat
Do you know who prints Metro?
You beat me to it!
That does make me feel a little grubby now.....
I'm still sticking with it though. It far less jingoistic and patronising than other papers."
And its free to I think its a great read for all that. |
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By *umourCouple
over a year ago
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"I don't read the mail , I much prefer the Sun
96 Reasons not to read the SCUM
Yawn....please please do not start the Hillsboro debate...everyone is tired of it"
Oh come on, people have to feel the victim for as long as possible these days. For the families? Yes, they will live with it for ever. The rest, just want to be part of the great upset!  |
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"I find it funny that a lot of people trashing the Daily Mail on this thread loved it when the Daily Mail published the exclusive David Cameron "pigs head" story. You folks really need to make your minds up.
The story was fake. Just like the editors and owners morals "
Was it though |
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