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Celebrates the social, economic, cultural and political achievement of women. Progress has slowed in many places across the world.
I've never felt like my expectations were different because I was female or my parents ambitions for me.
I think we are lucky in the UK. In other countries, it's a very different story.
Is it a much fairer society between the sexes nowadays?
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Today (8 March) is International Women's Day 2016. It’s a global day celebrating the social, economic, cultural and political achievements of women.
This year, International Women’s Day also marks a call to action for leaders to accelerate gender parity (equality in regards to position or pay) where it has not yet been achieved.
For instance, a recent analysis found that women in the UK earn an average of 24% less than men in equivalent jobs over their working life.
You can read more about these findings here: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/mar/07/gender-pay-gap-uk-women-earn-300000-less-men-lifetime |
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I'd like to think that in regards to opportunity we live in a fairer society.
However, in issues of representation we have quite a long way to go. I'm currently working a short article about the phenomenon of "replaceable" women in films. How a woman may be desirable in one film but then written out/ had her entire personality changed in the sequel.
Then again issues of representation need to be worked out through all minorities. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about it??
Umm... I dunno... some old toss!
Read the article, maybe?"
Nah ... think I'll move on to the next thread " shaving your scrotum " ..... way more interesting  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's now predicted that we won't achieve gender parity until 2133.
85% of women up to the age of 24 have been or regularly get touched without their consent in public places."
Well I'm sure glad Sabrina is in the 15% that get get regularly touched in public with her consent |
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Just look on here the amount of people who think we're not relationship material just because we like sex.
No we aren't equal at all but many people treat us like we are. |
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"Today (8 March) is International Women's Day 2016. It’s a global day celebrating the social, economic, cultural and political achievements of women.
This year, International Women’s Day also marks a call to action for leaders to accelerate gender parity (equality in regards to position or pay) where it has not yet been achieved.
For instance, a recent analysis found that women in the UK earn an average of 24% less than men in equivalent jobs over their working life.
You can read more about these findings here: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/mar/07/gender-pay-gap-uk-women-earn-300000-less-men-lifetime"
Well, women have had a 12% shorter working life, those 5 years have been at the end when you'd expect higher earnings. So that makes up the majority of the difference. Then I wonder if they have assumed say 1975-2015, if so that will not be representative of today's earnings, many women in 1975 didn't work at all. Then you have the career breaks for bringing up families. That I can see is an ongoing problem but not helped by family law that excludes fathers.
Evidence is that women are actually earning broadly similar salaries today. |
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"34% of people think a woman is wholly or partly to blame if she is raped when d*unk."
It depends on whether she consented while d*unk and changed her mind in the morning when sober .
I would wager there's many a fella who woke up the next morning when sober and regretted what he woke up with .
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Ok...
Aside from the fact that women also *choose* to take time off from work to give birth & raise kids and then find it difficult to rejoin the labour market...
I think you're conflating two issues tbh.
Today is International Women's Day, which is the point... you need a space to talk about family law, which is cool.
Go start a thread?
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"Ok...
Aside from the fact that women also *choose* to take time off from work to give birth & raise kids and then find it difficult to rejoin the labour market...
I think you're conflating two issues tbh.
Today is International Women's Day, which is the point... you need a space to talk about family law, which is cool.
Go start a thread?
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but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men. |
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"but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men. "
That's your experience. Mine has been quite different.
But we're not here to talk about men's problems or more specifically our own experiences?
International WOMEN's Day.
Just sayin'.
Someone else can do this - I'm off...
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"but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men.
That's your experience. Mine has been quite different.
But we're not here to talk about men's problems or more specifically our own experiences?
International WOMEN's Day.
Just sayin'.
Someone else can do this - I'm off...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...
Aside from the fact that women also *choose* to take time off from work to give birth & raise kids and then find it difficult to rejoin the labour market...
I think you're conflating two issues tbh.
Today is International Women's Day, which is the point... you need a space to talk about family law, which is cool.
Go start a thread?
but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men. "
Real equality would be the fact that we weren't automatically banging on about children on a thread about women. Because women would be able to be classed as important, useful and productive members of society without having to have children to be considered so. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"34% of people think a woman is wholly or partly to blame if she is raped when d*unk.
It depends on whether she consented while d*unk and changed her mind in the morning when sober .
I would wager there's many a fella who woke up the next morning when sober and regretted what he woke up with .
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And Vice Versa ? Rape is just one of those subjects which to me has no comedy value. There have been some horrendous cases worldwide in the news in recent years.
Jyoti Singh who was raped in that horrific attack in Delhi in 2012 was apparently to blame - according to one of the men who attacked her , because she went out at night.
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"34% of people think a woman is wholly or partly to blame if she is raped when d*unk.
It depends on whether she consented while d*unk and changed her mind in the morning when sober .
I would wager there's many a fella who woke up the next morning when sober and regretted what he woke up with .
And Vice Versa ? Rape is just one of those subjects which to me has no comedy value. There have been some horrendous cases worldwide in the news in recent years.
Jyoti Singh who was raped in that horrific attack in Delhi in 2012 was apparently to blame - according to one of the men who attacked her , because she went out at night.
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The poison has spread to Europe...along with hundreds of thousands of phoney male 'asylum seekers'. Today's example of their rapefest in Sweden reads as follows:
"Police in Östersund made the unusual move to ask women not to go out unaccompanied after dark, after reports of six brutal attacks by 'men of foreign appearance' in just over two weeks.
Speaking at a press conference on Monday, police said they 'have never seen anything like it in Östersund', a small town in the north of Sweden with a population of just 45,000."
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By (user no longer on site)
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A girl on my Facebook today posted saying along the lines of "happy womens day to the women who think there is more to life than being considered wank material"... talk about missing the fucking point!
Happy womens day to my sexually liberated fab friends who know that a woman is no more or less worthy for choosing to get some action on the regular  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nice to see them all lined up on front line in battle
but that will never be"
No it probably won't ever be. But the days of men "all lined up on front line in battle" are pretty much done too. There are female soldiers who have been fighting for the right to fight in the same roles as men for years.
I love how all the stuff on here is about women getting off sinking ships or fighting on the front line. It's not 1912 and life is not the titanic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There is still a long way to go before we have full equality.
I for one will be happy when that day arrives.I work with organisations and unions to improve the gender gap.
Woman have made a massive contribution to our world and it should be recognized.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just look on here the amount of people who think we're not relationship material just because we like sex.
No we aren't equal at all but many people treat us like we are."
equality when suits |
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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago
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"Real equality would be the fact that we weren't automatically banging on about children on a thread about women. Because women would be able to be classed as important, useful and productive members of society without having to have children to be considered so."
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"34% of people think a woman is wholly or partly to blame if she is raped when d*unk.
It depends on whether she consented while d*unk and changed her mind in the morning when sober .
I would wager there's many a fella who woke up the next morning when sober and regretted what he woke up with .
And Vice Versa ? Rape is just one of those subjects which to me has no comedy value. There have been some horrendous cases worldwide in the news in recent years.
Jyoti Singh who was raped in that horrific attack in Delhi in 2012 was apparently to blame - according to one of the men who attacked her , because she went out at night.
The poison has spread to Europe...along with hundreds of thousands of phoney male 'asylum seekers'. Today's example of their rapefest in Sweden reads as follows:
"Police in Östersund made the unusual move to ask women not to go out unaccompanied after dark, after reports of six brutal attacks by 'men of foreign appearance' in just over two weeks.
Speaking at a press conference on Monday, police said they 'have never seen anything like it in Östersund', a small town in the north of Sweden with a population of just 45,000."
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Which means that women are the ones paying the price though they are not the perpetrators. Women cannot just carry on with their lives but the perpetrators are part of the group who can carry on as they feel like. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just look on here the amount of people who think we're not relationship material just because we like sex.
No we aren't equal at all but many people treat us like we are."
Not everyone thinks like that though. I know some do, but many relationships have been formed on this site. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok...
Aside from the fact that women also *choose* to take time off from work to give birth & raise kids and then find it difficult to rejoin the labour market...
I think you're conflating two issues tbh.
Today is International Women's Day, which is the point... you need a space to talk about family law, which is cool.
Go start a thread?
but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men.
Real equality would be the fact that we weren't automatically banging on about children on a thread about women. Because women would be able to be classed as important, useful and productive members of society without having to have children to be considered so."
Yes, this.
I am so fed up with men who assume that when asking for 'women's rights' this is somehow related by default to children.
Personally I'm more concerned with things like similar educational and employment opportunities, and then equal pay while I'm there (did you know that one of the unions that many higher education professionals are members of did a survey recently - women are earning around 20% less than their male counterparts? Even when comparing like for like, experience for experience, and time served for time served?) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Rape is just one of those subjects which to me has no comedy value. There have been some horrendous cases worldwide in the news in recent years.
Jyoti Singh who was raped in that horrific attack in Delhi in 2012 was apparently to blame - according to one of the men who attacked her , because she went out at night.
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When Jyoti Singh was raped, her insides were so brutally damaged that the surgeons didn't know which parts of her internal organs to sew together with other parts of her internal organs? That they used her intestines like rope during the attack? That her surgeons told her parents that they didn't know how she could possibly still be alive after the attack?
And did you know at the time, some British men quite happily said 'she deserved it, she should have obeyed the rules of her country'.
We still have a lot of work to do. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Ok...
Aside from the fact that women also *choose* to take time off from work to give birth & raise kids and then find it difficult to rejoin the labour market...
I think you're conflating two issues tbh.
Today is International Women's Day, which is the point... you need a space to talk about family law, which is cool.
Go start a thread?
but the two issues are the same. Equality in work and in the family home requires women to let go of the kids. Something that they seem to think is not in their interests... not least because they get off a sinking ship first and they get a lot of kudos from the phrase women and children. If we have equality in women's roles it will go a long way towards equality for women.
By definition, you cannot have equality for women and not for men.
Real equality would be the fact that we weren't automatically banging on about children on a thread about women. Because women would be able to be classed as important, useful and productive members of society without having to have children to be considered so."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just look on here the amount of people who think we're not relationship material just because we like sex.
No we aren't equal at all but many people treat us like we are.
Not everyone thinks like that though. I know some do, but many relationships have been formed on this site. "
Yeah i agree and know some do but those who don't aren't treating us as equals because they're just as sexual as us but have a different standard for women than themselves.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"34% of people think a woman is wholly or partly to blame if she is raped when d*unk.
It depends on whether she consented while d*unk and changed her mind in the morning when sober .
I would wager there's many a fella who woke up the next morning when sober and regretted what he woke up with .
And Vice Versa ? Rape is just one of those subjects which to me has no comedy value. There have been some horrendous cases worldwide in the news in recent years.
Jyoti Singh who was raped in that horrific attack in Delhi in 2012 was apparently to blame - according to one of the men who attacked her , because she went out at night.
The poison has spread to Europe...along with hundreds of thousands of phoney male 'asylum seekers'. Today's example of their rapefest in Sweden reads as follows:
"Police in Östersund made the unusual move to ask women not to go out unaccompanied after dark, after reports of six brutal attacks by 'men of foreign appearance' in just over two weeks.
Speaking at a press conference on Monday, police said they 'have never seen anything like it in Östersund', a small town in the north of Sweden with a population of just 45,000."
Which means that women are the ones paying the price though they are not the perpetrators. Women cannot just carry on with their lives but the perpetrators are part of the group who can carry on as they feel like."
And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany |
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"And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany"
Your racism isn't welcome in the EU. |
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"And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany
Your racism isn't welcome in the EU."
I am sorry good lady, you are getting mixed up with racism & truth, you should focus on a latter |
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"And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany
Your racism isn't welcome in the EU.
I am sorry good lady, you are getting mixed up with racism & truth, you should focus on a latter"
Oh no, I'm definitely not mixed up.
Inferring that the men from another country are all sexual predators is definitely racism.
(Also, I'm not a lady. Thanks.) |
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"And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany
Your racism isn't welcome in the EU.
I am sorry good lady, you are getting mixed up with racism & truth, you should focus on a latter
Oh no, I'm definitely not mixed up.
Inferring that the men from another country are all sexual predators is definitely racism.
(Also, I'm not a lady. Thanks.)"
Ahhh, so it was all fun and games in Germany then, the ones groping every female they saw and worse was only for fun, the females involved should have smiled and thought it was okay, I guess that is what you are saying lady |
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"And its going to get far worse once we vote to remain in EU and the floodgates from Turkey open, all females, daughters and grand daughters will be targeted, it has already begun in Germany
Your racism isn't welcome in the EU.
I am sorry good lady, you are getting mixed up with racism & truth, you should focus on a latter
Oh no, I'm definitely not mixed up.
Inferring that the men from another country are all sexual predators is definitely racism.
(Also, I'm not a lady. Thanks.)
Ahhh, so it was all fun and games in Germany then, the ones groping every female they saw and worse was only for fun, the females involved should have smiled and thought it was okay, I guess that is what you are saying lady"
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"its called adding 2 & 2 together, difficult for some on here "
Are you infering shes not very intelligent? Good luck with that mate shes always 10 steps ahead of most.
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"its called adding 2 & 2 together, difficult for some on here
Are you infering shes not very intelligent? Good luck with that mate shes always 10 steps ahead of most.
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It was YOU who thought I was referring to her, some should look at their inner self
oh, and pssst, im not your mate |
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There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women |
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women"
To get from some men being sexual predators, which I agree with, to "all females, daughters and granddaughters will be targeted" is the leap that took it from a ring of truth to hyperbolic nonsense. |
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"Women are not necessarily better than men, and certainly no worse. In that, and that alone, lies the hope of true equality.
Sarah "
No better, no worse is the whole point of equality. |
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women
To get from some men being sexual predators, which I agree with, to "all females, daughters and granddaughters will be targeted" is the leap that took it from a ring of truth to hyperbolic nonsense. "
Ýeah quite a statment that from the guy,i suppose time will tell |
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Still plenty of work to do for sure by all, obviously including women as well. Progress has been made over time, but I can't see it changing much over the next few years, sadly. |
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"its called adding 2 & 2 together, difficult for some on here
Are you infering shes not very intelligent? Good luck with that mate shes always 10 steps ahead of most.
It was YOU who thought I was referring to her, some should look at their inner self
oh, and pssst, im not your mate"
Ypu werent talking to anyone else at the time so its a fsir deduction. Unless you want to man up amd enlighten us? Mate was sarcasm clearly! |
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women"
An American woman has told how she was rescued from being sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne by a group of Syrian refugees. The refugees formed a cordon round her and helped her find her boyfriend. We are in danger of tarring a whole race with the same brush. That's just wrong.
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women
An American woman has told how she was rescued from being sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne by a group of Syrian refugees. The refugees formed a cordon round her and helped her find her boyfriend. We are in danger of tarring a whole race with the same brush. That's just wrong.
Sarah "
Thats a great story how did you hear about that? |
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women
An American woman has told how she was rescued from being sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne by a group of Syrian refugees. The refugees formed a cordon round her and helped her find her boyfriend. We are in danger of tarring a whole race with the same brush. That's just wrong.
Sarah
Thats a great story how did you hear about that?"
With my ears. |
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"There is a ring of truth in what he is saying though,the germans welcomed them with open arms baring gifts and some of the men went on tou sexually assault alot of women
An American woman has told how she was rescued from being sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne by a group of Syrian refugees. The refugees formed a cordon round her and helped her find her boyfriend. We are in danger of tarring a whole race with the same brush. That's just wrong.
Sarah
Thats a great story how did you hear about that?
With my ears. "
No need for that just asking |
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"Did you know a manchester man was raped by 2 samalion men about a year ago.it doesnt even make the local papers when a man gets raped
Sad but true
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To be fair, it generally doesn't make the papers when a woman gets raped either - unless it happened in particularly horrifying circumstances. |
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"Did you know a manchester man was raped by 2 samalion men about a year ago.it doesnt even make the local papers when a man gets raped
Sad but true
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And how often do you think it makes the papers when anyone is raped?
If it's being properly investigated then there is anonymity to protect the victim and or witnesses.
Two women every week are murdered by a partner or former partner.
That rarely makes the papers either. |
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