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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on how much you believe her story. Been using the meds for 10 years as a legal substance, only became 'banned' on 1st Jan this year. She says she wasn't aware that the status changed ...
She's either guilty of deliberately cheating or her coaching / medical staff of being negligent / unprofessional in checking the 'new' rules from 1 Jan.
Neither is a defence but one is less 'bad' than the other |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'll be happy to offer a place to stay while she serves out any ban .....
I mean I'll even hang a picture over that strategically placed hole in the bathroom wall .....  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does anyone know what ailment she was talking the medication for as 10 years without a change seems like either a failure to properly treat a problem, addiction or it's use as a masking agent?"
Pushy parents syndrome..?  |
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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Does anyone know what ailment she was talking the medication for as 10 years without a change seems like either a failure to properly treat a problem, addiction or it's use as a masking agent?"
The two conditions linked to this are magnesium deficiency and diabetes.
Since the drug is not licensed for use in most locations there is less public information on it than for a lot of pharmaceuticals and in a quick search I'm not seeing much in the literature for this drug and magnesium deficiency. It has, however, been trialed in animal studies as part of a combination treatment for diabetes.
This may be a legitimate reason for taking the drug but, in my opinion, a professional sports person and their management team should still have known the rule changes and adapted the treatment regime appropriately. |
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Does she think we are all stupid?
If she was ill enough to need this medicine for treatment, she would not be able to play tennis professionally.
This medicine is designed to enhance the exchange of oxygen in blood ( hence why it is legitimate for people with heart problems).
It wasnt banned for athletics previously, so loads of athletes have been using it to improve thier oxygen flow.
Now the athletics federation wised up to its use , it's been banned for athletes; her advisors missed a trick in not getting her off it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does she think we are all stupid?
If she was ill enough to need this medicine for treatment, she would not be able to play tennis professionally.
This medicine is designed to enhance the exchange of oxygen in blood ( hence why it is legitimate for people with heart problems).
It wasnt banned for athletics previously, so loads of athletes have been using it to improve thier oxygen flow.
Now the athletics federation wised up to its use , it's been banned for athletes; her advisors missed a trick in not getting her off it."
There will be less thumbs up and more fingers pointing in Camp Sharapova.... |
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"Does anyone know what ailment she was talking the medication for as 10 years without a change seems like either a failure to properly treat a problem, addiction or it's use as a masking agent?
The two conditions linked to this are magnesium deficiency and diabetes.
Since the drug is not licensed for use in most locations there is less public information on it than for a lot of pharmaceuticals and in a quick search I'm not seeing much in the literature for this drug and magnesium deficiency. It has, however, been trialed in animal studies as part of a combination treatment for diabetes.
This may be a legitimate reason for taking the drug but, in my opinion, a professional sports person and their management team should still have known the rule changes and adapted the treatment regime appropriately."
On Radio 4 this morning, the suggestion was that the drug is most commonly used in the treatment of angina. No idea whether that is true.
It was legitimate to take it for the last 10 years until January of this year.
I give the lady the benefit of the doubt and suggest that she and her crew stupidly overlooked the rule change. |
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"Does she think we are all stupid?
If she was ill enough to need this medicine for treatment, she would not be able to play tennis professionally.
This medicine is designed to enhance the exchange of oxygen in blood ( hence why it is legitimate for people with heart problems).
It wasnt banned for athletics previously, so loads of athletes have been using it to improve thier oxygen flow.
Now the athletics federation wised up to its use , it's been banned for athletes; her advisors missed a trick in not getting her off it."
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"Has anyone actually read the list of banned substances? I doubt if there is a single sportsman or woman in the world who has not at some stage used at least 1 substance on the banned list."
If you are a professional sportsperson it is your responsibility to check if something that you are taking is not on the list.... you don't have to know everything that is on the list off by heart.
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
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"I've always been a big advocate of having a drugs Olympics. Let them take anything and see what happens."
That would be great. See who gets over the line before having a heart attack. Imagine what the women would look like. X |
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"Does anyone know what ailment she was talking the medication for as 10 years without a change seems like either a failure to properly treat a problem, addiction or it's use as a masking agent?
The two conditions linked to this are magnesium deficiency and diabetes.
Since the drug is not licensed for use in most locations there is less public information on it than for a lot of pharmaceuticals and in a quick search I'm not seeing much in the literature for this drug and magnesium deficiency. It has, however, been trialed in animal studies as part of a combination treatment for diabetes.
This may be a legitimate reason for taking the drug but, in my opinion, a professional sports person and their management team should still have known the rule changes and adapted the treatment regime appropriately.
On Radio 4 this morning, the suggestion was that the drug is most commonly used in the treatment of angina. No idea whether that is true.
It was legitimate to take it for the last 10 years until January of this year.
I give the lady the benefit of the doubt and suggest that she and her crew stupidly overlooked the rule change. "
Yes, it's medical use is primarily for Angina. ( where is facilitates oxygen exchange ). If she had angina, she wouldn't be playing tennis at professional level.
Sorry but no benefit of the doubt; she and her medical team knew they could get away with using it to enhance her oxygen exchange, and thus her performance; they got caught out; either because they missed an update bulletin on newly banned drugs, or thought that traces of it would be gone before her blood test, and timed it wrongly.
Tough luck; should have been better at cheating. |
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It seems this was on some kind of "under review" list for a year in the run up to it being banned, so she's been let down by whoever is providing advice on what they are able to get away with taking... |
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"Has anyone actually read the list of banned substances? I doubt if there is a single sportsman or woman in the world who has not at some stage used at least 1 substance on the banned list.
If you are a professional sportsperson it is your responsibility to check if something that you are taking is not on the list.... you don't have to know everything that is on the list off by heart.
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
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or if not her, then whatever doctor was prescribing it... |
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Sorry but no benefit of the doubt; she and her medical team knew they could get away with using it to enhance her oxygen exchange, and thus her performance; they got caught out; either because they missed an update bulletin on newly banned drugs, or thought that traces of it would be gone before her blood test, and timed it wrongly.
Tough luck; should have been better at cheating."
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Its use has been under review for months, so they should have been aware it was going to be banned. She, and many other athletes, took it for performance enhancement and she's not the only one that has been caught since the ban. |
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"Does anyone know what ailment she was talking the medication for as 10 years without a change seems like either a failure to properly treat a problem, addiction or it's use as a masking agent?
The two conditions linked to this are magnesium deficiency and diabetes.
Since the drug is not licensed for use in most locations there is less public information on it than for a lot of pharmaceuticals and in a quick search I'm not seeing much in the literature for this drug and magnesium deficiency. It has, however, been trialed in animal studies as part of a combination treatment for diabetes.
This may be a legitimate reason for taking the drug but, in my opinion, a professional sports person and their management team should still have known the rule changes and adapted the treatment regime appropriately.
On Radio 4 this morning, the suggestion was that the drug is most commonly used in the treatment of angina. No idea whether that is true.
It was legitimate to take it for the last 10 years until January of this year.
I give the lady the benefit of the doubt and suggest that she and her crew stupidly overlooked the rule change.
Yes, it's medical use is primarily for Angina. ( where is facilitates oxygen exchange ). If she had angina, she wouldn't be playing tennis at professional level.
Sorry but no benefit of the doubt; she and her medical team knew they could get away with using it to enhance her oxygen exchange, and thus her performance; they got caught out; either because they missed an update bulletin on newly banned drugs, or thought that traces of it would be gone before her blood test, and timed it wrongly.
Tough luck; should have been better at cheating."
I have no idea - nor do you. It is quite possible that she had an angina condition. That really would not stop someone being a professional tennis player. |
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"really believe she did,nt know, had been taking the medicine form for 10 years then they ban it on jan 1st ..... easy mistake i,d say...."
Do you seriously believe that one of the world's top sports people, with all the training , and all the backup and medical advice that they employ, and the relentless pressure to check for doping, really had no idea ( or her " team" had no idea) that she was using a banned drug?
Considering, when you read into it, that this drug has been " under review " for acceptability for at least a year?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sorry but no benefit of the doubt; she and her medical team knew they could get away with using it to enhance her oxygen exchange, and thus her performance; they got caught out; either because they missed an update bulletin on newly banned drugs, or thought that traces of it would be gone before her blood test, and timed it wrongly.
Tough luck; should have been better at cheating."
I agree
I read on something yesterday that hundreds of athletes tested have this drug in their system
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By *ildt123Man
over a year ago
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Depends on details really.
If as she claims she took it under prescription for a diagnosed health condition and that has for the last ten years listed it as a medication on her testing, there will be lots of documents to prove it. If there is she can apply for a retrospective TUE ( I think) and it will all go away.
If the documentary evidence isn't there she is fubar. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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the problem is that is licensed in russia and not in the US..... and she had been living in the US for the last 15 years.....
she is not the only person to be caught/caught out.... about a dozen cases in various different sports over the last 2 months.... all russian |
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"It seems this was on some kind of "under review" list for a year in the run up to it being banned, so she's been let down by whoever is providing advice on what they are able to get away with taking..."
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"the problem is that is licensed in russia and not in the US..... and she had been living in the US for the last 15 years.....
she is not the only person to be caught/caught out.... about a dozen cases in various different sports over the last 2 months.... all russian"
Not all are Russian |
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I did a thread about it to yesterday, they also said, that they were surprised she took it for 10 years as symptoms aint for that long and one of her sponsors didn't want to be with her anymore. |
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