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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So, the BBC bans Jeremy for decking his producer. Fair enough. The BBC hires Boy George as a judge on a music show? He is a convicted criminal. What the fook is going on? |
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people. "
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I like Boy George .
I also like Jeremy Clarkson .
Sabrina says she would have happily been locked in a dungeon with Boy George , and I would happily sit and have a cold meal with Jeremy at midnight in a remote pub at midnight after a hard days work .
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people. "
He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV. |
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never "
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV."
Write to the BBC and voice your concerns then. Start a petition. Protest outside New Broadcasting House.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved. "
So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone? |
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"So, the BBC bans Jeremy for decking his producer. Fair enough. The BBC hires Boy George as a judge on a music show? He is a convicted criminal. What the fook is going on?"
Clarkeson is a dick that was getting far too big and bolshy for his boots.
The BBC were left with no choice..
In the end it was a dossier of things, the physical assault he inflicted upon one his crew members being the final straw..
He wasn't the victim of a BBC PC conspiracy (the line of bs he seems fond of propagating) but his own inflated ego.
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved.
So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?"
I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved.
So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?
I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal. "
Yes he is. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved.
So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?"
No one has said it's ok to sexually assault someone.
We do have laws to prevent employment discrimination on the grounds of criminal convictions. We also have laws that would limit some former offenders working with children and vulnerable adults.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I actually agree.. False imprisonment of a male escort and assault with a metal chain.. 15 months sentence..
He should not be earning 300,000.. Mentoring people.. On prime time TV ..and being portrayed as a role model.... No matter how long ago the crime was.
Regardless of the Jeremy Clarkson.. Thing.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would you give a shit if you liked Boy George or disliked Jeremy Clarkson?"
No, he wouldn't. Plenty of others out there with worse 'employability'.
Clarkson is a twat anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV.
Write to the BBC and voice your concerns then. Start a petition. Protest outside New Broadcasting House.
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I believe there is already a petition running |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I actually agree.. False imprisonment of a male escort and assault with a metal chain.. 15 months sentence..
He should not be earning 300,000.. Mentoring people.. On prime time TV ..and being portrayed as a role model.... No matter how long ago the crime was.
Regardless of the Jeremy Clarkson.. Thing.. "
Well, the Jeremy thing was a comparison. Just to make the debate interesting. But I do agree. The fooker is a convict (no matter how much people might like Karma Chameleon) and I cannot understand why we are paying for his appearances. |
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"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.
Unless he's on the sex offenders list?
Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never
He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.
And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved.
So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?
I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal.
Yes he is."
He didn't rape anyone. So sexual assault is a bit disproportionate term to use.
Not sure of the specifics ..something along the lines of a bdsm game getting out of hand with a male escort combined with illict drugs..
Clarkson wanted to be fired. His poor conduct was escalating and escalating. The BBC gave him many second chances to the point were perhaps he assumed he was untouchable. The BBC made the right decision.
He's also from a wealthy background and bum chums with Murdoch...he's not the "everyman" he portrays himself to be. Who the fuck cares ? He should've been biffa binned much sooner, if anything the BBC lacked balls and didn't do it brusquely enough.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?"
It seems like in the 70's and 80's you needed to be seedy to work at the Beeb! |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?
And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud? "
Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty? |
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"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?
And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?
Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?"
Yes he did. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?
And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?
Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?
Yes he did. "
Such a nice boy, I've always liked Richard ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?
And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?
Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?
Yes he did.
Such a nice boy, I've always liked Richard "
I have absolutely no evidence to back this up but I'm inclined to believe Richards story. He's no substitute for Terry Wogan on a Sunday morning though. |
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So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury! ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury! "
Sliding scale, depending on the severity of the offence. I know there are killers who have been rehabilitated doing my job. No concerns from me |
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury! "
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
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Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished |
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Now don't sit on the fence!
Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?
There's a fence with Polish builders on it? "
Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum. |
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Now don't sit on the fence!
Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?
There's a fence with Polish builders on it?
Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum."
Shit!
What did I miss? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Now don't sit on the fence!
Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?
There's a fence with Polish builders on it?
Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum."
I didn't read the thread. ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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Now don't sit on the fence!
Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?
There's a fence with Polish builders on it?
Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum.
Shit!
What did I miss? "
You missed it!!
Briefly someone posted about Rula Lenska her predilection for Polish vodka and a finished fence celebration and in the immortal words so often used in the forum it went tits up. ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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Now don't sit on the fence!
Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?
There's a fence with Polish builders on it?
Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum.
I didn't read the thread. "
It's five minutes I won't get back! ![](/icons/s/rolleyes.gif) |
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished "
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People do their job after their conviction is spent, fuck me, where do you want to draw the line OP?
Although I would like to see Boy George charged and convicted for singing shite like Karma Chameleon. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due." i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason |
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason "
Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.
Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason
Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.
Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.
My opinion. You're entitled to yours." I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok" |
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason
Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.
Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.
My opinion. You're entitled to yours. I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok""
As far as I'm aware he didn't rape anyone, you're getting a bit hyperbolic . it was a consenting bdsm game that got out of hand , illict drugs were involved (both parties).
He served time for malicious detention, not a sex crime. Clarkeson is an ass, he assumed he could casually inflict violence upon a lower ranking crew member and continue without consequence.
I like neither. But find clarkeson a fake, boring dick that knowingly panders to the lowest common denominator.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason
Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.
Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.
My opinion. You're entitled to yours. I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok"
As far as I'm aware he didn't rape anyone, you're getting a bit hyperbolic . it was a consenting bdsm game that got out of hand , illict drugs were involved (both parties).
He served time for malicious detention, not a sex crime. Clarkeson is an ass, he assumed he could casually inflict violence upon a lower ranking crew member and continue without consequence.
I like neither. But find clarkeson a fake, boring dick that knowingly panders to the lowest common denominator.
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"So you do the crime.
You do the time.
You should never be able to work again?
What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?
There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?
I hope you never make it onto a jury!
They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.
Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.
He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..
Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.
Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.
Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished
Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.
Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason
Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.
Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.
My opinion. You're entitled to yours. I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok"
As far as I'm aware he didn't rape anyone, you're getting a bit hyperbolic . it was a consenting bdsm game that got out of hand , illict drugs were involved (both parties).
He served time for malicious detention, not a sex crime. Clarkeson is an ass, he assumed he could casually inflict violence upon a lower ranking crew member and continue without consequence.
I like neither. But find clarkeson a fake, boring dick that knowingly panders to the lowest common denominator.
you are condoning unlawful imprisonment!"
Nope. Merely correcting you. You wording suggested a sex offence, there was no sex offence. He served time and entered into a rehabilitation programme to deal with his addiction issues.
Clarkeson disingenuously apologised under advisement of his management, landed a lucrative Amazon deal and left the BBC to foot the bill (your license fee money) for the compensation relates to his violent , narcissistic behaviour.
He should've done a little stint behind bars... Maybe he'd reconsider indulging is such behaviours so casually in future and learn some humility.
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Violence against a fellow member of staff would be deemed gross misconduct in general employment. That is different to if the same act had occurred outside of your working life. And experiences before you get a contract of employment are governed by entirely different rules.
Apples and oranges. |
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I cannot stand either of them. JC isn't the bloke he pretends to be and BG is just a fallen 80s post star with a criminal record. Put them both on a shopping channel and they can talk their drivel all day long. I don't drive a sportd car and I never did understand the gender bender thing.... Neither should be on the TV. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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It's nothing to do with defending Clarkson, he hit someone and was sacked. One person here seems to think that is a more heinous crime than imprisoning and torturing a rent boy purely on the basis that Clarkson is an upper class toff from Doncaster and George is from a south London council house.
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By *van ArdenMan
over a year ago
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My comments aren't valid as both Boy George and particularly Jeremy Clarkson absolutely nauseate me. Truly awful people.
If I had anything to do with recruitment on the BBC I would never have considered either of them in the first place. I don't pay the BBC money to hire p***ks like them.
The BBC and Jimmy Saville ?.Don't even start me on that one ! |
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"I think this is more about trying to defend and justify Clarkson's behaviour than a genuine issue with Boy George's behaviour "
One has been genuinely punished, the other has not, in any meaningful sense anyway. I wouldn't compare them .
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I love the way these threads always degenerate into a who is better/worse than who...and totally lose the plot!
This country has rehabilitation of offenders legislation.
Boy George served sentence, rehabilitated, now no longer needs to declare convictions, nor are employers even allowed to take into account.
Clarkeson wasn't actually convicted as far as I know...was sacked for gross misconduct.
Neither of them are my favourite people...but both are perfectly, legally employable should people wish to do do! |
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"He was hired, more likely because if his saxuality. You can't employ the best person for the job anymore, you have to employ the person with the correct colour skin/ disability/ sexuality."
What utter bollocks. You have to hire representatively. |
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