FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Citizens Advice Bureau
Citizens Advice Bureau
Jump to: Newest in thread
Our local city council have said that they are going to stop all funding for The towns Citizen Advice Bureau at the End of march, they blame the government Cuts of £45,000,000 and in doing so will Effectively make derby the only town or city in The country with out one and this council is cutting everywhere where Neibouring boroughs are not haveing to, I,ve just given my support by on line voteing If you maybe Interested look up google on this subject and give your support for A very just cause..  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
 |
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
We might as well not have one, CAB.
Last time my council asked us what cuts should be made, i asked why not tell the government you need more money instead of cutting everything. Nobody said fuck all. I know money doesn't grow on trees for us commoners but it's about time it did. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"We might as well not have one, CAB.
Last time my council asked us what cuts should be made, i asked why not tell the government you need more money instead of cutting everything. Nobody said fuck all. I know money doesn't grow on trees for us commoners but it's about time it did."
Yes when essential services like this are effected it will have a knock on effect and somewhere down the line it will all come back knocking on the councils door, I,m sure joe public does not hear everything that goes on in the chambers I,m not denying the £45,000,000 is not makeing it tough for the council but joe public never seems to get a break now days where the purse strings are concerned and even more so starting with the council tax this year at 4% more it would be nice to be positive but while this carrys on its difficult. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Our local city council have said that they are going to stop all funding for The towns Citizen Advice Bureau at the End of march, they blame the government Cuts of £45,000,000 and in doing so will Effectively make derby the only town or city in The country with out one and this council is cutting everywhere where Neibouring boroughs are not haveing to, I,ve just given my support by on line voteing If you maybe Interested look up google on this subject and give your support for A very just cause.. "
I live in Aheffield the cuts are fucking hopeless and the CAB is try to do what it can under extreme adversity.
Problem is nowadays no ones prepared to stand up and fight.
Peeps just stand there with one foot in a bucket of shit and smile |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"We might as well not have one, CAB.
Last time my council asked us what cuts should be made, i asked why not tell the government you need more money instead of cutting everything. Nobody said fuck all. I know money doesn't grow on trees for us commoners but it's about time it did.
Yes when essential services like this are effected it will have a knock on effect and somewhere down the line it will all come back knocking on the councils door, I,m sure joe public does not hear everything that goes on in the chambers I,m not denying the £45,000,000 is not makeing it tough for the council but joe public never seems to get a break now days where the purse strings are concerned and even more so starting with the council tax this year at 4% more it would be nice to be positive but while this carrys on its difficult."
This gov. acts like charities exist for no reason and aren't needed but says stupid things like 'oh yes people are using charity our plans are working', then yeah cuts funds to them.   |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Our council has plans to shut down a museum, and raise the rates, plus introduce a garden waste bin charge. Some other councils may be planning to cut adult care support for vunerable adults which is awful. That should be ringfenced by this government. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Our council has plans to shut down a museum, and raise the rates, plus introduce a garden waste bin charge. Some other councils may be planning to cut adult care support for vunerable adults which is awful. That should be ringfenced by this government. "
Its going to get worse and the sick and unemployed will be chastised further for being a drain on society. Of course Drs notes are now worthless as its much better to be assessed by an unqualified non medically trained heartless person every few months whose only motive is to get you off benefits. The endless letters that ask the same question in a different way that costs thousands etc. Oh and yes the more years you have paid into the system the worse the scrutiny. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Our local city council have said that they are going to stop all funding for The towns Citizen Advice Bureau at the End of march, they blame the government Cuts of £45,000,000 and in doing so will Effectively make derby the only town or city in The country with out one and this council is cutting everywhere where Neibouring boroughs are not haveing to, I,ve just given my support by on line voteing If you maybe Interested look up google on this subject and give your support for A very just cause.. "
I've signed the petition, OP. Although I live in London, I do believe that people should has access to services like this, wherever they live in the UK.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Well to be honest I'd rather they shut down the CAB in my town rather than the planned 15% council tax rise to deliver 'essential' services.
I've never used the bloody CAB and I don't think I know (well) anyone who has. I'd rather keep my blasted money! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Citizens Advice Bureaus are on paper a great service, but in terms of money they're so inefficient. I know charities which cover so much more and have less staff than a single branch of a CAB, I've worked with families for years and seen first hand the experiences they are having - poor advice, no organised approach, lack of professionalism etc, I know it's not the private sector but the costs they must have, there must be savings there to be made. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Citizens Advice Bureaus are on paper a great service, but in terms of money they're so inefficient. I know charities which cover so much more and have less staff than a single branch of a CAB, I've worked with families for years and seen first hand the experiences they are having - poor advice, no organised approach, lack of professionalism etc, I know it's not the private sector but the costs they must have, there must be savings there to be made. "
So who do people with no money who have problems getting benefits, advice on housing etc who are at their wits end turn to? They could i suppose ask their local mp who i am sure will have thier best interests at heart and there is a 50-50 chance they wont give a fuck anyway as they voted to put people in poverty and desperation anyway. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
What a Tory government cutting funding to councils yet making sure bankers bonuses can't be capped 
Yet 36% of the country fell for it
Wait til Cameron has messed around with the boundaries, meaning even harder to get them out, yet we are a democracy |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *iewMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Angus & Findhorn |
some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it"
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *iewMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Angus & Findhorn |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer?"
did I say that...... No
Having access to free advice is crucial, doesn't have to be an office in as many towns, a free helpline and satellite offices, mobile units.
all reduces cost |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
As our chief exec argued in house of commons...why does he expect the good public of his borough and employee face cut backs due to the government cocking up..the rich getting richer the large organisations getting away with billions by not paying tax |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer?
did I say that...... No
Having access to free advice is crucial, doesn't have to be an office in as many towns, a free helpline and satellite offices, mobile units.
all reduces cost"
And crucial information is lost. Otherwise rich people wouldn't see there solicitors they would ring em. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"As our chief exec argued in house of commons...why does he expect the good public of his borough and employee face cut backs due to the government cocking up..the rich getting richer the large organisations getting away with billions by not paying tax"
Because the odd million here or there makes the palms greasier |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *iewMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Angus & Findhorn |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer?
did I say that...... No
Having access to free advice is crucial, doesn't have to be an office in as many towns, a free helpline and satellite offices, mobile units.
all reduces cost
And crucial information is lost. Otherwise rich people wouldn't see there solicitors they would ring em."
cool, so you know what all rich people do.
I bow to your wisdom |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer?
did I say that...... No
Having access to free advice is crucial, doesn't have to be an office in as many towns, a free helpline and satellite offices, mobile units.
all reduces cost
And crucial information is lost. Otherwise rich people wouldn't see there solicitors they would ring em.
cool, so you know what all rich people do.
I bow to your wisdom "
Mm dont see many rolls royce cars parked outside CAB
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I think CAB are bloody shit. They don't know what they're talking about most of the time.
I agree!!! The amount of my "customers" that have been provided with the wrong advice is shocking "
Same here.
Some staff are excellent, others think they know it all and actually know very little.
Sadly they get lots of funding at the expense of other organisations locally that provide a much better service.
Nita
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *iewMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Angus & Findhorn |
"some great comprehensive advice
some shit
some to true people in need
some to people who have fuck all accountability for the mess they have got themselves into and want someone else to get them out of it
So in a mess fuck em then is your answer?
did I say that...... No
Having access to free advice is crucial, doesn't have to be an office in as many towns, a free helpline and satellite offices, mobile units.
all reduces cost
And crucial information is lost. Otherwise rich people wouldn't see there solicitors they would ring em.
cool, so you know what all rich people do.
I bow to your wisdom
Mm dont see many rolls royce cars parked outside CAB
"
now you are just being silly.
continue to fight for the less well off, it's admirable |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
We live in a digital age apparently. People don't need to visit offices anymore.
Unless you are part of the society that for one reason or another is not online or proficient in it. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"We live in a digital age apparently. People don't need to visit offices anymore.
Unless you are part of the society that for one reason or another is not online or proficient in it. "
Do you mean poor or old or infirm or people who dont have to use shops cos they can buy it online? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"We live in a digital age apparently. People don't need to visit offices anymore.
Unless you are part of the society that for one reason or another is not online or proficient in it.
Do you mean poor or old or infirm or people who dont have to use shops cos they can buy it online?"
No the part of society that is not online be that of any demographic and status. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"We live in a digital age apparently. People don't need to visit offices anymore.
Unless you are part of the society that for one reason or another is not online or proficient in it.
Do you mean poor or old or infirm or people who dont have to use shops cos they can buy it online?
No the part of society that is not online be that of any demographic and status. "
Proficient? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I've had the misfortune to need the CAB in my life. The quality varies from office to office as the staff are volunteers.
The last one I needed was beyond excellent though.
So pop in and volunteer if you want to try help save them  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"We live in a digital age apparently. People don't need to visit offices anymore.
Unless you are part of the society that for one reason or another is not online or proficient in it.
Do you mean poor or old or infirm or people who dont have to use shops cos they can buy it online?
No the part of society that is not online be that of any demographic and status.
Proficient?"
As in proficient in the use of a computer or device. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"OK so how many people on this thread actually voted at the last election?
And if you voted Tory they are doing exactly what they said they would do!"
This pisses me off no end....
National government are NOT local government. Yes they have links but they run their own budgets.
It really does not matter who said what at the election, the County Councils are making the cuts. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"OK so how many people on this thread actually voted at the last election?
And if you voted Tory they are doing exactly what they said they would do!
This pisses me off no end....
National government are NOT local government. Yes they have links but they run their own budgets.
It really does not matter who said what at the election, the County Councils are making the cuts."
Yes it pisses me off too.
Where do councils get ALL of their money from? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"OK so how many people on this thread actually voted at the last election?
And if you voted Tory they are doing exactly what they said they would do!
This pisses me off no end....
National government are NOT local government. Yes they have links but they run their own budgets.
It really does not matter who said what at the election, the County Councils are making the cuts."
Sorry kinky the cuts in budgets come from national government so the local councils have to cut somewhere? Not a single youth club run by the council in Staffordshire anymore 
Yet for 10 years tax Google got away with how little? And Osborne says that's a result? Please |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Sorry kinky the cuts in budgets come from national government so the local councils have to cut somewhere?"
Exactly, and if a county council chooses to cut a CAB rather than something else then it is the county council's decision.
I'm not saying it is the right decision or anything, just that it is not a direct national government decision.
The point being have a go at your local councillors, lobby them, complain to them and make your voice heard locally. Do something.
Lots of people don't realise this is where change can actually be made sometimes |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Sorry kinky the cuts in budgets come from national government so the local councils have to cut somewhere?
Exactly, and if a county council chooses to cut a CAB rather than something else then it is the county council's decision.
I'm not saying it is the right decision or anything, just that it is not a direct national government decision.
The point being have a go at your local councillors, lobby them, complain to them and make your voice heard locally. Do something.
Lots of people don't realise this is where change can actually be made sometimes "
It is a direct response of austerity that doesn't seem to affect big corporations or city bonuses |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"It is a direct response of austerity that doesn't seem to affect big corporations or city bonuses"
Agreed, but they are a whole different subject. The UK tax system needs an overhaul in my opinion. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"It is a direct response of austerity that doesn't seem to affect big corporations or city bonuses
Agreed, but they are a whole different subject. The UK tax system needs an overhaul in my opinion."
But that's why it's national government fault, they've spent more time on changing boundaries, defending banker bonuses and arguing about Brexit that tax avoidance is being neglected, and when they do a deal is bloody awful a la Google |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"But that's why it's national government fault, they've spent more time on changing boundaries, defending banker bonuses and arguing about Brexit that tax avoidance is being neglected, and when they do a deal is bloody awful a la Google"
Policies have contributed to cuts but the county council makes the decision what gets cut. If another county council cuts something else then that area gets to keep its CABs.
I see cause and decision making as two different things. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"What a lot of people conveniently forget is who gave the UK such a deficit in the first place."
The banks mainly!!!!!
But as the Tories have out borrowed Labour every year despite saying they'd reduce please tell me? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Yes it pisses me off too.
Where do councils get ALL of their money from?
Council Tax, not national government. They only get some from national government."
Yes local tax and the government who can also reduce the amount of money given if they deem council tax rises to high. The bottom line is fire engine or cab and the fire engine wins. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Our local city council have said that they are going to stop all funding for The towns Citizen Advice Bureau at the End of march, they blame the government Cuts of £45,000,000 and in doing so will Effectively make derby the only town or city in The country with out one and this council is cutting everywhere where Neibouring boroughs are not haveing to, I,ve just given my support by on line voteing If you maybe Interested look up google on this subject and give your support for A very just cause..
I've signed the petition, OP. Although I live in London, I do believe that people should has access to services like this, wherever they live in the UK.
"
Thankyou cottonsu3.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The CAB in Derby is tiny as it is and extremely busy. As cuts bite deeper over the next couple of years then people will need services like this even more.
The likelihood is that council cuts will be lower in safe Conservative seats.
This government does not care one bit. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abphilMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
"The CAB in Derby is tiny as it is and extremely busy. As cuts bite deeper over the next couple of years then people will need services like this even more.
The likelihood is that council cuts will be lower in safe Conservative seats.
This government does not care one bit."
Its a bit less though |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Our council has plans to shut down a museum, and raise the rates, plus introduce a garden waste bin charge. Some other councils may be planning to cut adult care support for vunerable adults which is awful. That should be ringfenced by this government. "
Yes (there was) mention here once about our museum but thats gone all quite now and we have many local treasures in there to,and This is our 3rd year where we are now paying a garden waste bin tax, for one bin from april to november its £40 and for two bins same period its £60, I have one bin and when you have a garden you have no choice but to pay it, If (ever) the government cuts stop I wonder if we,ll ever get free garden waste bins back again knowing this council its unlikely.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
