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over a year ago
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How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
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always put up an undercoat,and you can get paint with pva in it i think,and with a roller dont use the back and forth,roll away from you ,dont go back over the paint with the roller,especially on new plaster |
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
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You can use PVA as a sealer/primer so to speak but if you don't get the solution quite right you can end up with paint sticking to the dried skin of the PVA rather than the ceiling.
I'm a plasterer and decorator by trade (why is it always bloody ceinings that need skimming, such hard work)...so have much experience. I prefer to buy a cheap paint - Travis Perkins do a Glidden white emulsion which is very good in its own right. But simply apply a very thin (mist) coat of white paint. Leave it to dry and then you can apply two good coats of white. Trust me PVA'ing ceilings is a horrible process - I hate it.
In terms of wall colours - it's not easy when you have grey tiles, it depends on the other colours you have on units, work top, accessories etc. Happy to help if you want to PM me. |
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you cna also use a heavily diluited soloution of wallpaper paste on new plaster instead of PVA, instructions will be on tthe packet, its called sizeing
painted a friends newly palstered kitchen a fe wweeks ago, found the paint pads she had bought were a lot cleaner and no splashing compared to a roller, but teh paint does go on in a thineer coat so needed a couple of coats
and use paint thats made for kitchens, has a moisture / mould inhibitor in it |
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
You can use PVA as a sealer/primer so to speak but if you don't get the solution quite right you can end up with paint sticking to the dried skin of the PVA rather than the ceiling.
I'm a plasterer and decorator by trade (why is it always bloody ceinings that need skimming, such hard work)...so have much experience. I prefer to buy a cheap paint - Travis Perkins do a Glidden white emulsion which is very good in its own right. But simply apply a very thin (mist) coat of white paint. Leave it to dry and then you can apply two good coats of white. Trust me PVA'ing ceilings is a horrible process - I hate it.
In terms of wall colours - it's not easy when you have grey tiles, it depends on the other colours you have on units, work top, accessories etc. Happy to help if you want to PM me."
Being a sparky mainly we may not get on as they tend to leave all the socket boxes filled and it's - I'm sure there was 5 points in this room
Lol
I hate painting but just about all done apart from the kitchen.
Picked up 10 litres of emulsion for under £20 Johnstones. There is a 'mist' of paint on there already,that's how the whole place was when moved in about 4 yrs ago.
The hall ceiling sucked about 5 coats in though ! Bedroom did not seem so bad at 3 coats.
Looking at some of the other comments may be my rolling action is to be addressed too though
Thanks for the advice - got my pole / roller and hidden the tub of PVA.
Got a Crown chart of inspiration for colours too from the hardware shop.
Bring a brush party ?? |
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Not an expert on techniques but as for colour, it depends on how much natural light you get and at different times of the year?
Also the paint designed for bathrooms and kitchens is generally 'wipe clean', come to think of it that would be handy for meets lol |
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
You can use PVA as a sealer/primer so to speak but if you don't get the solution quite right you can end up with paint sticking to the dried skin of the PVA rather than the ceiling.
I'm a plasterer and decorator by trade (why is it always bloody ceinings that need skimming, such hard work)...so have much experience. I prefer to buy a cheap paint - Travis Perkins do a Glidden white emulsion which is very good in its own right. But simply apply a very thin (mist) coat of white paint. Leave it to dry and then you can apply two good coats of white. Trust me PVA'ing ceilings is a horrible process - I hate it.
In terms of wall colours - it's not easy when you have grey tiles, it depends on the other colours you have on units, work top, accessories etc. Happy to help if you want to PM me.
Being a sparky mainly we may not get on as they tend to leave all the socket boxes filled and it's - I'm sure there was 5 points in this room
Lol
I hate painting but just about all done apart from the kitchen.
Picked up 10 litres of emulsion for under £20 Johnstones. There is a 'mist' of paint on there already,that's how the whole place was when moved in about 4 yrs ago.
The hall ceiling sucked about 5 coats in though ! Bedroom did not seem so bad at 3 coats.
Looking at some of the other comments may be my rolling action is to be addressed too though
Thanks for the advice - got my pole / roller and hidden the tub of PVA.
Got a Crown chart of inspiration for colours too from the hardware shop.
Bring a brush party ?? "
No, there was definitely only the two sockets mate...I love sparkies actually, I usually get work tidying up after you.
PVA is fine just be careful the solution is not too high a concentration of PVA or you'll just have a PVA invisble skin on the ceiling. I would say a maximum concentration of 8pts water to 1 PVA. It's a horrible job though, your hands get all wet and sticky with horrible white gunk (queue gags). Definitely wear safety glases and a cap - it's a bugger if it gets in the eyes (waits again...).
Good luck though - a painting party would be interesting - especially if the invites went out to Fabbers - not sure you'd get much paint on the ceilings.
I have to say I only use Glidden/Dulux paints - I've used Johnstons and I've never got on with it. But it's each to their own/ |
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"White is the usual standard for ceilings, I think any other colour would look odd, but, its your kitchen, go nuts
I am proud to say I haven't painted one ceiling white in my whole house."
Did my bedroom ceiling a Magnolia 'ish' people thought I was nuts at first - added forest fruits (purple ish) to 2 adjoining walls and the other 2 a creamy colour.
Looks great and people seem to think it looks great now it's finished.
They ask what's this for .. and that up there ..
Depends who they are and if they need to know as to the reply
In about 15 minutes though it can look quite 'normal'
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
You can use PVA as a sealer/primer so to speak but if you don't get the solution quite right you can end up with paint sticking to the dried skin of the PVA rather than the ceiling.
I'm a plasterer and decorator by trade (why is it always bloody ceinings that need skimming, such hard work)...so have much experience. I prefer to buy a cheap paint - Travis Perkins do a Glidden white emulsion which is very good in its own right. But simply apply a very thin (mist) coat of white paint. Leave it to dry and then you can apply two good coats of white. Trust me PVA'ing ceilings is a horrible process - I hate it.
In terms of wall colours - it's not easy when you have grey tiles, it depends on the other colours you have on units, work top, accessories etc. Happy to help if you want to PM me.
Being a sparky mainly we may not get on as they tend to leave all the socket boxes filled and it's - I'm sure there was 5 points in this room
Lol
I hate painting but just about all done apart from the kitchen.
Picked up 10 litres of emulsion for under £20 Johnstones. There is a 'mist' of paint on there already,that's how the whole place was when moved in about 4 yrs ago.
The hall ceiling sucked about 5 coats in though ! Bedroom did not seem so bad at 3 coats.
Looking at some of the other comments may be my rolling action is to be addressed too though
Thanks for the advice - got my pole / roller and hidden the tub of PVA.
Got a Crown chart of inspiration for colours too from the hardware shop.
Bring a brush party ??
No, there was definitely only the two sockets mate...I love sparkies actually, I usually get work tidying up after you.
PVA is fine just be careful the solution is not too high a concentration of PVA or you'll just have a PVA invisble skin on the ceiling. I would say a maximum concentration of 8pts water to 1 PVA. It's a horrible job though, your hands get all wet and sticky with horrible white gunk (queue gags). Definitely wear safety glases and a cap - it's a bugger if it gets in the eyes (waits again...).
Good luck though - a painting party would be interesting - especially if the invites went out to Fabbers - not sure you'd get much paint on the ceilings.
I have to say I only use Glidden/Dulux paints - I've used Johnstons and I've never got on with it. But it's each to their own/ "
Roller the PVA on ??
Dulux I prefer - bloody expensive though and they had a sign for some big tubs cheaper but not due in til end of March...
These walls / ceilings don't seem to have much plaster on em .. so hope this primes all the celing and walls then some Dulux to finish on the Walls may be.
Do like good stuff and a bargain.
Party .. bring it on,paining can be done anytime and I'm in the process of sorting a party of about 6-8 people in total.
Some interested so far - if just men turn up though I'm afraid it will be party on a piss up - up town !
Ideally 2 x couples,1-2 men,ladies as many as possible (always room for one more) and a Noob (M/F makes drinks,helps out when needed and sits in the corner when not required) |
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You only really need to PVA new plasterwork if you're going to paper it. This seals the plaster and stops it sucking the paste off the paper. If you don't the paper won't stick properly.
When painting new plaster you only have to give it a mist coat (20/30% water) followed by two full coats. If possible buy some cheap paint for the mist coat,as far as the finish coats are concerned,you really do get what you pay for. (unless you're mad enough to pay £60 a gallon for Farrow & Ball cos its shit) go for Crown or Dulux. The stuff B&Q sell isn't the same stuff you'd buy in a Crown or Dulux centre.
Use a medium pile roller sleeve and if its a new one make sure you rinse it out a few times before putting it in paint. otherwise you'll end up with fibres all over the place. alternatively,anyone in the south east,get a pro in. namely me! |
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
You can use PVA as a sealer/primer so to speak but if you don't get the solution quite right you can end up with paint sticking to the dried skin of the PVA rather than the ceiling.
I'm a plasterer and decorator by trade (why is it always bloody ceinings that need skimming, such hard work)...so have much experience. I prefer to buy a cheap paint - Travis Perkins do a Glidden white emulsion which is very good in its own right. But simply apply a very thin (mist) coat of white paint. Leave it to dry and then you can apply two good coats of white. Trust me PVA'ing ceilings is a horrible process - I hate it.
In terms of wall colours - it's not easy when you have grey tiles, it depends on the other colours you have on units, work top, accessories etc. Happy to help if you want to PM me.
Being a sparky mainly we may not get on as they tend to leave all the socket boxes filled and it's - I'm sure there was 5 points in this room
Lol
I hate painting but just about all done apart from the kitchen.
Picked up 10 litres of emulsion for under £20 Johnstones. There is a 'mist' of paint on there already,that's how the whole place was when moved in about 4 yrs ago.
The hall ceiling sucked about 5 coats in though ! Bedroom did not seem so bad at 3 coats.
Looking at some of the other comments may be my rolling action is to be addressed too though
Thanks for the advice - got my pole / roller and hidden the tub of PVA.
Got a Crown chart of inspiration for colours too from the hardware shop.
Bring a brush party ??
No, there was definitely only the two sockets mate...I love sparkies actually, I usually get work tidying up after you.
PVA is fine just be careful the solution is not too high a concentration of PVA or you'll just have a PVA invisble skin on the ceiling. I would say a maximum concentration of 8pts water to 1 PVA. It's a horrible job though, your hands get all wet and sticky with horrible white gunk (queue gags). Definitely wear safety glases and a cap - it's a bugger if it gets in the eyes (waits again...).
Good luck though - a painting party would be interesting - especially if the invites went out to Fabbers - not sure you'd get much paint on the ceilings.
I have to say I only use Glidden/Dulux paints - I've used Johnstons and I've never got on with it. But it's each to their own/
Roller the PVA on ??
Dulux I prefer - bloody expensive though and they had a sign for some big tubs cheaper but not due in til end of March...
These walls / ceilings don't seem to have much plaster on em .. so hope this primes all the celing and walls then some Dulux to finish on the Walls may be.
Do like good stuff and a bargain.
Party .. bring it on,paining can be done anytime and I'm in the process of sorting a party of about 6-8 people in total.
Some interested so far - if just men turn up though I'm afraid it will be party on a piss up - up town !
Ideally 2 x couples,1-2 men,ladies as many as possible (always room for one more) and a Noob (M/F makes drinks,helps out when needed and sits in the corner when not required) "
Best compromise between quality/price is Glidden Trade paint - it's ICI (same as Dulux), really well placed and covers fantastically. I wouldn't roller the PVA solution on, as it's so runny it will just flick everywhere.
I bought a wide brush with a head that can tilt to 90 degrees. Best way I've found of getting PVA on to ceilings.
Travis Perkins or Dulux decorating centres are the best places to get Gliddens paint from and either Dulux or Glidden "Trade" paint looks dearer per tin than you'd find in DIY places but it goes quite a bit further.
If any of the plaster comes off onto the roller PM and I can talk you through sorting it.
Good luck with the party - I guess the better the company the worse the paint job |
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"You only really need to PVA new plasterwork if you're going to paper it. This seals the plaster and stops it sucking the paste off the paper. If you don't the paper won't stick properly.
When painting new plaster you only have to give it a mist coat (20/30% water) followed by two full coats. If possible buy some cheap paint for the mist coat,as far as the finish coats are concerned,you really do get what you pay for. (unless you're mad enough to pay £60 a gallon for Farrow & Ball cos its shit) go for Crown or Dulux. The stuff B&Q sell isn't the same stuff you'd buy in a Crown or Dulux centre.
Use a medium pile roller sleeve and if its a new one make sure you rinse it out a few times before putting it in paint. otherwise you'll end up with fibres all over the place. alternatively,anyone in the south east,get a pro in. namely me! "
Sorry Tra Mar - was typing my essay when you posted. Agree with you - misting best solution. PVA'ing ceilings which I do prior to skimming is horrible. |
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"Not an expert on techniques but as for colour, it depends on how much natural light you get and at different times of the year?
Also the paint designed for bathrooms and kitchens is generally 'wipe clean', come to think of it that would be handy for meets lol "
Light tends to be sun in the afternoon - evening. Window is relatively small.
Otherwise a striplight.
I like all my walls to be wipe clean.
Meet up in the kitchen then ??
Party ??
Would be easier as I will just paint it soon and see what happens
I've managed to give it a going over a feather duster so far ..
Bought a new roller with a pole. Dug out some old rollers and brushes.
All ready to get on and sure I had a paint tray .. About 4 to be precise.
After looking for 30 minutes recall throwing them after abusing them during re-fitting the bathroom.
O well get one tomorrow and a few drinks instead tonight.
Party Saturday night actually sounds like a dam good idea.
Can do many things but painting and digging I am easily distracted.
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"How do you paint yours ?
Kitchen to do - few days off. Like to keep motivated but have a look about now and again during a tea break etc..
I'm going for a roller on a long pole to start.
Probably a bit of PVA 1st as the newish plaster it just sucks paint in by the gallon.
I'm no decorator but like to do a good job so any help/advice appreciated.
Undecided for colour for walls - I like a bit of colour though and not really looked yet.
White units - slate/marble looking worktops with grey tiles above.
SO what colour to add a bit of 'life' ??
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DONT DONT DONT DONT...PUT PVA OVER BARE PLASTER..TRUST ME ITS AN OLD WIVES TALE AND DOESNT WORK!!!!..
YES IM 'SOUTING' BUT I NEED YOUR ATTENTION.
Colour...its a personal thing..but if you want lfe dont go for any neutrals..maybe pale lemon?..or a frsh green, aviod anything with gret in the formulation.
And remember......LEAVE THE PVA ALONE!!!!! |
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Oh and do as 'tra mar' suggests...thin out the first coat...use matt and not silk as silk tends to show up all the defects especially in new plaster..
AND REMEMBER..LEAVE THE PVA ALONE...AND WALLPAPER PASTE! |
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Not bad for a sparky
Forgot the PVA.
First coat left a few 'bits' probably need some help with 'technique'
Sanded them bits off and just washed up the rollers etc from the second coat.
As far as the ceiling goes JOB DONE |
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