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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?

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By *iBBWLondonWoman  over a year ago

London


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

Dick & Dom in da bungalow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nectar points

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would argue for the other side. We've been kinda shit.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

I give up... Tell me

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By *elvet RopeMan  over a year ago

by the big field


"I would argue for the other side. We've been kinda shit.

-Courtney "

We're the biggest and most dangerous parasite on the planet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Most people have great family values . We have priciples and morals (oops I'm on fab )

The problem is that the people making the real decisions in politics and governments cant stop killing and bombing each other while they relax at home upholding their principles ,morals and values just for themselves.

So we would be removed off the face of the earth ...except for me because I'm only here for research .

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Music. In all it's various forms.

It may not be enough mitigation to save us but exposing the court to some wonderful music may soften the sentence.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given."

Given or taken?

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By *ervent_fervourMan  over a year ago

Halifax

Empathy.allegedly.

And kitten pictures.

And Jon Snow.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't buy into all this 'humans are parasites/evil' stuff.

People are amazing. The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't buy into all this 'humans are parasites/evil' stuff.

People are amazing. The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome "

We would be awesome. We just destroy what's around us.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"People are amazing. The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome "

Some of us already are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People are amazing. The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

Some of us already are "

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

Given or taken?

"

I mean in terms of human traits. We've done pretty badly with what we've taken.

I suppose it depends on if you think we have control as a species over how long we're going to survive or if we're on some path dictated by our inherent human failings that can only end in disaster.

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By *xBadGirlxxTV/TS  over a year ago

truro


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given."

In that we have vastly overpopulated the Earth and are now in the process off stripping it of all its natural resources and in some cases causing the extinction of other species all in the name of progress and profit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mecca bingo.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mecca bingo."

Case closed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

In that we have vastly overpopulated the Earth and are now in the process off stripping it of all its natural resources and in some cases causing the extinction of other species all in the name of progress and profit. "

Easily reversed. Stop distributing aid to developing countries. Happy now?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

In that we have vastly overpopulated the Earth and are now in the process off stripping it of all its natural resources and in some cases causing the extinction of other species all in the name of progress and profit. "

That's my point. We are doing what humans do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pot noodle, it's like a meal from the gods!

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

Considering how many of us there are and the things human's have been through, and some are still going through, I think we've done well.

If the court is mainly male then boobs & cleavage should do it

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

Given or taken?

I mean in terms of human traits. We've done pretty badly with what we've taken.

I suppose it depends on if you think we have control as a species over how long we're going to survive or if we're on some path dictated by our inherent human failings that can only end in disaster."

I saw a piece on the telly box as I was dressing for work this morning. Apparently, we're in the Anthropocene epoch. All the matter we have made now has a geological layer and we're affecting the ecosystems.

Is our curiosity, desire and ability to change things our inherent failings?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

In that we have vastly overpopulated the Earth and are now in the process off stripping it of all its natural resources and in some cases causing the extinction of other species all in the name of progress and profit.

Easily reversed. Stop distributing aid to developing countries. Happy now?"

As long as we give them Coca Cola , and McDonald's

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Considering how many of us there are and the things human's have been through, and some are still going through, I think we've done well.

If the court is mainly male then boobs & cleavage should do it "

Even if they're all gay?

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By *ervent_fervourMan  over a year ago

Halifax

If only we could get rid of money.that would be a start,if managed properly.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

Given or taken?

I mean in terms of human traits. We've done pretty badly with what we've taken.

I suppose it depends on if you think we have control as a species over how long we're going to survive or if we're on some path dictated by our inherent human failings that can only end in disaster.

I saw a piece on the telly box as I was dressing for work this morning. Apparently, we're in the Anthropocene epoch. All the matter we have made now has a geological layer and we're affecting the ecosystems.

Is our curiosity, desire and ability to change things our inherent failings?

"

In a way yes, I think they are or at least the fact that we aren't able to foresee how the results of our curiosity will affect things and our desire and ability to change things isn't always for the better. We're flawed, I don't know what we can do about that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would say to them; in my pocket I carry a device through which I can access all the collective knowledge and accumulated wisdom of mankind. I use it to argue with strangers and watch videos of kittens.

Personally I think were screwed!

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Considering how many of us there are and the things human's have been through, and some are still going through, I think we've done well.

If the court is mainly male then boobs & cleavage should do it

Even if they're all gay?

"

They'll say they're straight anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would say to them; in my pocket I carry a device through which I can access all the collective knowledge and accumulated wisdom of mankind. I use it to argue with strangers and watch videos of kittens.

Personally I think were screwed!"

Haha!!

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"I would say to them; in my pocket I carry a device through which I can access all the collective knowledge and accumulated wisdom of mankind. I use it to argue with strangers and watch videos of kittens."

That's brilliant, kitten videos will count in our favour too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So it's kind of an argument between whether we should have stuck with the monkeys (& not bred too much) or whether we should try to progress.

I'd rather plea that we tried to make the most of our short period on earth than lazed about in the shade of some trees.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd say to the Galactic court,.. Bring it on, we have Hans Solo and Captain James T Kirk on our team.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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"So it's kind of an argument between whether we should have stuck with the monkeys (& not bred too much) or whether we should try to progress.

I'd rather plea that we tried to make the most of our short period on earth than lazed about in the shade of some trees."

Yep! Mind you if someone asks me to justify myself I usually tell them to take a long walk off a short pier so I'd have us all doomed if the alien stopped me on the street.

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS  over a year ago

Belfast


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

Isnt there a star trek episode (next generation?) Themed around the premise of your question?

The q Continuum putting humanity on trial.. Or something.

Interesting episode...

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?

Isnt there a star trek episode (next generation?) Themed around the premise of your question?

The q Continuum putting humanity on trial.. Or something.

Interesting episode..."

...is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

"Make it so, Number 1."

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS  over a year ago

Belfast


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?

Isnt there a star trek episode (next generation?) Themed around the premise of your question?

The q Continuum putting humanity on trial.. Or something.

Interesting episode...

...is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

"Make it so, Number 1.""

https://youtu.be/-UqNIOc8rgc

Ugh. Why'd they have to ruin star trek with that " enterprise" bollox. Granted Scott Bakula is/was dishy as fuck.. But still

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?

Isnt there a star trek episode (next generation?) Themed around the premise of your question?

The q Continuum putting humanity on trial.. Or something.

Interesting episode...

...is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

"Make it so, Number 1."

https://youtu.be/-UqNIOc8rgc

Ugh. Why'd they have to ruin star trek with that " enterprise" bollox. Granted Scott Bakula is/was dishy as fuck.. But still "

Your taste in men is as bad as my woman's

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

Nuclear weapons, we have evolved so much that we have discovered weapons of mass destruction. Therefore we can wipe ourselves off the face of the earth without anyone helping us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

DIY SOS. I rest my case.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

I would plead guilty and beg for mercy,although a lot of manking does not deserve any

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sir that is a very harsh and cruel opinion. I shall be informing the real clem fandango of the fascism you are promoting in his name.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would argue for the other side. We've been kinda shit.

-Courtney "

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By *ait88Man  over a year ago

Plymouth


"The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome "

Every living thing on the planet will be extinct - including us!

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France

We should be castigated by this hypothetical court for our lack of ambition; it's 40+ years since a man set foot on the moon; if we had not been so wet and useless, we would be on Mars by now , and working out how to get beyond this solar system.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We should be castigated by this hypothetical court for our lack of ambition; it's 40+ years since a man set foot on the moon; if we had not been so wet and useless, we would be on Mars by now , and working out how to get beyond this solar system."

I've heard it was a hoax and we never really went to the moon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

our entry in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

Mostly harmless.

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By *heOwlMan  over a year ago

Altrincham


"The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

Every living thing on the planet will be extinct - including us!"

Not quite everything, some form of life will survive and start the next round of evolution, hopefully resulting in something better than us lot next time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

Every living thing on the planet will be extinct - including us!"

What bollocks.

The Earth has survived considerably worse than we can throw at it and will be here far beyond us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ha ...bi........after all these years.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We've done a terrible job at this shot we've had. Everything can change direction for the better however I think we've had numerous opportunities and we have passed that point of no return. Meh oh well, Geordie Shore begins soon! Just go and get my cow hormones from the freezer which have been loving milked by a farmer and frozen for my consumption

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By *oward1978Man  over a year ago

Rotherham

As a species we're one big fuck up. A genetic mutation too far. An evolutionary misstep. Capable of such greatness, we usually just end up pissing it up against the wall. Millions of other species on this planet have made a much better fist of things than humans ever have. We are and ultimately will be shown to be a failure. Too self-aware, too arrogant and too selfish to ever succeed.

As individuals we can do great things. Incredible feats. As a collective we have proven time and time again, that we are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Millions of other species on this planet have made a much better fist of things than humans ever have."

Name one.

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By *artytwoCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

That orange that's been sat in the bottom of the fruit bowl for a week or so and it's got some green powdery nasty stuff growing on it.

That's us and our effect on this planet that is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We feed wild birds

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

WE are the achievement. The only animal capable of contemplating its own existence, the one self-aware creature. The expression of the universe's own desire to experience itself. We summon all of reality into existence by perceiving it. Without us there would be no world as we know it. We are the light and the warmth in a cold dark universe. All good and all evil is in us. Humanity is the ultimate expression of the creative force of life. We tell the story of life to ourselves, making sense of the cosmos. We are mega.

Now, if that doesn't get me a kiss and a cuddle and a fuck and a love, I dont know what will!

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By *oward1978Man  over a year ago

Rotherham


"Millions of other species on this planet have made a much better fist of things than humans ever have.

Name one."

Probably most of them. It's only our self awareness and arrogance that makes us think we are somehow 'greater' than other forms of life. Our great flaw is that we all think we are someone, when in fact we are all no one. Here's a quote from a film I like which just about sums it up for me...

"Animals they don't have time to bother with the success of getting rich, don't have fantasies of glory, don't borrow money to buy things to decrease the value of while they own it, see, they are beautiful because they just are. They do what they do. Lion don't try to be a tiger, rabbit don't try to do an impression of a monkey. They don't try to be what they are not. Not like us, we human beings. The cheetah, the tiger, the snake, the monkey, the baboon, the muskrat, the bobcat, the pig that's fat, the hippo, the rhino, the dodo, the honey badger, the slithy toad, each one, each perfect in their own original form. Then man came in. Who created him, or for what purpose, is still a mystery. Why is he here? It's a mystery. We know he's trespassing, doesn't know his own place. Of course he doesn't know his own place, he doesn't have one. Man, the bear hunter, the fur trapper, the deer chaser, the baby seal clubber, the dolphin snagger, lowest form of existence, lowest form of existence... He goes around sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. The zoo, the aquarium, they are prisons for the animals, those animals can't learn anything from man, man don't have a thing to teach them. I don't even like looking at human beings, they disgust me so much with their atom bombs, their blowdryers, their automobiles. They build hospitals as a shrine to the diseases they create. Human beings, along with their secrets, masked and anonymous... If I see a crack in the sidewalk, to me it's more beautiful than any human being. A crack in the mud at the bottom of a sundried dead lake, I count that more beautiful than any human being. You know what I mean?" 

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Public forum orgy? That should swing it our way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mmmm i think id say....

Get back in your spaceship and fuck off back to Pluto you cunt!

I've every right to fuck up this planet because I'm a human and we're the dogs bollocks!...

PS can I come with you.... This place is a fucking mess but it wasn't me... Honest

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yangse river dolphins were the latest to be made extinct by us 'superior' humans. I think were by far, the worst creatures on the planet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If I see a crack in the sidewalk, to me it's more beautiful than any human being. A crack in the mud at the bottom of a sundried dead lake, I count that more beautiful than any human being. You know what I mean?" "

No. I think you're part of a long line of people spouting some populist crap with very little thought to what life is actually about.

All creatures are designed to evolve. We're just doing it better.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are greatest achievement as a species is getting here to this point in evolution, our next greatest achievement will be getting off the things that got us there before they kill us!

Why they shouldn't wipe us out, well that's easy... I'd just argue that they shouldn't bring themselves down to our level

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Considering how many of us there are and the things human's have been through, and some are still going through, I think we've done well.

If the court is mainly male then boobs & cleavage should do it

Even if they're all gay?

They'll say they're straight anyway "

FabS straight alien guys; that should be interesting

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By *artytwoCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

There is no human achievement, just evolution. No plan or design. Nobody says "right we're going to invent the steam engine, combustion engine, flight, iphones etc." These things happen through development, progress and the use of considerable intellect (the only thing unique to our species). Life is an accidental combination of circumstances.

We haven't done well, we've just 'done'.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I'm not sure that we'd have a convincing case to justify survival. We are knowingly sabotaging our planet's and fellow creatures' wellbeing, for the sake of a quick buck.

We're not ignorant of global warming and imminent mass extinctions but most people are doing nothing differently or expecting their governments to either.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

Every living thing on the planet will be extinct - including us!

What bollocks.

The Earth has survived considerably worse than we can throw at it and will be here far beyond us."

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The rate of development in the past 150 years has been incredible. Give us another hundred years and we'll be awesome

Every living thing on the planet will be extinct - including us!

What bollocks.

The Earth has survived considerably worse than we can throw at it and will be here far beyond us.

This"

..

Errm yeah that's debatable, I mean yeah the earth will be here, whether it will be able to sustain complex life is a different question.

I mean Venus is there but it ain't having no life on it anytime soon because it sufferers from extreme climate change, astrologers look for planets in what they term the Goldilocks placement, there's a very relative distance from the host star that allows for life as stars change size and intensity through there life cycle...

I mean to assume complex life would just start again, is a large assumption.... If it were that easy, Mars and Venus would be teeming with life, the fact they aint shows the fragility of it all

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Said Earth would still be here. Said nothing of complex life.

As for what's on Venus, in truth we haven't a clue. Last I heard there were some women there..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sexy brain bi......well I never

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given."

Sadly I'd disagree

Humans as a species are a paracite

We will over populate destroy and suffer despite the very best efforts of some

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By *ipswingCouple  over a year ago

portrush

50% of all extinct species has happened since 1970 ... smart or what ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

You don't need to worry about that . With how we kill our own kind for no reason any alien race would soon wipe us out just in case we turned on them

Hence why I know aliens don't exist

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" 50% of all extinct species has happened since 1970 ... smart or what ... "

That ain't true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" 50% of all extinct species has happened since 1970 ... smart or what ... "

More than 50% of all species that ever existed were extinct before humans existed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

...about 800 extinctions have been documented in the past 400 years, according to data held by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN). Out of some 1.9 million recorded current or recent species on the planet, that represents less than a tenth of one percent.

...Only 24 marine extinctions are recorded by the IUCN, including just 15 animal species and none in the past five decades.

That's what they know. The rest is guess work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just a question that popped into my head.

Supposing that our species was collectively called upon by some sort of galactic court to justify our existence and why we shouldn't be wiped from the galaxy, what would we testify to be our greatest achievement as a species, and upon which fundamental values do we possess, that you would argue could lead us to brighter and greater things?"

Thats a fucking awesome question I'm going to sleep on it .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thats a fucking awesome question I'm going to sleep on it . "

That might be the best answer so far

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Guilty!.....Off with their heads!

Na I'd break out the record player n some classic tunes for me n my wee alien buddy to chill to....bit spiders of mars obviously,rolling stones,stone roses,the who,led zeppelin,black Sabbath etc etc....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Said Earth would still be here. Said nothing of complex life.

As for what's on Venus, in truth we haven't a clue. Last I heard there were some women there.."

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There's nothing on Venus it's several hundred degrees.

If anyone wants to contemplate what runaway climate change looks like... They you go.

It took 4 billon years for "life" to develop on earth, about 500 million years later you got complex life, 250 million years after the great die off for complex life to resurface!.

To presume that we'll leave an earth worthy of complexity to start again is worryingly short of any evidence to the contrary!.

And quite frankly nobody gives a shit about what comes after us.

As an intelligent species, we really should be concerned about extending our own life span!, however it seems were really not that bothered, so one could conclude were not as bright as we think

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As an intelligent species, we really should be concerned about extending our own life span!, however it seems were really not that bothered, so one could conclude were not as bright as we think"

Our intelligence is the thing most likely to remain. Albeit likely not in human form.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As an intelligent species, we really should be concerned about extending our own life span!, however it seems were really not that bothered, so one could conclude were not as bright as we think

Our intelligence is the thing most likely to remain. Albeit likely not in human form."

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No I think our pollution will be our biggest and longest living legacy.

I mean depleted uranium has a half life of 4 billon years, which coincidentally enough is the same life span of the earth.

And I mean the ball of rock called earth, not just the life on it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would argue that we've done the best with what we've been given.

In that we have vastly overpopulated the Earth and are now in the process off stripping it of all its natural resources and in some cases causing the extinction of other species all in the name of progress and profit. "

We are at once amazing and unbelievable in our belief that this world is OURS!

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