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"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age) "eh? | |||
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"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age)
eh?"I'll give you eh! lol I was thinking. Some of the young uns and old uns for that matter once they have a licence see it as a right o be ble to drive on the queens highway. Now i am not saying its wrong but others see it as a privelage to have a licence and have a different mind set.  | |||
"has the mrs taken your motor on you?" Well its more i was out earlier tody and a young herbert was tooting a grandad. The said erbert poped baseball capped head out of Corsa and shouted "Oi grandad you shouldn't be alowed on the road" It got me thinking should he!  | |||
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"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... " My. my....Agreed in part..."only part"!!! I hear you say?..... yes!!! in part my dear!,,,,,(well you wouldn't want it any other way.... would you!!!) I dont think its a privilege to drive a vehicle so much as its an earned concession granted to a person giving them the option to be able to drive a vehicle should they continually abide by the rules and laws of governance relating to the safe operation of such a vehicle which is truly the privilege. well thats how I see it,,, in my humble little opinion... that is !!!!!    | |||
"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... " I agree, Bro. (lol) And that would also cure that other problem that we have! I think there should be a limit to the number of testswe are allowed to take.. A friend of ours took 8 tests and passed, but she is a god awful driver and I don't think she has the aptitude to drive. Think of it this way. You get a job that involves some mechanical operation. If you can’t get the hang of that, you are either taken off the machine or if on a trial, told to go. Why do we allow people to take infinite tests, until all comes together just one time? Driving is a privilege and should be limited to those who have an aptitude for it! | |||
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"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... My. my....Agreed in part..."only part"!!! I hear you say?..... yes!!! in part my dear!,,,,,(well you wouldn't want it any other way.... would you!!!) I dont think its a privilege to drive a vehicle so much as its an earned concession granted to a person giving them the option to be able to drive a vehicle should they continually abide by the rules and laws of governance relating to the safe operation of such a vehicle which is truly the privilege. well thats how I see it,,, in my humble little opinion... that is !!!!! "Ooh!! Jeez munchkin .....a concession eh !!! ..granting a right ...is that right ...I mean what you mean`t ....bloody tricksy ain`t yer hahaha Erm...Jeez!! Well now ...yer could be onto something ....tho I do see a licence as a benefit gained .... There mightn`t be so much t`ween us ... Keeping me on my toes Soxy ?....good fer you haha | |||
"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... I agree, Bro. (lol) And that would also cure that other problem that we have! I think there should be a limit to the number of testswe are allowed to take.. A friend of ours took 8 tests and passed, but she is a god awful driver and I don't think she has the aptitude to drive. Think of it this way. You get a job that involves some mechanical operation. If you can’t get the hang of that, you are either taken off the machine or if on a trial, told to go. Why do we allow people to take infinite tests, until all comes together just one time? Driving is a privilege and should be limited to those who have an aptitude for it! "haha hello mucks ......Its a tough one ....I look at some of my neighbours or folks I know in the sticks...and they just about maintain an independence ....taking that licence away would radically alter their life .....But!!...we gota accept life on lifes terms and sometimes that means we can`t expect to do the things we once were capable of ... I work as a steel erector ...and trained to the hilt ...as I should be ..but any ticket or licence I hold is only valid fer a few years ...I gota retrain ...a regular pain in the arse ..and some may say a scam ...but my view is it keeps me and everyone safe ....and shows I`m competent.. Always seemed ludicrous to me, that peeps can drift into senility without comment ...thats harsh ...but true ... | |||
"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... I agree, Bro. (lol) And that would also cure that other problem that we have! I think there should be a limit to the number of testswe are allowed to take.. A friend of ours took 8 tests and passed, but she is a god awful driver and I don't think she has the aptitude to drive. Think of it this way. You get a job that involves some mechanical operation. If you can’t get the hang of that, you are either taken off the machine or if on a trial, told to go. Why do we allow people to take infinite tests, until all comes together just one time? Driving is a privilege and should be limited to those who have an aptitude for it!
haha hello mucks ......Its a tough one ....I look at some of my neighbours or folks I know in the sticks...and they just about maintain an independence ....taking that licence away would radically alter their life .....But!!...we gota accept life on lifes terms and sometimes that means we can`t expect to do the things we once were capable of ...
I work as a steel erector ...and trained to the hilt ...as I should be ..but any ticket or licence I hold is only valid fer a few years ...I gota retrain ...a regular pain in the arse ..and some may say a scam ...but my view is it keeps me and everyone safe ....and shows I`m competent..
Always seemed ludicrous to me, that peeps can drift into senility without comment ...thats harsh ...but true ..."Yes matey... Bit harsh to have to retest for anything on a regualr basis, but if you have to retrain on say a fork lift truck every three years, where you are doing that almost every day, how is it OK to drive a car once in a year on holiday and still retain a licence? (another friend!) Yes, it would be harsh, but perhaps it would make those same people keep their skills honed. Stay safe (Btw.. Mrs is asking if you are good with erections!  ) | |||
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" Yes matey... Bit harsh to have to retest for anything on a regualr basis, but if you have to retrain on say a fork lift truck every three years, where you are doing that almost every day, how is it OK to drive a car once in a year on holiday and still retain a licence? (another friend!) Yes, it would be harsh, but perhaps it would make those same people keep their skills honed. Stay safe (Btw.. Mrs is asking if you are good with erections! )"haha ...erm..There`s a local scaffolding firm roundabouts whose livery, asserts ...."for a better erection"...a most ignoble moniker ...but one that I firmly attest to tehe .... I`ve hands on experience with...said erections ......only my own tho ....that`d be a bridge to far .... Ok ok ....I`m going ...down the corny quip lane ....skips!! )))))..... | |||
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" ....skips!! )))))..... "Oi….. I think you're perhaps skipping a little too readily there my o'l mate...,,,,,, Skipping is more attune to us slightly camp Bi guys... so lay off the skipp'in right now .... or..... or..... I'll get weely-weely-qwoss and I’ll rip-up that copy of Steel Erections Monthly you loaned me,,,,, and ya don't wanna see me do that on a Tuesday...... | |||
"I see it as a priveledge...a licence should be granted to those that demonstrate the capability to drive!...And be grateful that you`re fit to have licence...life sure is different without the ability to drive and have that independence.. And we should sit retests.... My. my....Agreed in part..."only part"!!! I hear you say?..... yes!!! in part my dear!,,,,,(well you wouldn't want it any other way.... would you!!!) I dont think its a privilege to drive a vehicle so much as its an earned concession granted to a person giving them the option to be able to drive a vehicle should they continually abide by the rules and laws of governance relating to the safe operation of such a vehicle which is truly the privilege. well thats how I see it,,, in my humble little opinion... that is !!!!! "After a visit to my brown study ....I think you`ve a better take on it mucks ....an earned right fer the prospective driver ... Good work | |||
"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age) "Its a right if youve got a hot meet through Fab. Though can be a privilege on the way home! Oops!  | |||
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After a visit to my brown study ....I think you`ve a better take on it mucks ....an earned right fer the prospective driver ...
Good work "Awww shicks,,,,or shucks even!!!....see that? I even left a typo in...... Hey,,, no need to tell me how good I am.... I've got a mirror,,,,arf arf.... No seriously.... You have a Brown-Room?..... OMG..........we need to talk in private,,,about colours dear,,,, ..... ewwwww .... brown,,,,,how very last year | |||
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After a visit to my brown study ....I think you`ve a better take on it mucks ....an earned right fer the prospective driver ...
Good work
Awww shicks,,,,or shucks even!!!....see that? I even left a typo in......
Hey,,, no need to tell me how good I am.... I've got a mirror,,,,arf arf....
No seriously.... You have a Brown-Room?..... OMG..........we need to talk in private,,,about colours dear,,,, ..... ewwwww .... brown,,,,,how very last year "haha ...the spirit is blunt an instrument !! ..ah tis adorned with white heliotrope and shades o myrtle mucks .....a dish here and a dosh there ....rather avant garde I thought ...
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"Tempnbunk have to say i agree with your comments especially drink drivers, should be banned for ever, one chance you know the penalty,bye bye license, But what is it with this country,you ban a motorist who hasn't got a licence anyway,then they go and drive again and again, habitual offenders,what should we do with them, if you gave a life time ban they would ignore it and so do drink drivers who offend a second time,unfortunately any deterant is practically uninforcable, short of hanging lol." ohh hanging .... Never thot of that hmmmm that just might work lol | |||
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"Who said anything about God?! "i did. he speaks to me daily | |||
"Who said anything about God?!
i did. he speaks to me daily "Step away from the keyboard! | |||
"Who said anything about God?!
i did. he speaks to me daily
Step away from the keyboard!"Agreed! | |||
"A privalidge and as soon as some of these road hogs realize the better (not saying anyone here is) Im afraid i would have everyone resit a test every ten years, more banning for repeated offenses and life time ban 20 years in prison for drink driving. Due to medical reasons im unable to hold a driving license, maybe my opinion would change if i did but i see so many fucking idiots on the road i think i would be scared to drive anyway" +1 | |||
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"i wonder how many people who have had a licence for over 30years would do if they had to re take a test. " Fail most likely! | |||
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"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age) "apparently it is a general right even for those who have not taken a test, bought a car, paid road tax and insurance, if they can nick one. | |||
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"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age)
apparently it is a general right even for those who have not taken a test, bought a car, paid road tax and insurance, if they can nick one."Oh please... behave!!
It's not a general right. Everyone has the right to the opportunity to sit a test and drive legally. I'm fairly sure we're not discussing the eejits who break the law, or indeed that's not what I took from the OP, apologies if that's what was intended, I clearly read it wrong. | |||
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"Privilege. I'm a cyclist. Yesterday I was hit from behind whilst stationary in traffic. He tried to flee the scene (in rush hour London, kinda sums up his intelligence!), he then said I had reversed into him(wtf?) and that he hadnt stopped as I looked ok. Nothing broken, badly bruised and aware I was lucky in the extreme. He never apologised or asked if I was ok. Idiots like him should not be on our roads - end of. Drivers should face much harder punishments, resit after a ban, second ban = life. You have to be an idiot to get banned twice so what argument against that is there? Much harsher punishments for those that kill when d*unk or speeding. " Christ im really sorry, hope you are okay now "hugs" On another note though, ive been driving down the road and had a cyclist pull out of a turning without looking, and at a red light in town, a cyclist rides straight through it every day, yet i in a car would get a ticket, he wont, and i dread to think what would happen if a car was coming the other way and didnt see him until it was too late
Oh yes and im one of those drivers thats always considerate to cyclists and motorcyclists too | |||
"Privilege. I'm a cyclist. Yesterday I was hit from behind whilst stationary in traffic. He tried to flee the scene (in rush hour London, kinda sums up his intelligence!), he then said I had reversed into him(wtf?) and that he hadnt stopped as I looked ok. Nothing broken, badly bruised and aware I was lucky in the extreme. He never apologised or asked if I was ok. Idiots like him should not be on our roads - end of. Drivers should face much harder punishments, resit after a ban, second ban = life. You have to be an idiot to get banned twice so what argument against that is there? Much harsher punishments for those that kill when d*unk or speeding. " As a fellow cyclist i agree completely. Too many people out there using the roads with no understanding of how dangerous their actions are/can be to other road users. Hope you & your bike are ok - did you get his details? | |||
"everyone has a right to drive" Sorry but i disagree. Everyone has the right to take lessons & sit a driving test. If they pass the test they are awarded the privilege of driving a motor vehicle on public roads. That privilege is bound by rules, restrictions & regulations and can be rescinded at any time for breach of those rules and regulations. Rights cannot be curtailed, privileges can. | |||
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"Maybe we should follow the leads of several other countries and force all cyclists over the age of 16 to be insured to use the public highway? " I think you'll find that a lot of cyclists carry insurance as part of their household insurance, some carry specific insurance from clubs and/or membership of the ctc for example. Been brought up many times, not cost effective for the amount of damage caused/potentially caused by cycles when compared to the damage/potential damage from motor vehicles. Anyway, what has cycling to do with the 'right' or otherwise to drive a motor vehicle? | |||
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"Maybe we should follow the leads of several other countries and force all cyclists over the age of 16 to be insured to use the public highway? I think you'll find that a lot of cyclists carry insurance as part of their household insurance, some carry specific insurance from clubs and/or membership of the ctc for example. Been brought up many times, not cost effective for the amount of damage caused/potentially caused by cycles when compared to the damage/potential damage from motor vehicles. Anyway, what has cycling to do with the 'right' or otherwise to drive a motor vehicle?" I think you will find that you brought cycling up before I posted....unless I am mistaken. And cyclists do also cause accidents, hence the reason for them to be insured so that in the case of a cyclist being found liable for causing an accident the motorist can be paid out by the cyclists insurer. | |||
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"Maybe we should follow the leads of several other countries and force all cyclists over the age of 16 to be insured to use the public highway? I think you'll find that a lot of cyclists carry insurance as part of their household insurance, some carry specific insurance from clubs and/or membership of the ctc for example. Been brought up many times, not cost effective for the amount of damage caused/potentially caused by cycles when compared to the damage/potential damage from motor vehicles. Anyway, what has cycling to do with the 'right' or otherwise to drive a motor vehicle? I think you will find that you brought cycling up before I posted....unless I am mistaken. And cyclists do also cause accidents, hence the reason for them to be insured so that in the case of a cyclist being found liable for causing an accident the motorist can be paid out by the cyclists insurer." Actually, cycling was brought up by an earlier poster. It's been looked into many times by several Govts. Deemed not cost effective as a forced condition ala motor insurance. Insurance is always a good idea anyway, just not a practically-enforcable one. | |||
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"Do you view driving a vehicle as a privilege? or Is it your right just because you passed your driver's test at 17? (or whatever age)
apparently it is a general right even for those who have not taken a test, bought a car, paid road tax and insurance, if they can nick one.
Oh please... behave!!
It's not a general right. Everyone has the right to the opportunity to sit a test and drive legally. I'm fairly sure we're not discussing the eejits who break the law, or indeed that's not what I took from the OP, apologies if that's what was intended, I clearly read it wrong. "ooooooooooooooo get you | |||
"as a professinal driver I see it as a privelidge IT costs a lot of money to get your license, so unless you are a complete idiot you do everything in your power to keep that licence I passed my test aged 18, back in the 80s am now 44 and in that time, have had two speeding tickets, both fairly, i was last one was over 20 years ago and one parking ticket, that was recently as i misheard what the parking warden said to me as i pulled up, ddidnt argue it he was right. as for cyclists dont get me started, why do so mane for instance ignore red traffic lights, they do apply to you as well as motorised traffic you know " I'm a regular cyclist/commuter and i agree that cyclists are subject to the same rules as ALL other road users. However, i see at least 4 motorists a day jumping red lights on my commute. I decided to do a little test to see if the perceptions that 'cyclists jump red lights' etc. are valid. (Not particularly scientific i grant you) In the last two weeks as i have said, i have counted an average of 4 motorists a day jumping red lights - i have not counted amber even though this is still jumping a stop light. In that time i have not seen a single cyclist jump a red light. I have seen one cyclist trackstanding in the middle of a box junction which i found ridiculous but having said that, that particular box junction is daily blocked by motorists driving into the box and then stopping. I do not live & cycle in London however, i am led to believe that it is more common there. Cyclists are an easy target for those motorists who need a target on which to vent their frustrations regardless of the fact that many, many more motorists daily break the law than do cyclists. To date i have not yet seen one cyclist using a phone whilst riding on the road (or off for that matter) yet again, i daily see people talking and even texting whilst driving. Tonight i saw an abmbulance running blue lights & sirens held up from turning right at a junction because a car went through because the driver was texting. How do i know this? Because i - having heard the sirens & pulled over - watched the car come past me only 4 ft away as the driver held his phone in his lap and had his eyes down looking at it. These are the fools we all share the roads with but cyclists & pedestrians are more vulnerable to their actions. What will damage or write off your car and leave you with whiplash will seriously injure or even kill a pedestrian or cyclist. | |||
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