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"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " Sweetners... That's how I did it, took a while for me to work out how many and had to add milk to my usual black coffee but now I wouldn't have it any other way. | |||
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"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " Tea no sugar. | |||
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"Walking is not one of my strong points, I have chronic asthma and can't do too much, maybe a slow stroll on the other hand ? " its still exercise and it might help with the asthma | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she."  thanks, will have to ask her.
Doesn't stop the craving for an all milk (Blue of course) coffee before bed though, and with sugar too.
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I'm sure you'll do fine, though. There are plenty if good options for diabetics these days.
-Courtney | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " Any idea how you developed the condition? | |||
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"U need to go to ur GP xx" I have a hunch he's been already. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she. thanks, will have to ask her.
Doesn't stop the craving for an all milk (Blue of course) coffee before bed though, and with sugar too.
"I know Topsy's eating regime allows for cream in coffee, so it's not all bad. | |||
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"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! Any idea how you developed the condition?" Due to my lifestyle, never been one for the gym, and also because of my work, don't move around that much being a driver. | |||
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"U need to go to ur GP xx I have a hunch he's been already." It's how I found out today! Bloody doctor told me all what I should be doing, said it was all my own doing etc. Hate my doctor | |||
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 i never thought i would come off unpasteurised farm milky coffee with 4 sugars 
i am down to semi skimmed with no sugar now and ive tried my old one recently and left it  it was too sickly | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she. thanks, will have to ask her.
Doesn't stop the craving for an all milk (Blue of course) coffee before bed though, and with sugar too.
I know Topsy's eating regime allows for cream in coffee, so it's not all bad."Just done a search dor topsy and nothing found? | |||
"U need to go to ur GP xx I have a hunch he's been already. It's how I found out today! Bloody doctor told me all what I should be doing, said it was all my own doing etc. Hate my doctor" Why? He possibly saved your life.. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she. thanks, will have to ask her.
Doesn't stop the craving for an all milk (Blue of course) coffee before bed though, and with sugar too.
I know Topsy's eating regime allows for cream in coffee, so it's not all bad.
Just done a search dor topsy and nothing found? "Her profile is hidden at the moment. I've dropped her a message with a link to the thread. Hopefully she won't mind me bringing her into it. | |||
" i never thought i would come off unpasteurised farm milky coffee with 4 sugars
i am down to semi skimmed with no sugar now and ive tried my old one recently and left it it was too sickly "That's part of the problem, I love sickly sweet. The wife can't understand why im so slim still with all that sugar! | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! I suggest chatting to Topsy Rogers about it. She's type 2 and manages it with a permanent low carb lifestyle. She's done it for years. If anyone can point you towards useful resources, it is she. thanks, will have to ask her.
Doesn't stop the craving for an all milk (Blue of course) coffee before bed though, and with sugar too.
I know Topsy's eating regime allows for cream in coffee, so it's not all bad.
Just done a search dor topsy and nothing found?
Her profile is hidden at the moment. I've dropped her a message with a link to the thread.
Hopefully she won't mind me bringing her into it." | |||
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"Clem... I know what your saying, but he was sooo abrupt about it all, blaming me for my lifestyle etc. .. surely he should be a little more supporting? " Looking at my mother, I wish her doctors had been more abrupt. | |||
"U need to go to ur GP xx I have a hunch he's been already. It's how I found out today! Bloody doctor told me all what I should be doing, said it was all my own doing etc. Hate my doctor" Well your lifestyle kind of is your doing. You could ignore him but at best you'll die, and you run the risk of all sorts of health problems if you don't manage your blood sugar levels. A friend who has had unmanaged diabetes for many years recently had to have big sections of skin removed due to deep infected lesions which had caused severe blood poisoning. She was told unless she sorts her blood sugar out, it will keep happening. She also risks losing limbs. And she's also had to pay tens of thousands of pounds to have ALL her teeth removed and replaced with fakes because her gums receded so badly that her natural teeth fell out. The surgery she needed was extensive. If your doctor has given you a chance to avoid all this, you should be singing his praises. | |||
" i never thought i would come off unpasteurised farm milky coffee with 4 sugars
i am down to semi skimmed with no sugar now and ive tried my old one recently and left it it was too sickly
That's part of the problem, I love sickly sweet.
The wife can't understand why im so slim still with all that sugar! "As you've now found out, slim does not mean healthy. Diabetes is lethal and it can be a really nasty way to go. | |||
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"I agree, it should be a bit of a wake up call." I now feel crappy for falling off the sugar wagon. Still, tomorrow is another day and my resolve is strong again after this. | |||
"Clem... I know what your saying, but he was sooo abrupt about it all, blaming me for my lifestyle etc. .. surely he should be a little more supporting? " Who else could your Dr blame for your lifestyle? | |||
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" It's how I found out today! Bloody doctor told me all what I should be doing, said it was all my own doing etc. Hate my doctor" GPs are very busy, some are down to 4 min appointment times They are still dedicated professionals with a hard job and limited time.So hand holding and time consuming conversations are no longer possible but short, sweet and keeping to the facts, is how it has to be now  | |||
"Maybe it's just a shock for me today, it's a lot to take in, and being told NO MORE SUGAR is like telling me I will never be allowed to drive again. ... devastating. " You'll adjust. After a few months of low carb eating your tastes will change and you won't enjoy sweet stuff nearly as much. A lot of things will simply be too sweet. And you'll feel so much better that it will probably seem worth it. I'm trying to rein myself in here because I am a bit evangelical about the evils of sugar, but refined sugar is more or less a poison, and it's addictive as hell. It really is not the end of your life. It's the beginning of a new phase. It'll be difficult to start with but it's not as daunting as it seems to you at the moment. | |||
"Clem... I know what your saying, but he was sooo abrupt about it all, blaming me for my lifestyle etc. .. surely he should be a little more supporting? " Maybe he thought straight talking was the way forward, that you may respond better? | |||
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"Don't fret too much about the sugar reduction. It's a million times easier than giving up smoking. I'm amazed his much less I miss sugar after only 3 weeks but back. What will give you a shock is how much sugar there is in almost everything. " Exactly! I now have to look on packs of EVERYTHING to see if im allowed to eat it?? | |||
"It's my choice that I drive for a living, but im not like the usual suspect lorry drivers, big and fat, overweight and slobby. I am a size 32/34 waist, always thought in was quite healthy (well except for the asthma) and never thought the D word would get me " Driving for a living doesn't have to mean being inactive and it doesn't have to mean a poor, high sugar diet. Your doctor isn't pointing the finger at your profession. He's rightly pointing out that your lifestyle has caused this, (along, possibly, with some genetic predisposition, etc etc), and it's your lifestyle that's going to have to change to manage it. He clearly got the point across, so I'd say he's done his job. Would you have taken it so seriously if he'd gone the sympathetic, hand holding route? Would you not rather know exactly how it is and what you need to do? | |||
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"Don't fret too much about the sugar reduction. It's a million times easier than giving up smoking. I'm amazed his much less I miss sugar after only 3 weeks but back. What will give you a shock is how much sugar there is in almost everything. Exactly! I now have to look on packs of EVERYTHING to see if im allowed to eat it??" You'll soon start to learn what you can have and what you can't. You will have to adjust to avoiding a lot of processed and convenience food though. | |||
"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment "It'll all be alreet. | |||
"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment
It'll all be alreet. "^ he speaks the truth. | |||
"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment "It gets easier. It really does. | |||
"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment "I know it's a shock but you'll adjust, you just need time to take it all in. Research is the key, find out as much as you can & what help there is to be had | |||
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"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment "Cheer up old been. I have 30 bottles of soft drink to get rid of and an unopened Christmas cake and Angel Delight and sherbet flying saucers. | |||
"Clem... I know what your saying, but he was sooo abrupt about it all, blaming me for my lifestyle etc. .. surely he should be a little more supporting? " Your GP is a twat. It is not your fault at all. It is imperative you dump as many carbs as possible and replace them with steak, butter, cream, cheese, lard, ghee, chicken, lurk scratchings. You won't get fat. Ditch low fat anything. They add sugar to low fat stuff to make it palatable. Get on a low carb diabetes forum and read read read. T2 is NOT curable but it is controllable. If you don't have a blood glucose monitor, get one. I bet your doc has you on statins, anti hypertensives and metformin. He gets paid to do that and the chances are, you don't need them. It's imperative you know what your blood sugar levels are and you know the signs of high and low blood sugars. DON'T allow your doc to tell you how to run your diabetes, research the fuck out of it and take control. If you are on any medication that directly effects your blood sugars (metformin doesn't), you need to tell the DVLA. I'm all over the forum with stuff about diabetes, green arrow me. | |||
"Just feel like crying tonight though.... not a manly thing at all, but just soooo depressed at the moment
Cheer up old been. I have 30 bottles of soft drink to get rid of and an unopened Christmas cake and Angel Delight and sherbet flying saucers. "Tosser!!! Haha | |||
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"Oh and just so you know, diabetes will set you free, you just have to grab it by the balls and nail it." ^ Listen to her. She's the expert. | |||
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"Oh and just so you know, diabetes will set you free, you just have to grab it by the balls and nail it." All been a shock this evening, only found out at 6pm and don't know anything about it.... yet. Thanks topsy, may I message you tomorrow when I have had a sleep and feel better | |||
"Oh for the love of sugar! Sweeteners???? Yuk. Would rather go cold turkey "The Tesco own brand poppet style ones are very good & tbh it's hard to tell the difference. You can get half sugar, half Stevia in some stores but you would still be risking high intake of sugars. Look around, there's plenty of foodstuffs that can now be bought x | |||
"Checked it at 10pm and was 17.3
"Yep, that's high but it's probably been high for a while and you just didn't know. Message me tomorrow, I can't possibly tell you everything but I promise to guide you in the right direction. | |||
"Checked it at 10pm and was 17.3
Yep, that's high but it's probably been high for a while and you just didn't know. Message me tomorrow, I can't possibly tell you everything but I promise to guide you in the right direction."Thank you, times like this its good to have a supportive forum and advice | |||
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"Oh and just so you know, diabetes will set you free, you just have to grab it by the balls and nail it. ^ Listen to her. She's the expert." No disrespect to Topsy, but what she says can be of help to herself, but it isn't for everyone. Every person has their own individual circumstances. I'm T2 diabetic, take Metformin and other drugs and they work for me. My Diabetes is under control. When I was diagnosed back in 2004, my Doctor didn't believe it and sent in for a Second opinion! I find it is all a question of balance of food types, getting it right, alongside exercise, changes in lifestyle and so on. I gave up on a lot of sugary filled items, but occasionally will "treat" myself with something I shouldn't have! For anyone to say negative aspects about their GP, think again. If your GP has said a few home truths, they are doing so in your best interests. Diabetes can kill if not looked after; it affects virtually part of your body and makes you more susceptible to other illnesses and conditions. Get into the many support groups online, like Diabetes UK even if to get a load of views and support there. Most GP surgeries have Nurses whose job it is to help you or at least point you in the right direction. Look at your local NHS and support services there. To the OP, you have had a shock to your well being, but you can do it; the support is out there, but you have to do a bit of leg work yourself to find it all. It will work, believe me. Just have some faith in what people say. | |||
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"Oh and just so you know, diabetes will set you free, you just have to grab it by the balls and nail it. ^ Listen to her. She's the expert. No disrespect to Topsy, but what she says can be of help to herself, but it isn't for everyone. Every person has their own individual circumstances. I'm T2 diabetic, take Metformin and other drugs and they work for me. My Diabetes is under control. When I was diagnosed back in 2004, my Doctor didn't believe it and sent in for a Second opinion! I find it is all a question of balance of food types, getting it right, alongside exercise, changes in lifestyle and so on. I gave up on a lot of sugary filled items, but occasionally will "treat" myself with something I shouldn't have! For anyone to say negative aspects about their GP, think again. If your GP has said a few home truths, they are doing so in your best interests. Diabetes can kill if not looked after; it affects virtually part of your body and makes you more susceptible to other illnesses and conditions. Get into the many support groups online, like Diabetes UK even if to get a load of views and support there. Most GP surgeries have Nurses whose job it is to help you or at least point you in the right direction. Look at your local NHS and support services there. To the OP, you have had a shock to your well being, but you can do it; the support is out there, but you have to do a bit of leg work yourself to find it all. It will work, believe me. Just have some faith in what people say." And Topsy takes no medication at all and has blood sugar levels better than a lot of people who don't have diabetes. If you're happy taking drugs you don't need in order not to have to make the changes necessary to avoid them, that's fine, but it would be irresponsible not to let other T2s know that they may be able to manage their condition without drugs at all. Whether they choose to is up to them. Topsy's lifestyle change has had other major benefits too. So yes, everyone needs to make their own choices, but the fact is that a lot, maybe most, T2s need not take medication in order to manage their condition. Most doctors won't tell anyone that, and will actually, often, fight tooth and nail to discourage people from considering any other option but medication. It's personal choice how to balance the change of lifestyle with the potential effects of any medication. And, as Topsy said, there are financial incentives for GPs involved in certain prescribing decisions that they make. | |||
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"Im going to have to read all this again in the morning, sooo much to take in and too much advice to try and understand. I do appreciate it all everyone, just need to see what's the best way forward for me " I agree completely. As above, research it. I will take time to work out what's right for you. Don't trust your doctor's advice on treatment without doing your own research though. It's really not as disastrous as you think. | |||
"Oh and just so you know, diabetes will set you free, you just have to grab it by the balls and nail it. ^ Listen to her. She's the expert. No disrespect to Topsy, but what she says can be of help to herself, but it isn't for everyone. Every person has their own individual circumstances. I'm T2 diabetic, take Metformin and other drugs and they work for me. My Diabetes is under control. When I was diagnosed back in 2004, my Doctor didn't believe it and sent in for a Second opinion! I find it is all a question of balance of food types, getting it right, alongside exercise, changes in lifestyle and so on. I gave up on a lot of sugary filled items, but occasionally will "treat" myself with something I shouldn't have! For anyone to say negative aspects about their GP, think again. If your GP has said a few home truths, they are doing so in your best interests. Diabetes can kill if not looked after; it affects virtually part of your body and makes you more susceptible to other illnesses and conditions. Get into the many support groups online, like Diabetes UK even if to get a load of views and support there. Most GP surgeries have Nurses whose job it is to help you or at least point you in the right direction. Look at your local NHS and support services there. To the OP, you have had a shock to your well being, but you can do it; the support is out there, but you have to do a bit of leg work yourself to find it all. It will work, believe me. Just have some faith in what people say. And Topsy takes no medication at all and has blood sugar levels better than a lot of people who don't have diabetes. If you're happy taking drugs you don't need in order not to have to make the changes necessary to avoid them, that's fine, but it would be irresponsible not to let other T2s know that they may be able to manage their condition without drugs at all. Whether they choose to is up to them. Topsy's lifestyle change has had other major benefits too. So yes, everyone needs to make their own choices, but the fact is that a lot, maybe most, T2s need not take medication in order to manage their condition. Most doctors won't tell anyone that, and will actually, often, fight tooth and nail to discourage people from considering any other option but medication. It's personal choice how to balance the change of lifestyle with the potential effects of any medication. And, as Topsy said, there are financial incentives for GPs involved in certain prescribing decisions that they make." I can agree with what you say on her behalf, but surely at this stage, what she has to say to the OP, COULD be of benefit, but as she is not his GP and doesn't know his specific medical condition, specific health history and possible other underlying medical issues, then surely it could be counter productive to suggest the OP should be doing what she suggests? It is up to the OP to listen to his GP and the medical and online support services and groups at his disposal as well as taking in the advice and support from others and make a balanced decision from thereon. | |||
"I can agree with what you say on her behalf, but surely at this stage, what she has to say to the OP, COULD be of benefit, but as she is not his GP and doesn't know his specific medical condition, specific health history and possible other underlying medical issues, then surely it could be counter productive to suggest the OP should be doing what she suggests? It is up to the OP to listen to his GP and the medical and online support services and groups at his disposal as well as taking in the advice and support from others and make a balanced decision from thereon" Sorry, that I can't agree with. Doctors very often do not give good advice on diabetes treatment and very often their decisions are influenced by financial incentives as well as narrow-mindedness, bull-headedness and ignorance. Independent research is the way to go. By all means listen to the GP, but never take their advice as gospel without researching it thoroughly. Topsy's GP's advice was bullshit. She did her own research and manages her own treatment, medication free. GPs are great at diagnosing diabetes but very few are particularly great when it comes to treating it. | |||
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"I can agree with what you say on her behalf, but surely at this stage, what she has to say to the OP, COULD be of benefit, but as she is not his GP and doesn't know his specific medical condition, specific health history and possible other underlying medical issues, then surely it could be counter productive to suggest the OP should be doing what she suggests? It is up to the OP to listen to his GP and the medical and online support services and groups at his disposal as well as taking in the advice and support from others and make a balanced decision from thereon Sorry, that I can't agree with. Doctors very often do not give good advice on diabetes treatment and very often their decisions are influenced by financial incentives as well as narrow-mindedness, bull-headedness and ignorance. Independent research is the way to go. By all means listen to the GP, but never take their advice as gospel without researching it thoroughly. Topsy's GP's advice was bullshit. She did her own research and manages her own treatment, medication free. GPs are great at diagnosing diabetes but very few are particularly great when it comes to treating it." So, we have to listen to "Dr Topsy", have we? Is Topsy a major medical Professional, a renowned expert in her field? Yes, medicine can get it wrong; one can look at all the research from all sides but it comes down to the individual's own decision as to what route to take. But for someone to come on here, like yourself, and say earlier on, to listen to Topsy, as she's an expert, is a bit strong. It suits her in what she has discovered with her condition and how she controls it day to day. But it isn't Gospel that what she says is of absolute benefit for her, isn't or might NOT be for the OP or for anyone else for that matter. | |||
"Metformin may be very useful for getting the condition under control initially, but diet and exercise are the best way to manage it longterm, and can reverse pretty severe insulin resistance. There are also some cheat products out there to help with management - I could not cope without some Atkins products, or would hate to try." I meant to say diet and exercise are the backbone of good management, or should be. But I am pretty sure there are some diabetics who need medication aswell. | |||
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"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! Any idea how you developed the condition?" | |||
"I can agree with what you say on her behalf, but surely at this stage, what she has to say to the OP, COULD be of benefit, but as she is not his GP and doesn't know his specific medical condition, specific health history and possible other underlying medical issues, then surely it could be counter productive to suggest the OP should be doing what she suggests? It is up to the OP to listen to his GP and the medical and online support services and groups at his disposal as well as taking in the advice and support from others and make a balanced decision from thereon Sorry, that I can't agree with. Doctors very often do not give good advice on diabetes treatment and very often their decisions are influenced by financial incentives as well as narrow-mindedness, bull-headedness and ignorance. Independent research is the way to go. By all means listen to the GP, but never take their advice as gospel without researching it thoroughly. Topsy's GP's advice was bullshit. She did her own research and manages her own treatment, medication free. GPs are great at diagnosing diabetes but very few are particularly great when it comes to treating it." Absolutely right , well said | |||
"I can agree with what you say on her behalf, but surely at this stage, what she has to say to the OP, COULD be of benefit, but as she is not his GP and doesn't know his specific medical condition, specific health history and possible other underlying medical issues, then surely it could be counter productive to suggest the OP should be doing what she suggests? It is up to the OP to listen to his GP and the medical and online support services and groups at his disposal as well as taking in the advice and support from others and make a balanced decision from thereon Sorry, that I can't agree with. Doctors very often do not give good advice on diabetes treatment and very often their decisions are influenced by financial incentives as well as narrow-mindedness, bull-headedness and ignorance. Independent research is the way to go. By all means listen to the GP, but never take their advice as gospel without researching it thoroughly. Topsy's GP's advice was bullshit. She did her own research and manages her own treatment, medication free. GPs are great at diagnosing diabetes but very few are particularly great when it comes to treating it. So, we have to listen to "Dr Topsy", have we? Is Topsy a major medical Professional, a renowned expert in her field? Yes, medicine can get it wrong; one can look at all the research from all sides but it comes down to the individual's own decision as to what route to take. But for someone to come on here, like yourself, and say earlier on, to listen to Topsy, as she's an expert, is a bit strong. It suits her in what she has discovered with her condition and how she controls it day to day. But it isn't Gospel that what she says is of absolute benefit for her, isn't or might NOT be for the OP or for anyone else for that matter. " The point is, Topsy has given only very basic advice to the OP, she's NOT told him what to do. She's researched diabetes over many years now and yes, is an expert on it; far more so than most GPs who are expected to be able to diagnose and treat a huge range or conditions and are rarely an expert on more than one or two. She'll point the OP in the right direction to do his own research, which is exactly what he needs to decide what's best for him. Simply telling him his GP knows best and to blindly follow that is ridiculous and unhealthy advice. If *you* want to blindly follow the advice of a GP and take medication you may not need because it works, that's your call. Telling other people to just do what their doctor advises is very bad advice. The chances are the doctor is giving very poor advice, for one or more of the reasons I have already mentioned. It's not necessary to be medically qualified to be completely up-to-date on research on a condition. Being a doctor does not necessarily make a person better informed than someone not medically qualified. And, incidentally, do you happen to know for a fact Topsy *isn't* a doctor, or medically qualified? You seem to be fairly sure of your assumption. Still, if you want to carry on tossing medication you may not need down your throat, go right ahead, but please don't try to tell the OP he should do that, if it's what his GP advises. His GP could well tell him crap. | |||
"Metformin may be very useful for getting the condition under control initially, but diet and exercise are the best way to manage it longterm, and can reverse pretty severe insulin resistance. There are also some cheat products out there to help with management - I could not cope without some Atkins products, or would hate to try. I meant to say diet and exercise are the backbone of good management, or should be. But I am pretty sure there are some diabetics who need medication aswell." There are, but doctors do tend to try to tell all diabetics they need medication when it simply isn't true. A lot of people blindly believe what their GP says and don't realise there are other ways. | |||
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"Clem... I know what your saying, but he was sooo abrupt about it all, blaming me for my lifestyle etc. .. surely he should be a little more supporting? Who else could your Dr blame for your lifestyle?" And he probably felt he had to " shock" you: I know several GPS and they say it is so difficult to get people to accept low sugar; they just say " yeah,yeah" and don't do anything about it; brutal is often the only way. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " Just keep in mind that YOU DON'T WANT TO DIE? | |||
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"Oh for the love of sugar! Sweeteners???? Yuk. Would rather go cold turkey "Well try the cold turkey but honestly sweetners are ok....you can get more natural ones now. Try a few and then cut them down slowly to end up suger/sweetner free in the end. Good luck  | |||
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"Metformin may be very useful for getting the condition under control initially, but diet and exercise are the best way to manage it longterm, and can reverse pretty severe insulin resistance. There are also some cheat products out there to help with management - I could not cope without some Atkins products, or would hate to try. I meant to say diet and exercise are the backbone of good management, or should be. But I am pretty sure there are some diabetics who need medication aswell. There are, but doctors do tend to try to tell all diabetics they need medication when it simply isn't true. A lot of people blindly believe what their GP says and don't realise there are other ways." No argument there. We only use metformin for the worst cases in horses, but it does help get them under control, some we just ue it short term 'til the other ducks are in a row. | |||
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I could add a little perspective if you feel you need it. On the plus side, whilst it's a shock to the system, it is entirely treatable. Not everyone is so lucky. I understand that at the moment you perhaps don't care about what other people are going through, that's a perfectly natural reaction but you are alive and can be in control of the disease. It's within the realms of possibility for you to learn to manage it. | |||
"Well I now know why I needed the bloody glasses too! Please everyone, there's no need to argue over what topsy has said, I have been back to the nurse this morning and had my levels checked, at 11am they were 13.6 which is still high, and I am now on metformin? Tablets to try and bring the levels down. I eat healthy, not often junk food but good steaks and jacket potatoes, not fried stuff... ok I like my bacon! This is completely new to me, last night was a wake up call to what I have been doing to my body over the years, not enough sleep, too much work and not enough exercise, but that's all going to change from today! Time to think about ME for a change and not worry about others. Thanks again EVERYONE for your advise, it truly is appreciated. " Metformin will not directly affect your levels, it only reduces your average levels by about one point. The biggest thing will be your diet. Dump all carbs, eat steak, bacon, butter, cheese and eggs (amongst other gorgeous things) eat 'clean' there is nothing manufactured you need to eat. Good fats, protein, green veg, dairy, nuts and a bit of fruit. Check out bulletproof coffee, Taubes, Banting, Weston Price, and the low carb cooking sites (amongst other things  )
The levels you are getting my indicate you have T1 and you may want to insist they test you for it.
I say again, nothing you did caused your diabetes, the meeja have a lot of shit to answer for.
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"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " Without meaning to be rude i'm not really surprised you've given yourself diabetes if these are regular sweet treats! If you'd rather not swap sweetener for sugar just go cold turkey like you said yourself. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! Without meaning to be rude i'm not really surprised you've given yourself diabetes if these are regular sweet treats! If you'd rather not swap sweetener for sugar just go cold turkey like you said yourself. " FFS eating sugar does not give you diabetes. Stop falling for media brainwashing. | |||
"Oh for the love of sugar! Sweeteners???? Yuk. Would rather go cold turkey "Was going to say cold turkey. It does work. | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! Without meaning to be rude i'm not really surprised you've given yourself diabetes if these are regular sweet treats! If you'd rather not swap sweetener for sugar just go cold turkey like you said yourself. FFS eating sugar does not give you diabetes. Stop falling for media brainwashing." What does then? | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! " nothing tastes the same but I've cut sugar and salt as an additive out of my diet we naturally produce glucose we don't need it and in your case you have no choice diabetes can be a debilitating illness ,it might be hard but worth it  | |||
"I have found out today that I am type 2 diabetic, now this has really pissed me off as I am a sugar freak! McDonald's lattee 6 sugars, tea with 3 and coffee at home with carnation condensed milk and also 3 sugars. How the bloody hell am I going to cut it all out? HELP!! Without meaning to be rude i'm not really surprised you've given yourself diabetes if these are regular sweet treats! If you'd rather not swap sweetener for sugar just go cold turkey like you said yourself. FFS eating sugar does not give you diabetes." It certainly can Topsy!!! | |||
