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Swinging and religion...

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Most of the swingers we've met are athiests, and the liberated lifestyle that we all love seems to be incompatible with the major organised religions. But there are religious swingers, it seems. Hypocrites? Or can swinging be reconciled with a belief in a supernatural despot who gives a fuck about who we fuck?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think there are more people on here who are concerned with their family, friends and colleagues knowing about their liberated lifestyle than there are of religious people being concerned as to how it affects their faith.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

Likewise, towards the non-faithful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want."

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

Likewise, towards the non-faithful."

True but I do agree that it does not sit well with Christian theology. That is not a criticism. It just seems to be against the usual preaching.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

Likewise, towards the non-faithful.

True but I do agree that it does not sit well with Christian theology. That is not a criticism. It just seems to be against the usual preaching. "

Not preaching, against Catechism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Churchgoing Anglican here. My religion doesn't affect my swinging life in the slightest.

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By *ickawitchCouple over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

Pagan here and the swinging lifestyle fits in very well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

What about Love thy neigbour and all that?

Being a happy swinger would be better than a miserable vanilla.

And any God should want that

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy."

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy."

Cool. Your God is nice. Is that the Christian deity?

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

I don't believe that any higher power/God would be fussed about consenting adults sleeping with consenting adults.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief. "

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pagan here and the swinging lifestyle fits in very well

Pagan too but I don't let religion stand in the way of having fun anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings."

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Interesting replies. I mean, the koran validates paedophilia - Mohamed's second wife was six and he was over fifty, but if you read the Old Testament it's pretty clear what Jahweh thinks of fornication - although He doesn't appear to disapprove of what Lot does to his daughters after He's turned lot's wife into a sodium chloride sculpture (Hint: That didn't really happen!) but in the New Testament Jesus doesn't have a lot to say about marriage and does have a lot to say about about how shit families are. But what we're talking about here isn't texts, but rather the interpretations of texts. And their enforcement by people in power.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

Likewise, towards the non-faithful.

True but I do agree that it does not sit well with Christian theology. That is not a criticism. It just seems to be against the usual preaching.

Not preaching, against Catechism. "

That's why I love being Pagan.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Religion is man made ! To control the masses ...... And has caused the death of millions .

God has no religion ! God is love !

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

We are all sinners in this world, concentrate on your own hang ups and let others live their own lives as they see fit. We all have our own belief system, concentrate on what affects you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As the good vicar would say: "Who gives a fuck?"

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

last time I checked. .I don't remember religion being to cool with homosexuality...and it probably sees bisexuality in the same light...repent or burn. ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*waits for the inevitable irrelevant *~*~fUcK aLl Religion! !1!1!~*~* posts*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"last time I checked. .I don't remember religion being to cool with homosexuality...and it probably sees bisexuality in the same light...repent or burn. .."

Some religions are okay with homosexuality, some aren't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*waits for the inevitable irrelevant *~*~fUcK aLl Religion! !1!1!~*~* posts*

like a religious orgy?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*waits for the inevitable irrelevant *~*~fUcK aLl Religion! !1!1!~*~* posts*

like a religious orgy?"

It's a niche market but hey, I'm game

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia."

Really? 1Corinthians and Galatians has lots on fucking other people being wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*waits for the inevitable irrelevant *~*~fUcK aLl Religion! !1!1!~*~* posts*

like a religious orgy?

It's a niche market but hey, I'm game

sounds like heaven..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

GOD is a DJ!

He fits very well

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Religion is man made ! To control the masses ...... And has caused the death of millions .

God has no religion ! God is love ! "

It seems pretty clear that religion is man-made, but I'm troubled by your 'God is love' statement? I mean, there's precisely no evidence for the existence of a god, but the same is true of 'love'. Aren't you just saying that nothings equals nothing? What people call 'love' is - like everything else that can be described in a meaningful fashion - better described as a an electro-biochemical response that occurs in the brains of sentient beings, no?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Open Youtube. Search Jim Jeffries - God at a party.

But on a serious note, we're both atheists. The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality and sex in general so I don't see how Christianity and swinging can marry up really. Though to be honest, religious people all cherry pick the parts of their chosen religious text which fit into their own lifestyle choices. I mean, the Bible is totally cool with slavery, genocide and rape but the majority of modern Christians won't be. Having said that, as long as I'm not being judged or preached to I don't mind what anyone chooses to believe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Religion is man made ! To control the masses ...... And has caused the death of millions .

God has no religion ! God is love !

Philosophies and emotions can exist, even if they're not physical. Lots of stuff exists even though it's not been witnessed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef."

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

science is religion for the confused

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

I've Googled Paganism, count me in

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia."

That's a bold accusation, my friend. The prophet Mohammed - according to a text allegedly written by an illiterate peasant - liked unhealthily-young wives. I suppose you'd also argue that Islam - or any other made-up bullshit creation myth - is a religion of peace?

I am too evolved to be anything-phobic. I do rational analysis.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused"

So says a confused person!

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By *ickawitchCouple over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

"I've Googled Paganism, count me in

You will be most welcome I am sure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality"

Actually it's not. Your are ignoring hierarchy / priority. Firstly, anything in the first half is a write off because it's the 'old covenant' which is superceded by the 'new covenant' - clue is in the name. So there goes leviticus. Jesus (top of the hierarchy) has very little to say on the subject, which should be a bit of a red flag if it's all that important. The rest all comes from Paul who ranks lower than others (e.g Peter) and frankly could use a good lesson in humility. For someone who condoned murder, he definately has a lot to say about other people's sins...

Don't take my word for it, talk to a priest if you're all that interest (i.e the people who train for 7 years to get the proper interpretation and context of these events, that the intuitive face value meaning)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused

So says a confused person!"

Indeed. Do you have all the answers?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused"

Science is just a method of doing something and a very good one at that. Scientists are humans who are every bit as flawed as the human administering religion...

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By *VineMan over a year ago

The right place

Believe it or not I used to lead a church. Call me pastor Vine! My faith is still present but quite different to what it used to be. I would describe myself as a Christian mystic now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Open Youtube. Search Jim Jeffries - God at a party.

I'd go along with that so long as no-one who believes in primitive supernatural explanations of the universe ever gets the opportunity to legislate for me.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

Really? 1Corinthians and Galatians has lots on fucking other people being wrong. "

Yeah, but I'm not having sex outside of marriage.

And the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit pre-marital sex.

People's interpretation of religious texts have a lot to answer for stereotypes of religion. Lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen. "

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused

Science is just a method of doing something and a very good one at that. Scientists are humans who are every bit as flawed as the human administering religion... "

It's just a way for people to figure shit out with each other.

Religion is kind of the same.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

Really? 1Corinthians and Galatians has lots on fucking other people being wrong.

Yeah, but I'm not having sex outside of marriage.

And the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit pre-marital sex.

People's interpretation of religious texts have a lot to answer for stereotypes of religion. Lol. "

You said you'd fuck a married person before, that's committing extra marital sex too. Thessalonians talks about pre marital sex, a few other books do too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits."

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused

Science is just a method of doing something and a very good one at that. Scientists are humans who are every bit as flawed as the human administering religion... "

Absolutely agree. And often it's the case that the judgement of 'scientists' is skewed by financial considerations. But that argument does no violence at all to the scientific method which - on all questions - gives better answers than any ideology which finds its root and origins in the screaming, fearful and ignorant beginning of our species.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

Mrs Bendy doesn't care what they believe as long as they DO ram it down her throat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy. "

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

I am too evolved to be anything-phobic. I do rational analysis.

It's not bold, it's educated.

The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age.

Your "rational analysis" obviously doesn't need you to be fully informed, only partially, and in pretty fundamentally flawed ways.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused

Science is just a method of doing something and a very good one at that. Scientists are humans who are every bit as flawed as the human administering religion...

'ignorant beginning' - pertinent words.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

Really? 1Corinthians and Galatians has lots on fucking other people being wrong.

Yeah, but I'm not having sex outside of marriage.

And the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit pre-marital sex.

People's interpretation of religious texts have a lot to answer for stereotypes of religion. Lol.

You said you'd fuck a married person before, that's committing extra marital sex too. Thessalonians talks about pre marital sex, a few other books do too. "

Thessalonians (and the other books) only talks about "sexual immorality". Which isn't premarital sex.

And yes, I would. But I'm not the one who is married. I'm not going against biblical teachings.

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By *eavenscentitCouple over a year ago

barnstaple

I was a church going catholic for many years. Now I am spiritual, treat people with respect, and enjoy life doing lovely things with like minded people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef."

To me the essence of Christianity is believing in a Christian God, and believing that Jesus came to save us. The rest of it is variable, depending on your flavour of Christianity.

You are welcome to disagree, but you don't exactly sound like you're an authority.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"science is religion for the confused

Science is just a method of doing something and a very good one at that. Scientists are humans who are every bit as flawed as the human administering religion...

Just stop at ideology and I agree with you. Science solves practical problems, it's brilliant at telling us the way the world is. Religion doesn't give two shits about how the world is, it's about how the world should be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

Really? 1Corinthians and Galatians has lots on fucking other people being wrong.

Yeah, but I'm not having sex outside of marriage.

And the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit pre-marital sex.

People's interpretation of religious texts have a lot to answer for stereotypes of religion. Lol.

You said you'd fuck a married person before, that's committing extra marital sex too. Thessalonians talks about pre marital sex, a few other books do too.

Thessalonians (and the other books) only talks about "sexual immorality". Which isn't premarital sex.

And yes, I would. But I'm not the one who is married. I'm not going against biblical teachings. "

Extra marital sex is having sex outside of marriage, you're party to that by definition. Sexual immorality IS premarital sex, it says to abstain until joined in sanctity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted? "

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't care what they believe as long as they don't ram it down my throat

True but can the non believers also take that stance please? They seem to want pour scorn on others ideas and concept and almost make it a personal vendetta. Follow your beliefs and respect other's.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

To me the essence of Christianity is believing in a Christian God, and believing that Jesus came to save us. The rest of it is variable, depending on your flavour of Christianity.

You are welcome to disagree, but you don't exactly sound like you're an authority."

Eh, you can say that but I do know about Christianity.

I'm not saying your life style is wrong, I just don't think you're a Christian due to your actions. It's bizarre to claim Christianity when it's so unnecessary.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging..."

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

To me the essence of Christianity is believing in a Christian God, and believing that Jesus came to save us. The rest of it is variable, depending on your flavour of Christianity.

You are welcome to disagree, but you don't exactly sound like you're an authority."

Exactly. If you are Christian you believe Jesus was God, he died and was resurrected. You also believe in the Gospels.

There's fuck all about gays or swinging in the Gospels, I mean it's almost like Jesus had bigger issues on his mind...

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"Extra marital sex is having sex outside of marriage, you're party to that by definition. Sexual immorality IS premarital sex, it says to abstain until joined in sanctity. "

No, it's not. It's how people interpret it, but "sexual immorality" can mean a lot of things. Lol.

And see, that's great that you think that, but I differ in my faith, and the great thing about Christianity is that everyone's relationship with their god is different and unique!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie. "

What's a lie?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

What's a lie? "

Claiming to be a law abiding citizen when you break laws knowingly.

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By *VineMan over a year ago

The right place

The golden rule.

Love God and love your neighbour as yourself.

That's the only important thing.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Yes I am a Christian. Yes I have sex outside of wedlock. Yes I am aware that this pretty much makes me a sinner. But my morality is my morality and I see my faith as a moral guideline And compass as opposed to a strict set of rules.

Christianity is as much about tolerance, understanding, acceptance, forgiveness, charity and compassion as it is about God and Jesus.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef."

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Just because someone is religious, doesn't mean they have to conform to the same beliefs as everyone else. Comparing a persons entire believe system to whether or not a person eats meat is like saying you can't be gay if you like cheese. It's completely unconnected.

Part of the reason I don't like organised religion is because some people think that everyone should have the same belief as them and I think that goes against the acceptance that religion is supposedly about.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"Eh, you can say that but I do know about Christianity.

I'm not saying your life style is wrong, I just don't think you're a Christian due to your actions. It's bizarre to claim Christianity when it's so unnecessary. "

And we all know that you're only a Christian when someone else defines you as being one, folks!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

What's a lie?

Claiming to be a law abiding citizen when you break laws knowingly. "

OK so are you a crinimal or have you never broken the speed limit?

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age."

So about 12 or 13?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm Christian, and I've yet to come across anything that tells me what I'm doing is wrong. *shrug*

And all that stuff about the Quran is also pretty narrow-minded Islamophobic bs. I studied the Quran for a couple years and it in no way promotes paedophilia.

I am too evolved to be anything-phobic. I do rational analysis.

It's not bold, it's educated.

The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age.

Your "rational analysis" obviously doesn't need you to be fully informed, only partially, and in pretty fundamentally flawed ways. "

Educated=Being Told What to Think...

So he waited till they were old enough to fuck until he fucked them after grooming them. Are you for real?

But wait?

Do you actually believe that this happened, or are you just analysing fairy-tales for fun and amusement?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Extra marital sex is having sex outside of marriage, you're party to that by definition. Sexual immorality IS premarital sex, it says to abstain until joined in sanctity.

No, it's not. It's how people interpret it, but "sexual immorality" can mean a lot of things. Lol.

And see, that's great that you think that, but I differ in my faith, and the great thing about Christianity is that everyone's relationship with their god is different and unique!

Perhaps when a single word is taken out of the context of the entire quote it can change interpretation, however it's extremely clear when read in full.

I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age.

So about 12 or 13?

Well, I wouldn't consider that to be child bearing age myself, and the Quran doesn't specify an age. So it's difficult to know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

What's a lie?

Claiming to be a law abiding citizen when you break laws knowingly.

OK so are you a crinimal or have you never broken the speed limit? "

I've never broken the speed limit, but that doesn't mean I abide every law

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The golden rule.

Love God and love your neighbour as yourself.

That's the only important thing.

What happens to those who don't 'believe' in any of those things?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most of the swingers we've met are athiests, and the liberated lifestyle that we all love seems to be incompatible with the major organised religions. But there are religious swingers, it seems. Hypocrites? Or can swinging be reconciled with a belief in a supernatural despot who gives a fuck about who we fuck?

"
most religions I've had the pleasure of attempted indoctrination to frown upon sex outside of marriage

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

What's a lie?

Claiming to be a law abiding citizen when you break laws knowingly.

OK so are you a crinimal or have you never broken the speed limit?

I've never broken the speed limit, "

Either you don't drive or that's a lie

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Incidentally, isn't it the case that the Real Golden Rule is that those who have the gold make the rules for others???

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

" The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality

Just for curiosity could you quote the chapter and verse where xtians are informed to disregard the first covenant . Because I can quote the new testament line and verse where Mr christ explicitly refutes your statement ?

I think it's great that good humans who want to hope a creator exists can ignore the judgmental bigotry that Christianity is associated with . I do think it dishonest for some to blankly deny that biblical teaching across its 100 or so split sects does not often covey a moral message that many of said followers would find contrary to the fab lifestyle

It does seem to the extreme end that even I an atheist could claim to be a xtian as I'm an advocate of peace, love, and agree with maybe a few of the mythical Christ's parables

So my new sect is the non theistic caring christian sect xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having consulted the 21st century deity of Google, here's how to start your own religion:

1. Create your own scripture. ...

2. Create or affirm your own rituals. ..

3. Realize that in religion, nothing is just something. ...

4. Remember, you are the founder, the prophet of your own religion, but not its God. ...

5. There's nothing wrong with borrowing. ...

6. Happy Birthday!

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

" Educated=Being Told What to Think...

So he waited till they were old enough to fuck until he fucked them after grooming them. Are you for real?

But wait?

Do you actually believe that this happened, or are you just analysing fairy-tales for fun and amusement?"

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Wait, I studied this historical text for two years, and you come out with "THE QURAN PROMOTES PAEDOPHILIA GUYS!" and I'M the one that's being told what to think?! LMFAO.

It's not about what I believe "happened" or not. It's about analysis of what the text actually says, rather than what Islamaphobes have claimed the text says.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My religion and my beliefs and my partners if you look at the true meaning teach us to be decent people first and foremost.

If you ask me priests , gurus , immams are no different from politicians they are in it for their own gain.

Love God from your heart and God will love you back no matter what form or belief system God is in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines.

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By *VineMan over a year ago

The right place

"The golden rule.

Love God and love your neighbour as yourself.

That's the only important thing.

What happens to those who don't 'believe' in any of those things?"

I don't know what happens after death. I don't think Jesus had a lot to say about it either. He did have quite a lot to say about life before death. And the golden rule is a pretty good way to live. But others are free to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

surely it's between the individual and their own god? if they're happy that their religion sits well with a sexually open lifestyle then i'm not gonna tell them what's right and wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines. "

How do you know you're being good?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality

It does seem to the extreme end that even I an atheist could claim to be a xtian as I'm an advocate of peace, love, and agree with maybe a few of the mythical Christ's parables

So my new sect is the non theistic caring christian sect xx"

Can I be arsed to go get a bible and quote it for you? No.

As I said, it's called the new covenant for a reason and it's part of the same reason Christians eat pork and don't get their foreskin snipped.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines. "

So I can't believe in God because I'm bisexual, divorced, had sex before marriage and enjoy multiple partners?

Alrighty then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

Your black and white viewpoint is as logically flawed as saying that anyone who drives over 70mph on the motorway is a criminal who cannot possibly be considered a law abiding citizen.

No it's not, there's literally nothing that encourages swinging or homosexuality in the Bible. You also can't go believing in any Hindu Gods either, or Norse Gods. It's just part of Christianity.

It's odd to suggest "my Christian God supports me" when it's against the religion's belief system. Choose a religion that fits.

See my reply to Lynn above about priority and hierarchy.

Prioritising is unnecessary when religion is a choice, right? Why choose to identify as part of a religion and do it half hearted?

Again, why identify as a law abiding citizen if you might be 77mph once in a while? Because getting speeding tickets ranks lower than murdering someone. Funnily enough, so does swinging...

But I wouldn't do that either. It's a lie.

What's a lie?

Claiming to be a law abiding citizen when you break laws knowingly.

OK so are you a crinimal or have you never broken the speed limit?

I've never broken the speed limit,

Either you don't drive or that's a lie

I don't currently drive and it's not a lie. Not everyone drives irresponsibly, I was just overly careful behind the wheel for personal reasons.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"Extra marital sex is having sex outside of marriage, you're party to that by definition. Sexual immorality IS premarital sex, it says to abstain until joined in sanctity.

No, it's not. It's how people interpret it, but "sexual immorality" can mean a lot of things. Lol.

And see, that's great that you think that, but I differ in my faith, and the great thing about Christianity is that everyone's relationship with their god is different and unique!

Perhaps when a single word is taken out of the context of the entire quote it can change interpretation, however it's extremely clear when read in full.

I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre. "

OK, and that might be your interpretation. And that's cool.

It's not mine.

And I call myself a Christian because it's what my god calls me to do.

But I can see that you believe I should take your opinion on whether I'm a Christian or not much more seriously than his voice. Lol.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"surely it's between the individual and their own god? if they're happy that their religion sits well with a sexually open lifestyle then i'm not gonna tell them what's right and wrong.

Then you're a lot more understanding than some of the people here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines.

So I can't believe in God because I'm bisexual, divorced, had sex before marriage and enjoy multiple partners?

Alrighty then "

You can believe in a God, but you're not living as a Christian. Why would you WANT to identify as a Christian but still maintain a lifestyle that is against Christianity? Either commit to the religion or don't bother.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre. "

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"surely it's between the individual and their own god? if they're happy that their religion sits well with a sexually open lifestyle then i'm not gonna tell them what's right and wrong.

Then you're a lot more understanding than some of the people here.

What I believe and the religon I follow is personal and within me their are lot more people that are far more religious than me that have done far worst things.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol"

They are, to all intents and purposes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol"

Well no, you can be forgiven for past acts, but what's the point if you continually go against Christianity? It's farcical.

However I'm sure you openly confess everything to your priest and don't keep secrets or lie

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines.

So I can't believe in God because I'm bisexual, divorced, had sex before marriage and enjoy multiple partners?

Alrighty then

I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

They are, to all intents and purposes."

Not my church.

Must be all the fake Christians filling it up. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OMG OMG OMG

I've heard that a few times in clubs so religion & swinging can't be that incompatible.

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By *irceWoman over a year ago

Gloucester

Lol...

No you're a sinner....bad bad person... I mean that is what I was taught by religious folk omg did they smudge the truth....?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"However I'm sure you openly confess everything to your priest and don't keep secrets or lie

Exactly, why should I lie? I don't understand. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines.

So I can't believe in God because I'm bisexual, divorced, had sex before marriage and enjoy multiple partners?

Alrighty then

I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't? "

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People believe what it suits them to believe, and do what it suits them to do. There may or may not be a correlation between their professed beliefs and their actions.

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age.

So about 12 or 13?

Well, I wouldn't consider that to be child bearing age myself, and the Quran doesn't specify an age. So it's difficult to know. "

Physically it is child bearing age. Obviously it varies from person to person, some are ready at 10 and others can go to 16etc.

But still very young

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one. "

That's just offensive to Hugh Laurie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People believe what it suits them to believe, and do what it suits them to do. There may or may not be a correlation between their professed beliefs and their actions."

Well said

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting post, I'm not attached to a particular religion. I wouldn't expect a full swinging lifestyle would meet public / societal views of a 'true or good' Christian / Muslim etc (care or not about that, individual choice) and probably those beliefs of the religious leaders they speak to or seek understanding from.

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one. "

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

Yeh but that's just not Christianity, it's theistic belief.

It's Christianity if you believe in a Christian God, as well as a chunk of Christian teachings.

Nah it's not, you can't pick and mix a religion to suit your own lifestyle, that's non committal and it doesn't make sense. It's like being a vegan who also eats chicken and beef.

I completely disagree. Why shouldn't people get to choose the way they live?

Because it's so arbitrary. Why choose to say "I'm a Christian but I fuck multiple people, I fuck the same gender, I go against other dogma, etc"? It doesn't make sense and it's unnecessary.

Either practice the religion fully or don't, being half hearted about it is stupid. You can still be a good person without following Christian guidelines.

So I can't believe in God because I'm bisexual, divorced, had sex before marriage and enjoy multiple partners?

Alrighty then

I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one. "

No but I'm a fairy princess

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

They are, to all intents and purposes.

Not my church.

Must be all the fake Christians filling it up. Lol"

Yes, but show me two christians who believe all the same things and aren't trying to just fill up the holes in their pointless lives and you might have the basis for an argument.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol."

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Interesting post, I'm not attached to a particular religion. I wouldn't expect a full swinging lifestyle would meet public / societal views of a 'true or good' Christian / Muslim etc (care or not about that, individual choice) and probably those beliefs of the religious leaders they speak to or seek understanding from.

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

For sure they cherry-pick the bits that seem relevant, but it's interesting to note that athiesm is growing faster.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here. "

Are you a Christian?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"The prophet Mohammed took on a number of young girls as wives as a way to protect them in the ancient Middle East, mostly because they were either orphans or widows.

It specifically says in the Quran that he did not engage in sexual activity with his wives until they were of child bearing age.

So about 12 or 13?

Well, I wouldn't consider that to be child bearing age myself, and the Quran doesn't specify an age. So it's difficult to know.

Physically it is child bearing age. Obviously it varies from person to person, some are ready at 10 and others can go to 16etc.

But still very young

I think cultural factors also came into it. Again, we can't know, because the Quran doesn't specify an age. But yes, people did have children earlier in those days, in countries all over the world in fact.

It's hard to sit around wasting child bearing years when the average life span was 30, and infant mortality was rife. lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

For sure they cherry-pick the bits that seem relevant, but it's interesting to note that athiesm is growing faster."

Cherry picking is absurd. I don't know why people want to claim a label but won't sacrifice for it. It undermines everything about them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

For sure they cherry-pick the bits that seem relevant, but it's interesting to note that athiesm is growing faster."

It's easy to grow fast when you have a small base to start from

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aaaaand the rude, personal comments have started....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?"

Why?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

They are, to all intents and purposes.

Not my church.

Must be all the fake Christians filling it up. Lol

Yes, but show me two christians who believe all the same things and aren't trying to just fill up the holes in their pointless lives and you might have the basis for an argument."

I don't think your beliefs are very pleasant. If people find something that works for them in religion, good for them.

If you get your rocks off poking holes into what you perceive to be "pointless lives" you maybe need to get laid. At least you're in the right place - but you may need to pray hard

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By *nfamyMan over a year ago

Goole

Have you ever considered a career in the church?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?

Why?"

Does it matter God is God just different interpretations

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

They are, to all intents and purposes.

Not my church.

Must be all the fake Christians filling it up. Lol

Yes, but show me two christians who believe all the same things and aren't trying to just fill up the holes in their pointless lives and you might have the basis for an argument."

Woah there, miss judgy, no one is making any kind of argument. Especially one that said that all Christians share every aspect of their belief, so I don't know what you would prove by showing two Christians have different views! Lol.

And I think I'd struggle to find even one Christian who said that they were just "trying to just fill up the holes in their pointless lives".

Although, would be interested to see how many swinging could would confess that....

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?

Why?"

I'm curious. If you are, then why are you on here? And if you're not then why are you being so outspoken about what people can and can't believe?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm Christian and don't believe that being faithful prohibits good sex with whoever I want.

Promiscuity is against biblical teachings though. Extra marital sex is on the whole.

*Shrugs*

I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy."

He?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs"

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

For sure they cherry-pick the bits that seem relevant, but it's interesting to note that athiesm is growing faster.

It's easy to grow fast when you have a small base to start from "

Athiesm actually has a very long history, and most intelligent people have only ever pretended to adhere to religious dogma because to do otherwise would invite the separation of head from shoulders by bigots incapable of rational thought.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"I don't know why you'd choose to call yourself a Christian and do unChristian things. It's bizarre.

So the only people who are "allowed" to call themselves Christians are those that never ever do "unChristian" things?

Wow, our churches would be empty. Lol

They are, to all intents and purposes."

I define my myself as Christian because I believe in God and choose to live my life and make my moral judgement following Christian teaching. Sex is not unchristian and is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. If someone cannot be called a Christian for having sex outside of marriage are you going to now claim that everyone in places such as Brazil, Argentina and Spain, Italy (overwhelming Catholic and some of the most passionate people on earth) is a hypocrite??

Now I don't claim to be morally or spiritually superior to anybody. I accept that many people are not religious and that is cool with me. But please don't go round slagging off those who do choose religion or label them as hypocrites because it's just a bit pathetic.

I like to live by "do unto others As You would have them do unto you"

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

" The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality

It does seem to the extreme end that even I an atheist could claim to be a xtian as I'm an advocate of peace, love, and agree with maybe a few of the mythical Christ's parables

So my new sect is the non theistic caring christian sect xx

Can I be arsed to go get a bible and quote it for you? No.

As I said, it's called the new covenant for a reason and it's part of the same reason Christians eat pork and don't get their foreskin snipped. "

No need to be arsed you have a comp should take you about 84 seconds

And does this new covenant suggest you ignore the 10 commandments?

Anyway you chose to side step the main point which is you and a few others may indeed be a forward thinking minority but it would be dishonest of you to suggest that most followers of most christian sects would frown upon fab activities and would indeed quote what they believe to be xtian doctrine to justify their bigotry xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives. "

Belief in an afterlife has helped people. Doesn't give it a rational footing.

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

What could possibly be wrong with sharing "love" ?;-)

I would still like to see evidence that there is a higher power (whatever way you want to refer to it)who would seriously suggest having sex with multiple partners and in any which way is pleasure should be "wrong"!

But then of course, not everybody believes in that higher power in the first place, do they?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?

Why?

I'm curious. If you are, then why are you on here? And if you're not then why are you being so outspoken about what people can and can't believe? "

Cos I know theology and I don't understand why someone would identify as something they're not, especially when it undermines others. My religion doesn't matter.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People are welcome to believe whatever they want. But this thread reinforces my belief that those who think you can't swing and be religious are people that don't actually understand what religion is. At best they've picked up a text, read it and applied their interpretation to other people's actions.

If they really care so much, why not go ask a priest / rabbi / imam about it? It strikes me as very strange that people would rather argue with self-declared non-experts (i.e fab members) who, be definition, don't have the expertise a priest would have after they study the subject for 7 years.

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here. "

Well, it's great we have diversity in views!

And I'm glad you don't get to decide whether or not everyone else is a Christian or not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

He?"

God is a single man. He has a couples profile too (just in case)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives.

Belief in an afterlife has helped people. Doesn't give it a rational footing."

Lots of stuff is irrational in life, doesn't mean it's less significant.

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"
. Why would religion prevent people swinging . Religion is about having Christian values , not whom you may choose to have sex with.

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives. "

Placebo has also helped people get better without any active ingredients! Just a thought. Does not make it a bad thing and I guess it kind of justify the use of placebo.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People always interpret religion in their own way and within their own lives, and it won't be changing anytime soon.

For sure they cherry-pick the bits that seem relevant, but it's interesting to note that athiesm is growing faster.

It's easy to grow fast when you have a small base to start from

So I am unintelligent because I believe in a god?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Well, it's great we have diversity in views!

And I'm glad you don't get to decide whether or not everyone else is a Christian or not.

No, not me, just the Church.

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"So about 12 or 13?

Well, I wouldn't consider that to be child bearing age myself, and the Quran doesn't specify an age. So it's difficult to know.

Physically it is child bearing age. Obviously it varies from person to person, some are ready at 10 and others can go to 16etc.

But still very young

It's hard to sit around wasting child bearing years when the average life span was 30, and infant mortality was rife. lol."

Yes they did but they still have 12 year old brides in places in Egypt and this puts me off that 'culture'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Simple question would you break the rules of your religon to help another human ?

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"People are welcome to believe whatever they want. But this thread reinforces my belief that those who think you can't swing and be religious are people that don't actually understand what religion is. At best they've picked up a text, read it and applied their interpretation to other people's actions.

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people. "

This! Lolololol.

Never do I see more people care about what other believe. Lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives.

Placebo has also helped people get better without any active ingredients! Just a thought. Does not make it a bad thing and I guess it kind of justify the use of placebo.

I reckon that's a good thing though. It doesn't matter if it doesn't exist at the end of the day if it brought solace.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So about 12 or 13?

Well, I wouldn't consider that to be child bearing age myself, and the Quran doesn't specify an age. So it's difficult to know.

Physically it is child bearing age. Obviously it varies from person to person, some are ready at 10 and others can go to 16etc.

But still very young

It's hard to sit around wasting child bearing years when the average life span was 30, and infant mortality was rife. lol.

Yes they did but they still have 12 year old brides in places in Egypt and this puts me off that 'culture'."

I am sure their were child brides going back in British history

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By *VineMan over a year ago

The right place

Would any lovely women like a prayer meeting.

With the laying on of hands!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple question would you break the rules of your religon to help another human ?"

like giving cunilingus?

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

God is real to some people, and has helped save lives and bridged gaps in humanity. It's easy to forget the positives.

Placebo has also helped people get better without any active ingredients! Just a thought. Does not make it a bad thing and I guess it kind of justify the use of placebo.

I reckon that's a good thing though. It doesn't matter if it doesn't exist at the end of the day if it brought solace. "

Exactly - and that is why I don t have an issue with any religion if it makes people happy and behave better towards others. I only struggle if bad things are done in the name of that religion - any religion!

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs"
. A strange statement as real Christians do not believe in violence . How would religion cause mass misery?.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"Yes they did but they still have 12 year old brides in places in Egypt and this puts me off that 'culture'."

*nodnod* I understand that, and I get put off by that modern culture too.

But it's a bit like being put off by Christianity because modern "Christian" losers use it as a tool to validate their homophobia. The Bible says nothing about homosexuality.

In the same way, the Quran does not validate paedophilia.

Anyone who uses it in that way is twisting it for their own purposes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple question would you break the rules of your religon to help another human ?

like giving cunilingus?"

Why not hopefully you would be making that person happy which in turn leads to good karma

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" The Christian Bible is pretty clear regarding homosexuality

It does seem to the extreme end that even I an atheist could claim to be a xtian as I'm an advocate of peace, love, and agree with maybe a few of the mythical Christ's parables

So my new sect is the non theistic caring christian sect xx

Can I be arsed to go get a bible and quote it for you? No.

As I said, it's called the new covenant for a reason and it's part of the same reason Christians eat pork and don't get their foreskin snipped.

No need to be arsed you have a comp should take you about 84 seconds

And does this new covenant suggest you ignore the 10 commandments?

Of course they frown upon it! I never said it was encouraged; just that it's not a contradiction in terms to be religious and a swinger. This is not my opinion, if you really care and are not just having an intellectual pissing contest then you can try this for yourself -

1. Go to a Catholic confession and say that you've been swinging and see what happens.

2. Then go back the next week and tell the Priest you murdered someone.

Observe the fucking difference and you'll get it...

I can't talk for all Christians, I can only tell you that all the Catholic priests I know couldn't give a flying fuck about the bible outside the Gospels. Perhaps you should research how arbitrary the formation of the bible was and frankly I think they made a huge mistake including all that shit in the old testament. As do a lot of Catholics and clergy. The Pope himself doesn't give a shit what gays do and that's good enough for me.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"I am sure their were child brides going back in British history "

Yup, there were. Again, no one wants to waste childbearing years.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people. "

This is such a silly view. It's not a grey area, it is exceptionally black and white. Even an ill educated person could tell you that practising homosexuality and fucking several partners is not Christian behaviour. You can't claim it is.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

He?

God is a single man. He has a couples profile too (just in case)"

Does his wife know?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple question would you break the rules of your religon to help another human ?

like giving cunilingus?

Why not hopefully you would be making that person happy which in turn leads to good karma

praying to the furry cup..

well shaved ideally

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity. "

Can I ask you is a Chritian God different to my Hindu God where homosexuality is not considered wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know that my God would be cool with it. He's a nice chap who wants people to be happy.

He?

God is a single man. He has a couples profile too (just in case)

Does his wife know?

yeah but she knows he'll never get a meet so she ain't arsed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs"

Oh dear, sounds like someone wasn't paying attention in GCSE history. Guess you missed the parts of the seperation of church and state. Or the track record of atheist regimes and their regard for human life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity.

Can I ask you is a Chritian God different to my Hindu God where homosexuality is not considered wrong "

Yes. Completely different, one is a monotheistic religion, the other is polytheistic. Christianity would consider Hinduism worshipping false idols.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are other religions?

Next you'll be saying there are different views of Christianity

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs. A strange statement as real Christians do not believe in violence . How would religion cause mass misery?. "

Let's take an exercise in googling "the Crusades". Lol.

While you're there, let's also google "the holocaust".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity. "

Says who? You just clearly aren't getting your view from any Christian teaching. Try going to an actual confession, purely for research purposes, and you'd realise you're just plain wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am sure their were child brides going back in British history

Yup, there were. Again, no one wants to waste childbearing years. "

Really? I would not want children.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity.

Can I ask you is a Chritian God different to my Hindu God where homosexuality is not considered wrong

Yes. Completely different, one is a monotheistic religion, the other is polytheistic. Christianity would consider Hinduism worshipping false idols. "

But God is God just a different interpretation us Hindus have only one supreme God just different avatars

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"ah religion the cause of all wars and mass misery,and god is about as real as a flock of flying pigs

Yes and humans don't start wars and conflict all by themselves do they?? Both world wars, Vietnam, Boer War, Crimean War?

Also by some people on this threads reasonings, does it mean that people who only do soft swap or only meet singles can't be considered as "swingers??"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's take an exercise in googling "the Crusades". Lol.

While you're there, let's also google "the holocaust".

The crusades happened before the separation of Church and state. By definition, you can't label an event of those times as entirely religious or entirely political.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Either it's not really that important to you or you just want to look down on religious people.

It doesn't make them a bad person, and if they stop then they can continue to live as a Christian, but to continually (and willingly) commit sins, that's quite simply not Christianity.

Says who? You just clearly aren't getting your view from any Christian teaching. Try going to an actual confession, purely for research purposes, and you'd realise you're just plain wrong. "

Says the Church and the Bible... I've stated where it can be found in a few places, I can cite more. I've attended several confessions, I don't know what I need to research from it - however I wouldn't attend now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And here the thread endeth, amen.

Ps, God rocks

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

. Why would religion prevent people swinging . Religion is about having Christian values , not whom you may choose to have sex with."

How do christian values differ from my values ?

Because when I'm next out meeting a group of new people and I say I share christian values I want to know what others think christian values are. not a minority opinion of what a select open minded people think they should be xx

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By *infullysexyWoman over a year ago

Birmingham

Most of the lifestylers I've met are more honest than religious people I know. I'm an atheist.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

Let's take an exercise in googling "the Crusades". Lol.

While you're there, let's also google "the holocaust".

The crusades happened before the separation of Church and state. By definition, you can't label an event of those times as entirely religious or entirely political. "

No one is saying that it is entirely either? Just - undeniably misery caused by religion?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does anyone know where I can find three wise men and a virgin?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Says who? You just clearly aren't getting your view from any Christian teaching. Try going to an actual confession, purely for research purposes, and you'd realise you're just plain wrong."

God forbid anyone could know more than you, anyway.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?

Why?

I'm curious. If you are, then why are you on here? And if you're not then why are you being so outspoken about what people can and can't believe?

Cos I know theology and I don't understand why someone would identify as something they're not, especially when it undermines others. My religion doesn't matter. "

I'm not trying to attack your beliefs. I'm trying to understand why you think that Christians have to conform to everything, no matter how outdated, the bible says.

How many Christians eat pork?

Leviticus 11:4 "Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you."

Overweight Christians? (Vampires?)

Leviticus 3:17 "It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood."

Mixing fabrics?

Leviticus 19:19 "Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee."

Hair cuts? Shaving beards?

Leviticus 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads. Neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Tattoos?

Leviticus 19:28 "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you..."

Growing potatos/onions/leeks/cabbages in the same place?

Leviticus 19:19 "Thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed."

Wine in church? Nope, can't do that either so I guess all Christians who've had the 'blood of Christ' in church aren't Christians.

Leviticus 10:9 "Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die."

Working on Sundays? I should have used this one when I was on Sunday afternoon shifts at the bingo.

Leviticus 23:3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings."

Yes this has taken me a hell of a long time.. And Google is my friend. I don't claim to know anything about religion so I apologise if I've misquoted or anything. The point is... A lot of these are silly and outdated. I don't know a single Christian who conforms to all of these things. And I went to a catholic school so I know a lot of them.

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Bingley

"I don't identify as a Christian. But who are you to tell me that I can't?

It's a definition. You can also say you're a house, it doesn't make you one.

It's not as cut and dry as a house, though, is it?

Well, I mean, actually, to me and my priest it is (that I believe my god is my god, and Jesus died to save us), but apparently your definition is slightly.... "different". Lol.

Yeh it is. Either follow Catechism and be a Christian or don't, and don't be a Christian.

For example, you have to actually study something to claim you're a student. Same goes here.

Are you a Christian?

Why?

I'm curious. If you are, then why are you on here? And if you're not then why are you being so outspoken about what people can and can't believe?

Cos I know theology and I don't understand why someone would identify as something they're not, especially when it undermines others. My religion doesn't matter. "

I'm not trying to attack your beliefs. I'm trying to understand why you think that Christians have to conform to everything, no matter how outdated, the bible says.

How many Christians eat pork?

Overweight Christians? (Vampires?)

Leviticus 3:17 "It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood."

Mixing fabrics?

Leviticus 19:19 "Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee."

Hair cuts? Shaving beards?

Leviticus 19:27 "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads. Neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."

Tattoos?

Leviticus 19:28 "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you..."

Growing potatos/onions/leeks/cabbages in the same place?

Leviticus 19:19 "Thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed."

Wine in church? Nope, can't do that either so I guess all Christians who've had the 'blood of Christ' in church aren't Christians.

Leviticus 10:9 "Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die."

Working on Sundays? I should have used this one when I was on Sunday afternoon shifts at the bingo.

Leviticus 23:3 "Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings."

You're right, some are impossible to maintain by today's standards, and Catechism acknowledges that. When the beliefs regarding fucking people in gangbangs and homosexuality change in the Church's opinion, then they'll be acceptable. Until that point, they're not.

This isn't my opinion by the way, it's the teaching of the Church and Bible. I couldn't care less if someone is Christian or not, but I do believe they should respect a religion enough to not undermine it. Just choose something else. It's silly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I found one of the wise men.. the other two are out looking for strawberry flavoured beaver apparently.

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