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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Govt is spending too much because people are living longer.
What utter rubbish!
Do you know how much the govt is spending in the Falkland Islands?"
No. How much? Is it relevant? |
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"Govt is spending too much because people are living longer.
What utter rubbish!
Do you know how much the govt is spending in the Falkland Islands?
No. How much? Is it relevant?"
It becomes relevant if you think of priorities. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Govt is spending too much because people are living longer.
What utter rubbish!
Do you know how much the govt is spending in the Falkland Islands?
No. How much? Is it relevant?
It becomes relevant if you think of priorities."
And I still don't know how much is being spent on the Falklands. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isn't it British though the Falklands ? Or did I miss something.
Apparently down South we live a year longer than up North. Wonder where the dividing line is and who analyses all these stats.
Sarah |
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"You dont need to know how much. Just think of it as a mere example of a long list.
Er, OK then. You did ask. So neither of us know?"
The second result yielded this...
"The Falklands is largely self-financing, apart from the costs of the military base, which are paid by the UK taxpayer."
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/03/falkland-islands-data-charts
If people don't want to pay for the defence of a British Overseas Territory then don't, give up the claim to it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You dont need to know how much. Just think of it as a mere example of a long list.
Er, OK then. You did ask. So neither of us know?
That makes me want to Google. "
I did. The Falklands are largely self-financing. The only cost to the government is the military base. It seems that the Falklands pay us about £4m a year. The base costs about £75m per year. I am sure the OP would have enlightened us. I am not sure about the oil revenues. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What's with the title in French, do they want the Falklands now.
Par ce que les isles Malvinas is not Anglais"
If you believe that then why not post the thread in Spanish ?
And what about our grandfathers ?
Do they not get a look in ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh, by the way, we benefit from the oil by 100 billion pounds. Seems like we're quids in then, OP, unless you can find other figures (which clearly are of no importance to your post). |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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What about Gibraltar? Should we give that back to the Spanish? Oh, hold on, Gibraltar was ours before the country of Spain existed. Same goes for the Falkland Islands. Argentina didn't exist as a sovereign state until long after we had staked out claim to them. In a nutshell, they have never belonged to Argentina. |
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Have a good look at the post below and tell me if you like the sound of it:
''I did. The Falklands are largely self-financing. THE ONLY COST to the government is the military base. It seems that the Falklands pay US about £4m a year. The base costs about £75m per year. I am sure the OP would have enlightened us. I am not sure about the OIL REVENUES.''
Too often when negative history is being made people are either complicit, apathetic, complacent or shortsighted. When the fallouts start manifesting themselves a few generations down the line, there will be the usual protestations of 'I didnt do it, my forefathers did, get over it',no doubt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have a good look at the post below and tell me if you like the sound of it:
''I did. The Falklands are largely self-financing. THE ONLY COST to the government is the military base. It seems that the Falklands pay US about £4m a year. The base costs about £75m per year. I am sure the OP would have enlightened us. I am not sure about the OIL REVENUES.''
Too often when negative history is being made people are either complicit, apathetic, complacent or shortsighted. When the fallouts start manifesting themselves a few generations down the line, there will be the usual protestations of 'I didnt do it, my forefathers did, get over it',no doubt. "
OP, your intial post was about the money spent on the Falklands. I asked if you could tell me how much was spent. You couldn't. I could. It seems we benefit financially.
Is this now some strange slavery sort of thread? What "negative history" (whatever that is) is being made? I am all confuddled here, I am afraid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about Gibraltar? Should we give that back to the Spanish? Oh, hold on, Gibraltar was ours before the country of Spain existed. Same goes for the Falkland Islands. Argentina didn't exist as a sovereign state until long after we had staked out claim to them. In a nutshell, they have never belonged to Argentina. "
And the Spanish are completely hypocritical about their enclaves in North Africa |
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"What about Gibraltar? Should we give that back to the Spanish? Oh, hold on, Gibraltar was ours before the country of Spain existed. Same goes for the Falkland Islands. Argentina didn't exist as a sovereign state until long after we had staked out claim to them. In a nutshell, they have never belonged to Argentina.
And the Spanish are completely hypocritical about their enclaves in North Africa "
Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about Gibraltar? Should we give that back to the Spanish? Oh, hold on, Gibraltar was ours before the country of Spain existed. Same goes for the Falkland Islands. Argentina didn't exist as a sovereign state until long after we had staked out claim to them. In a nutshell, they have never belonged to Argentina.
And the Spanish are completely hypocritical about their enclaves in North Africa
Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain."
Easy - the Spanish are refusing to return or relinquish their enclaves in North Africa.
When Spain recognized the independence of Spanish Morocco in 1956, Ceuta and the other plazas de soberanía remained under Spanish rule. Spain considered them integral parts of the Spanish state, but Morocco has disputed this point.
Yet Spain is refusing to recognise that Gibraltar is British sovereign territory, established under similar circumstances, under treaties with Spain and Portugal.
Su they refuse to give up their enclaves, yet demand Britain does.
Hypocritical |
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"You only have to look at the Chagos Archipelago to see that British exceptionalism is alive and well.
Disgraceful.
Oi, not so loud. Dont you know that WE ARE QUIDS IN?"
It has nothing to do with money in this case, it's just arrogance and militaristic domination at the expense of innocent people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong..."
Where they are forced to farm penguins for their oil? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It has nothing to do with money in this case, it's just arrogance and militaristic domination at the expense of innocent people. "
Which are the innocent people? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong..."
Or you may not. Who knows? |
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Or you may not. Who knows?"
I thought it was about money but then it turned out not to be so I just jumped on in |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Where they are forced to farm penguins for their oil?"
You know, if you squeeze 10 penguins, you get a lot of penguin oil. Still not sure why it is important (just like I am unsure what the OP is trying to say).
By the way, penguin oil is rancid. Sorry to offend any penguins here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So we are all agreed then. meet at the penguin enclosure with banners calling for an end to the lractice of exporting pensioners for penguin wringing "
Seems like a good idea. Better than trying to respond to the original post, anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How can you put a price on Penguins...
They were a quid for 7 in Sainsbury's yesterday "
nice one.....that's handy too know.....next time I'm hosting the tyne and wear bring your tranny to work day I'll be sure to stock up....
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Or you may not. Who knows?"
Ah be patient. It will grow on you; just like it has on others. I kid you not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Or you may not. Who knows?
Ah be patient. It will grow on you; just like it has on others. I kid you not. "
Well, OP, it started as a "Do you know how much we spend on the Falklands," and then went pretty odd after that. It might be best to address the issue or make the point that you were trying to get across. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Where they are forced to fairm penguins for their oil?"
I'v not laughter so much in ages. Hilarious |
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Or you may not. Who knows?
Ah be patient. It will grow on you; just like it has on others. I kid you not.
Well, OP, it started as a "Do you know how much we spend on the Falklands," and then went pretty odd after that. It might be best to address the issue or make the point that you were trying to get across."
Let me worry about that. Whichever way the thread was started, you take from it what you want. Enjoy which part you wish etc etc. I am sure you can manage that. Matter of style, matter of choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not quite sure what this thread is about, think it's got something to do with enslaving pensioners and shipping them to the Falklands
but I may be wrong...
Or you may not. Who knows?
Ah be patient. It will grow on you; just like it has on others. I kid you not.
Well, OP, it started as a "Do you know how much we spend on the Falklands," and then went pretty odd after that. It might be best to address the issue or make the point that you were trying to get across.
Let me worry about that. Whichever way the thread was started, you take from it what you want. Enjoy which part you wish etc etc. I am sure you can manage that. Matter of style, matter of choice."
Matter of very strangeness? The economics you suggested are obviously questionable. Perhaps you wanted to talk about squeezing oil out of penguins after all. Matter of content. |
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Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain."
Easy - the Spanish are refusing to return or relinquish their enclaves in North Africa.
When Spain recognized the independence of Spanish Morocco in 1956, Ceuta and the other plazas de soberanía remained under Spanish rule. Spain considered them integral parts of the Spanish state, but Morocco has disputed this point.
Yet Spain is refusing to recognise that Gibraltar is British sovereign territory, established under similar circumstances, under treaties with Spain and Portugal.
Su they refuse to give up their enclaves, yet demand Britain does.
Hypocritical
Based on what you are saying, there is a truth or right(opposite of wrong) which both Britain and Spain are playing about; is that correct? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain."
Easy - the Spanish are refusing to return or relinquish their enclaves in North Africa.
When Spain recognized the independence of Spanish Morocco in 1956, Ceuta and the other plazas de soberanía remained under Spanish rule. Spain considered them integral parts of the Spanish state, but Morocco has disputed this point.
Yet Spain is refusing to recognise that Gibraltar is British sovereign territory, established under similar circumstances, under treaties with Spain and Portugal.
Su they refuse to give up their enclaves, yet demand Britain does.
Hypocritical
Based on what you are saying, there is a truth or right(opposite of wrong) which both Britain and Spain are playing about; is that correct?"
And, returning to your original post (in case you had forgotten), the economics of our government supporting the Falklands? You seem reluctant to return to that. |
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"Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain."
Easy - the Spanish are refusing to return or relinquish their enclaves in North Africa.
When Spain recognized the independence of Spanish Morocco in 1956, Ceuta and the other plazas de soberanía remained under Spanish rule. Spain considered them integral parts of the Spanish state, but Morocco has disputed this point.
Yet Spain is refusing to recognise that Gibraltar is British sovereign territory, established under similar circumstances, under treaties with Spain and Portugal.
Su they refuse to give up their enclaves, yet demand Britain does.
Hypocritical
Based on what you are saying, there is a truth or right(opposite of wrong) which both Britain and Spain are playing about; is that correct?
And, returning to your original post (in case you had forgotten), the economics of our government supporting the Falklands? You seem reluctant to return to that."
Supporting? OMG. Support like russia supports Georgia? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
Go on explain."
Easy - the Spanish are refusing to return or relinquish their enclaves in North Africa.
When Spain recognized the independence of Spanish Morocco in 1956, Ceuta and the other plazas de soberanía remained under Spanish rule. Spain considered them integral parts of the Spanish state, but Morocco has disputed this point.
Yet Spain is refusing to recognise that Gibraltar is British sovereign territory, established under similar circumstances, under treaties with Spain and Portugal.
Su they refuse to give up their enclaves, yet demand Britain does.
Hypocritical
Based on what you are saying, there is a truth or right(opposite of wrong) which both Britain and Spain are playing about; is that correct?
And, returning to your original post (in case you had forgotten), the economics of our government supporting the Falklands? You seem reluctant to return to that.
Supporting? OMG. Support like russia supports Georgia? "
Erm ...
"Govt is spending too much because people are living longer.
What utter rubbish!
Do you know how much the govt is spending in the Falkland Islands?"
That was your original post. What does Russia and Georgia have to do with that?
I told you what the government is spending on the Falklands and the potential economic return but you decided to ignore that.
What point are you trying to make as I am lost? |
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I'll help you out,
He that knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
My original post carried a different message on the surface which a few people(yourself included) addressed.
Then there was the deeper message which a fair few people also addressed.
Unfortunately for you, you dabbled in both meanings without realising the switchover point; hence your confusion. But its all good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll help you out,
He that knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
My original post carried a different message on the surface which a few people(yourself included) addressed.
Then there was the deeper message which a fair few people also addressed.
Unfortunately for you, you dabbled in both meanings without realising the switchover point; hence your confusion. But its all good. "
Thank you glasshopper, all clear now, am agronic agh eek. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll help you out,
He that knows not and knows that he knows not is a student; teach him.
My original post carried a different message on the surface which a few people(yourself included) addressed.
Then there was the deeper message which a fair few people also addressed.
Unfortunately for you, you dabbled in both meanings without realising the switchover point; hence your confusion. But its all good. "
Why the need to be cryptic on a public message board where pretty much anything can be discussed.
A very special kind of "Look at me" post. |
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