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"so to those who said "all of the candidates are shit"..... how does that really add to the conversation.... in what way? what do you disagree with them on? its all well and good being a soundbite.... but rather than just mocking those that do that an interest and screaming "forum police" i would like to think that people are learning a little bit...." I'll be good this time 
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with?" i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... " I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all. | |||
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"I'm late to the party and you've probably answered this already, but do you have any prognostications for the result, Fabio?" Recent history indicates that the Republicans should win, there has been a run of 2 terms, and switch. That is often countered by a majority in congress of the opposition party, which appears to work well in moderating politicians to being less harmful to society. | |||
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" its all well and good being a soundbite.... but rather than just mocking those that do that an interest and screaming "forum police" i would like to think that people are learning a little bit...." I'm learning a lot, but then I'm a geek about politics and have always enjoyed the U.S elections. I think any long politics/current affairs thread is bound to go off at tangents, get a bit derailed at times. Didn't think the last one was bad at all for that tbh - could have been way worse. Anyway, keep up the good work. Would live to be a fly on the wall in the Hilary camp right now. | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all." . That's the catch 22 of politics. You need TV coverage, trumps done it the easy way with inflammatory sound bites, the guy flip flops.. For instance he supported Hillary when she ran against Obama, he's supported anti gun legislation, pro abortion... He even supported single payer healthcare. How many people on here that comment on trump actually know small print??. Don't get me wrong im no fan of trump but I get his tactics. Sound bites work and the detail very rarely gets a genuine debate! Like the notion of trump being a " successful businessman".... Is he really? | |||
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"I'm late to the party and you've probably answered this already, but do you have any prognostications for the result, Fabio? Recent history indicates that the Republicans should win, there has been a run of 2 terms, and switch. That is often countered by a majority in congress of the opposition party, which appears to work well in moderating politicians to being less harmful to society." . Errr I'm not so sure, George w only got in through cheating, he'd never had been elected second time except the US was at war and nobody ever changes leaders while at war,a black guy with Muslim heritage beat their best candidate for ages because his VP was a fucking loon... I would say the chances of a Republican being voted in this time is very slim, there's very little quality in the Republican party! | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all." ? Maybe he is saying what the people of America are saying. | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all. ? Maybe he is saying what the people of America are saying." I think that's a large part of what he does - parroting and amplification of some truisms for a part of the population. Simple and effective, at low cost to himself. Hitler did some of the same, tapping into the anxieties of many in his country. (I hesitate to use him as an example, due to his atrocities etc, but merely am focused on his playing to a sizable discord in his day). | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all. ? Maybe he is saying what the people of America are saying. I think that's a large part of what he does - parroting and amplification of some truisms for a part of the population. Simple and effective, at low cost to himself. Hitler did some of the same, tapping into the anxieties of many in his country. (I hesitate to use him as an example, due to his atrocities etc, but merely am focused on his playing to a sizable discord in his day)." you didnt hesitate one bit. typical left wing shit. | |||
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"Is voting Bernie in as the Democrat candidate risky in that common perception is that Hilary has the better chance of beating whichever demagogue the Republicans end up with? i think the problem is that the word "liberal" and "socialist" have become a dirty codeword on the right and they have managed to get that to stick.... which is why the word used is progressive...... I find it so sad that the word or concept of liberal has become so trashed in the U.S. My loathing for Trump still stands, playing the population like puppets and just feeding out inflammatory tripe that gets him tons of free coverage, usually saying very little at all. ? Maybe he is saying what the people of America are saying. I think that's a large part of what he does - parroting and amplification of some truisms for a part of the population. Simple and effective, at low cost to himself. Hitler did some of the same, tapping into the anxieties of many in his country. (I hesitate to use him as an example, due to his atrocities etc, but merely am focused on his playing to a sizable discord in his day)." Yes it's the politics of blame. | |||
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"As opposed to typical right-wing shit? Because it's all shit. Left-wing, right-wing? Same fucking bird and it only flies in one direction that is driven by the interests of capital. These 'candidates' are puppets. Distractions for the masses. To think that it matters one jot which presimental fuckwit wins displays a complete misunderstanding of where power lies in capitalism." Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. Full of im offended people. I agree with where the power lies and actually believe in the Iluminati | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. " How so? | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? " maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them. | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them." Our press is mostly right wing in case you hadn't noticed. Lefties don't stop righties having their view, they're vocal about disagreeing with it. Say whatever the hell you want and stop hiding behind a makebelieve gag. | |||
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"There's an FBI investigation starting into Hilary Clinton and her "emails" - a quick Google search will provide more info, so she will no longer be in the running soon. The Americans feed off a culture of war and killing bad guys so without any shadow of a doubt the new president, like it or not, will be Trump. " As of last week, I don't know if things have changed, the problems with the emails were that things were being retroactively made classified that weren't originally. | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them. Our press is mostly right wing in case you hadn't noticed. Lefties don't stop righties having their view, they're vocal about disagreeing with it. Say whatever the hell you want and stop hiding behind a makebelieve gag. " They very much do. by putting fear in everything. Look at Farage, he want controlled immigration for people all around the world. The lefties cant agree on what they want, peopole from around the world or just Europe so they shout racism. people are then frightened to vote for him even tho they believe in what he says. you also need to look in to American universties to see what the left are doing | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them. Our press is mostly right wing in case you hadn't noticed. Lefties don't stop righties having their view, they're vocal about disagreeing with it. Say whatever the hell you want and stop hiding behind a makebelieve gag. They very much do. by putting fear in everything. Look at Farage, he want controlled immigration for people all around the world. The lefties cant agree on what they want, peopole from around the world or just Europe so they shout racism. people are then frightened to vote for him even tho they believe in what he says. you also need to look in to American universties to see what the left are doing" And the right don't put fear into everything? Lol I don't know what little world you live in. | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them. Our press is mostly right wing in case you hadn't noticed. Lefties don't stop righties having their view, they're vocal about disagreeing with it. Say whatever the hell you want and stop hiding behind a makebelieve gag. They very much do. by putting fear in everything. Look at Farage, he want controlled immigration for people all around the world. The lefties cant agree on what they want, peopole from around the world or just Europe so they shout racism. people are then frightened to vote for him even tho they believe in what he says. you also need to look in to American universties to see what the left are doing And the right don't put fear into everything? Lol I don't know what little world you live in. " The real one, not a left or right | |||
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" Left wing shit has become acceptable, thats the problem, making people afraid of who they are over others. How so? maybe acceptable is the wrong word. People are frightened to air certain views because the lefties will be offended somehow and trial by social media will start. They are now controling the press and putting fear in to anyone who challenges them. Our press is mostly right wing in case you hadn't noticed. Lefties don't stop righties having their view, they're vocal about disagreeing with it. Say whatever the hell you want and stop hiding behind a makebelieve gag. They very much do. by putting fear in everything. Look at Farage, he want controlled immigration for people all around the world. The lefties cant agree on what they want, peopole from around the world or just Europe so they shout racism. people are then frightened to vote for him even tho they believe in what he says. you also need to look in to American universties to see what the left are doing And the right don't put fear into everything? Lol I don't know what little world you live in. The real one, not a left or right" . Your taking about regressive leftism... I can assure you I've been true left wing all my life but I've never sold out to the regressives! Again being left wing doesn't mean you can't understand capitalism, it is in entirely possible to be a liberal and a capitalist | |||
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"Some of the reason that Trump is so popular and doing so well is because of the frustration of a large portion of the American public. We were sold a bill of goods with ObamaCare, told that prices would go down and everyone would have the coverage that they need and deserve--simply not true, prices have increased and in some parts of the country people are not permitted to use the doctor that they choose. Our borders are ridiculously porous, a very frightening condition in this day & age. Like it or not, the right to bear arms is protected in our constitution, so when the politicians clamor about gun control it gets the populace stirred up. Our media adds to the uneasiness that people are experiencing right now...they over-dramatize any and everything that will get them ratings...and that happens on all the news channels (CNN, MSNBC, FOX and the rest). " I think that is a little unfair on the affordable care act... because as part of it the states were offered extra money to truely impliment it.... a lot of republican led states said no thank you.... (this is where kasich will get slaughtered because he was one of the few republican governors pragmatic enough to take the extra money to serve his state....) it is better than what was in place.... it can be improved on...... | |||
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"so to those who said "all of the candidates are shit"..... how does that really add to the conversation.... in what way? what do you disagree with them on? its all well and good being a soundbite.... but rather than just mocking those that do that an interest and screaming "forum police" i would like to think that people are learning a little bit...." With respect I never called your Candidates 'shit' at all. I was asked to leave the discussion because my views and comparisons were not of any interest to an American so I did. Others called 'Forum Police' and I think they were right. Sometimes SOME Americans come across as pretty arrogant and dismissive of others simply because they are foreign. I mean should I mention gun control and the flack foreigners get? Anyway I have nothing further to add but I don't like being misrepresented ... Have a good discussion. | |||
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"so to those who said "all of the candidates are shit"..... how does that really add to the conversation.... in what way? what do you disagree with them on? its all well and good being a soundbite.... but rather than just mocking those that do that an interest and screaming "forum police" i would like to think that people are learning a little bit.... With respect I never called your Candidates 'shit' at all. I was asked to leave the discussion because my views and comparisons were not of any interest to an American so I did. Others called 'Forum Police' and I think they were right. Sometimes SOME Americans come across as pretty arrogant and dismissive of others simply because they are foreign. I mean should I mention gun control and the flack foreigners get? Anyway I have nothing further to add but I don't like being misrepresented ... Have a good discussion." that comment actually wasn't aimed at you.........  it was the soundbite with no backup that was generally designed to inflame... then other people piled on (interesting because some were the very people who admonish others who do the same thing)
i am interesting in conversation, but just saying "all candidates are shit" doesn't really give a great deal of scope to talk... in effect its actually a conversation stopper.....
anyway.... onwards...... did anyone watch the debate last night... i am just about to watch it now..... | |||
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"Some of the reason that Trump is so popular and doing so well is because of the frustration of a large portion of the American public. We were sold a bill of goods with ObamaCare, told that prices would go down and everyone would have the coverage that they need and deserve--simply not true, prices have increased and in some parts of the country people are not permitted to use the doctor that they choose. Our borders are ridiculously porous, a very frightening condition in this day & age. Like it or not, the right to bear arms is protected in our constitution, so when the politicians clamor about gun control it gets the populace stirred up. Our media adds to the uneasiness that people are experiencing right now...they over-dramatize any and everything that will get them ratings...and that happens on all the news channels (CNN, MSNBC, FOX and the rest). I think that is a little unfair on the affordable care act... because as part of it the states were offered extra money to truely impliment it.... a lot of republican led states said no thank you.... (this is where kasich will get slaughtered because he was one of the few republican governors pragmatic enough to take the extra money to serve his state....) it is better than what was in place.... it can be improved on...... " And a lot of people complained of increased costs, even though their premiums had always been increasing due to inflation before the ACA. Chris Hayes had a good spot on his show looking at the stats. | |||
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"Hillary will be president. They've had white guys, a black guy and now it's time for a woman to take charge. After her I'd love to see a lovely looking TV as president! ". Actually they've never had a Jewish president either! | |||
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"Hillary will be president. They've had white guys, a black guy and now it's time for a woman to take charge. After her I'd love to see a lovely looking TV as president! .
Actually they've never had a Jewish president either!"I love a woman president.... that lady will be president elizabeth warren after the sanders administration..... | |||
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"Hillary will be president. They've had white guys, a black guy and now it's time for a woman to take charge. After her I'd love to see a lovely looking TV as president! .
Actually they've never had a Jewish president either!
I love a woman president.... that lady will be president elizabeth warren after the sanders administration..... ". Well there both genuine politicans in it for completely different reasons than Hillary IMO. I mailed somebody this question, think about all the scandals that Hillary and bill have got upto over the last 30 years (even before she was in politics)! Now imagine they were Republicans not democrats.... Would the perception be different? | |||
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"we are going to have an interesting constitutional arguement going to happen as the election is going on.... supreme court judge antonin Scalia has passed away, he was probably the most conservative of the Supreme Court Judges... and it gets to be the choice of the president who gets to feel the position..... which means it is likely to be more liberal but it leaves the republicans with an interesting question.... do they try and block the appointment till november, hoping on then a republican president... or do you allow it thru knowing the devil you know... knowing that someone like sanders could pick an even more liberal judge.... " . Scalia was an interesting guy!. Y'all-Quida will miss him but I doubt anybody gay will. | |||
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"we are going to have an interesting constitutional arguement going to happen as the election is going on.... supreme court judge antonin Scalia has passed away, he was probably the most conservative of the Supreme Court Judges... and it gets to be the choice of the president who gets to feel the position..... which means it is likely to be more liberal but it leaves the republicans with an interesting question.... do they try and block the appointment till november, hoping on then a republican president... or do you allow it thru knowing the devil you know... knowing that someone like sanders could pick an even more liberal judge.... . Scalia was an interesting guy!. Y'all-Quida will miss him but I doubt anybody gay will. " well the supreme court is at the moment generally considered to be a 5-4 split in favour of the conservatives at the moment.... so an obama appointment would swing it the other way........which means stuff like the voting rights act are likely to come back... and the citizens united case (where you see billionaires able to contribute without limits atm) anyway.... anyone see last nights republican debate..... that was about a nasty a debate as i have see.... carnage all over the place.... the winners last night was the democratic party..... | |||
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"we are going to have an interesting constitutional arguement going to happen as the election is going on.... supreme court judge antonin Scalia has passed away, he was probably the most conservative of the Supreme Court Judges... and it gets to be the choice of the president who gets to feel the position..... which means it is likely to be more liberal but it leaves the republicans with an interesting question.... do they try and block the appointment till november, hoping on then a republican president... or do you allow it thru knowing the devil you know... knowing that someone like sanders could pick an even more liberal judge.... . Scalia was an interesting guy!. Y'all-Quida will miss him but I doubt anybody gay will. well the supreme court is at the moment generally considered to be a 5-4 split in favour of the conservatives at the moment.... so an obama appointment would swing it the other way........which means stuff like the voting rights act are likely to come back... and the citizens united case (where you see billionaires able to contribute without limits atm) anyway.... anyone see last nights republican debate..... that was about a nasty a debate as i have see.... carnage all over the place.... the winners last night was the democratic party..... " . Yeah I watched it!, it was hideous incoherent answers, personal attacks, trumps ramblings fresh from his subconsciouses... They just fall out of his mouth without any thought lol. Anyways what I really wanna discuss is super delegates in the democratic primaries.. Who are they and why do they count more? | |||
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Who'd have thought he'd go before Ginsburg??
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"I can't believe Scalia is dead. He was a very intelligent legal mind, even if you don't believe in his politics. I met him once when I was in law school after watching arguments given before the Supreme Court. He was in person as you'd expect from his writing, sadly. Still can't believe he is dead, though. I almost started believing he'd be on the bench forever.
Who'd have thought he'd go before Ginsburg??
-Courtney ". I didn't like him I thought he was a giant hypocrite who twisted law and principles to suit his own agenda!. It will be interesting to see who Obama promotes or doesn't!. | |||
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"I can't believe Scalia is dead. He was a very intelligent legal mind, even if you don't believe in his politics. I met him once when I was in law school after watching arguments given before the Supreme Court. He was in person as you'd expect from his writing, sadly. Still can't believe he is dead, though. I almost started believing he'd be on the bench forever.
Who'd have thought he'd go before Ginsburg??
-Courtney .
I didn't like him I thought he was a giant hypocrite who twisted law and principles to suit his own agenda!.
It will be interesting to see who Obama promotes or doesn't!.
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"God help the world if trump becomes president ! " God help the World if most of those candidates become president! | |||
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"go trumper....at least he has style with that hair do.plays the crowd and has people on his side momentum etc...plus should give us a laugh and could he do any worse.....plus I could not give a fcuk.....I just want out of the eu" If trump gets in, can we have Sugar or Branson? Much rather a proven businessman than a career politician. | |||
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"go trumper....at least he has style with that hair do.plays the crowd and has people on his side momentum etc...plus should give us a laugh and could he do any worse.....plus I could not give a fcuk.....I just want out of the eu If trump gets in, can we have Sugar or Branson? Much rather a proven businessman than a career politician." . Trumps been bankrupt 3/4 times?. I'm not sure that's the business skill any country needs!. Funny how the real genius business people like gates, jobs, buffet,wosniak .. They don't really do politics, there way to busy doing other stuff! | |||
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" Anyways what I really wanna discuss is super delegates in the democratic primaries.. Who are they and why do they count more?" who are they.... well basically they are high up people in the party, the leaders and the elected officials at both state and national level (so those in the senate and the house, and higher up leaders at state level) why do their votes count for more? they do and they don't... what it does it give the elected officals a larger say..... a bit like in the old labour and tory party where the MP's have a larger say in who became party leader | |||
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"go trumper....at least he has style with that hair do.plays the crowd and has people on his side momentum etc...plus should give us a laugh and could he do any worse.....plus I could not give a fcuk.....I just want out of the eu If trump gets in, can we have Sugar or Branson? Much rather a proven businessman than a career politician." i wouldn't want sugar in power he's a jew | |||
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"i wouldn't want sugar in power he's a jew" wow.... nice sentiment.... p.s bernie sanders is jewish..... | |||
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"American needs a STRONG president/leader like Regan or Thatcher for the next 8 years , none of the current candidates look like they fit the bill which is worrying for the test of the world, think, ISIS,Nth Korea, Russia etc " yeh cause thatcher did such a great job ! | |||
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"..... I'm a bit stumped, how come the super delegates of the democrats have already voted but the Republicans haven't?. And can they swap votes during the election or are they fixed!. " only the superdelegates in the state that contests have happened in have voted so far (iowa and new hampshire... and all for clinton) they are allowed to change their vote at anytime.... busy time for us electorial honks in the next couple of days..... CNN are doing two republican "town halls" in the next two days.... tonight it is Carson, Cruz and Rubio..... tomorrow is Trump, Kasich and Jeb basically they are 2 hr events and split into in effect 3 35 minute Q and A's with the candidates... with the questions coming from the audiences and the moderator.... MSNBC are doing a 1 hr town hall with Trump tonight, with the "morning joe" crew doing the moderating... (no other rpeublican candidate would dare do anything with MSNBC, and they are condsidered the liberal leaning news network..... also.... MSNBC are doing a democratic "town hall" on thursday with Clinton and Sanders in Las Vegas ahead of the democratic nevada caucus on saturday night.... the race is wafer close, in the last polling clinton had a 48-47 lead, but sanders was closing in fast..... | |||
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"..... I'm a bit stumped, how come the super delegates of the democrats have already voted but the Republicans haven't?. And can they swap votes during the election or are they fixed!. only the superdelegates in the state that contests have happened in have voted so far (iowa and new hampshire... and all for clinton) they are allowed to change their vote at anytime.... busy time for us electorial honks in the next couple of days..... CNN are doing two republican "town halls" in the next two days.... tonight it is Carson, Cruz and Rubio..... tomorrow is Trump, Kasich and Jeb basically they are 2 hr events and split into in effect 3 35 minute Q and A's with the candidates... with the questions coming from the audiences and the moderator.... MSNBC are doing a 1 hr town hall with Trump tonight, with the "morning joe" crew doing the moderating... (no other rpeublican candidate would dare do anything with MSNBC, and they are condsidered the liberal leaning news network..... also.... MSNBC are doing a democratic "town hall" on thursday with Clinton and Sanders in Las Vegas ahead of the democratic nevada caucus on saturday night.... the race is wafer close, in the last polling clinton had a 48-47 lead, but sanders was closing in fast....." . Exciting late night stuff for my perusal | |||
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"Which of them are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderbergers, or the Trilateral Commission?" . The CFR is a right wing think tank headed by the Rockefellers!.. Conspiracy theorists wet dreams. The bilderberg is an international gathering of the wealthy... Conspiracy theorists wet dreams. If I had to guess I'd probably say Clinton's been to bilderberg or two | |||
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"Trump wins the South Carolina republican primary...... Clinton wins the Nevada Democratic Caucus over Sanders 52-47....... Jeb Bush drops out the race.... I am guessing Carson will do the same..... and then there were four......" Isn't it kinda of funny that Republicans ripped on Obama for potentially not being American, whilst Ted is legitimately Canadian!!! | |||
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"Which of them are members of the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderbergers, or the Trilateral Commission?. The CFR is a right wing think tank headed by the Rockefellers!.. Conspiracy theorists wet dreams. The bilderberg is an international gathering of the wealthy... Conspiracy theorists wet dreams. If I had to guess I'd probably say Clinton's been to bilderberg or two" She's never got anywhere due to talent, that's for sure | |||
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"Trump wins the South Carolina republican primary...... Clinton wins the Nevada Democratic Caucus over Sanders 52-47....... Jeb Bush drops out the race.... I am guessing Carson will do the same..... and then there were four......" . Well I think Bernie's been too gentlemanly with Hillary. Politics is a nasty business and It's time to get nasty!. It's time to ask where the Clinton foundation money comes from. Ask for the transcripts from the bank speeches of which she's had millions of dollars in fees (she's started saying she'll break up those banks... If they become a threat), it's time for Bernie to say, there a threat according to the federal reserves own rules of which Elizabeth warren has had Janet yellen on many times. She's quick to say Bernie's sexist, well he should be pointing out she's been married to a sexual predator for years and covered up many sexual scandals for bill!. She's no fucking feminist | |||
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"Trump wins the South Carolina republican primary...... Clinton wins the Nevada Democratic Caucus over Sanders 52-47....... Jeb Bush drops out the race.... I am guessing Carson will do the same..... and then there were four....... Well I think Bernie's been too gentlemanly with Hillary. Politics is a nasty business and It's time to get nasty!. It's time to ask where the Clinton foundation money comes from. Ask for the transcripts from the bank speeches of which she's had millions of dollars in fees (she's started saying she'll break up those banks... If they become a threat), it's time for Bernie to say, there a threat according to the federal reserves own rules of which Elizabeth warren has had Janet yellen on many times. She's quick to say Bernie's sexist, well he should be pointing out she's been married to a sexual predator for years and covered up many sexual scandals for bill!. She's no fucking feminist" The problem with it is that the media are so desperate for female role models in politics, and to a lesser extent business, that they start putting any woman on a pedestal. Ronda Rousey for President I say, she's a far better woman's role model... Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? | |||
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"Trump wins the South Carolina republican primary...... Clinton wins the Nevada Democratic Caucus over Sanders 52-47....... Jeb Bush drops out the race.... I am guessing Carson will do the same..... and then there were four....... Well I think Bernie's been too gentlemanly with Hillary. Politics is a nasty business and It's time to get nasty!. It's time to ask where the Clinton foundation money comes from. Ask for the transcripts from the bank speeches of which she's had millions of dollars in fees (she's started saying she'll break up those banks... If they become a threat), it's time for Bernie to say, there a threat according to the federal reserves own rules of which Elizabeth warren has had Janet yellen on many times. She's quick to say Bernie's sexist, well he should be pointing out she's been married to a sexual predator for years and covered up many sexual scandals for bill!. She's no fucking feminist The problem with it is that the media are so desperate for female role models in politics, and to a lesser extent business, that they start putting any woman on a pedestal. Ronda Rousey for President I say, she's a far better woman's role model... Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? " . He's running on a ticket against corruption! She's running as she's bent as a nine Bob note... The alternative is the other three numb nutted, science denying, fuckwits who have their finger on that big red button just waitin for the good lord to show them a sign that the reckoning is upon us... Given that situation most people think Hilary's a saint and Bernie's a wiz  | |||
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"old trumper will keep moving forward ....and says what he thinks...and/or what the people think /want..... go go trumper ...at least it will be a laugh with him as pressie lol.......maybe we could have trumper and boris what a pair " Trump and Corbyn would be quite a special relationship! | |||
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"going back to trump and south carolina.... the trump victory is huge because of the way delegates are given.... of the 50 delegates available.... half goes to the winner.... then equal amounts to each of the 3 congressional districts... trump won everything!!!!! hillary will win south carolina next saturday..... and then onto super tuesday..... i think trump will basically win every super tuesday state on the republican side..... on the dem side.... i think you will see much more of a split... hillary winning the southern states, bernie winning mass, colorado, minnesota, oklahoma, vermont and virginia.... wanted to ask courtney a question... you voting in the "democrats abroad" primary...?" To be honest I've only started looking into how I'm supposed to vote from the UK. Any advice is welcome
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? " I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... | |||
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"going back to trump and south carolina.... the trump victory is huge because of the way delegates are given.... of the 50 delegates available.... half goes to the winner.... then equal amounts to each of the 3 congressional districts... trump won everything!!!!! hillary will win south carolina next saturday..... and then onto super tuesday..... i think trump will basically win every super tuesday state on the republican side..... on the dem side.... i think you will see much more of a split... hillary winning the southern states, bernie winning mass, colorado, minnesota, oklahoma, vermont and virginia.... wanted to ask courtney a question... you voting in the "democrats abroad" primary...?" . The split in the democrat voting is very interesting over 55s favour Hillary by about 15% where as under 30s favour Bernie by about 50% Hispanics voted Bernie about 70% But the black vote favoured Hillary by a mile!. I still think Hilary's email may yet come back to haunt her, that's if the fbi can get the balls to investigate her... | |||
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" To be honest I've only started looking into how I'm supposed to vote from the UK. Any advice is welcome
-Courtney "in the general election.... you can do it via postal voting... it does vary from state to state though....... I have never voted in the democrats abroad primary so that why i was asking... | |||
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" I still think Hilary's email may yet come back to haunt her, that's if the fbi can get the balls to investigate her... " I don't think the democratic base is so worried about the e-mails to be honest, i think the bigger issue is the wall street speeches.... do i want to know what was said now... i want to see what kind of speech $225,000 dollars buys...... | |||
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" To be honest I've only started looking into how I'm supposed to vote from the UK. Any advice is welcome
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in the general election.... you can do it via postal voting... it does vary from state to state though.......
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" I still think Hilary's email may yet come back to haunt her, that's if the fbi can get the balls to investigate her... I don't think the democratic base is so worried about the e-mails to be honest, i think the bigger issue is the wall street speeches.... do i want to know what was said now... i want to see what kind of speech $225,000 dollars buys......" . That's my point he's gotta hit her with!. Warren herself has harangued Janet yellen constantly because the banks were meant to show how they would sell bits off to fit in with federal reserve rules... And yellen has done nothing even though the banks own reports show there inept at resolving the issue themselves. If Bernie can get ticket moved on banking reform, then he wins even if he loses | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides..." I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... " . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money? | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money?" I know what you are saying, but they do need to understand a bit about economics. This is the kind of embarrassing drivel you get when you ask a champagne socialist hard questions about finances: https://youtu.be/uESSEyN7oEk It basically boils down to: - So how would you solve our debt crisis? - Ummm can't we just print money? | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money? I know what you are saying, but they do need to understand a bit about economics. This is the kind of embarrassing drivel you get when you ask a champagne socialist hard questions about finances: https://youtu.be/uESSEyN7oEk It basically boils down to: - So how would you solve our debt crisis? - Ummm can't we just print money? " . That's because they just don't want to admit that you can't help everyone with a handout but what you can do is give everyone a fair crack at the whip. And that just needs honesty and some common sense!. Did anyone stop to think bailing out them banks will cause havoc for fucking years, nope they just wanted to please the people who bribe them (bankers) and the people who vote for them (people with money in the bank)!. What they should have done and anyone with common sense would have done was broke that financial institution up and let the crazy wild speculation side go tits up and people who gave their money to the ponzi scheming nitwits to go belly up with them. Yes it would have been a year or two of pain but now eight years on, it would have been business as usual, instead were treading on egg shells just fucking praying that one don't break because if it does the whole pack of cards goes with it... That's what you get when you let your cronie mate regulate your industry... A fucking disaster | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money? I know what you are saying, but they do need to understand a bit about economics. This is the kind of embarrassing drivel you get when you ask a champagne socialist hard questions about finances: https://youtu.be/uESSEyN7oEk It basically boils down to: - So how would you solve our debt crisis? - Ummm can't we just print money? . That's because they just don't want to admit that you can't help everyone with a handout but what you can do is give everyone a fair crack at the whip. And that just needs honesty and some common sense!. Did anyone stop to think bailing out them banks will cause havoc for fucking years, nope they just wanted to please the people who bribe them (bankers) and the people who vote for them (people with money in the bank)!. What they should have done and anyone with common sense would have done was broke that financial institution up and let the crazy wild speculation side go tits up and people who gave their money to the ponzi scheming nitwits to go belly up with them. Yes it would have been a year or two of pain but now eight years on, it would have been business as usual, instead were treading on egg shells just fucking praying that one don't break because if it does the whole pack of cards goes with it... That's what you get when you let your cronie mate regulate your industry... A fucking disaster "And in America, the person who signed that system into law has the surname "clinton" (financial services modernization act) | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money? I know what you are saying, but they do need to understand a bit about economics. This is the kind of embarrassing drivel you get when you ask a champagne socialist hard questions about finances: https://youtu.be/uESSEyN7oEk It basically boils down to: - So how would you solve our debt crisis? - Ummm can't we just print money? . That's because they just don't want to admit that you can't help everyone with a handout but what you can do is give everyone a fair crack at the whip. And that just needs honesty and some common sense!. Did anyone stop to think bailing out them banks will cause havoc for fucking years, nope they just wanted to please the people who bribe them (bankers) and the people who vote for them (people with money in the bank)!. What they should have done and anyone with common sense would have done was broke that financial institution up and let the crazy wild speculation side go tits up and people who gave their money to the ponzi scheming nitwits to go belly up with them. Yes it would have been a year or two of pain but now eight years on, it would have been business as usual, instead were treading on egg shells just fucking praying that one don't break because if it does the whole pack of cards goes with it... That's what you get when you let your cronie mate regulate your industry... A fucking disaster
And in America, the person who signed that system into law has the surname "clinton" (financial services modernization act) ". No arguments there, Clinton was just jumping on the bandwagon that was started by Ronald Regan. Deindustrialize and live of finance,yeah we can be the middle management of the world, letting poor people build our iPhones and cars while we live fat on the hogs belly... Sure you'll get your phone and your car cheap... You just won't have any well paid jobs left to afford them but don't worry you can all become rentiers or live of your every increasing house price while doing some shit job in Walmart... Here get a 150k dollar debt with your college degree and a job paying 25k .. Sure don't look at the small print, don't look that were spending trillions on defence despite having no real enemies, don't look that we've cut top tax's by 50% while yours have gone up 20%, don't look that we've sold all your infrastructure off for billions to private companies who are now poisoning your water supply because we took fat fucking bribes of them to change the regulations!.... Don't look just drink your beer and watch this fucking wank TV show about how a millionaire could help you out of your work hard or marry you if your pretty enough or filthy enough, spend 20% of your income on this lottery ticket and watch this news article about how dangerous Putin is or how lucky you are to be born in the usa land of the free and home to the biggest wealth inequality in the western world... That's the dream were selling you.... And you wonder why Bernie is getting voted for? | |||
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" Between Bernie and Hillary, I can actually now see why democrats go so excited about Obama in 2008. Are these honestly the best two the party has to offer??? I like bernie and my opinion of him has gone up loads for running such a positive campaign.... it feels like bernie is saying we can aim for so much more.. and hillary is the one saying pump the brakes... the clintons only know one way... attack which is why you see a lot of the negative stuff from them and their surrogates.... the one name you will keep hearing is elizabeth warren who is the darling of the progressive left.... and you will hear her name come up alot in VP talk as the one person whoever wins will appease both sides... I dislike Hillary due to her distinct lack of achievements. Bernie sounds like Corbyn in the sense of another career politician, with absolutely zero achievements outside politics, basically unemployable and definately not an entrepreneur. If that's who the American people want then they are welcome to him. I just have a distinct prejudice against career politicans which basically leaves a choice between Farage or Boris Johnson... . Politicans don't technically need to be entrepreneurs or even business orientated... Just honest for starters. All the talk of making it easy for "businesses" just makes them fucking lazy, there meant to benefit human evolution, we give them problems and they solve them for the benefit of us all... How do we live a good life but no wreck the environment... Here business go do it. How do we have stuff but work less.. Here business go do it... It's essentially incentive based problem solving. The modern notion is how do we stop asking business problems so they can just keep making money? I know what you are saying, but they do need to understand a bit about economics. This is the kind of embarrassing drivel you get when you ask a champagne socialist hard questions about finances: https://youtu.be/uESSEyN7oEk It basically boils down to: - So how would you solve our debt crisis? - Ummm can't we just print money? . That's because they just don't want to admit that you can't help everyone with a handout but what you can do is give everyone a fair crack at the whip. And that just needs honesty and some common sense!. Did anyone stop to think bailing out them banks will cause havoc for fucking years, nope they just wanted to please the people who bribe them (bankers) and the people who vote for them (people with money in the bank)!. What they should have done and anyone with common sense would have done was broke that financial institution up and let the crazy wild speculation side go tits up and people who gave their money to the ponzi scheming nitwits to go belly up with them. Yes it would have been a year or two of pain but now eight years on, it would have been business as usual, instead were treading on egg shells just fucking praying that one don't break because if it does the whole pack of cards goes with it... That's what you get when you let your cronie mate regulate your industry... A fucking disaster
And in America, the person who signed that system into law has the surname "clinton" (financial services modernization act) .
No arguments there, Clinton was just jumping on the bandwagon that was started by Ronald Regan.
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? " . He's putting another option on the table that nobody in the US has had since FDR. If were gonna spend trillions bailing out capitalism when it goes wrong, let's spend it creating jobs to build infrastructure that in twenty or thirty years time pay you back the money you spent with productivity gains, unlike banks that just threaten to up and go some place else if you ask for a bigger tax take. I don't know whether he's left or right to be honest but it sounds a damned site better than what they've had for the last 35 years! I've always said I think university places should be free, if just limit them to the best results going... There's your incentive, get good results go to uni free. That encourages our brightest to stay here working and being productive, you could probably tax them a little bit more as well because they wouldn't have the massive debt to pay and you could probably pay them a little less for the same reason which means companies would benefit from bright workers with good degrees in relevant subjects... And if we stopped fucking around making house prices go up constantly they could afford a reasonable house on a reasonable wage... Another great incentive for businesses to come!. Is that left or right I don't know, it just sounds sensible to me | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? . He's putting another option on the table that nobody in the US has had since FDR. If were gonna spend trillions bailing out capitalism when it goes wrong" Real capitalism doesn't bail out banks. Shame he's not talking about giving americans 25 days annual leave instead of the 10 they currently get... | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? . He's putting another option on the table that nobody in the US has had since FDR. If were gonna spend trillions bailing out capitalism when it goes wrong Real capitalism doesn't bail out banks. Shame he's not talking about giving americans 25 days annual leave instead of the 10 they currently get... " . Real capitalism ended in august 71! | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? " but do you know what fair shar of taxes actually meant.... all bernie is going to is add 3 levels... 37%, 45% and 52%.... and to be paying 52% you would need to be earning more than 10 million dollars....... thats not really that radical... its radical for the us... but for most european countries... we would shrug! so he wants free university tuition... cool...i don't see where that is radical.... he wants a single payer medicare system.... cool... we have one of those... its called the NHS!!!!! he wants to raise the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour by 2020.... thats only about a quid more than in today conservative national living wage.... he wan't to spend money on infrustrure projects.... which would get people jobs, which would get people less dependant and spending money.... he believes in trickle up rather than trickle down.... there is nothing economically radical about what he is proposing.... | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? but do you know what fair shar of taxes actually meant.... all bernie is going to is add 3 levels... 37%, 45% and 52%.... and to be paying 52% you would need to be earning more than 10 million dollars....... thats not really that radical... its radical for the us... but for most european countries... we would shrug! so he wants free university tuition... cool...i don't see where that is radical.... he wants a single payer medicare system.... cool... we have one of those... its called the NHS!!!!! he wants to raise the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour by 2020.... thats only about a quid more than in today conservative national living wage.... he wan't to spend money on infrustrure projects.... which would get people jobs, which would get people less dependant and spending money.... he believes in trickle up rather than trickle down.... there is nothing economically radical about what he is proposing...." Hence why I said he seemed right of Corbyn - it was a compliment... | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? . He's putting another option on the table that nobody in the US has had since FDR. If were gonna spend trillions bailing out capitalism when it goes wrong Real capitalism doesn't bail out banks. Shame he's not talking about giving americans 25 days annual leave instead of the 10 they currently get... " but he is talking about finally giving people paid materity leave..... which is again being called radical, but living here its the least bit radical at all | |||
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"Just read Bernie's website, if you cut through the drivel phrases like "fair share in taxes" and misquoting a census bureau report - he still sounds like he's to the right of Corbyn??? . He's putting another option on the table that nobody in the US has had since FDR. If were gonna spend trillions bailing out capitalism when it goes wrong Real capitalism doesn't bail out banks. Shame he's not talking about giving americans 25 days annual leave instead of the 10 they currently get... but he is talking about finally giving people paid materity leave..... which is again being called radical, but living here its the least bit radical at all" It's not really his social values I'd question, everyone loves a nice dose of socialism, the question is how you pay for it... His stance towards China is questionable too in my opinion. But selfishly I hope he does piss them off, it will be better for us - divide and rule | |||
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"Hill dog is top of the betting markets... with trump second... how depressing. So the choice is between a cunt and someone whose greatest achievement is being born with a cunt. " trump will have the republican nomination sown up way before clinton will on the democratic side.... and the republican execs who made the change now hate why.... on the dem side.. all primaries/caucus' are split on PR grounds... which means even when bernie doesn't win a state... but comes close (like iowa or nevada) he only loses a couple of delegates less that hilary (in iowa they were equally spit.. and in nevada he only ended with 2 less delegates than hilary.... thats why superdelegates mean so much) on the republican side they start of as in effect PR (except South Carolina which had special rules which allowed trump to clean up) however any state from march 15th onwards becomes winner takes all....(winner takes all the delegates) which means at this rate by the 2nd super tuesday, trump could have it all but finished.... the problem is democrats who like bernie aren't going to bit their lip and vote for trump over clinton.... whereas i know a fair few republican friends who would bit their lip and vote clinton over trump and come back and have another bite in 4 years time..... | |||
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"Hill dog is top of the betting markets... with trump second... how depressing. So the choice is between a cunt and someone whose greatest achievement is being born with a cunt. trump will have the republican nomination sown up way before clinton will on the democratic side.... and the republican execs who made the change now hate why.... on the dem side.. all primaries/caucus' are split on PR grounds... which means even when bernie doesn't win a state... but comes close (like iowa or nevada) he only loses a couple of delegates less that hilary (in iowa they were equally spit.. and in nevada he only ended with 2 less delegates than hilary.... thats why superdelegates mean so much) on the republican side they start of as in effect PR (except South Carolina which had special rules which allowed trump to clean up) however any state from march 15th onwards becomes winner takes all....(winner takes all the delegates) which means at this rate by the 2nd super tuesday, trump could have it all but finished.... the problem is democrats who like bernie aren't going to bit their lip and vote for trump over clinton.... whereas i know a fair few republican friends who would bit their lip and vote clinton over trump and come back and have another bite in 4 years time....." Honestly, if I was voting and it was an option I'd just say "ahh fuck it, just give Obama another 4 years" and that's not a compliment to Obama... | |||
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"Personally I think and hope! Bernie will win the nomination. Trump will probably win the Republican side unless Cruz does something outstanding. Here's my thinking though, I think sanders would beat trump easily!. But I have a sneaky suspicion that Hillary will blow it against trump!... She's got too much baggage that trump will throw at her and by the end, she'll end up looking like the wall st stooge!. Americas had it up it's necks in corrupt politics, that's how Bernie's made the inward progress and it's exactly why trump had as well (only he uses the line that he's self financed) but it's still that honest politican there looking for... It's exactly the same as the EU referendum, farage just has that straight up kinda honest shit going that people will buy into. Sanders and corbyn are conviction politicans you can disagree with them(and I do on many things) but you know what you see is what you get!. Blair was the great left wing actor (he had me fooled for a year) a bit like Clinton, you know there going to rob you blind like the right but at least you know they won't be utterly cuntish like Cruz or rubio. I still haven't made up my mind about trump, he'll definitely rob you blind, I'm just not sure for all his rhetoric he'll follow through on any of it" Tony granted independence to the Monetary Policy Committee which I think was the right thing to do and took a lot of balls. I guess sometimes Turkeys do vote for Christmas. He also bought in the freedom of information act which I know you like and I do too (although he later regretted it). He just got a bit of a taste for wars is all, easy mistake to make of you play call of duty too much. | |||
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"I'm starting too get a bad feeling about this..... "if you are feeling bad now.... next tuesday night may have you walking off a ledge....... and then dems have to say with all honesty who has a better change of beating trump in november.... clinton or sanders... enough people hate the word clinton that the answer may actually be sanders.... the latest poll from 538 and the huff post shows that in the general trump beats clinton, but sanders beats trump | |||
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"I'm starting too get a bad feeling about this.....
if you are feeling bad now.... next tuesday night may have you walking off a ledge.......
and then dems have to say with all honesty who has a better change of beating trump in november.... clinton or sanders...
enough people hate the word clinton that the answer may actually be sanders....
the latest poll from 538 and the huff post shows that in the general trump beats clinton, but sanders beats trump"Fabio if you had to make a prediction right now..... what's your hunch?...... who is the next president of the USA... | |||
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" Fabio if you had to make a prediction right now..... what's your hunch?...... who is the next president of the USA... "can i say just to start.. that i can absolutely see a way where sanders will win the popular vote on the dem side, but clinton will win the nomination due to having the super delegates.... if you were to ask me now.... i would say clinton.. close....very close the thing that really really worries me are that trump and the republicans are going to have an absolute field day and making a sport of attacking clinton for months in the run up to a general election..... whereas they would have a much much harder time attacking sanders..... | |||
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" Fabio if you had to make a prediction right now..... what's your hunch?...... who is the next president of the USA...
can i say just to start.. that i can absolutely see a way where sanders will win the popular vote on the dem side, but clinton will win the nomination due to having the super delegates....
if you were to ask me now.... i would say clinton.. close....very close
the thing that really really worries me are that trump and the republicans are going to have an absolute field day and making a sport of attacking clinton for months in the run up to a general election..... whereas they would have a much much harder time attacking sanders....."Yikes Fabio.... that close eh!..... We never have this problem predicting Eurovison ....... | |||
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" Yikes Fabio.... that close eh!..... We never have this problem predicting Eurovison ....... "trump cant say anything wrong the the republican base at the moment... i figure when everyones listening if he continues to do that during the general the media will crush him...... what worries me about clinton is that the republicans have had 4 years to plan for attacking clint and they bring everything up from benghazi to the emails to wall street and for as polarising trump is, clinton may not actually be that far behind... | |||
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The democrats will crush him but it will be entertaining until the end.
Can you imagine a debate with clinton or sanders talking policy while trump just says "we're gunna make America great again" over and over??
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" Yikes Fabio.... that close eh!..... We never have this problem predicting Eurovison .......
trump cant say anything wrong the the republican base at the moment... i figure when everyones listening if he continues to do that during the general the media will crush him......
what worries me about clinton is that the republicans have had 4 years to plan for attacking clint and they bring everything up from benghazi to the emails to wall street and for as polarising trump is, clinton may not actually be that far behind..."For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders..... | |||
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" Can you imagine a debate with clinton or sanders talking policy while trump just says "we're gunna make America great again" over and over?? " Like this: https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg ? You forgot other such meaningful phrases as "I know everybody" and "I know how to get things done". | |||
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" For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders..... "My sentiments exactly. But you could say that about this country too, if you're looking for good female politicans. I like liz kendal but she's getting nowhere as her curse for being sensible. So then we're left with crazies like dianne abbot. In the blue corner you have Theresa May who has a very similar thought pattern to Trump, but just enough common sense to dress it up better. | |||
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" Can you imagine a debate with clinton or sanders talking policy while trump just says "we're gunna make America great again" over and over?? Like this: https://youtu.be/rSFZktZNySg ? You forgot other such meaningful phrases as "I know everybody" and "I know how to get things done"." 
Trump on any subject: "I know how to negotiate. I know people! Now, c'mon, it's the truth! You people don't know how to get things done - I get things done. We're gunna make America great again. Pfft"
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" For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders.....
My sentiments exactly. But you could say that about this country too, if you're looking for good female politicans. I like liz kendal but she's getting nowhere as her curse for being sensible. So then we're left with crazies like dianne abbot. In the blue corner you have Theresa May who has a very similar thought pattern to Trump, but just enough common sense to dress it up better. "I guess those of us who don't put ourselves forward must accept compromise ..... I wouldn't want the job..... even though I'd probably agree with every decision I made .... | |||
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" For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders.....
My sentiments exactly. But you could say that about this country too, if you're looking for good female politicans. I like liz kendal but she's getting nowhere as her curse for being sensible. So then we're left with crazies like dianne abbot. In the blue corner you have Theresa May who has a very similar thought pattern to Trump, but just enough common sense to dress it up better.
I guess those of us who don't put ourselves forward must accept compromise .....
"I don't see it as them putting themselves forward for anything than a public job interview. Division of labour is a cornerstone of our economic system. I don't have to train as a doctor myself to expect good care when I go to hospital. I do my own job well and they should too. | |||
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" For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders.....
My sentiments exactly. But you could say that about this country too, if you're looking for good female politicans. I like liz kendal but she's getting nowhere as her curse for being sensible. So then we're left with crazies like dianne abbot. In the blue corner you have Theresa May who has a very similar thought pattern to Trump, but just enough common sense to dress it up better.
I guess those of us who don't put ourselves forward must accept compromise .....
I don't see it as them putting themselves forward for anything than a public job interview.
Division of labour is a cornerstone of our economic system. I don't have to train as a doctor myself to expect good care when I go to hospital. I do my own job well and they should too."Like many people .... I'm sure they think they are doing a good job... | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. " What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. | |||
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" For an outsider like me it looks like the choice on offer is more a case of damage limitation than being allowed to select the right person for the right reasons...... Surely a country with a population the size of the USA must be able to produce a more credible candidate than the main contenders.....
My sentiments exactly. But you could say that about this country too, if you're looking for good female politicans. I like liz kendal but she's getting nowhere as her curse for being sensible. So then we're left with crazies like dianne abbot. In the blue corner you have Theresa May who has a very similar thought pattern to Trump, but just enough common sense to dress it up better.
I guess those of us who don't put ourselves forward must accept compromise .....
I don't see it as them putting themselves forward for anything than a public job interview.
Division of labour is a cornerstone of our economic system. I don't have to train as a doctor myself to expect good care when I go to hospital. I do my own job well and they should too.
Like many people .... I'm sure they think they are doing a good job...
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" Yikes Fabio.... that close eh!..... We never have this problem predicting Eurovison .......
trump cant say anything wrong the the republican base at the moment... i figure when everyones listening if he continues to do that during the general the media will crush him......
what worries me about clinton is that the republicans have had 4 years to plan for attacking clint and they bring everything up from benghazi to the emails to wall street and for as polarising trump is, clinton may not actually be that far behind...". Yeah we're in agreement! His motto should now be vote sanders or get trumped on .
Sanders rebuttals are just great..
When Hillary laid into him for calling parts of Obamas presidency trying to make him out anti Obama..
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. " Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job. | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job."Or perhaps because her husband's name is Bill Clinton?  | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job.
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job.
Or perhaps because her husband's name is Bill Clinton?
Do we reckon he has a big influence then? I don't know much about the details of US politics. Does Bill pull some strings for her then?"Well he's out on the campaign trail making speeches for her - raising money. I wonder what the last indipendent speech bernie's wife made for him was...and why the US media didn't cover it if it even happened | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job.
Or perhaps because her husband's name is Bill Clinton?
Do we reckon he has a big influence then? I don't know much about the details of US politics. Does Bill pull some strings for her then?
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"bill is going to end up being the "attack dog" for hillary, that she can't seen to be.... and when that happens watch donald go in and absolutely try to crush bill.... we have seen it happy... jeb gets bush family involved... donald attacks bush family and their legacy..... you think he wont do the same here!!!! " True. But I think Bill would crush Trump. And Trump has to go a bit easier on Hillary because he is already seen as sexist... | |||
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"yea your totally right there but personally I think Donald may actually be the next President and that is a horrific idea and if he does we need the whoile world to be anti trump from antifa and street activists too Cameron and other worldleaders and we and them need to not only say on the streets or for the press that we disagree with him but need to actually protest and reject his views totally" they may well absolutely want that..... but no one is going to be overtly seen doing that (watch for a possible clinton/sanders tour of europe based on "wanting to get to know the candidate better" excuse!!!) as they are not going to want to be seen as interfering in an internal affair... plus if it did go wrong.. then what?? | |||
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"because sanders is such a "conviction" politican the type of attacks trump likes to play would not work on bernie..... you think trump isn't looking forward to attacking both hillary and bill???? if hillary released the transcripts... and managed to ride out the negative to beat sanders i'd feel a lot more comfortable... but whilst she is playing defensive, its makes me really worried....... " . I don't mind conviction politicans right or left, don't get me wrong bush and Reagan were complete numptys but people like Ron Paul, yeah he doesn't think like I do on some subjects but at least you know he just thinks his way is better, there's no nastyness just for the sake of it. I don't mind Hillary winning I honestly think she'll be a good President, I just don't think she'll be very progressive where it counts and I think she'll struggle against trump more than people think, I mean that guys just thrashed them in Nevada and Nevada has a substantial Latino population, he actually polls much better with black women than most people think, Hillary certainly won't walk it | |||
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"Camoron and others in parliament have openly stated Trump is wrong and i believe politicians elsewhere have said similar and there is quite a few far left out there that can see they need to reject Trump even if they are in other countries such as here it's trying to get the message across before the election and its too late to stop him. " but there is a huge difference between being critical of certain comments (the ones about police being scared to go into parts of london, and the banning muslims comment) and going outright and campaigning against people..... | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job.
Or perhaps because her husband's name is Bill Clinton?
Do we reckon he has a big influence then? I don't know much about the details of US politics. Does Bill pull some strings for her then?
Well he's out on the campaign trail making speeches for her - raising money. I wonder what the last indipendent speech bernie's wife made for him was...and why the US media didn't cover it if it even happened
Well when you put it like that then you may have a point. It never ceases to amaze me how popular Bill is over there (and pretty much everywhere). If a British Prime Minister had done what he did he never would have been seen again"I know right, it's like people don't realise that he was the president to sign into law the financial services modernization act or something!! | |||
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"What I'm finding most interesting about this whole contest now is that whoever ultimately gets in, it's going to make for compelling viewing. Personally, I'd love to see Hillary get in. First woman and all that. What's good for women is to achieve things on merit, not getting sympathy votes. Maggie never played that card and whether anyone likes her or not, she got there by outright dominating her competition. Totally agree. Was simply pointing out the fact she would be the first woman president of she won. If she gets there then it would no doubt be on merit and because she was seen as the best person for the job.
Or perhaps because her husband's name is Bill Clinton?
Do we reckon he has a big influence then? I don't know much about the details of US politics. Does Bill pull some strings for her then?
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"if bernie wins vermont, minnesota, colorado, oklahoma and Massachusetts and it ends up being a 6-5 state split... thats a good night... because the next few on the list (maine, kansas and nebraska) set up really well for sanders.... then the michigan primary is next tuesday and sanders believes he can win that..... so courtney ... have you voted in the democratic abroad primary yet.... i did mine today" Not quite yet. I have to get on it. 
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"super tuesday results in..... on the republican side there was going to be pressure on enough people to pull out to make it a trump vs "anyone" one on one race.... aint happening..... Trump won 7 states..... Cruz won 3 and Rubio won 1..... which means the big 3 are going nowhere which is going to help trump.... pressure is now going to fall on kasich to go... but he is going to do well in the midwest and ben carson will go on the democratic side... clinton won 7, sanders won 4.... the big win for clinton over sanders was in Massachusetts, however only by 0.2%, so a virtual tie and the delegates will be split down the middle the next couple of states are favoured towards sanders, (maine, nebraska and kansas).... the next big clash is going to be michigan (my semi home state) next tuesday... and that will be close" . Yeah I just got through saying the same thing... Massachusetts grrrr 5-6 would have sounded a lot better, even though the difference would have been minimal!. Bernie's getting hammered on the black vote in the southern states and that's where he needs to do something | |||
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"since part 1 is full.... and continue... so where are we..... two left of the dem side (bernie sanders and hillary clinton) 6 left on the republican side.... Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and for the time being Ben Carson " unfortunately both sides have the same agenda so it don't really matter who wins it will still turn out the same way in the end the American elections are a croc of shit like fox news just look at bush senior and g.w.bush and even Obama I mean really all they done was violate the constitution and human rights dropped bombs on millions of innocent people over oil and used wmd and terrorism and a just couse America is a dictatorship not just to us citizens but to the hole world its hitler on steroids none of the candidates should be voted in the same as the UK the people should have the power not just a few of us | |||
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" Yeah I just got through saying the same thing... Massachusetts grrrr 5-6 would have sounded a lot better, even though the difference would have been minimal!. Bernie's getting hammered on the black vote in the southern states and that's where he needs to do something" I think this is where tactically they sanders camp have made their first mistake of this campaign... i believe that both virginia and Tennessee would have been winable... but they put no money into those states and concentrated on those 5.... i think clinton was suprised especially afte the op-ed pieces written by elizabeth warren which could have written by sanders.... i think sanders wins maine,kansas and nebraska... clinton wins louisana.... then debate in michigan on sunday night before the 1st big midwest primary on tuesday... i think you will find the blacks down south and the black people in the midwest/northeast are different people it was bernie that brought up the flint crisis first... and clinton jumped on... i don't think you'll see clinton hug obama so much in a debate in michigan as you would in south carolina if he does well there... you can see him winning wisconsin, and illinois, and indiana, and ohio and pennsylvania | |||
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" Yeah I just got through saying the same thing... Massachusetts grrrr 5-6 would have sounded a lot better, even though the difference would have been minimal!. Bernie's getting hammered on the black vote in the southern states and that's where he needs to do something I think this is where tactically they sanders camp have made their first mistake of this campaign... i believe that both virginia and Tennessee would have been winable... but they put no money into those states and concentrated on those 5.... i think clinton was suprised especially afte the op-ed pieces written by elizabeth warren which could have written by sanders.... i think sanders wins maine,kansas and nebraska... clinton wins louisana.... then debate in michigan on sunday night before the 1st big midwest primary on tuesday... i think you will find the blacks down south and the black people in the midwest/northeast are different people it was bernie that brought up the flint crisis first... and clinton jumped on... i don't think you'll see clinton hug obama so much in a debate in michigan as you would in south carolina if he does well there... you can see him winning wisconsin, and illinois, and indiana, and ohio and pennsylvania" . Mmm that's a very interesting insight, I think Clinton's pr machine is formidable, I mean it manages to spin it that the guy who's fought for civil rights, gay rights, gay marriage, sex equality for decades is somehow less caring than Clinton!. On a side note the flint water scandal is waiting to explode on a national scale across the US. I don't think people are quite aware of how widescale the THMs thing is, it's multi state!. Which gets back to Bernie's point of the necessity of widescale infrastructure rebuild in the USA! | |||
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"And another one bites the dust!!
Carson is out!"can't say i'll miss him..... mind you the trevor noah bits about him on the daily show... the dude may have been a neurosurgeon.... but listening to him speak i think if he was doing my operation, i'd be scared shitless.... | |||
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"what a choice old trumper/hair bear....or old Hillary who I think is judy finnigan in disguise....all the loud mouth fat bastard americans deserve...still what a pair....maybe old trumper will start stoking it arrrr" The loud mouth fat bastard Americans, indeed. | |||
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"And another one bites the dust!!
Carson is out!
can't say i'll miss him..... mind you the trevor noah bits about him on the daily show...
the dude may have been a neurosurgeon.... but listening to him speak i think if he was doing my operation, i'd be scared shitless.... ". The one thing about the Republicans is that for comedy writers there gold dust | |||
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"Ted Cruz is doing much better than I expected. I wonder how many of his votes are anti-Trump? He didn't seem to be an expected winner in Maine. " cruz does much better in caucus states like sanders because his "get out the vote at a specific time operation" is as good as it gets.... i expect sanders to win the dem maine caucus today..... the michigan debate tonight... and the the michigan primary (my university home state) on tuesday.... one thing to look out for if it is really really close, michigan has more many big universities than most states (UM, MSU, Central, Western, Eastern, Grand Valley) they are all on spring break.... that is a huge base of the sanders support.... | |||
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"Ted Cruz is doing much better than I expected. I wonder how many of his votes are anti-Trump? He didn't seem to be an expected winner in Maine. cruz does much better in caucus states like sanders because his "get out the vote at a specific time operation" is as good as it gets.... i expect sanders to win the dem maine caucus today..... the michigan debate tonight... and the the michigan primary (my university home state) on tuesday.... one thing to look out for if it is really really close, michigan has more many big universities than most states (UM, MSU, Central, Western, Eastern, Grand Valley) they are all on spring break.... that is a huge base of the sanders support.... " I've read quite a bit of feed about the animosity between Clinton and Sanders supporters. Whoever the Dem nomination is - they all better get behind the candidate, they'll need to rock the vote 2008 style. | |||
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"I don't know much about politics and all that crap, but I'd love it if trump won because everyone seems to hate him." You quite sure about that ? So in a stand off between the US and Russia, which one will blink first pyscho Putin or airhead Trump, think long and hard as the consequences will be serious for all of us whether we are American or not | |||
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" I've read quite a bit of feed about the animosity between Clinton and Sanders supporters. Whoever the Dem nomination is - they all better get behind the candidate, they'll need to rock the vote 2008 style. " idon't think there is that much animosity between the sanders and clinton sides.... it feels like sanders has the support of the young and the working class white men.... clinton has women, older voters and minorities, and they have enough agreement that you don't have the huge clashes as you do in the republican debates..... i think what you have is a difference between the progressive wing, and the establishment wing..... the ones who want to continue the path of obama's terms... and the ones who want to go further and beyond.... the fact that sanders has pulled clinton to have to go to the left isn't the worst thing in the world, but she looks very uncomfortable with it..... the one unifying name you are going to hear out there is elizabeth warren.......who has kept fairly silent in this race, and her endorsement would be a huge one! she would be almost the perfect VP for either sanders or clinton, but you get the feeling that clinton and warren aren't the best of pals...... | |||
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"Ted Cruz is doing much better than I expected. I wonder how many of his votes are anti-Trump? He didn't seem to be an expected winner in Maine. " . The biggest problem facing the world today is climate change and the only candidate willing to face it is Bernie sanders. Everything else is just small print, it's the kinda stuff that man4you and others get in broiled in long arguments over. It's bollocks,it's title tattle, it's left v right.... One candidate out of 14 realises the problem that faces the human race and he is apparently unelectable. That says everything The problem with society who thinks like you do that rights are somehow connected to financial growth, there not, rights come from a shift in societal thinking, it's got nothing to do with growth. Anybody that's ever studied closely climate change will tell you, were not getting out of it with growth, all this bollocks about Europe providing us with growth and legislation laws, it's like listening to trump declaring building a wall to solve something like immigration. You can't solve climate change with growth and you can't solve immigration with walls but you might be able to solve both problems if you actually tackle the subject head on!. Those that tell you otherwise are being dishonest or just are completely unaware of realities! | |||
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"I think last nights democratic debate was really really good.... such a contrast to the republicans.... substantive debate without the insults hillary had a not bad night.... bernie have a brilliant night!" And she didn't ask how big his dick was. | |||
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