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straight men that do femanine things
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I had a conversation with my daughter yesterday where she told me that I care more about shoes and bags than she dose, this is true, I do like a man bag, and I have quite a substantial shoe collection, in fact she went as far as to say that our relationship is like freak Friday lol
Are there any other straight men (not including transvestites who identify as straight) who have hobbys or interests that are considered feminine? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Society is too concerned with attaching gender to everything. Bags and shoes, they're just adornments that can be used to express how you feel something.
In the same way, society then confuses gender with sexuality. Why would having feminine expression (if you had that) make you something other than straight? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok I wasn't trying to get into a debate about gender or sexuality, although it might have sounded like it was, I also like to sew, and I have a very keen interest in interior design, I like baking, and I enjoy shopping too.
These are all things that would gave been considered feminine in say my dads era, but I find more and more men are owning sewing machines, and I was just wondering how many other guys were into these kind of hobbies.
By apologies for not explaining myself properly, and no offence was meant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"By apologies for not explaining myself properly, and no offence was meant."
None was taken 
I was just trying to point out how gender is defined by who you feel you are, not the clothes you wear or the interests you follow. By removing societal constructs, we can be freer to explore who we are instead of having to conform. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok I'm.obviously not getting across the question I was trying to ask and there is a risk if this turning into a gender stereotyping thread, which it was never intended to be, once I can find the correct wording for what I was trying to convey then I'll re post |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I constantly think I'm too 'masculine', for burping loudly and taking great pleasure in shooting zombies, cooking (which, unlike baking, I have always seen as a very male dominated field - lots of pro chefs are male etc). I'm very blunt and not 'ladylike' (but what does that even mean?). I'm not afraid to stand up for what I believe in, and I'm hardly demure and elegant.
Gender is a social construct, if you enjoy what you do, keep doing it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Do you like painting your nails and wearing makeup aswell?  "
No but I did get quite good at painting my exes nails and straightening her hair before she went out |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Go easy on the op.... seriously.
I multi task. I make a cuppa and butter a bagel and same time"
Cheers mate
I multitask too, I can.operate a computer and wank st the same time LOL |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Let's just say you were asking if heterosexual men throw out the traditional norms of how they should act, look and behave etc. Instead they do what they want, regardless of what it makes them come across as.
It's amazing how many men will deny certain things they do, due to the societal label attached. Like fake tanning, moisturising, getting eyebrows done, wearing make up etc. However, due to how the media portray what a "man" is, this is becoming the norm for a man. But if a man wishes to do anything that is seen unmanly then whoare we to judge, the only reason we act they way we do is because it's how we've been socialised to do so.
A man farting in public would be laughed about, but if a woman were to do so, then she'd be frowned at and told it wasn't ladylike. |
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"Ok I'm.obviously not getting across the question I was trying to ask and there is a risk if this turning into a gender stereotyping thread, which it was never intended to be, once I can find the correct wording for what I was trying to convey then I'll re post"
Saying one thing, but meaning another?
Omg, that's soooo like a woman!
I got married in a skirt with a man-bag slung round my waist if that counts? (The little sgian-dubh prevents too many disparaging comments)
Plus I love to cook
Mr ddc |
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I have a man-bag (practical and looks good), I'm a great cook (honestly!) but that was dictated by mum dying early so we had to learn fast, I try to be smart and sometimes wear pink shirts/ties. The result is that I have the piss taken constantly for my "gayness" by some oh-so-macho work colleagues. The day I mentioned using moisturiser was also a red-letter day in me tacitly declaring what a fag I really am. It's 95% funny but sometimes I genuinely could throttle these people! |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
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"Ok I'm.obviously not getting across the question I was trying to ask and there is a risk if this turning into a gender stereotyping thread, which it was never intended to be, once I can find the correct wording for what I was trying to convey then I'll re post"
I think I know what you're trying to ask or convey. In the final analysis just ask yourself "does it really matter?" The answer is no, it doesn't. If it doesn't upset others then just do what pleases you and sod what people think about gender. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I have a man-bag (practical and looks good), I'm a great cook (honestly!) but that was dictated by mum dying early so we had to learn fast, I try to be smart and sometimes wear pink shirts/ties. The result is that I have the piss taken constantly for my "gayness" by some oh-so-macho work colleagues. The day I mentioned using moisturiser was also a red-letter day in me tacitly declaring what a fag I really am. It's 95% funny but sometimes I genuinely could throttle these people! "
I have many man bags, they are practical and I hate carrying things, I also cook, fortunately for me not because of your circumstances but because my mother was a terrible cook, do I learned to cook out if self defence, and my daughter still finds it hilarious that I had to explain to her what a kitten heel was |
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How old is your daughter?
I know things where seen as traditionally female, cooking, sewing, that sort of thing.
But my son is 25 and has grown up with things being equal.
So I'm just surprised that hour daughter sees the things you describe as femine. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Let's just say you were asking if heterosexual men throw out the traditional norms of how they should act, look and behave etc. Instead they do what they want, regardless of what it makes them come across as.
It's amazing how many men will deny certain things they do, due to the societal label attached. Like fake tanning, moisturising, getting eyebrows done, wearing make up etc. However, due to how the media portray what a "man" is, this is becoming the norm for a man. But if a man wishes to do anything that is seen unmanly then whoare we to judge, the only reason we act they way we do is because it's how we've been socialised to do so.
A man farting in public would be laughed about, but if a woman were to do so, then she'd be frowned at and told it wasn't ladylike. "
Yes, let's say exactly that, and everyone can pretend I'm smart enough to have put it this way at the beginning lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How old is your daughter?
I know things where seen as traditionally female, cooking, sewing, that sort of thing.
But my son is 25 and has grown up with things being equal.
So I'm just surprised that hour daughter sees the things you describe as femine."
I think you would have to know the context in which it was said, it was both a comment on society and their gender views and our relationship and her sexuality, she is a very smart 15 year old, and I tell you, she could pick many of the arguments we see on the forums apart without having to break out Google, and I'm.proud to say she is a lot smarter than I am. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How old is your daughter?
I know things where seen as traditionally female, cooking, sewing, that sort of thing.
But my son is 25 and has grown up with things being equal.
So I'm just surprised that hour daughter sees the things you describe as femine.
I think you would have to know the context in which it was said, it was both a comment on society and their gender views and our relationship and her sexuality, she is a very smart 15 year old, and I tell you, she could pick many of the arguments we see on the forums apart without having to break out Google, and I'm.proud to say she is a lot smarter than I am."
See I said both when referring to three things.  |
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"How old is your daughter?
I know things where seen as traditionally female, cooking, sewing, that sort of thing.
But my son is 25 and has grown up with things being equal.
So I'm just surprised that hour daughter sees the things you describe as femine.
I think you would have to know the context in which it was said, it was both a comment on society and their gender views and our relationship and her sexuality, she is a very smart 15 year old, and I tell you, she could pick many of the arguments we see on the forums apart without having to break out Google, and I'm.proud to say she is a lot smarter than I am."
and where expected to know all that from what you wrote are we? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How old is your daughter?
I know things where seen as traditionally female, cooking, sewing, that sort of thing.
But my son is 25 and has grown up with things being equal.
So I'm just surprised that hour daughter sees the things you describe as femine.
I think you would have to know the context in which it was said, it was both a comment on society and their gender views and our relationship and her sexuality, she is a very smart 15 year old, and I tell you, she could pick many of the arguments we see on the forums apart without having to break out Google, and I'm.proud to say she is a lot smarter than I am.and where expected to know all that from what you wrote are we?"
No |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My eldest is 10 and is far from thinking things are equal. He won't participate in certain activities as "they're for girls", he won't wear certain things for the same reason. This isn't how I've raised him, but from what society as a whole has taught him. There will still be some parents that tell their child they aren't doing something, because it's for boys/girls. Will my son play with dolls? No, because he knows he will be mocked by. Friends. However, he had one when younger, but at 3 year's old other kids didn't care. |
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My partner likes cooking. I'm quite often assured that cooking at home is a woman's job. (However he is a qualified chef, so maybe he's cheffing when cooking for me?)
One of my best friends enjoys embroidery and quilting. He's treated like quite the novelty on forums.
I do photography as a career and I'm quite often reminded that it's still seen as a male hobby because it's technical. |
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"My partner likes cooking. I'm quite often assured that cooking at home is a woman's job. (However he is a qualified chef, so maybe he's cheffing when cooking for me?)
One of my best friends enjoys embroidery and quilting. He's treated like quite the novelty on forums.
I do photography as a career and I'm quite often reminded that it's still seen as a male hobby because it's technical."
I'm a member of a few crochet groups and cooking groups, one of the crochet groups is run by two men who write their own patterns, another frequently has men sharing their work and pics of boys learning the basics.
As for the cooking groups there are regular reminders from some of the members not to address questions to ladies as there are men on there too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My husband can spend more time on his pencil moustache than i take to shower, do my makeup, dry my hair and straighten it.
He has a huge shoe collection but hasnt quite caught up bag wise yet. He likes to shop and he is obsessed with his 'look' but then he is into vintage in big way.
I dont think its feminine more taking pride in his appearence...but i did call him a girl when he was borrowing my ghds and not giving them back 
Imagine what he was like with the handlebar... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My husband can spend more time on his pencil moustache than i take to shower, do my makeup, dry my hair and straighten it.
He has a huge shoe collection but hasnt quite caught up bag wise yet. He likes to shop and he is obsessed with his 'look' but then he is into vintage in big way.
I dont think its feminine more taking pride in his appearence...but i did call him a girl when he was borrowing my ghds and not giving them back
Imagine what he was like with the handlebar..."
Interestingly theres a lot of female stereotypes i dont fit. Shopping being one of them x |
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