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Are there songs that you think should be banned/avoided because of their content?
I'm not talking about one's with swear words in but songs like Delilah which is about domestic violence (he kills her) and which an MP is calling to be banned at rugby matches.
What about songs like Every Breath You Take or The Man Who Can't Be Moved which are basically stalking? |
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"Personal choice for me.
I think the songs you mention don't actually convey that message, which is why people sing them still?"
Every breath you take, every move you make I'll be watching you.
Hmm screams stalker to me!
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian. "
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium? |
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"Are there songs that you think should be banned/avoided because of their content?
I'm not talking about one's with swear words in but songs like Delilah which is about domestic violence (he kills her) and which an MP is calling to be banned at rugby matches.
What about songs like Every Breath You Take or The Man Who Can't Be Moved which are basically stalking?"
No.
Unless a song is actively encouraging people to do something horrendous, then it just telling a story.
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian.
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium?"
Do you ACTUALLY care about this? It seems trivial to me. I also can't think of anyone that considers domestic violence glamourised because of the song Delilah.
Also, the violence on the pitch may be worse than the imaginary violence in the words of a song. |
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No I don't. It's an interpretation of lyrics. Their not promoting anything.
Where would you draw the line. Some lyrics are very emotive people relate to them for all kinds of reasons. Do!we ban every song connected to domestic violence, suicide, murder. I can think of one popular 60s song that relates to underage sex.
Also I'm not sure when some of the songs where written but we might see things differently now to when the song was written. |
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian.
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium?
Do you ACTUALLY care about this? It seems trivial to me. I also can't think of anyone that considers domestic violence glamourised because of the song Delilah.
Also, the violence on the pitch may be worse than the imaginary violence in the words of a song. "
I'm curious about people's opinions. And also for any other well known songs that we all blithely sing along to without really knowing the meaning.
The hoohah has been started by an MP so it's possibly just his attention seeking under the guise of social responsibility. I'm curious to know if people really care. And yes, I may be playing devils advocate but it's a forum, that's the way it works. |
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian.
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium?"
She was fucking asking for it! She stood there laughing ! |
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian.
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium?
She was fucking asking for it! She stood there laughing !"
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Can I just add that Sting openly said the song was about stalking. The band were ven concerned about putting it out but decided to as it was a song highlighting the problem of stalking. It does not 'promote' it at all. Music is art and like all art it is created by people who interpret events and situations for us. Its up to us whether we listen. |
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Thankyou by jamelia is about domestic violence
Banks of the old ohia is about murdering her lover
Young girl about underage sex.
They where the first three to come into my head, God knows now many songs are connected to certain things.
The example you have op are no different to a million and one other songs
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Bohemian Rhapsody is about a man who kills another man and is going to be put to death for it, yet it constantly gets voted the best song ever etc etc.
A lot of songs have (not so) hidden messages. I just listen to music for music's sake. |
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In serious mode.
I see no harm in the song - AS a song.
Books , magazines, soap operas, plays.. all carry the same message.
HOWEVER.... A sport should pick a song that connects with their team or sport or sommat more fitting. |
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Have a drink have a drive, go out and see what you can find - mungo jerry
There ate loads if things that are a bit off by today standards. Romeo and Juliet, gang violence and suicide, lolita where Jeremy irons is basically behaving like a 70s tv presenter.
You should.never censor art, because once we start, it will never end. |
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"In serious mode.
I see no harm in the song - AS a song.
Books , magazines, soap operas, plays.. all carry the same message.
HOWEVER.... A sport should pick a song that connects with their team or sport or sommat more fitting. "
Oh Granny, not only are you witty you are wise! |
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"Thankyou by jamelia is about domestic violence
Banks of the old ohia is about murdering her lover
Young girl about underage sex.
They where the first three to come into my head, God knows now many songs are connected to certain things.
The example you have op are no different to a million and one other songs
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Gypsies, tramps and theives about being sold to men
Secret smile about a girls fanny
The list is endless |
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I've been for a remindey peek at the lyrics.
1) He's a peeping Tom.
2) He's posessive.
3) She's a cheater.
4) He went mental so can we blame him?
5) He admits she was a bad egg
6) He says he was enslaved.
7) He let the bloke drive off and didn't challenge him ... fkn coward.
8) She laughed at him so is guilty of goading.
9) If he had a knife was it premeditated ?
10 ) He does ask for forgiveness.. and indicates that his patience had reached it's upper limits.
11) Who called the 'they that is going to break down the door?'
It's a GREAT song.
Has a great moral lesson in there  |
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"In serious mode.
I see no harm in the song - AS a song.
Books , magazines, soap operas, plays.. all carry the same message.
HOWEVER.... A sport should pick a song that connects with their team or sport or sommat more fitting. "
I agree with some of that, in this case all I see is the welsh rugby team picking an iconic song by an iconic welsh singer.
I was just about to type maybe they should of chosen green green grass of home, then remembered it was aboit a murderer on death row. |
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More than words by extreme, its basically a bloke saying.g if you loved me you would do the dance with no pants with me.
Adele, someone like you.
"guess she gave you things, I didn't give to you" anal then yeah lol |
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Freedom of expression, it's a human right.
However parents need to take responsibility for their children and that can't happen by law unless you'd be happy without democracy. |
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"Music is art. Art shouldn't be censored, that's draconian.
Perhaps not censored, but surely we all make decisions about what is appropriate to certain situations. Is a song about a man who has violently killed his lover and blames her for it appropriate in a rugby stadium?"
No... but I doubt they are singing it because of the lyrical content.
Shit happens in life. At least 2 women were killed this week by their ex husbands. I don't think they were singing Delilah as they were stabbing away. I could be wrong though.
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