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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'm on a zero hour contract and work as bank staff (I put my name down and if they need me I get work) Iv not been getting any shifts lately  is that just a risk I take with a job like that or is there anything I can do?? No money=no bills being paid.
I work for the Nhs so there is never any shortage of shifts, or maybe "they are trying to get rid of me" ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately that's the hell of zero hour contracts, and why they're being outlawed soon. I've worked in a few places on those contracts but not for a few years. I'm surprised the NHS do that tbh!
Other than bringing up your issue with the lack of shifts with your superior, there's not much else you can do |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately that's the hell of zero hour contracts, and why they're being outlawed soon. I've worked in a few places on those contracts but not for a few years. I'm surprised the NHS do that tbh!
Other than bringing up your issue with the lack of shifts with your superior, there's not much else you can do "
When they are outlawed am I able to get a contract even though Iv been there for 2 years? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I stand corrected... Just done a quick search and apparently, they aren't being outlawed. The only change to the law that came into effect in May, is that you have the right to work elsewhere, without getting into trouble, if your hours aren't putting enough bread on the table. |
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Yeah, not being outlawed, but as of last year, exclusivity clauses are unenforceable, even though organisations continue to use them.
Can't you get on some Agency books? that way you get paid twice as much per shift than bank. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yeah, not being outlawed, but as of last year, exclusivity clauses are unenforceable, even though organisations continue to use them.
Can't you get on some Agency books? that way you get paid twice as much per shift than bank."
Not 'twice' as much, unless you are a specialist nurse. On average, approx a third above NHS rates  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yeah, not being outlawed, but as of last year, exclusivity clauses are unenforceable, even though organisations continue to use them.
Can't you get on some Agency books? that way you get paid twice as much per shift than bank."
The other week I wasn't highlighted to work but the angency were!! It was the case that agency are only highlighted at a last resort. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I stand corrected... Just done a quick search and apparently, they aren't being outlawed. The only change to the law that came into effect in May, is that you have the right to work elsewhere, without getting into trouble, if your hours aren't putting enough bread on the table."
Ok thankyou  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You should really have a chat with your superior though. It sounds like they're taking the piss a little bit."
At the end of the day it's their choice though  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Can't speak for your area, as your profile is hidden. Can't PM you as women are blocked. Depending on which job role you are, agencies cannot fill enough of certain roles in my area, so agency work may be an option ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course, but a happy employee is an efficient employee, so it's in their interests to hear you out.
I been told to go to HR"
Wouldn't that cause a rift if you skip the person who does the scheduling? Ask them first, go to HR if you get nowhere. Join an agency if that's better hours for you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Of course, but a happy employee is an efficient employee, so it's in their interests to hear you out.
I been told to go to HR
Wouldn't that cause a rift if you skip the person who does the scheduling? Ask them first, go to HR if you get nowhere. Join an agency if that's better hours for you. "
I don't want to cause a rift at all. I do feel I'm being punished for cutting my work hours down. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can't speak for your area, as your profile is hidden. Can't PM you as women are blocked. Depending on which job role you are, agencies cannot fill enough of certain roles in my area, so agency work may be an option ?"
I will go to some agency's on Monday |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work on a casual contract which is a zero hour contract with no stability! If you're not getting the hours there I would query why, surely you should all be getting equal hours? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is a way of 'politely' letting staff go unfortunately, which is probably another reason for you to speak to someone, to a) Get an idea of where you stand and b) Get more hours! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I work on a casual contract which is a zero hour contract with no stability! If you're not getting the hours there I would query why, surely you should all be getting equal hours?"
I'm wondering this, but I don't think they care. If I'm off sick for any reason and I don't phone in (which I do) I get crossed of the list for 4 weeks, but I'm allowed to but my name back down at the bottom and can and have been given a shift. If they don't need me I just need to suck it up |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It is a way of 'politely' letting staff go unfortunately, which is probably another reason for you to speak to someone, to a) Get an idea of where you stand and b) Get more hours!"
Why don't they sack me!? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It is a way of 'politely' letting staff go unfortunately, which is probably another reason for you to speak to someone, to a) Get an idea of where you stand and b) Get more hours!
Why don't they sack me!? "
Because they may not have a reason or the manager is spineless... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you join an agency, make sure they have their own payroll. Many agencies use 'umbrella' companies, which take 3-6% of your pay, to 'process your pay'.
You will probably have to pay for a new DBS. As soon as the new DBS clearance lands through your door, go online and pay I think it is £15, to renew annually. If you do, you will never have to pay full DBS again, it is also transportable to another job. No waiting for DBS clearance again. BUT, it must be done within 14 days of landing in the post to you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you join an agency, make sure they have their own payroll. Many agencies use 'umbrella' companies, which take 3-6% of your pay, to 'process your pay'.
You will probably have to pay for a new DBS. As soon as the new DBS clearance lands through your door, go online and pay I think it is £15, to renew annually. If you do, you will never have to pay full DBS again, it is also transportable to another job. No waiting for DBS clearance again. BUT, it must be done within 14 days of landing in the post to you. "
What is a DBS? |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
"If you join an agency, make sure they have their own payroll. Many agencies use 'umbrella' companies, which take 3-6% of your pay, to 'process your pay'.
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Unfortunately most agencies (In my experience) don't have in house payroll anymore (mainly due to IR35 Legislation I think). The umbrella company are a rip off (my opinion) as charging approx $15 to process a payslip has a negative effect on lower paid workers.
However if going down the agency route make sure to claim back your Expenses Such as travel, subsistence, work tools/clothing and umbrella company fees as these are all tax deductible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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0 hour contracts are the modern names for surfdom, it costs them nothing not to use you, so they can mess you around and all you can do is say thank you if they toss some scraps from the table.
Are you on the bank to specific wards, or all local hospitals and GP surgerys? can you get on the bank for other possibilities? e.g. private hospitals? the only power you have from the 0 hour system is to make yourself available to the highest bidder. |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
NW London |
Oh and negotiate on the hourly or daily rate the agency quote based on your experience, you can usually bump it up a little.
Remember that this rate is inclusive of holiday pay, sick pay and pension. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"0 hour contracts are the modern names for surfdom, it costs them nothing not to use you, so they can mess you around and all you can do is say thank you if they toss some scraps from the table.
Are you on the bank to specific wards, or all local hospitals and GP surgerys? can you get on the bank for other possibilities? e.g. private hospitals? the only power you have from the 0 hour system is to make yourself available to the highest bidder. "
No specific wards, I could apply for other jobs within the Nhs that's an option. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Oh and negotiate on the hourly or daily rate the agency quote based on your experience, you can usually bump it up a little.
Remember that this rate is inclusive of holiday pay, sick pay and pension."
I don't get holiday or sick pay at work |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"our place uses agency nurses and carers but only after asking our staff first - agency costs the company a whole lot more "
Generally the same where I work, but the other week they used agency before using me! I think they are trying to get rid of me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've been on zero hour contracts and agency work before......... It sucks and they should be banned, but as were told they are good for the hard workers of Britain ...... Pfffttttt  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"our place uses agency nurses and carers but only after asking our staff first - agency costs the company a whole lot more
Generally the same where I work, but the other week they used agency before using me! I think they are trying to get rid of me. "
there has been a couple of times where an agency nurse has been used over ours but thats because shes a regular with us - one of our staff became free but was happy to let the agency have the shift as she had been rotad in for it - |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Oh and negotiate on the hourly or daily rate the agency quote based on your experience, you can usually bump it up a little.
Remember that this rate is inclusive of holiday pay, sick pay and pension.
I don't get holiday or sick pay at work "
Paraphrased from LawDonut website. If your contract gives you "worker" status then you are entitled to holiday and sick pay (usually rolled up into your hourly rate). You do not have full "employee" status so cannot claim for constructive dismissal or a notice period etc.
However there could be grounds to claim constructive dismissal if you are effectively tied to a single employer(contract stating that you must be available to work any shift offered) or if you have been on a long run of working full time hours which have since been cut with no reasonable explanation. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
Have you refused to go in at all?
Have you asked for less hours previously?
Have you said at any time that you weren't available for periods of time, certain days, etc?
Have you spoken to anyone at work about this?
What is your sickness and absence record like?
Is there a new person that allocates work?
You might think that they are being unfair with you, but alternatively, they may see you as less reliable or cooperative than others.
Or, alternatively, someone there might be restricting your hours maliciously.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Have you refused to go in at all?
Have you asked for less hours previously?
Have you said at any time that you weren't available for periods of time, certain days, etc?
Have you spoken to anyone at work about this?
What is your sickness and absence record like?
Is there a new person that allocates work?
You might think that they are being unfair with you, but alternatively, they may see you as less reliable or cooperative than others.
Or, alternatively, someone there might be restricting your hours maliciously.
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Ivy never refused to go in.
I've not asked for less hours, I have not been putting my name down as much due to personal reasons.
Never said I wasn't available for long periods, the longest I've ever had off is 2 weeks ( holiday)
Sickness is quite sporadic and I always phone up to let them know.
I don't know if there is a new person that allocates work, but whoever allocates the work in the in can all change at the weekends by a supervisor. |
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