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"Police in France arrested 6 people for planning an attack on a swingers club. "
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"Police in France arrested 6 people for planning an attack on a swingers club.
Sex can inflame people's passions about different perceptions of morals - especially when they aren't knee deep in clunge. "
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"yes its on the uk version of a major international news site. I don't think I'm allowed to give links on here in the forum so PM me for the link"
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start 
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions. "
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women |
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women"
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs. |
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"I have wondered about this recently. Seems like the perceived decadence of the swinging lifestyle would be an obvious and easy target for extremism."
Not really, they wish to spread hatred and fear to Christians and westerners, attack swingers would possibly get some of the target group thinking they are safe. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"Love how people have to refer to the past in an attempt to appear relevant to the here and now.
It's why nothing ever really gets done. "
Have you never heard the expression "learn from the past" |
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"Love how people have to refer to the past in an attempt to appear relevant to the here and now.
It's why nothing ever really gets done.
Have you never heard the expression "learn from the past""
Yes but not using it as an excuse or diversion from the narrative. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs."
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy |
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy"
Sorry Josie, I admit I did misinterpret what you said! I should of noticed the little !
Please accept my apologies. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"Love how people have to refer to the past in an attempt to appear relevant to the here and now.
It's why nothing ever really gets done.
Have you never heard the expression "learn from the past"
Yes but not using it as an excuse or diversion from the narrative. "
You are not making sense |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently  "
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily. |
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy"
There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims |
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"Love how people have to refer to the past in an attempt to appear relevant to the here and now.
It's why nothing ever really gets done.
Have you never heard the expression "learn from the past"
Yes but not using it as an excuse or diversion from the narrative.
You are not making sense"
It's all relative I suppose |
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"Police in France arrested 6 people for planning an attack on a swingers club.
Sex can inflame people's passions about different perceptions of morals - especially when they aren't knee deep in clunge. "
Hahaha |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily. "
Can you clarify how the Paris attacks (by French and and Belgium nationals) is anyway proof of IS infiltrating Europe and the UK by claiming to be regugess? |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily. "
So what's the answer? Close the borders to all migrants, even those genuinely fleeing for their lives?
Even if you do close the borders Isis have proved adept at spreading their hate and influence over the Internet. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy
There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims"
Exactly. This minority, who 'conduct' these weekly attacks, is not even Muslim. They just call themselves Muslims. They are probably a diversion tactic by the far-right to make us believe that they are terrorists who killing people and raping women and that these are Muslim
We should be looking at the 1.5 billion who are not doing any of this
And in any event, these news stories are probably propaganda by the far right. As we all know, most media is controlled by the Right
Nothing to see or do here people; just carry on with your daily business. More people die on European roads in a day than the non-Muslim terrorists kill in a week |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
Can you clarify how the Paris attacks (by French and and Belgium nationals) is anyway proof of IS infiltrating Europe and the UK by claiming to be regugess? "
Do you live as a hermit in a cave or something? All this was in every major newspaper and on every major television news channel last year. Isis claimed responsibility for the Paris attacks last year. The authorities released details of how they had travelled from Syria, at least 2 of the attackers were rescued from a sinking boat full of refugees in the Mediterranean Sea, and taken to a Greek island where they were processed as refugees, then tickets records were produced by Greek authorities which showed they caught a ferry to mainland Europe. They then travelled the migrant routes through Europe with other refugees into France (Paris) where they carried out the attacks. All these details were released to the mainstream news and media by the various police and immigration authorities investigating the attacks. |
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"yes its on the uk version of a major international news site. I don't think I'm allowed to give links on here in the forum so PM me for the link
Newspaper links are fine.
For anyone who wishes to read the rules they are here.
https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules"
Really, I know someone who received a time out for posting a link to a newspaper page.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
So what's the answer? Close the borders to all migrants, even those genuinely fleeing for their lives?
Even if you do close the borders Isis have proved adept at spreading their hate and influence over the Internet. "
Close the borders to non swingers. It's the only way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The same people moaning about condemning the lot for a fews actions are the same people who condemn all daily mail readers!!..
Ahh the hypocrisy of ideology...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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All Tories, all right wing groups, everyone in the BMP, all the supporters of ukip, anyone who joins the EDL.... Yes let's blame everyone for the minority...
Oh hang on, let's see where the minority get their beliefs from... Same place as the majority, just the majority are sensible.
So please let's stop all this blaming right wing fascist groups for the actions of a few idiots |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
Can you clarify how the Paris attacks (by French and and Belgium nationals) is anyway proof of IS infiltrating Europe and the UK by claiming to be regugess?
Do you live as a hermit in a cave or something? All this was in every major newspaper and on every major television news channel last year. Isis claimed responsibility for the Paris attacks last year. The authorities released details of how they had travelled from Syria, at least 2 of the attackers were rescued from a sinking boat full of refugees in the Mediterranean Sea, and taken to a Greek island where they were processed as refugees, then tickets records were produced by Greek authorities which showed they caught a ferry to mainland Europe. They then travelled the migrant routes through Europe with other refugees into France (Paris) where they carried out the attacks. All these details were released to the mainstream news and media by the various police and immigration authorities investigating the attacks. "
Absolute bl**dy nonsense
That was misinformation spread by the right-wing. The reality is that these were French nationals, who had lived in France for many generations and, although called themselves Muslims, were not true Muslims
True Muslims are the 1.5 billion around the world who are not terrorists and engage in peace-loving activities in every every Muslim nation on a daily basis. Any Muslim terrorist is not a Muslim
And in any event, the number of people being killed in Europe by these far-right funded non-true-Muslims, is minuscule compared to the number of people killed by Hitler 75 years ago. That should be the focus of our attention these days
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
So what's the answer? Close the borders to all migrants, even those genuinely fleeing for their lives?
Even if you do close the borders Isis have proved adept at spreading their hate and influence over the Internet. "
I think David Cameron's approach of being selective and only allowing the most vulnerable and needy (mainly women and children) to come here direct from the refugee camps is the right way to go.
As opposed to Angela Merkels loony approach of opening the doors and saying "all are welcome here". It seems now Merkel has seen the error of her ways and changed her tune.
Besides an EU source said the other week it's estimated upto 60% of migrants are not genuine refugees but they are economic migrants anyway (like all those In Calais Corbyn wants us to open the door for). |
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
The website www.thereligionofpeace.com has recorded over 125,000 published reports of Koran-inspired murders by muslim terrorists since 9/11 indeed Boku Haram murdered about 90 people in recent days. Let's have your statistics on all the other "...creeds, colours and religions."... which you imply commit atrocities on a comparable scale!?"
The opening page of the website you mention says; TROP is a non-partisan, fact-based site that examines the ideological threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom.'
If it's non partisan, why does it not examine other religions? So any information from that site has to be treated with caution.
I don't have the figures to refute those statistics, but do you not think that maybe since 9/11 people have been using Islam to hide behind?
And if we lengthen out the time scales, then all religions have there shameful episodes.
Let's think of Buddhist monks in Burma killing Muslims, or the the srebrenica genocide with mainly Muslims as victims. Or the soviet pogroms? Rwanda? We could go on.
I personally have been showed kindness many, many times by Muslims in many theatres of war. |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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It's all very well referring to atrocities committed by other religious extremists in the far past but we are living in the here and now.
The unique aspect of these islamists is that they believe implicitly in an afterlife that rewards them for their martyrdom hence they do not fear death.
Their avowed intent is to turn this country (this world) completely muslim, they walk our streets proudly proclaiming this will be so.
No more swinging clubs
No more LGBT, off the roof you go.
Sharia law? Its coming soon to your town |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"It's all very well referring to atrocities committed by other religious extremists in the far past but we are living in the here and now.
The unique aspect of these islamists is that they believe implicitly in an afterlife that rewards them for their martyrdom hence they do not fear death.
Their avowed intent is to turn this country (this world) completely muslim, they walk our streets proudly proclaiming this will be so.
No more swinging clubs
No more LGBT, off the roof you go.
Sharia law? Its coming soon to your town"
I have already ordered my burkha. They also do the crotchless variant for use in swingers clubs 
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"It's all very well referring to atrocities committed by other religious extremists in the far past but we are living in the here and now.
The unique aspect of these islamists is that they believe implicitly in an afterlife that rewards them for their martyrdom hence they do not fear death.
Their avowed intent is to turn this country (this world) completely muslim, they walk our streets proudly proclaiming this will be so.
No more swinging clubs
No more LGBT, off the roof you go.
Sharia law? Its coming soon to your town
I have already ordered my burkha. They also do the crotchless variant for use in swingers clubs
[ does my bumb look look big in this? ]"
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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"It's all very well referring to atrocities committed by other religious extremists in the far past but we are living in the here and now.
The unique aspect of these islamists is that they believe implicitly in an afterlife that rewards them for their martyrdom hence they do not fear death.
Their avowed intent is to turn this country (this world) completely muslim, they walk our streets proudly proclaiming this will be so.
No more swinging clubs
No more LGBT, off the roof you go.
Sharia law? Its coming soon to your town
I have already ordered my burkha. They also do the crotchless variant for use in swingers clubs
[ does my bumb look look big in this? ]
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Nice one, how did you do that? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"yes its on the uk version of a major international news site. I don't think I'm allowed to give links on here in the forum so PM me for the link
Newspaper links are fine.
For anyone who wishes to read the rules they are here.
https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules
Really, I know someone who received a time out for posting a link to a newspaper page.
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They wouldnt have got a ban for a Newspaper link...however if a mistake was made and the person wants to query the ban THEY can do so from the CONTACT page.
It is getting tedious when a mod is trying to be helpful that people come along disputing a ban ( and now people disputing bans for third parties )as that IS against the rules which I have posted so please keep it off the forum |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Beer swilling,drug taking,wanna be gangsters,probably played call of duty in their spare time...doesn't sound like your typical Muslim.
Somewhere,a select number of people are getting high on the power and money they have gained by controlling puppets,then getting them to pay the ultimate price...all in the name of a religion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Oh my gosh. A few weeks ago (after Paris) I had a nightmare that we were in a club and some nameless faceless people burst in and started firing. It was awful and I nearly bowed out of where I was going that night (VA bi night) as it really frightened me.
Glad they caught them whatever was being planned
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions....
I don't have the figures to refute those statistics, but do you not think that maybe since 9/11 people have been using Islam to hide behind?
And if we lengthen out the time scales, then all religions have there shameful episodes.
Let's think of Buddhist monks in Burma killing Muslims, or the the srebrenica genocide with mainly Muslims as victims. Or the soviet pogroms? Rwanda? We could go on.
I personally have been showed kindness many, many times by Muslims in many theatres of war."
Buddhist monks eh? You better tell me more because I suspect that it's more a case of action/reaction namely non-indigenous muslims telling the locals how to dress, behave and what religion to follow!
And as we're now talking history you forgot to mention the Armenian Genocide by Muslim Turks and the ethnic cleansing of non- muslim minorities in Turkey after WW2... And heard of the Islamic State committing genocide against the Yazidis? But I get it...you think muslims per se are all victims? You should read up on the history of exactly how and why there are 1.5 billion muslims...and they didn't do it Jehovah Witness style by the polite knock on the door. |
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions....
I don't have the figures to refute those statistics, but do you not think that maybe since 9/11 people have been using Islam to hide behind?
And if we lengthen out the time scales, then all religions have there shameful episodes.
Let's think of Buddhist monks in Burma killing Muslims, or the the srebrenica genocide with mainly Muslims as victims. Or the soviet pogroms? Rwanda? We could go on.
I personally have been showed kindness many, many times by Muslims in many theatres of war.
Buddhist monks eh? You better tell me more because I suspect that it's more a case of action/reaction namely non-indigenous muslims telling the locals how to dress, behave and what religion to follow!
And as we're now talking history you forgot to mention the Armenian Genocide by Muslim Turks and the ethnic cleansing of non- muslim minorities in Turkey after WW2... And heard of the Islamic State committing genocide against the Yazidis? But I get it...you think muslims per se are all victims? You should read up on the history of exactly how and why there are 1.5 billion muslims...and they didn't do it Jehovah Witness style by the polite knock on the door."
And there got to be so many Christians in the world through politeness and tea and cake?
Both religions are steeped in bloodshed.
Doesn't mean it's ok to persecute peaceful believers today. |
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There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims"
...and people are oppressed and try to escape from every single country that Islamic ideology controls. It is just a feudal fascist ideology - why do people make excuses because it is a religion ?
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm all for freedom of religious practise providing it doesn't impinge on others!.
But quite frankly they all do!.
I can't actually think of any situation in life where you could hack the foreskin off your child and get away with it! Without it being a deeply held religious belief... It's beyond what's deemed tolerable in the 21st century....
Of course what Islam is well aware of, is the course that all the other religions have LOST congregation once they've been moderated to fit with modern values...
The lesson being if you really wanna expand your religion.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Does anyone truly believe these lunatics are driven by a religious ideal?
If the concept of religion wasn't in existence they'd find some other division and hide behind it.
Fear gets them what they wish for.
Whilst the threat is real and horrific,the fact remains that in the grand scheme of things it's fairly minimal.
Far more people are killed by cars in the UK. But everyone carries on talking on mobiles whilst driving or driving like they own the road.
Get things on context and stop reacting to sensationalist media headlines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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there are a million places you would attack before a swingers club. It's just pure swinging scaremongering like Sidney university for example.
Remember, we are all libertines and therefore susceptible to rumour and hear say.
Chins up and don't let the bastards grind you down! |
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By *irceWoman
over a year ago
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy
There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims"
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I'm all for freedom of religious practise providing it doesn't impinge on others!.
But quite frankly they all do!.
I can't actually think of any situation in life where you could hack the foreskin off your child and get away with it! Without it being a deeply held religious belief... It's beyond what's deemed tolerable in the 21st century....
Of course what Islam is well aware of, is the course that all the other religions have LOST congregation once they've been moderated to fit with modern values...
The lesson being if you really wanna expand your religion.
You gotta keep it hardcore"
Most Americans hack the foreskin off regardless of whether they are religious or not |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm all for freedom of religious practise providing it doesn't impinge on others!.
But quite frankly they all do!.
I can't actually think of any situation in life where you could hack the foreskin off your child and get away with it! Without it being a deeply held religious belief... It's beyond what's deemed tolerable in the 21st century....
Of course what Islam is well aware of, is the course that all the other religions have LOST congregation once they've been moderated to fit with modern values...
The lesson being if you really wanna expand your religion.
You gotta keep it hardcore
Most Americans hack the foreskin off regardless of whether they are religious or not"
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That's actually not true!.... Was at one stage not anymore.
The prevalence of circumcision in the west is less than 30% in the south it's less than 40%... Of course you'd be taking about circumcision done in a hospital mostly, not done at home or in a religious ceremony in a church!!.
You wanna check out the figures for how many infants get hospitalised or die from religious ceremony's compared to hospital ones!.
No, let's say the next religion, let's say Scientologists, they decide tomorrow, let's loop off the little fingers of newborns... Yeah my God says it's a must do.
No in fact let's just say I get a whim without any God or religious beliefs to come home from the pub and whip the foreskin of my one year old with my kitchen knife!
I think any reasonable person would conclude it's totally unacceptable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Both religions are steeped in bloodshed.
Doesn't mean it's ok to persecute peaceful believers today."
In addition to the thousands of Yazidis the ISLAMIC State has murdered they have also kidnapped 3000 Yazidi girls and women for use as sex slaves. So when you use the phrase "Doesn't mean it's ok to persecute peaceful believers today" you're obviously referring to the Yazidis...aren't you? |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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On every programme featuring muslims like the Big Question, Jihadi next door etc. there is one type of question that is invariably avoided/ignored/prevaricated over:
"do you support or condemn the killing of apostates, FGM, the beheading of hostages etc.???"
This is the problem. These so-called peace loving muslims of whatever race creed or colour need to stand up and say en masse
"Not In My Name"
but they don't and the 'nutters' believe they have a religion wide mandate to do all this awful stuff. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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This is the problem. These so-called peace loving muslims of whatever race creed or colour need to stand up and say en masse
"Not In My Name"
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Why should they? No one asks me to stand up and say "not in my name" when someone with the same religion as me does something awful. MOST people would realise it is the minority that are extremists. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is the problem. These so-called peace loving muslims of whatever race creed or colour need to stand up and say en masse
"Not In My Name"
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Why should they? No one asks me to stand up and say "not in my name" when someone with the same religion as me does something awful. MOST people would realise it is the minority that are extremists."
You would like to think so.
But much of the press and many parts of society in this country and others lump extremism and ordinary Muslims together. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On every programme featuring muslims like the Big Question, Jihadi next door etc. there is one type of question that is invariably avoided/ignored/prevaricated over:
"do you support or condemn the killing of apostates, FGM, the beheading of hostages etc.???"
This is the problem. These so-called peace loving muslims of whatever race creed or colour need to stand up and say en masse
"Not In My Name"
but they don't and the 'nutters' believe they have a religion wide mandate to do all this awful stuff."
You do know that the extremists and IS are regularly condemnded by 'those so called peace loving muslims" you are berating for saying nothing? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy
There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims
Small.... "
Yes small. Do you understand percentages? If even 10 million muslims are extremists (and the figure is believed to be nowhere near that) then that is not even 1% of the global islmaic population. I'd say that's a pretty small percentage. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Were soon be a islamic state....its just the start
No we won't and we are no where near. Extremists come in all creeds, colours and religions.
Yes, I had heard about some Catholic extremists also planning similar attacks on swingers clubs
These Catholic extremeits were even ganging up in their hundreds and sexually assaulting and raping women
I'm not sure the attacks in Cologne were in the name of any religion. They were men who happened to be Muslims.
As you mention Catholics, a proportion of those have been involved in terrorism in recent history. Shall we condemn all Catholics?
And before we blame religion for being the root of all evil, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot weren't overly known for there religious beliefs.
Yes, that is what I meant. If we go back far enough, say 800 years, the Catholics committed the same if not worst atrocities
Muslims are peace-loving people following a peace-loving religion. And we are reminded of their love of peace now on a weekly basis
And yes, you are correct; what Hitler did 75 years ago is very relevant to today's terrorist acts. See, we agree
And ofcourse, the rapes and sexual assaults were by people, who all happened to be Muslims; it was merely a coincidence that they were all Muslim and if not that, then a far-right conspiracy
There are over 1 1/2 billion Muslims in the world. It never ceases to amaze me how you consistently stereotype based on the worst examples of behaviour that is displayed by a very small percentage of muslims
Small....
Yes small. Do you understand percentages? If even 10 million muslims are extremists (and the figure is believed to be nowhere near that) then that is not even 1% of the global islmaic population. I'd say that's a pretty small percentage. "
That is a relief to hear; so only a 1000 or so of us will get killed or raped every year. Phew. I can sleep easy from now on |
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Nice chat peeps, I don't think we should let a minority of nutters terrorise us and giving them our time on a swingers site when we should be talking about rimming or diesel particulates is what they want. They are just like us, they want to go out with a bang and end up with 47 virgins.... unfortunately the virgins are all on here and they 'aint pretty and none of them have clunges. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
I hate our preoccupation with terrorism in this country, and looking for the muslim bogeyman who has come to kill Christians in the West. The biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims, not living in the UK, but the ones living in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Egypt etc. These are thr countries facing daily bombings, Muslims killing Muslims for political reasons, not religious beliefs.
Look at home many government agencies in the US are fighting the war on terror. Post 9/11 there have been around 35 Islamic terrorist deaths, and around 300,000 gun deaths. Obama tries to get sensible gun controls and is considered a mad man, Trump says ban all Muslims and his ratings go through the roof. There is something very very wrong here. |
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"I hate our preoccupation with terrorism in this country, and looking for the muslim bogeyman who has come to kill Christians in the West. The biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims, not living in the UK, but the ones living in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Egypt etc. These are thr countries facing daily bombings, Muslims killing Muslims for political reasons, not religious beliefs.
Look at home many government agencies in the US are fighting the war on terror. Post 9/11 there have been around 35 Islamic terrorist deaths, and around 300,000 gun deaths. Obama tries to get sensible gun controls and is considered a mad man, Trump says ban all Muslims and his ratings go through the roof. There is something very very wrong here. "
It's enshrined into their constitution.. That's sacrosanct to US citizens. Any politician that attempts to revise or ammend their constitution is treated with suspicion on contempt, regardless of how sensible those amendments may be or how sorely needed they are.
In regards to the situation of devastating violence and terrorism sweeping the Muslim world, thank the Saudis and their oil money and mediaeval Islamist agendas . The Muslim world, like the Christian world has to go through an enlightenment of some sort and Institute reforms, all the western money and sympathy won't be of any real use until they do.
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"I hate our preoccupation with terrorism in this country, and looking for the muslim bogeyman who has come to kill Christians in the West. The biggest victims of terrorism are Muslims, not living in the UK, but the ones living in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Egypt etc. These are thr countries facing daily bombings, Muslims killing Muslims for political reasons, not religious beliefs.
Look at home many government agencies in the US are fighting the war on terror. Post 9/11 there have been around 35 Islamic terrorist deaths, and around 300,000 gun deaths. Obama tries to get sensible gun controls and is considered a mad man, Trump says ban all Muslims and his ratings go through the roof. There is something very very wrong here. "
I may not have it exactly right but I think more people were shot accidentally by children last year in America than were killed by Muslims. But one is seen as acceptable |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
Wolverhampton |
Regardless of how any of us feel about discriminating, finger pointing, stereotyping whatever....
Or our individual political views...
Facts are that none of us feel as safe as we used to.
After the apparent end of the Irish problem we all felt a bit safer on our streets.
Yes it's a swingers forum but these issues are discussed on forums and sites everywhere and people feel very strongly about it.
Not only on the web either.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Regardless of how any of us feel about discriminating, finger pointing, stereotyping whatever....
Or our individual political views...
Facts are that none of us feel as safe as we used to.
After the apparent end of the Irish problem we all felt a bit safer on our streets.
Yes it's a swingers forum but these issues are discussed on forums and sites everywhere and people feel very strongly about it.
Not only on the web either.
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I don't feel any less safe than before. Terrorism isn't something that scares me, there is no reason to be scared of something which such a tiny chance of it happening. Also the terrorists want you to be scared. That's their plan, to scare you into stopping doing something. So for me, I feel as though if I was scared out of doing something, or even just scared in general, then I woukd be letting them win.
If you look up the Wikipedia page about "security theatre" you'll see that in America, the 9/11 attacks and the extra security put in place scared some people from flying, so they drove instead, which increased the numbers of fatal car accidents to the equivalent of 4 passenger planes full each year. So the terrorists dont have to bomb a plane to kill you, they just have to make you scared. |
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"Regardless of how any of us feel about discriminating, finger pointing, stereotyping whatever....
Or our individual political views...
Facts are that none of us feel as safe as we used to.
After the apparent end of the Irish problem we all felt a bit safer on our streets.
Yes it's a swingers forum but these issues are discussed on forums and sites everywhere and people feel very strongly about it.
Not only on the web either.
I don't feel any less safe than before. Terrorism isn't something that scares me, there is no reason to be scared of something which such a tiny chance of it happening. Also the terrorists want you to be scared. That's their plan, to scare you into stopping doing something. So for me, I feel as though if I was scared out of doing something, or even just scared in general, then I woukd be letting them win.
If you look up the Wikipedia page about "security theatre" you'll see that in America, the 9/11 attacks and the extra security put in place scared some people from flying, so they drove instead, which increased the numbers of fatal car accidents to the equivalent of 4 passenger planes full each year. So the terrorists dont have to bomb a plane to kill you, they just have to make you scared."
I'm the same. I can honestly say that I don't feel an less safe since 9/11 and 7/7. Similarly I'm not worried that the train I'm on this morning will crash or that I'll get hit by a car when cycling. They all could happen but they probably won't. And I can't really do much to avoid them, wrong place, wrong time. You can't spend your life worring about mortality and things we can't control |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Regardless of how any of us feel about discriminating, finger pointing, stereotyping whatever....
Or our individual political views...
Facts are that none of us feel as safe as we used to.
After the apparent end of the Irish problem we all felt a bit safer on our streets.
Yes it's a swingers forum but these issues are discussed on forums and sites everywhere and people feel very strongly about it.
Not only on the web either.
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I feel less safe. I am also very suspicious of people in burkas; I am serious. Wasn't it one guy in a burka who was part of the 7/7 killings? And no, I don't think he was a TV/TS 
Similarly, I am now suspicious of Muslims; I try to avoid tube cars where there are too many of them. And before anyone asks how I know they are Muslims. Statistically, Muslims are of South East Asian, Middle Eastern or East European origin. Somebody is now going to tell me that avoiding them is racism. Then tough if it is. My safety comes above anybody's opinions, which I can very easily ignore
I think these are all precautions similar to the precautions I used to take if coming home alone very late at night. I avoid groups of young men. Not because all of these young men are rapists but because statistically groups of young men, late on a Saturday night, are more likely to molest women who are by themselves
To say that I have a higher chance of being killed in a car crash than of being shot in a Parisian restaurant by a Muslim is of little comfort to me. Whilst cars are becoming safer, Muslim terrorist are on the increase |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
Can you clarify how the Paris attacks (by French and and Belgium nationals) is anyway proof of IS infiltrating Europe and the UK by claiming to be regugess? "
Did you not listen to or read any of the news reports following the attacks? It was evidenced that some of the attackers had done exactly that. |
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"Six Islamic extrimists apparently
Isis did say they intended to infiltrate Europe and smuggle in terrorists hidden amongst the refugees and economic migrants to carry out terrorist attacks in Europe. Yet those who spoke out on here about it were shouted down by the loony left and the PC brigade. Its already happened with the Paris attacks last year (even though they were french and Belgium nationals they had spent many months in Syria gaining terrorist training and combat experience before sneaking back into Europe posing as refugees and using the refugee crisis as cover). They will try again, having open borders in Europe without proper checks on people is madness (why anyone thought it was a good idea is beyond me?)
Yes isis are to blame but the EU is also partly to blame for allowing them to move across borders so easily.
Can you clarify how the Paris attacks (by French and and Belgium nationals) is anyway proof of IS infiltrating Europe and the UK by claiming to be regugess?
Did you not listen to or read any of the news reports following the attacks? It was evidenced that some of the attackers had done exactly that. "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-attacks-the-eight-terror-suspects-named-so-far-all-have-eu-passports-a6738821.html
Yes I read about it. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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I don't think it's fair to say that Muslims don't speak out. There have plenty condemning ISIS. Enough of them? Enough from people of influence? Possibly not, but they do and many grassroots campaigns are out there.
I used to work in a place where I encountered Muslim students everyday. They would be in tears and massively angry after terrorist atrocities. They were good people at heart (much better to be around than many of the appallingly behaved non-Muslim students). The people who suffer more than anyone from ISIS etc are Muslims.
I'm sure this makes me sound like a soft leftie liberal on this. I'm actually a devotee of Christopher Hitchens, a fiercely militant atheist who was critical of Islam and all religion. Didn't agree with everything he said, but he was one of the finest minds of the last few decades. His stuff on religion on YouTube is immense.
Ayaan Hirshi Ali is my new hero (and very beautiful!). People like that offer the best hope for the future, I reckon.
I guess I believe people can be fundamentally good while following religions that are fundamentally bad.
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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We can deal with people wanting to kill us because we are filthy swingers, English, eat dead animals etc, these are tangible things.
But those who want to kill me or my family because we don't believe in their particular brand of fairy stories?
Some of you need to get your head out of whatever. This is the 21st century not the middle ages and there is a growing movement of people who think
"We've had enough of this shit"
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