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Here in the northern hemisphere with low light intensity and short daylight hours at this point in winter you will likely be deficient in Vitamin D. For the last couple of months, even if you got outdoors in the daytime, your body probably made no vitamin D - so it could be worth taking a supplement until summer.
Also as we age our bodies tend to reduce their production of this essential vitamin. UK diets are also unlikely to provide close to the required amounts needed.
Whilst generally skeptical of the money wasted on many supplements, vitamin D is one that's worth focusing on as it is vital to our good health.
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"Here in the northern hemisphere with low light intensity and short daylight hours at this point in winter you will likely be deficient in Vitamin D. For the last couple of months, even if you got outdoors in the daytime, your body probably made no vitamin D - so it could be worth taking a supplement until summer.
Also as we age our bodies tend to reduce their production of this essential vitamin. UK diets are also unlikely to provide close to the required amounts needed.
Whilst generally skeptical of the money wasted on many supplements, vitamin D is one that's worth focusing on as it is vital to our good health.
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Or have a cheeky wee sunbed  |
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I don't doubt the science but imagine living somewhere like Finland (apparently they have a very high suicide rate).
Personally, while I don't fully doubt the vitamin D argument (it's a loud one that has been thrashed to death in most corners the internet), I'd attribute it to it being both cold and dark rather than one over the other:
Warm dark nights? No shits given.
Cold light nights? No shits given.
You do the math but I feel compelled to let you know that I'm a scientist. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"Here in the northern hemisphere with low light intensity and short daylight hours at this point in winter you will likely be deficient in Vitamin D. For the last couple of months, even if you got outdoors in the daytime, your body probably made no vitamin D - so it could be worth taking a supplement until summer.
Also as we age our bodies tend to reduce their production of this essential vitamin. UK diets are also unlikely to provide close to the required amounts needed.
Whilst generally skeptical of the money wasted on many supplements, vitamin D is one that's worth focusing on as it is vital to our good health.
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Or quarter of an aspirin,once a day,and you can live forever.
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Sunbeds and SAD lamps do nothing for Vit D levels, and there's only a small amount you can get from certain goods, oily fish and eggs mostly. If you don't get enough sunshine you don't get enough Vit D. I've spent the last year taking Colecalciferol, which is vit D and calcium, because my level of vit D was so low it couldn't be measured. It's only just in the middle of the normal range now, even though I'm still on supplements. Taking vit D this past year changed my life, I was in constant all over pain before I started. Every muscle and bone seemed to hurt, within a month of taking the supplements I felt so much better. There's a lot of research going into vit D deficiency these days and I believe it's going to come out as a major cause of various conditions in the northern countries of the world. |
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"Sunbeds and SAD lamps do nothing for Vit D levels, and there's only a small amount you can get from certain goods, oily fish and eggs mostly. If you don't get enough sunshine you don't get enough Vit D. I've spent the last year taking Colecalciferol, which is vit D and calcium, because my level of vit D was so low it couldn't be measured. It's only just in the middle of the normal range now, even though I'm still on supplements. Taking vit D this past year changed my life, I was in constant all over pain before I started. Every muscle and bone seemed to hurt, within a month of taking the supplements I felt so much better. There's a lot of research going into vit D deficiency these days and I believe it's going to come out as a major cause of various conditions in the northern countries of the world."
I have MS so I am supposed to take 5000iu of vitamin D per day and my Neuro advised 30 minutes of unprotected sun a day.
I do feel happier when it's sunny, but over 17 degrees, I start to really suffer. Ah, MS is a heartless bitch |
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"Sunbeds and SAD lamps do nothing for Vit D levels, and there's only a small amount you can get from certain goods, oily fish and eggs mostly. If you don't get enough sunshine you don't get enough Vit D. I've spent the last year taking Colecalciferol, which is vit D and calcium, because my level of vit D was so low it couldn't be measured. It's only just in the middle of the normal range now, even though I'm still on supplements. Taking vit D this past year changed my life, I was in constant all over pain before I started. Every muscle and bone seemed to hurt, within a month of taking the supplements I felt so much better. There's a lot of research going into vit D deficiency these days and I believe it's going to come out as a major cause of various conditions in the northern countries of the world.
I have MS so I am supposed to take 5000iu of vitamin D per day and my Neuro advised 30 minutes of unprotected sun a day.
I do feel happier when it's sunny, but over 17 degrees, I start to really suffer. Ah, MS is a heartless bitch"
Very simolar here, but I have ME and auto-immune disease, amongst other health problems. Have to be careful with the sun though in summer due to chemo  |
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I started taking VitD a few months ago after being in constant pain..tiredness every muscle aching and hair loss .After a good few tests they found óot my levels were low..I was sceptical at first but that one tablet every day as changed my life. No more pain..aches and tiredness my hairs back to normal and one happy me. |
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Vitamin d defificiant for as long as I can remember even with a supplement.
Then roughly 18 months ago i stopped being deficient my levels had gone right up to normal, and have been ever since.
It is also a coincidence that my mental health has been at its best since then.
I'm convinced it's my age, in a positive way.
Since I've started the change everything good is happening to my body.
I haven't even looked into the positive effects of the menopause but I know that the onset of pubity caused all the had things to happen.
Anyway whatever it is I'm not complaining
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Glad a few of you have really benefited from vitamin D supplements and meds to get you to healthy levels. Karen, it's wonderful to know you're there at last too - I'd imagine cats are a little different to the rest of us here, the humans 
I fell asleep after posting last night, so didn't update on the need to get D from sun, food or supplements - but not lamps. It'd be nice if the lamps helped SAD and raised D levels but they don't.
I'd imagine that about now we're almost as deficient as we get, due to low intensity light for months. Multivitamins have D usually but I'd suggest a specific D option. |
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I've taken lots of supplements throughout my life, the only one which has had a noticeable effect is krill oil, pretty much eliminated pms, which had a seriously detrimental effect on me, my life and my marriage to my ex. |
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"Germolene is my tip for the day. It fixes anything.
I cut an arm off once. Applied germolene to the stump and by morning I'd grown a new one.  "
Was it your own arm?
I am off to get an industrial sized tub of this wonder stuff to see if it will convert garage for me.  |
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I had to take a 10,000 unit vit d supplement recently because the other issue I had, had made me so low in vit d. I'm hoping now I have had my gallbladder removed everything should sort itself out but will still need to take the supplement for a few more months |
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"Germolene is my tip for the day. It fixes anything.
I cut an arm off once. Applied germolene to the stump and by morning I'd grown a new one. "
Well I'm cutting my arm of as we speak so I can test this.
s t c t t e a re f ck. |
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I live just north east of London and my vitamin d was low. My doctor said everyone who lives in the UK will have low vitamin d because we don't get enough sunlight. I didn't feel any better after my course of medication. |
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"Germolene is my tip for the day. It fixes anything.
I cut an arm off once. Applied germolene to the stump and by morning I'd grown a new one.
Was it your own arm?
I am off to get an industrial sized tub of this wonder stuff to see if it will convert garage for me. "
Yes. It was a chainsaw accident. You can't even see the join 
Regarding your garage conversion; by day I do wonderful transformations. |
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"Been taking vit D capsules since November. I have seen no positive effects."
It's made you a disagreeable sod.
I, in the other hand, have NOT been taking Vit D capsules so heartfeltingly and happily and encouragingly agree with the op totally. Which just proves my point.... |
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"Germolene is my tip for the day. It fixes anything.
I cut an arm off once. Applied germolene to the stump and by morning I'd grown a new one.
Was it your own arm?
I am off to get an industrial sized tub of this wonder stuff to see if it will convert garage for me.
Yes. It was a chainsaw accident. You can't even see the join
Regarding your garage conversion; by day I do wonderful transformations. "
Proving Monty python right! |
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"Been taking vit D capsules since November. I have seen no positive effects.
It's made you a disagreeable sod.
I, in the other hand, have NOT been taking Vit D capsules so heartfeltingly and happily and encouragingly agree with the op totally. Which just proves my point.... "
Sorry please feel free to throw your hard earned away on this "snake oil".. |
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So the hour of day light aday I've been seeing while at work and running around till I'm so tired I can hardly lift my feet and when I finally get home at around 7pm after cleaning up and getting showered, it's almost 9pm then gotta sort stuff for work next day and make sure work clothes are clean ect brings me up to around 10-10.30pm when I can finally decide what to have for tea and by time it's cook n I've eaten it it's around 11.30 then finally I can sleep till 4am when it all starts again.... isn't good for me after all lol x |
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From the interweb....
"Foods high in vitamin D include fish oils, fatty fish, mushrooms, beef liver, cheese, and egg yolks."
Just eat properly. Be healthy. |
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"Been taking vit D capsules since November. I have seen no positive effects.
It's made you a disagreeable sod.
I, in the other hand, have NOT been taking Vit D capsules so heartfeltingly and happily and encouragingly agree with the op totally. Which just proves my point....
Sorry please feel free to throw your hard earned away on this "snake oil".."
Exactly how, if your deficient in vitamin D, is taking an IU rated supplement classed as snake oil?
It's actually prescribed by doctors you know? So it's a little less snake oil than perhaps you think.
The benefits only really kick in if your deficient, which is typically indicated by a number of symptoms. If you already have reasonable levels of vitamin D, a supplement won't have any positive, demonstrable effects. |
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"I've taken lots of supplements throughout my life, the only one which has had a noticeable effect is krill oil, pretty much eliminated pms, which had a seriously detrimental effect on me, my life and my marriage to my ex."
Which krill oil did you take? I've never heard of it before & have tried everything!! |
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"Been taking vit D capsules since November. I have seen no positive effects."
You potentially are in good health? I've seen recommendations that a couple of months on booster dose, tapering down to a maintenance dose is an appropriate plan.
vitamin D is ideally taken with fat containing food, to support its absorption in the body.
It's thought that we can take too much and I'd encourage everyone to do some personal research and review of buying options too.
As for Lib -I prefer the scientific approach too |
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"Been taking vit D capsules since November. I have seen no positive effects.
It's made you a disagreeable sod.
I, in the other hand, have NOT been taking Vit D capsules so heartfeltingly and happily and encouragingly agree with the op totally. Which just proves my point....
Sorry please feel free to throw your hard earned away on this "snake oil"..
Exactly how, if your deficient in vitamin D, is taking an IU rated supplement classed as snake oil?
It's actually prescribed by doctors you know? So it's a little less snake oil than perhaps you think.
The benefits only really kick in if your deficient, which is typically indicated by a number of symptoms. If you already have reasonable levels of vitamin D, a supplement won't have any positive, demonstrable effects. "
So yes a prescribed amount of vit D to someone with a deficient level would work wonders I'm sure. But do they sell that dose in Holland & Barrett? I fear not. Plus the OP was "You're probably deficient" intimating a common problem in the population as a whole. |
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"From the interweb....
"Foods high in vitamin D include fish oils, fatty fish, mushrooms, beef liver, cheese, and egg yolks."
Just eat properly. Be healthy."
Clem - it's really hard to get sufficient Vitamin D from diet and sunlight in our country.
I'm generally against woo and snake oil nonsense and would normally just eat healthily, rather than take a supplement. I just see it as not that possible that we'll get what we need from food and almost certainly not from winter light here in the UK. |
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Found this...
optimizing your sun exposure and levels of vitamin D3 may, indeed, be one of the most important physical steps you can take in support of your long-term health. Conventional medicine is finally beginning to get on board the vitamin-D3 bandwagon, using the natural power of sunshine to treat type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis during a woman's pregnancy and even tuberculosis.
It is important to understand that the ideal and STRONGLY preferred method of increasing your vitamin D3 level is through appropriate sun exposure. I really do not advise oral supplements, not even cod liver oil now, UNLESS you can have your blood levels regularly monitored. |
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"What happens if you OD on it? "
It builds up calcium in your blood, makes you wee more and can cause kidney problems such as stones. Also effects heart rhythm |
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"Found this...
optimizing your sun exposure and levels of vitamin D3 may, indeed, be one of the most important physical steps you can take in support of your long-term health. Conventional medicine is finally beginning to get on board the vitamin-D3 bandwagon, using the natural power of sunshine to treat type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis during a woman's pregnancy and even tuberculosis.
It is important to understand that the ideal and STRONGLY preferred method of increasing your vitamin D3 level is through appropriate sun exposure. I really do not advise oral supplements, not even cod liver oil now, UNLESS you can have your blood levels regularly monitored. "
Thanks Clem - are we not likely to be deficient at this point in the year?
I'm normally anti supplements but don't see how I'd get the required levels from no sun exposure or diet. |
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"What happens if you OD on it?
It builds up calcium in your blood, makes you wee more and can cause kidney problems such as stones. Also effects heart rhythm "
And if you are deficient then your body does not absorb calcium (no matter how much cheese you eat or milk you drink) and you risk weakened and brittle bones! |
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"Found this...
optimizing your sun exposure and levels of vitamin D3 may, indeed, be one of the most important physical steps you can take in support of your long-term health. Conventional medicine is finally beginning to get on board the vitamin-D3 bandwagon, using the natural power of sunshine to treat type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis during a woman's pregnancy and even tuberculosis.
It is important to understand that the ideal and STRONGLY preferred method of increasing your vitamin D3 level is through appropriate sun exposure. I really do not advise oral supplements, not even cod liver oil now, UNLESS you can have your blood levels regularly monitored.
Thanks Clem - are we not likely to be deficient at this point in the year?
I'm normally anti supplements but don't see how I'd get the required levels from no sun exposure or diet. "
I think that's saying that oral supplements wont help. Get to a sun bed! |
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"Found this...
optimizing your sun exposure and levels of vitamin D3 may, indeed, be one of the most important physical steps you can take in support of your long-term health. Conventional medicine is finally beginning to get on board the vitamin-D3 bandwagon, using the natural power of sunshine to treat type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis during a woman's pregnancy and even tuberculosis.
It is important to understand that the ideal and STRONGLY preferred method of increasing your vitamin D3 level is through appropriate sun exposure. I really do not advise oral supplements, not even cod liver oil now, UNLESS you can have your blood levels regularly monitored.
Thanks Clem - are we not likely to be deficient at this point in the year?
I'm normally anti supplements but don't see how I'd get the required levels from no sun exposure or diet.
I think that's saying that oral supplements wont help. Get to a sun bed!"
You mean those sunbeds which feature on the cancer research website and have some real health risks associated with their use?
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"I wonder how all those people managed in the years before supplements were invented?
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They didn't have X Box, PS3.
Kids used to play outside for hours.
Jobs weren't ninety percent about moving email about.
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"I wonder how all those people managed in the years before supplements were invented?
They died sooner and had more untreated health conditions "
I agree on the untreated health conditions but there isn't much to support the earlier death that's oft quoted.
The lower average life expectancy figures include the very high infant mortality rates. Three score and 10 is what people expected to be a good age, which seems fair to me. Once you've lost your teeth (pre dentists) then eating becomes difficult.
Being active and outside has a lot of health benefits but we choose to take our active indoors on a treadmill now.
If the supplements work for you then take them. I was prescribed Vitamin D but it didn't make any difference so I work on getting it through food and going outside when I can.
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"In some parts of sweden back home we got darkness 6 months of the year.
It's ok though, Haribo are loaded with Vitamin D."
That is right they are and they are tasty too. |
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"I wonder how all those people managed in the years before supplements were invented?
They died sooner and had more untreated health conditions
I agree on the untreated health conditions but there isn't much to support the earlier death that's oft quoted.
The lower average life expectancy figures include the very high infant mortality rates. Three score and 10 is what people expected to be a good age, which seems fair to me. Once you've lost your teeth (pre dentists) then eating becomes difficult.
Being active and outside has a lot of health benefits but we choose to take our active indoors on a treadmill now.
If the supplements work for you then take them. I was prescribed Vitamin D but it didn't make any difference so I work on getting it through food and going outside when I can.
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I wasn't campaigning for or against Vit D. Just saying people died sooner or got avoidable illnesses before supplements and medicine were established. |
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I'd advise against trying sunbeds for vitamin D - the risks outweigh any benefit that you may get.
Vitamin D3 is the form that is needed.
Some countries have wider supplementation, such as via foods. In the USA milk has D added to it. Finland has official supplements too. Not sure about Sweden but Shags here.
As others point out, we are now living differently to our parents and earlier generations - we played outside all the time.
I opened the thread as it's timely - now we've had several months when we couldn't make it from sunlight here in the UK. The government is looking at a move to wider supplementation plans - but I'm not holding my breath.
My gut feel is that we should supplement, especially in winter, unless we have known health issues. |
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