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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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A 10-year-old Muslim boy who mistakenly wrote that he lived in a "terrorist house" during an English lesson at school has been investigated by police.
The pupil, who attends a primary school in Lancashire, meant to say he lived in a "terraced house".
The boy was interviewed by Lancashire Police at his home the next day and the family laptop was examined.
Teachers have been legally obliged to report any suspected extremist behaviour to police since July.....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
You mean like being able to spell the word "always" correctly...
Priceless.....
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By *rs DCouple
over a year ago
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
You mean like being able to spell the word "always" correctly...
Priceless..... huh?
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Oh, how I laughed |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Are you English? |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
You mean like being able to spell the word "always" correctly...
Priceless.....
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At least it was "politely" incorrect.
"Nowadays" people struggle with some words.
Auto carrot makes many of us look silly sometimes.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day! "
I fink it deservers a prize....   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day!
I fink it deservers a prize.... "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Oh the irony that such a poorly written posts attacks a 10 year old for what you perceive to be their poor levels of literacy |
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By *issy louWoman
over a year ago
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"nothing wrong with this being checked.
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I agree, I work as a teaching assistant and if I had seen this in a student's work I think it would be my duty to point it out to my superior. I would never forgive myself if something happened and I had chosen to overlook it. Maybe a sad world we live in, but that's how it is  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
In the interest of balance, I tend to agree with your sentiment.
I'm just not sure you delivered it from the moral high ground.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A 10-year-old Muslim boy who mistakenly wrote that he lived in a "terrorist house" during an English lesson at school has been investigated by police.
The pupil, who attends a primary school in Lancashire, meant to say he lived in a "terraced house".
The boy was interviewed by Lancashire Police at his home the next day and the family laptop was examined.
Teachers have been legally obliged to report any suspected extremist behaviour to police since July.....
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It's a safeguarding measure though, and not all that unusual. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think its an over the top reaction. I highly doubt the boy would have been investigated with a view to prosecute. What it would more likely have been is that they'd investigate the potential that his family/guardians could be terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. It could, potentially, have stopped an attack and maybe stopped a child from being radicalized. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day!
I fink it deservers a prize.... "
*think! *deserves! Sorry couldnt help it haha    |
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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago
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"nothing wrong with this being checked.
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I dread to think of the outrage if it hadn't have been checked and there had Been a terrorist attack associated with this.
Sign of the times we live in.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
When are you going to learn correct sentence structure and spelling? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think its an over the top reaction. I highly doubt the boy would have been investigated with a view to prosecute. What it would more likely have been is that they'd investigate the potential that his family/guardians could be terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. It could, potentially, have stopped an attack and maybe stopped a child from being radicalized."
I agree. It has to be investigated and it seems that the investigation was nothing more than the police having a chat with the family and checking their laptop. Really don't see the issue |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm laughing.
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Yeah I know what you mean,,,,
In fact if I could retitle this thread.....
I think I'd call it......
" I don't know whether to laugh or laugh" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I find it interesting that people think the reaction was proportional!
Let's say they were terrorists but it had gone unreported. Are we really going to say that a Freudian slip by a 10-year old constitutes serious evidence that would have been decisive in stopping the event. If you think so, you don't understand probability.
Secondly, if it was a white kid it wouldn't have been reported. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day!
I fink it deservers a prize....
*think! *deserves! Sorry couldnt help it haha "
Point/humour missed there I'm afraid. Reed it agen. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day!
I fink it deservers a prize....
*think! *deserves! Sorry couldnt help it haha
Point/humour missed there I'm afraid. Reed it agen. "
Nope it wasnt missed was just adding to the humour |
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"I find it interesting that people think the reaction was proportional!
Let's say they were terrorists but it had gone unreported. Are we really going to say that a Freudian slip by a 10-year old constitutes serious evidence that would have been decisive in stopping the event. If you think so, you don't understand probability.
Secondly, if it was a white kid it wouldn't have been reported."
Have you got or had a 10 year old child? My youngest is 9 & some of the stuff he comes out with is eye opening. The amount of times I've had to explain to his teacher things that he's written in stories.
My children's dad left us 4 years ago when my eldest was 10. He was threatening to burn down his dad's house, he'd googled how to cut the brakes on his car & became obsessed with terrorism - especially Bin Laden - just because of what he heard on the radio, seen on the news or the front pages of papers. I had to stop listening or watching. He used to constantly question my brother about his time in Iraq. Luckily with intervention from the school & the school nurse he received immediate counselling.
10 year olds are not stupid. They are far more knowledgeable than we ever were due to the Internet.
10 is also the age where a child can be prosecuted in a criminal court so these matters have to be taken seriously regardless of a child's ethnicity |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My niece wrote her Christmas list aged about five and, amongst the items requested was "new tits", turns out she wasn't copying Aunty Heels she just mis-spelt "tights". That will haunt her for the rest of time I'm sure. Off topic I know, but hopefully worthy of a wee chuckle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we weren't so bloody liberal with who we let into this country, none of this would of been an issue.
*dons his tin hat*  "
would've or would have.
NOT would of FFS  |
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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago
not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds) |
"My niece wrote her Christmas list aged about five and, amongst the items requested was "new tits", turns out she wasn't copying Aunty Heels she just mis-spelt "tights". That will haunt her for the rest of time I'm sure. Off topic I know, but hopefully worthy of a wee chuckle. "
I'm sure there's many a guy and girl on here who'd like to investigate further auntie heels tights..  |
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
It was a mistake - I'm dyslexic and quite often get my words mixed up.
Sad for the whole nation that such an error now results in these actions - bring back the days when the teacher would've had a little laugh to themselves about it and then corrected the child.
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I agree it's good that teachers are aware and looking out for the kids but a better response might have been, rather than reporting straight away, for the teacher to ask the child to explain what he meant. Then they'd have realised he meant a terraced house and it was an unfortunate spelling error. |
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Prufe reeding is alwys gud thow "
Careful, a grammar nazi will be along to correct you shortly, I'm sure most people know what you meant though. |
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Were all so good to judge if the teacher had done nothing and that child turned out to be an Islamic extremest and years from now the teacher said yes he wrote about when he was 10 what would all the do gooder,s be saying then |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Comedy gold
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A 10-year-old Muslim boy who mistakenly wrote that he lived in a "terrorist house" during an English lesson at school has been investigated by police.
The pupil, who attends a primary school in Lancashire, meant to say he lived in a "terraced house".
The boy was interviewed by Lancashire Police at his home the next day and the family laptop was examined.
Teachers have been legally obliged to report any suspected extremist behaviour to police since July.....
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Lmao .............. fair play to the lad dont think i could spell terrorist at that age . Interestingly though if it had been a non muslim kid that wrote it where would it have gone ? plenty of white right fruit cakes kicking about , just need to turn on the tv .........donal trump anyone ??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree it's good that teachers are aware and looking out for the kids but a better response might have been, rather than reporting straight away, for the teacher to ask the child to explain what he meant. Then they'd have realised he meant a terraced house and it was an unfortunate spelling error."
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'll prob get slated for this, but.
Has anybody stopped to think maybe he didn't do a typo and is an extremely good spellerer.
Oh and spellerer is a real word, cause my grandson uses it. End of lol
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classes boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?"
classed not classes gggrrrr auto correct
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"I agree it's good that teachers are aware and looking out for the kids but a better response might have been, rather than reporting straight away, for the teacher to ask the child to explain what he meant. Then they'd have realised he meant a terraced house and it was an unfortunate spelling error."
exactly, I'm not saying they shouldn't have done anything but just a bit of basic common sense asking the child what they ment and it could of been cleared up simply. If after asking the child and they were worried about the response then they could of investigated further.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Was he supposed to be spelling terraced?
Not surprised he spelt it wrong tbh, amount of terrorist related warning stuff we've been sent home from school and employment agencies, it's probably ingrained into most kids/teens heads by now. |
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"Was he supposed to be spelling terraced?
Not surprised he spelt it wrong tbh, amount of terrorist related warning stuff we've been sent home from school and employment agencies, it's probably ingrained into most kids/teens heads by now. "
actually that was my first thought of any he had accidentally put terrorist instead of terraced
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?"
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we weren't so bloody liberal with who we let into this country, none of this would of been an issue.
*dons his tin hat* "
Would have been an issue, not would of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Are you English?"
i thought it was a tongue in cheek post to be honest |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we weren't so bloody liberal with who we let into this country, none of this would of been an issue.
*dons his tin hat*
would've or would have.
NOT would of FFS "
Sorry teacher.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Was he supposed to be spelling terraced?
Not surprised he spelt it wrong tbh, amount of terrorist related warning stuff we've been sent home from school and employment agencies, it's probably ingrained into most kids/teens heads by now. actually that was my first thought of any he had accidentally put terrorist instead of terraced
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took me a while to figure it out tbh. |
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"I find it interesting that people think the reaction was proportional!
Let's say they were terrorists but it had gone unreported. Are we really going to say that a Freudian slip by a 10-year old constitutes serious evidence that would have been decisive in stopping the event. If you think so, you don't understand probability.
Secondly, if it was a white kid it wouldn't have been reported.
Have you got or had a 10 year old child? My youngest is 9 & some of the stuff he comes out with is eye opening. The amount of times I've had to explain to his teacher things that he's written in stories.
My children's dad left us 4 years ago when my eldest was 10. He was threatening to burn down his dad's house, he'd googled how to cut the brakes on his car & became obsessed with terrorism - especially Bin Laden - just because of what he heard on the radio, seen on the news or the front pages of papers. I had to stop listening or watching. He used to constantly question my brother about his time in Iraq. Luckily with intervention from the school & the school nurse he received immediate counselling.
10 year olds are not stupid. They are far more knowledgeable than we ever were due to the Internet.
10 is also the age where a child can be prosecuted in a criminal court so these matters have to be taken seriously regardless of a child's ethnicity"
I'm not really sure what relevance any of what you said has to my point sorry. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it. "
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks! |
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Given the number of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread alone, and the fact that "terrorist" is more conmon a word today than "terraced", should a mistake by a young child be a surprise?
As someone who works in a school and who has been through the training, I would have simply asked the boy what he meant and to describe his house. That should have been the end of it.
yes we are trained to spot signs that young people are becoming radicalised or that their families might be involved in terrorism but common sense is still allowed. The signs are more long term things such as kids who are loners finding a new group to fit into. Could be Muslims finding an extremist preacher or white kids finding the BNP, for example. And in most cases the school will just keep an eye on kids. Whoever reported this was clearly not using common sense. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!"
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly. |
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"Given the number of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread alone, and the fact that "terrorist" is more conmon a word today than "terraced", should a mistake by a young child be a surprise?
As someone who works in a school and who has been through the training, I would have simply asked the boy what he meant and to describe his house. That should have been the end of it.
yes we are trained to spot signs that young people are becoming radicalised or that their families might be involved in terrorism but common sense is still allowed. The signs are more long term things such as kids who are loners finding a new group to fit into. Could be Muslims finding an extremist preacher or white kids finding the BNP, for example. And in most cases the school will just keep an eye on kids. Whoever reported this was clearly not using common sense."
Sorry teacher in your first paragraph you spelt common wrong. |
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"Given the number of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread alone, and the fact that "terrorist" is more conmon a word today than "terraced", should a mistake by a young child be a surprise?
As someone who works in a school and who has been through the training, I would have simply asked the boy what he meant and to describe his house. That should have been the end of it.
yes we are trained to spot signs that young people are becoming radicalised or that their families might be involved in terrorism but common sense is still allowed. The signs are more long term things such as kids who are loners finding a new group to fit into. Could be Muslims finding an extremist preacher or white kids finding the BNP, for example. And in most cases the school will just keep an eye on kids. Whoever reported this was clearly not using common sense.
Sorry teacher in your first paragraph you spelt common wrong. "
which just goes to prove how easy mistakes are made
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Oh pulease, it could have have been a non-muslim child making that error.
Btw I assume you meant politically and nowadays. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly."
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Could this be the perfect thread,,,,,
I mean......we've got spelling issues religious contentions... race relations.... educational high-jinx ..... big-brother watching.... fundamental extremisms... not to mention the T-word and to top it all the OP is a bloke in a frock......
I tell ya..... this is it....this is what I'm talking about... |
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"Given the number of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this thread alone, and the fact that "terrorist" is more conmon a word today than "terraced", should a mistake by a young child be a surprise?
As someone who works in a school and who has been through the training, I would have simply asked the boy what he meant and to describe his house. That should have been the end of it.
yes we are trained to spot signs that young people are becoming radicalised or that their families might be involved in terrorism but common sense is still allowed. The signs are more long term things such as kids who are loners finding a new group to fit into. Could be Muslims finding an extremist preacher or white kids finding the BNP, for example. And in most cases the school will just keep an eye on kids. Whoever reported this was clearly not using common sense.
Sorry teacher in your first paragraph you spelt common wrong. which just goes to prove how easy mistakes are made
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Yes but he's an adult teacher in a school who pointed out there is a high number of spelling and grammatical mistakes on this thread by others, then goes and does one of his own. I just found it amusing. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Oh pulease, it could have have been a non-muslim child making that error.
Btw I assume you meant politically and nowadays."
It wouldn't have been reported if it was a non-muslim kid. |
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"My sister was invited into school because her son spelt can't cunt "
My son couldn't say the word can't- it came out as cunt, certainly raised a few eyebrows |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs."
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison. |
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Highly annoying.
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs.
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison. "
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense"
I cut out part of the comment I was replying to now to make it easier for you to understand. The person I responded to implied the troubles were just a heated debate, I assume they were referring to the IRA in relation to previous posts about 9/11. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs.
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
Like most of your posts then. "
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
I cut out part of the comment I was replying to now to make it easier for you to understand. The person I responded to implied the troubles were just a heated debate, I assume they were referring to the IRA in relation to previous posts about 9/11. "
My point was that terrorism is nothing new and personally I don't see 9/11 as anything fundamentally different. That's just my opinion though. |
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter who they are end of "
Right so it's nothing new then and we don't need to fuck over our civil liberties and all start spying on each other just to deal with the latest bunch. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs.
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
Like most of your posts then.
Well maybe you could expand on how you are downplaying the atrocities of the IRA? "
I'm not downplaying it, and started the post by saying the IRA attacks were bad. You seriously think any of their attacks were on the same size and scale of 9/11? If so which ones?
Secondly 9/11 changed the world to what it is today. If you think it didn't you are living in cloud cookoo land. Which is getting back to the OP. Prior to 9/11 the teacher wouldn't have reported the spelling mistake the kid made to the police. Now after 9/11, 7/7 and subsequent attacks by Islamist extremists even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing. |
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"The question I would ask if a white middle classed boy made the same mistake would the teacher have gone to the police?
Probably not but then white middle class families are not generally known to be modern day jihadi terrorists.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, if the teacher had not reported it to the police, then there was a terrorist incident in future and it was traced back to this boys house, would be hell to pay for both the school and the police for not investigating it.
Really?
You think that there would be a terrorist attack and the only 'evidence' was that a 10-year old boy made a Freudian slip. That was the only decisive clue that could have stopped the attack.
Poppycock.
Did you know that all 19 terrorists that carried out the 9/11 attacks were connected by just 2 degrees of separation on their social networks!
The authorities are damned if they do and damned if they don't, as demonstrated on this thread with people holding different opinions on how it should have been handled.
With your reference to 9/11, bit of a mute point really as that was the first major terrorist attack on the west, so the 2 degrees of separation on their social networks you point out wouldn't have been given much credence prior to 9/11. Of course 9/11 is the day that changed everything, and those sort of things are now investigated more thoroughly.
Oh right! The troubles were just a heated debate were they?
Some people hate to think for themselves, lest they get blamed for making a mistake. So they pass the buck to someone else. Then they wonder why we live in a country where young Muslims are getting radicalised because they believe the west wants to destroy Islam. This kind of shit makes great propoganda.
Use some common sense ffs.
Of course the troubles with the IRA were bad, but none of their attacks were anywhere near on the same size, scale and destruction as 9/11. Different set of terrorists, different nationality, different religion, different aims, different ideology and different end game. To compare the 2 really isn't a fair (or sensible) comparison.
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
Like most of your posts then.
Well maybe you could expand on how you are downplaying the atrocities of the IRA? "
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing. "
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
"
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day. |
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter who they are end of
Right so it's nothing new then and we don't need to fuck over our civil liberties and all start spying on each other just to deal with the latest bunch. "
I didn't mean that I meant weather it be linked to Isis or I R A terrorism is terrorism.
A 10 year old boy who happens to be Muslim is not a terrorist just made a simple spelling mistake that we are ALL guilty of doing yet he is hauled over the coals and for what |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
You mean like being able to spell the word "always" correctly...
Priceless.....
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And considering that, given current education, hardly any " English" kids could spell it; it's hardly his fault....
( and wherever his ethnic origin, English is still likely to be his mother tongue)
Given that a huge proportion of the adult population can't write "we're, were, where, or weir" properly in their contexts ........ |
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter who they are end of
Right so it's nothing new then and we don't need to fuck over our civil liberties and all start spying on each other just to deal with the latest bunch.
I didn't mean that I meant weather it be linked to Isis or I R A terrorism is terrorism.
A 10 year old boy who happens to be Muslim is not a terrorist just made a simple spelling mistake that we are ALL guilty of doing yet he is hauled over the coals and for what "
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day. "
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion."
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then . |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then . "
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now. |
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Poor bugger
All this fuss over a spelling mistake...
Still he's learnt a lesson, he's thrown those crayonings of Mohammed in the bin rather than pinning them to the fridge!
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter who they are end of
Right so it's nothing new then and we don't need to fuck over our civil liberties and all start spying on each other just to deal with the latest bunch.
I didn't mean that I meant weather it be linked to Isis or I R A terrorism is terrorism.
A 10 year old boy who happens to be Muslim is not a terrorist just made a simple spelling mistake that we are ALL guilty of doing yet he is hauled over the coals and for what
I think I was agreeing with you! "
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now. "
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Considering the level of spelling on some of these threads by English adults, who use the dyslexic card, your comment amuses me. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Considering the level of spelling on some of these threads by English adults, who use the dyslexic card, your comment amuses me."
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Oh, how I laughed"
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Considering the level of spelling on some of these threads by English adults, who use the dyslexic card, your comment amuses me.
Some of us don't use the dyslexic card some are actually dyslexic just saying "
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I am not sure about this one.
A spelling mistake would be teraced house or something like that, terrorist house is quite a big difference to that.
Fair play to the police, i would guess most 10 year old kids could not spell terrorist |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ..."
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not. "
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"As someone who works in a school and who has been through all the training aimed at spotting signs of extremism and terrorist sympathy, I would have asked the boy what he meant. "
Exactly! I`m looking at this and wondering why the teacher checking this added two and two together and made several thousand! I`ve lost count of the number of times I`ve received that e.mail with all of those spelling mistakes made in exams by students much older than this boy.
I will also admit that this boy may be more clever than we give credit for and there may have been intent on having a "bit of fun" but I still think it`s gone way much further than it should have done. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?"
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?"
For all the reasons I've already mentioned on this thread regarding probability.
See my comments about 2 degrees of separation for the 9/11 attackers. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Oh the irony.
Nowadays? |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
Umm yeah ok, I think you meant "not have happened", "politically incorrect", "nowadays". See how easy it is to make a mistake? |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did. "
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
For all the reasons I've already mentioned on this thread regarding probability.
See my comments about 2 degrees of separation for the 9/11 attackers. "
You probably are right, but then again you are probably incorrect. In the aftermath what do you think is the probability that someone wishes they had said or done something differently? |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did.
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'. "
Well if they have a problem with the West maybe take the next plane out of here. Id hate to think there unhappy |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
For all the reasons I've already mentioned on this thread regarding probability.
See my comments about 2 degrees of separation for the 9/11 attackers.
You probably are right, but then again you are probably incorrect. In the aftermath what do you think is the probability that someone wishes they had said or done something differently?"
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did.
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'.
Well if they have a problem with the West maybe take the next plane out of here. Id hate to think there unhappy"
That's kind of the problem, they get radicalised here and jump on a plane to Syria. It's the return trip that bothers me. |
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days.
Priceless! Definitely my post of the day!
I fink it deservers a prize.... "
FAB post of 2016.
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did.
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'.
Well if they have a problem with the West maybe take the next plane out of here. Id hate to think there unhappy
That's kind of the problem, they get radicalised here and jump on a plane to Syria. It's the return trip that bothers me. "
Looking at this post then when they do return the immigration officials will be terrified to do the proper checks on the said person. Instead of knocking people that are concerned about our nations security maybe all stick together |
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"I find it interesting that people think the reaction was proportional!
Let's say they were terrorists but it had gone unreported. Are we really going to say that a Freudian slip by a 10-year old constitutes serious evidence that would have been decisive in stopping the event. If you think so, you don't understand probability.
Secondly, if it was a white kid it wouldn't have been reported."
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did.
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'. "
Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives. There is not a war by the West on Islam, but you and the Muslim community have to realise there is a war on terrorism. It just so happens most of the terrorists in the world today are Muslims. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
Exactly the point, how was the teacher to know beforehand that nothing would be found at the boys house? I don't think the teacher looks like a fool at all, she just played it on the safe side by reporting it. In today's current climate with the ever present threat of islamic fundamentalist terrorism, perfectly understandable for the school to take the action that they did.
Whilst you're welcome to your view that she did the right thing, I would contest the words "safe side". What she did obviously has consequences for the way Muslims see Non-Muslims. Whether it's the way the boy now sees his teacher or his wider family or what their community think when the family inevitably tell them.
At the end of the day, we have a problem with young Muslims getting radicalised and this sort of stuff is great propoganda that can be twisted into a message of 'the West has a war on Islam'.
Well if they have a problem with the West maybe take the next plane out of here. Id hate to think there unhappy
That's kind of the problem, they get radicalised here and jump on a plane to Syria. It's the return trip that bothers me. "
Simple solution to that if they go off to Syria to join isis then don't ever let them come back and remove British citizenship. |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives. "
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check. |
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"even something as small as a spelling mistake by a 10 year old Muslim boy sets alarm bells ringing.
Sounds like you live somewhere between North Korea and 1984 to me! If that's the society you want then the terrorists have already won.
I don't normally get accused of living in cuckoo land! But if that's a place where I can calculate the probability of a Freudian slip being the central clue to a terrorist plot and then weigh that risk against the damage that reporting people does, then I'll fetch my passport.
I don't live somewhere between North Korea and 1984, but I do live in a world post 9/11, post 7/7, post Lee Rigby, post Charlie hebdo 15, post Tunisia 15 and post Paris 15 (plus many other attacks far too numerous to list here).
Secondly it's not the society I want but it is the society we already have. It's a society where it's better to be on the safe side because the threat of terrorism is very real every single day.
Well I live in a world of probability and will give a big middle finger to all terrorists by doing exactly what I would have done tomorrow whether 7/7 or 9/11 happened or not. I'll fly where I want to, travel to see Jerusalem, the pyramids and Petra when i want to. And i'll hop on a london bus without a second though.
The great thing about dying is that you don't live to regret it. Living a life on egg shells is worse than death in my opinion.
I don't regret anything, and i dont live my life on eggshells either. I've never had any interest in visiting Egypt, Tunisia or Israel, I don't use buses because I drive a car. I'm having a great time living my life the way I want to. So I guess we are both happy then .
We are but we differ on our opinion of that teacher. My opinion is that she looks like a fool now.
hindsight is a wonderful thing ...
Probability is nothing to do with hindsight. The question is whether she made a good decision based on the information at the time and I'm arguing that she did not.
Why do you think she made a bad decision at the time, without using hindsight?
For all the reasons I've already mentioned on this thread regarding probability.
See my comments about 2 degrees of separation for the 9/11 attackers.
You probably are right, but then again you are probably incorrect. In the aftermath what do you think is the probability that someone wishes they had said or done something differently?
Depends on the information that was available to them at the time of the decision. "
And that teacher, at that moment, decided it was something to be checked. 20 years ago that decision would probably have been very different. Historical events have played an important part in today's decision making process.
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"well tbh if he learnt to speak English properly it would not have happen at the age of ten, but then is it politely incorrect to learn English in our schools knower days. "
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check."
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check. |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check. "
On the contrary, I just don't remember your pre-9/11 golden age when there was no threat of terrorism. There have been terrorists as long as there have been governments. What do you think Guy Fawkes was doing - playing with matches? |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
On the contrary, I just don't remember your pre-9/11 golden age when there was no threat of terrorism. There have been terrorists as long as there have been governments. What do you think Guy Fawkes was doing - playing with matches? "
I've not denied terrorism existed before 9/11, just said that 9/11 changed the world, which it has. |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check. "
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
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If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police. |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police. "
A spelling mistake !!! Really
If that was the only reason then that was wrong..
England had the lowest rates of childern in literacy and numeric.. Thats all of england so should everyone be reported for a spelling mistake.. |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police.
A spelling mistake !!! Really
If that was the only reason then that was wrong..
England had the lowest rates of childern in literacy and numeric.. Thats all of england so should everyone be reported for a spelling mistake.."
Look i spelt children wrong and i really didn‘t mean to and i can spell |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police.
A spelling mistake !!! Really
If that was the only reason then that was wrong..
England had the lowest rates of childern in literacy and numeric.. Thats all of england so should everyone be reported for a spelling mistake.."
As someone else already said hindsight is a wonderful thing. How was the teacher to know it was just an innocent spelling mistake and there wasn't anything more sinister behind it? You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, in my opinion the teacher did the right thing acting on the side of caution to be on the safe side. |
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Considering the level of spelling on some of these threads by English adults, who use the dyslexic card, your comment amuses me.
Some of us don't use the dyslexic card some are actually dyslexic just saying "
The bleeding obvious don't need saying, but you can see, quelle surprise, those slating a ten year old for not having good English did what? Yep...use dyslexia.
Poor show criticising a child for getting his word wrong when you suffer from a similar condition I'd have thought...but hey, what do I know! |
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police.
A spelling mistake !!! Really
If that was the only reason then that was wrong..
England had the lowest rates of childern in literacy and numeric.. Thats all of england so should everyone be reported for a spelling mistake..
As someone else already said hindsight is a wonderful thing. How was the teacher to know it was just an innocent spelling mistake and there wasn't anything more sinister behind it? You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, in my opinion the teacher did the right thing acting on the side of caution to be on the safe side. "
It a shame the schools dont put this same level of vigilance looking out for bullies, be it in school or online.. |
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Are you English?
i thought it was a tongue in cheek post to be honest "
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"Interestingly the county council and police have released a statement to the effect that the spelling mistake was not the only reason the matter warranted further investigation.
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"Interestingly the county council and police have released a statement to the effect that the spelling mistake was not the only reason the matter warranted further investigation.
Interesting how much the details are lacking this time! "
Joining the dots to get a full picture |
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By *olgateMan
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Inaction also has consequences, like innocent people being blown up, shot or knifed to death on the streets by terrorists. Would rather a few people have their feelings hurt than innocent people lose their lives.
Indeed it does. It's just my opinion that anyone who thinks that the major clue to stopping a terrorist attack could be found in a 10-year olds school book has seen one too many hollywood films and needs a reality check.
I think people who live in today's world who deny that there is a very real threat of terrorism also need a reality check.
Yes there is a real threat, but there is also alot of scare mongers out there..
My oldest is in last 6ths of collage getting ready for uni, so she put her head down and is studing hard core ,Teacher pulls her out and voiced concerns as her dads asian ..
That upset her and me..(understand they have a dutie of care )...But The Assumption.. WoW..
If the teacher gave no other reason to you or your daughter then I agree that is very wrong.
In the case of what this thread is about though with the 10 year old boy writing he lived in a terrorist house I think the teacher was justified to report it to the police.
A spelling mistake !!! Really
If that was the only reason then that was wrong..
England had the lowest rates of childern in literacy and numeric.. Thats all of england so should everyone be reported for a spelling mistake..
Look i spelt children wrong and i really didn‘t mean to and i can spell "
it looks like you can't spell numeracy though.
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By *omaMan
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It was a mistake - I'm dyslexic and quite often get my words mixed up.
Sad for the whole nation that such an error now results in these actions - bring back the days when the teacher would've had a little laugh to themselves about it and then corrected the child.
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Good response mate us Dyslexia should Untie! |
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It was a mistake - I'm dyslexic and quite often get my words mixed up.
Sad for the whole nation that such an error now results in these actions - bring back the days when the teacher would've had a little laugh to themselves about it and then corrected the child.
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Good response mate us Dyslexia should Untie! |
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"nothing wrong with this being checked.
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Definitely, if it's checked appropriately. The school and other establishments are now legally complied to report such instances. They ought to have asked the child what he meant, to see if it was a spelling mistake too.
As it was, the house didn't get raided by armed storm troopers, merely an official visit.
People make Freudian slips, so that one word might also have been a giveaway of something that was going on. If it was one of my sons I'd expect the same response. |
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"nothing wrong with this being checked.
Definitely, if it's checked appropriately. The school and other establishments are now legally complied to report such instances. They ought to have asked the child what he meant, to see if it was a spelling mistake too.
As it was, the house didn't get raided by armed storm troopers, merely an official visit.
People make Freudian slips, so that one word might also have been a giveaway of something that was going on. If it was one of my sons I'd expect the same response."
it is very frustrating when you hear about cases of child abuse, and it is later discovered that something could have been done had the component parts of the system been talking with others and sharing information.
Although in this case it is not connected with possible child abuse, I think it is encouraging to see that as a result of the teacher mentioning this small insignificant mistake it triggered another authority to do a sweep of their data. At which point, and on the substance of the additional data, it was deemed appropriate to arrange a visit/interview.
Sharing and communicating - the key to so many things.
It came to nothing... but there was proper and due diligence in the process.
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