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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes
We are being systematically manipulated into believing the health service will only ever be better if it is put into private hands.
It is cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror tactics and if not stopped, it will bring the health of this country into jeopardy whilst making a few people very, very rich.
Anything that stops or delays this government in continuing in this vein is OK by me.
Don't let the media make you believe the doctors are the problem. They really aren't. |
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Yes
We are being systematically manipulated into believing the health service will only ever be better if it is put into private hands.
It is cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror tactics and if not stopped, it will bring the health of this country into jeopardy whilst making a few people very, very rich.
Anything that stops or delays this government in continuing in this vein is OK by me.
Don't let the media make you believe the doctors are the problem. They really aren't."
Well said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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the tories have been trying to privatise and selloff the nhs to its supporters for yrs and they will stop at nothing to get it done.with the labour party in an utter shambolic state they will be trying even harder to push it through  |
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One hundred per cent behind them on this. For far to long these people are under valued, and a statement many people make but over work and under paid.
The work these people do on a daily basis is in my opinion the most valued Job anyone could ever have. When you put average wages out there, the money these people are paid is laughable. They safe people on a daily basis, they put up with timewasters, d*unks you name it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes
We are being systematically manipulated into believing the health service will only ever be better if it is put into private hands.
It is cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror tactics and if not stopped, it will bring the health of this country into jeopardy whilst making a few people very, very rich.
Anything that stops or delays this government in continuing in this vein is OK by me.
Don't let the media make you believe the doctors are the problem. They really aren't."
But scaremongering is the only way media works 
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"No.
I don't think agree with strikes ever for anything.
I walked through picket lines when i worked as a nurse so that the patients didn't suffer."
Well done. You never ever thought about the people who fought to get the right for your patients to be treated or the ones that fought to give you a right to have an education. How selfless of you. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
its an awkward one........
it there is an nhs problem at weekends then it does need to be sorted..... it shouldn't been a 5 day a week NHS but a 7 day a week..... and if statistically stuff doesn't happen at the weekends unless it is an emergency (for example i had a cyst on my liver that couldn't wait till monday to be removed, so that had to do it as emergency on a saturday morning, which i was told afterward was rare)
but it shouldn't be done at the expense of doctors pay..... so if you gave them to same wages, but said you have to be rota lets say 1 in 3 weekends.... i don't have an issue..... |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
"its an awkward one........
it there is an nhs problem at weekends then it does need to be sorted..... it shouldn't been a 5 day a week NHS but a 7 day a week..... and if statistically stuff doesn't happen at the weekends unless it is an emergency (for example i had a cyst on my liver that couldn't wait till monday to be removed, so that had to do it as emergency on a saturday morning, which i was told afterward was rare)
but it shouldn't be done at the expense of doctors pay..... so if you gave them to same wages, but said you have to be rota lets say 1 in 3 weekends.... i don't have an issue..... "
Yes and no.
I have a lot of good things to say about the nhs - saved Mums life twice and dads life once
But I do think they are horrible underpaid and treat like shit, and hospitals in sat and sun are understaffed
The question is would you want your taxes going up to fund it
I myself know that there is a lot of mismanagement and was wasted funds so let's sort that out then pay the doctors and nurses what they deserve |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"No.
I don't think agree with strikes ever for anything.
I walked through picket lines when i worked as a nurse so that the patients didn't suffer.
Well done. You never ever thought about the people who fought to get the right for your patients to be treated or the ones that fought to give you a right to have an education. How selfless of you."
I presume you feel the same way about people who create their own problems by drinking, smoking, eating too much, play sports and have accidents, have unprotected sex and get STIs,.. Now there's selflessness for you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No.
I don't think agree with strikes ever for anything.
I walked through picket lines when i worked as a nurse so that the patients didn't suffer.
Well done. You never ever thought about the people who fought to get the right for your patients to be treated or the ones that fought to give you a right to have an education. How selfless of you."
I disagree with strikes.
There are other ways of going about it. |
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"No.
I don't think agree with strikes ever for anything.
I walked through picket lines when i worked as a nurse so that the patients didn't suffer.
Well done. You never ever thought about the people who fought to get the right for your patients to be treated or the ones that fought to give you a right to have an education. How selfless of you.
I presume you feel the same way about people who create their own problems by drinking, smoking, eating too much, play sports and have accidents, have unprotected sex and get STIs,.. Now there's selflessness for you!"
Lost me there sorry dont know what my post has to do with yours |
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"No.
I don't think agree with strikes ever for anything.
I walked through picket lines when i worked as a nurse so that the patients didn't suffer.
Well done. You never ever thought about the people who fought to get the right for your patients to be treated or the ones that fought to give you a right to have an education. How selfless of you.
I presume you feel the same way about people who create their own problems by drinking, smoking, eating too much, play sports and have accidents, have unprotected sex and get STIs,.. Now there's selflessness for you!"
There is a reason for everything some will always be right some wrong depending on your opinion. I always find that most people in todays selfish world will take what others fight for ie any improvement in conditions or pay while telling everyone how wonderfull they are for undermining any action taken. They never say after everything is sorted out i dont want this pay rise and i will not accept the extra day off i will work it for nothing. Just my opinion and as the old saying goes if the cap fits wear it. This is an argument that is down to personal principles. Bring back the middle ages so we can all work 16 hours a day for 1d a week. |
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Yes they are undervalued, underpaid and over worked x"
And have offered to take their argument to the appropriate body to avoid this action. No I don't work in the medical proffession but good luck to them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The fact the doctors have a 98% turnout for strike, tells me all I need to know.
Then the pathetic way the Murdoch controlled press, are attacking doctors reinforces my support for the doctors.
The doctors are defending the NHS against privitisation, which does not seem to work in this country.
Just look at our overpriced rail, water, energy etc... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes they are undervalued, underpaid and over worked x
And have offered to take their argument to the appropriate body to avoid this action. No I don't work in the medical proffession but good luck to them."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes.
Because I know a lot of doctors and what's involved in their jobs and it's frightening sometimes the decisions made on so little sleep. The 7 day NHS stuff in the press is bullshit - it already exists - and based on manipulation of statistics. I read an article a while back about transplant patients allegedly turning down organs if it meant they'd be operated on at a weekend because they thought they were more likely to die. Frankly they should be booted off the list altogether if they're that stupid, but that's by the by.
There is a huge recruitment crisis into key areas of the NHS (A&E, GP training, anaesthetics) and the proposed changes will only make that worse.
This isn't a group who go on strike lightly or regularly (hi, Tube drivers) so the fact it's come to this does feel like a sign something is going badly wrong. |
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Yes.
Because I know a lot of doctors and what's involved in their jobs and it's frightening sometimes the decisions made on so little sleep. The 7 day NHS stuff in the press is bullshit - it already exists - and based on manipulation of statistics. I read an article a while back about transplant patients allegedly turning down organs if it meant they'd be operated on at a weekend because they thought they were more likely to die. Frankly they should be booted off the list altogether if they're that stupid, but that's by the by.
There is a huge recruitment crisis into key areas of the NHS (A&E, GP training, anaesthetics) and the proposed changes will only make that worse.
This isn't a group who go on strike lightly or regularly (hi, Tube drivers) so the fact it's come to this does feel like a sign something is going badly wrong. "
Well said
Bit lost about the tube |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
Wakefield |
"the tories have been trying to privatise and selloff the nhs to its supporters for yrs and they will stop at nothing to get it done.with the labour party in an utter shambolic state they will be trying even harder to push it through "
What a load of rubbish the last Labour government privatised mot of the NHS than the coalition government and this government put together.
This strike is at the expense of pain people are suffering and risks people's lives.
I am not talking about those who need emergency treatment but those waiting for "routine" operations such as cataract or hip replacement where a fall or accident could easily lead to death.
All sides are to blame the junior doctors need to be more flexible and work a shift pattern over seven days, the hospital management need to employ more full time doctors instead of agency doctors and the government need to put the money in place.
Strikes never solve the problem and those striking never recover the money lost while on strike.
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"the tories have been trying to privatise and selloff the nhs to its supporters for yrs and they will stop at nothing to get it done.with the labour party in an utter shambolic state they will be trying even harder to push it through
What a load of rubbish the last Labour government privatised mot of the NHS than the coalition government and this government put together.
This strike is at the expense of pain people are suffering and risks people's lives.
I am not talking about those who need emergency treatment but those waiting for "routine" operations such as cataract or hip replacement where a fall or accident could easily lead to death.
All sides are to blame the junior doctors need to be more flexible and work a shift pattern over seven days, the hospital management need to employ more full time doctors instead of agency doctors and the government need to put the money in place.
Strikes never solve the problem and those striking never recover the money lost while on strike.
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The nhs needs to be 24/7 the rest of society has to be its a great institution but has to modernise constantly with money and no more wastage especially to fat cats salaries everyone blames the political parties one way or another but who is striking for more money its just human nature....greed.I have a relative close to death in hospital wasnt seen by a doctor for 2 weeks hoping he would pass away the nurses didnt bother to feed him or wash him all slowly walking around in the corridors not much care given at the bed side when i go to visit i cant see many nurses doing much so i dont kid myself like the rest they are there for the money and thats top of their agender same as the politicians |
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By *im himCouple (MM)
over a year ago
bedworth |
"Yes
We are being systematically manipulated into believing the health service will only ever be better if it is put into private hands.
It is cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror tactics and if not stopped, it will bring the health of this country into jeopardy whilst making a few people very, very rich.
Anything that stops or delays this government in continuing in this vein is OK by me.
Don't let the media make you believe the doctors are the problem. They really aren't."
Don't need to comment as you have said everything that needs to be said .
Soon as this trash of a government is rid of the better |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i cant agree with putting people through pain for personal gain,if you go into that sort of profession,patients come first,4000 procedures will be cancelled,i dont think many in pain would agree with it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"the tories have been trying to privatise and selloff the nhs to its supporters for yrs and they will stop at nothing to get it done.with the labour party in an utter shambolic state they will be trying even harder to push it through
What a load of rubbish the last Labour government privatised mot of the NHS than the coalition government and this government put together.
This strike is at the expense of pain people are suffering and risks people's lives.
I am not talking about those who need emergency treatment but those waiting for "routine" operations such as cataract or hip replacement where a fall or accident could easily lead to death.
All sides are to blame the junior doctors need to be more flexible and work a shift pattern over seven days, the hospital management need to employ more full time doctors instead of agency doctors and the government need to put the money in place.
Strikes never solve the problem and those striking never recover the money lost while on strike.
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By *abphil OP Man
over a year ago
sheffield |
"Yes 100%.No one takes the decision to strike lightly but in most cases it's the only option left. Always a picket, never a scab. "
Just goes to show what a "good" job maggie did and how she divided the country. You won't have rights and if you don't like it leave. I have an appointment on the 26th of Jan at the hospital to see a consultant the day of the next strike and support the strike because the only option the government offer is theirs and its so wrong. |
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