Has Winston just done THE biggest career implode ever ?
Big up to Emma pointing out that as well as the minority groups he mentioned who have struggled and fought to improve their lot,he should include GAYS in that mix..
What a dinosaur!
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"Missed it. What did he do / say?
A while back he said gays adopting was akin to child abuse. "
Ah ok. Thanks. Not good. 
Winston who? I don't watch CBB and even if I did, probably wouldn't know who he is  |
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"Has Winston just done THE biggest career implode ever ?
Big up to Emma pointing out that as well as the minority groups he mentioned who have struggled and fought to improve their lot,he should include GAYS in that mix..
What a dinosaur!
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He doesn't have a career... |
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"Missed it. What did he do / say?
A while back he said gays adopting was akin to child abuse.
Ah ok. Thanks. Not good.
Winston who? I don't watch CBB and even if I did, probably wouldn't know who he is "
He was/is a UKIP candidate. |
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"He has different opinions. I don't agree with any of them but you can't be wrong with an opinion of what you think or believe in "
Opinions can be wrong. So can beliefs.
For example, just because I say "I believe the world is flat" doesn't make it true. It's wrong. |
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"An opinion or a belief that is factuallt wrong is obviously wrong.
..... however a lot of opinions get lambasted because its politically incorrect"
He has claimed child abuse where no evidence of abuse occurs. That's not politically incorrect, it's just wrong. |
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"In what context did he say that"
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse. |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse. "
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion |
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"In what context did he say that"
he didnt say it on the show... it was somthing he said years ago to the press when he was pushed on the subject.
whilst I agree that it views was wrong...big brother knew exacly what they was doing... they have all this info on the people before going in and deliberately brought this up in a task to alienate this guy from his hoisemates and the public....it wasnt nice to watch to be honest.
when the housemates came to evicting a housemate tbey all chose winston for that quote on adoption and gay couples, when he never even said that in the house and if bb never brought it up it wouldnt have been a factor.
he should have been judged on how he was as a housemate and not somthing a newspaper quoted him saying years ago.
big brother wanted headlines wouldnt surprise me if he was asked to go on bb just so they could destroy the guy. |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse.
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion"
No it doesn't. It's not child abuse at all, you can't just claim stuff as "beliefs" that have no evidence.
You can't say "all white men are rapists" as it's simply not true. The same applies here. Gay couples adopting is not child abuse, abusing a child is child abuse. |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse.
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion
No it doesn't. It's not child abuse at all, you can't just claim stuff as "beliefs" that have no evidence.
You can't say "all white men are rapists" as it's simply not true. The same applies here. Gay couples adopting is not child abuse, abusing a child is child abuse. "
So by no evidence.. no one can believe in their own god? |
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I agree he was hung out to dry by channel 5 and big brother. in the task the other housemates were asked lightweight questions about how many boob jobs or sexual partners they have had but when it came to him he was hit with this quote, also for the first time the other housemates evicted a fellow housemate not the public .perhaps channel 5 didn't trust the public . |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse.
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion
No it doesn't. It's not child abuse at all, you can't just claim stuff as "beliefs" that have no evidence.
You can't say "all white men are rapists" as it's simply not true. The same applies here. Gay couples adopting is not child abuse, abusing a child is child abuse.
So by no evidence.. no one can believe in their own god?"
Their own beliefs should not affect someone else. Claiming criminal abuse is detrimental to others and affects society, and saying something that can incite hatred is wrong. Choosing to believe in a God doesn't affect others. |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse.
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion
No it doesn't. It's not child abuse at all, you can't just claim stuff as "beliefs" that have no evidence.
You can't say "all white men are rapists" as it's simply not true. The same applies here. Gay couples adopting is not child abuse, abusing a child is child abuse.
So by no evidence.. no one can believe in their own god?
Their own beliefs should not affect someone else. Claiming criminal abuse is detrimental to others and affects society, and saying something that can incite hatred is wrong. Choosing to believe in a God doesn't affect others. "
If you believe in a god and believe what that God says then it will effect others. Everyones entitled to an opinion unless it upsets the Pc brigade |
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"In what context did he say that
As if any context would make it okay.
He said as a Christian, he cannot condone it. It's removing the choice from the child being adopted, and that it's child abuse.
It would make every difference in what context he said it... as you can't just say it without the context.
So if hos religious beliefs mean that he thinks homosexuality is a sin etc then he would be entitled to think 2 men adopting a child would be child abuse... any abuse isn't always physical .... and like I said at the beginning I DON'T agree with his opinion
No it doesn't. It's not child abuse at all, you can't just claim stuff as "beliefs" that have no evidence.
You can't say "all white men are rapists" as it's simply not true. The same applies here. Gay couples adopting is not child abuse, abusing a child is child abuse.
So by no evidence.. no one can believe in their own god?
Their own beliefs should not affect someone else. Claiming criminal abuse is detrimental to others and affects society, and saying something that can incite hatred is wrong. Choosing to believe in a God doesn't affect others.
If you believe in a god and believe what that God says then it will effect others. Everyones entitled to an opinion unless it upsets the Pc brigade"
That's not true. You can believe in God and not accuse people of child abuse. |
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He's such a practising Christian that him and his brothers had a pub that was shut down for selling firearms and drugs! He supports a party that is anti immigration yet he himself is from Jamaica?! He's disgusting |
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"Not if your god that you believe in preaches it.
Where in the bible does it say gay couple who adopt are child abusers?
I have no idea.. I'm an atheist"
It doesn't say it at all. It's a personal interpretation as the bible hasn't progressed alongside society. Even the Pope is preaching forgiveness and acceptance this year. Winston is just spreading hatred. |
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"Not if your god that you believe in preaches it.
Where in the bible does it say gay couple who adopt are child abusers?
I have no idea.. I'm an atheist
It doesn't say it at all. It's a personal interpretation as the bible hasn't progressed alongside society. Even the Pope is preaching forgiveness and acceptance this year. Winston is just spreading hatred. "
If it's personal interpretation and god isn't proven .. then it is an opinion wether you agree with it or not... that's been my whole point all along thank you for finally agreeing with me |
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"Not if your god that you believe in preaches it.
Where in the bible does it say gay couple who adopt are child abusers?
I have no idea.. I'm an atheist
It doesn't say it at all. It's a personal interpretation as the bible hasn't progressed alongside society. Even the Pope is preaching forgiveness and acceptance this year. Winston is just spreading hatred.
If it's personal interpretation and god isn't proven .. then it is an opinion wether you agree with it or not... that's been my whole point all along thank you for finally agreeing with me"
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"If you read the first point and the points in between it makes sense.. Thanks for the debate though enjoyed it x"
"I believe that gay couples who adopt children are child abusers because of my religion" and "gay couples who adopt children are child abusers" are not the same statements. You've misunderstood. |
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"I've not misunderstood at all and I've not contradicted myself. X have a good day"
One is a statement of fact and one is an opinion or belief (which in itself is misinformed). You've clearly misunderstood that there's a difference between the two types of phrases. |
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If he's belief is the same as his opinion I'm sure he doesn't have to add "as per.my religious beliefs" at the end of every sentence... like you don't have to add the fact that you like anal each time due to your name x |
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"If he's belief is the same as his opinion I'm sure he doesn't have to add "as per.my religious beliefs" at the end of every sentence... like you don't have to add the fact that you like anal each time due to your name x"
I think when you're a representative of a political party and you're in the public eye, you do need to clarify inflammatory statements or keep quiet. I don't like anal so that'd be unnecessary. |
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"If he's belief is the same as his opinion I'm sure he doesn't have to add "as per.my religious beliefs" at the end of every sentence... like you don't have to add the fact that you like anal each time due to your name x
I think when you're a representative of a political party and you're in the public eye, you do need to clarify inflammatory statements or keep quiet. I don't like anal so that'd be unnecessary. "
I think when we live in the media society we do today your only allowed an opinion if it's pc correct |
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