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over a year ago
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For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
 ) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs?  |
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over a year ago
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Not something I would consider doing....just wrong. I'm sure not all men are as you describe...maybe you pick some bad uns? Or am I a bit off track here? |
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs? "
Nope, some are very good and you don't need to remind them, others will try it on xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs? "
condoms every time
I was taught right by my parents - come prepared |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wearing a condom is like fucking wet concrete so all rubber fannies can block me now."
Well next time you fuck wet concrete, I do so hope it's actually quick drying cement  . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Never had a guy try to fuck me without condoms. They've all been really good. Only one guy forgot condoms for a meet, and it was back when I was using condoms for soft play, and it was a soft meet (so not quite the same thing).
Most guys have brought quite a few condoms, and one nice guy actually left us a few that we happened to say were nice.
Overall, the guys we have met have been great with condom use 
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I can honestly say that I have only met two men like those you describe OP.
My most regular friend buys his in bulk and is always ready to suit up in any situation. He's adept at quick changes in club situations and never keeps me or any one else waiting.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs?
condoms every time
I was taught right by my parents - come prepared "
Because they weren't? 
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Wearing a condom is like fucking wet concrete so all rubber fannies can block me now.
Well next time you fuck wet concrete, I do so hope it's actually quick drying cement ."
You got there before me. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs? "
Not the majority and never with couples but yes, single men have turned up with no condoms and looked amazed when we produce them and yes they did have safe sex on their profiles. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I've notticed the oposite a few people when sat on top have tried to slip the tip in before ive got one on.
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I apologise for the mental image of three woman sitting astride you . Of course you may ne bi, but my image had women |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've only experienced reluctance to use a condom once. That meet was cut short. Everyone else has turned up with condoms and has use them. I'm always surprised when i see the amount that have similar experiences to yours, OP. |
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Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs?
I'm in Cambs and I've always got some with me 
But do you use them is the point!"
Yes, it would be a waste having them with me otherwise |
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over a year ago
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"I see posts like this regularly but I have never met anyone who's tried not to use them. I don't have to ask, it's just a given. "
Maybe it's me. I must be so amazing that all thoughts of protection goes out the window and "he makes his move". My immediate response is to give the look of death, point at the cock and demand "condom"! |
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"I see posts like this regularly but I have never met anyone who's tried not to use them. I don't have to ask, it's just a given.
Maybe it's me. I must be so amazing that all thoughts of protection goes out the window and "he makes his move". My immediate response is to give the look of death, point at the cock and demand "condom"!"
Just a thought, not sure if the look of death or the actual condom causes a withering . |
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"I wouldn't dream of turning up without one. Besides the total lack of respect, I would have no clue as to your sexual history and vice versa.
One?"
I'm glad i wasn't the only one that thought that |
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"I see posts like this regularly but I have never met anyone who's tried not to use them. I don't have to ask, it's just a given.
Maybe it's me. I must be so amazing that all thoughts of protection goes out the window and "he makes his move". My immediate response is to give the look of death, point at the cock and demand "condom"!
Just a thought, not sure if the look of death or the actual condom causes a withering ."
I think it's just cos I look skanky |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
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This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.  |
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"I wouldn't dream of turning up without one. Besides the total lack of respect, I would have no clue as to your sexual history and vice versa.
One?"
I'm not that lucky :D |
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"Maybe it's just Cambs, never been an issue for me & I've never had to ask.
Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns. "
And malteasers  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Maybe it's just Cambs, never been an issue for me & I've never had to ask.
Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns.
And malteasers "
And Pooch for some intelligent conversation. |
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"Maybe it's just Cambs, never been an issue for me & I've never had to ask.
Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns.
And malteasers "
You had me at Malteasers... |
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I only meet as a couple, but I have to supply my own as I'm allergic to latex. Cant even use Durex latex free ones. God knows what else I'm allergic to.
Everyone so far has been good about it. But then my other half would go nuts if they weren't. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out. "
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p |
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over a year ago
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out. "
So why would you not use the condoms the guy brought? |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p"
Try keeping them in your socks |
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs? "
Maybe it is a local thing...I feel like I've experienced this quite a lot! 
Or maybe the people I've met just don't have the respect for me or their health that I'd hope for them. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p"
I tend to disagree matey.
A small fabric case like one for earphones tucked down the side of your undies is unobtrusive and easily done and can easily hold 3 or 4 love gloves. The ladies I have met compliment the creativity of being subtle and prepared. It makes meets go smoother.
And I end up giving other guys gloves in moresome scenarios.
It takes a little planning that's all.
#Justsaying. |
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over a year ago
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"For many years now as a single woman I've only ever had one guy who didn't supply his own condoms. No big deal as I had some.
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this.
I get it that sex is better without condoms but tough titties (not mine
) I want to minimise risks.
Do your stats match with mine ladies, or is it just Cambs?
Maybe it is a local thing...I feel like I've experienced this quite a lot!
Or maybe the people I've met just don't have the respect for me or their health that I'd hope for them. "
But they probably think you look clean. So it was ok |
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OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males. Also l have run into women who have tried to suggest sex without them and l have had to say no.
I cimment as someone who posted a thread last year about being in MMF situations and the other guys wanting to borrow my condoms. I now have a policy of not giving any away.
As for where do you put them. I have a variety of difference sized coin purses or washbags depending on whether it is a spa ,a club or a meet. The difficulty being fitting not only a variety of condoms including latex and flavoured in the purse but also lube and antibacterial hand gel. The issue with publicly holding condom containers is the concern that some women will discount the men that are prepared as chancers who will shag anything rather than seeing them as sensible and prepared.
I would also say sex with a condom cannot by definition be as pleasurable as sex without for male. But it is still pleasurable with a condom and as it can save your life, and save a person from infection l am always puzzled why people do not want to use them. |
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over a year ago
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males. "
Oh learn to read! |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p"
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think. |
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males.
Oh learn to read!"
So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this."!
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males.
Oh learn to read!So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this."!
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Majority of my experiences! Hardly condemning ALL men! Hardly a sweeping statement. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
So why would you not use the condoms the guy brought?"
Because they may have had them in their wallet for 20 years. I don't trust them so use my own. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think."
That would be very useful. The only ones I have seen are too big though, they just look too clumpy.  |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think.
That would be very useful. The only ones I have seen are too big though, they just look too clumpy. "
Take a look at Signature Latex.
They'd be happy to make a custom one in a different size or colour. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think."
I have a silver wrist wallet/clubber purse - you can fit 3 or 4 in. In Chams the other week a gent had an arm one made by Karrimor that he used when walking. |
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males.
Oh learn to read!So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this."!
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Majority of my experiences! Hardly condemning ALL men! Hardly a sweeping statement."
You may have meant to say that, but l suggest that is not how it reads. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think.
That would be very useful. The only ones I have seen are too big though, they just look too clumpy.
Take a look at Signature Latex.
They'd be happy to make a custom one in a different size or colour."
They look great, thanks! |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males.
Oh learn to read!So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this."!
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Majority of my experiences! Hardly condemning ALL men! Hardly a sweeping statement.
You may have meant to say that, but l suggest that is not how it reads."
Not to you perhaps but it read that way to me. |
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over a year ago
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
In clubs as a guy though youve got no where to put them, they have to stay in the locker women jave bras for storage :p
Wrist wallet?
I have a friend who now makes latex wrist wallets because guys at fet clubs were complaining latex doesn't tend to have pockets and they had nowhere to keep cash and stuff.
The concept would work as well in a swinging club, I'd think.
That would be very useful. The only ones I have seen are too big though, they just look too clumpy.
Take a look at Signature Latex.
They'd be happy to make a custom one in a different size or colour.
They look great, thanks! "
They'd be pretty easy to make in fabric too, if you didn't fancy latex.
Although latex is wipe clean |
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"OP's statement is another sweeping generalisation about men. There are always a few who will try it on but condemn them and not all males.
Oh learn to read!So what's this post about? The reluctance of men to use them. Even in the same evening as having used one or two, he might still try and get in unjacketed. I have experienced the majority of men being like this."!
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Majority of my experiences! Hardly condemning ALL men! Hardly a sweeping statement.
You may have meant to say that, but l suggest that is not how it reads."
I wrote exactly what I meant to write "I have experienced the majority of men being like this". How can you perceive that not to be what is written? |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
So why would you not use the condoms the guy brought?
Because they may have had them in their wallet for 20 years. I don't trust them so use my own."
So why does it matter if men have them or not, when you don't trust their condoms if they have them?
Why would they trust that yours were in date, or hadn't been tampered with? |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
So why would you not use the condoms the guy brought?
Because they may have had them in their wallet for 20 years. I don't trust them so use my own.
So why does it matter if men have them or not, when you don't trust their condoms if they have them?
Why would they trust that yours were in date, or hadn't been tampered with?"
I might be slightly miffed if he didn't have a condom but wouldn't be all that bothered. I understand why men don't carry them.
Not saying they would trust mine. Just saying what I do.
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" Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns. "
It may be my size or shape, but only ever had slipping condom issues with skyns. |
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"OP, I have found that many men in clubs aren't carrying condoms and expect me to supply them. I find that annoying. I wouldn't use theirs anyway but I want to know they are prepared to be safe.
This for me too.
Had some try and go without but not many. A firm stare sorts them out.
So why would you not use the condoms the guy brought?
Because they may have had them in their wallet for 20 years. I don't trust them so use my own.
So why does it matter if men have them or not, when you don't trust their condoms if they have them?
Why would they trust that yours were in date, or hadn't been tampered with?
I might be slightly miffed if he didn't have a condom but wouldn't be all that bothered. I understand why men don't carry them.
Not saying they would trust mine. Just saying what I do.
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A little man bag with a few bits in works for me, saves running back to a locker. And as others have mentioned, I have also had women say they wouldn't mind if I didn't wear them, I guess there are some men and women who are more risk takers than others. |
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over a year ago
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" Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns.
It may be my size or shape, but only ever had slipping condom issues with skyns. "
Even in the regular size? I can imagine the extra large or the extra lubricated ones might be slippy for some.
I have the full range if you wish to test which provide the best performance for you. |
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" Oh and I prefer Skyns, latex free
At the moment we're all heading to Taffs as he has the Skyns.
It may be my size or shape, but only ever had slipping condom issues with skyns.
Even in the regular size? I can imagine the extra large or the extra lubricated ones might be slippy for some.
I have the full range if you wish to test which provide the best performance for you. "
Oh I like your style |
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