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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just seen the news and it April fuel duty is going up by 1p but realistly they say after the budget it will be more likey to be going up to 4p after Tax and the oil company increases. yet my pay rises have been frozen they can do that easy enough so why can't they freeze the duty????? |
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another kick in the bollocks its disgusting this gov,t using the economic debt to sack thousands bang up prices treat the old and disabled like scroungers it makes my blood boil it really does.
ok off me soap box now  |
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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago
Middlesbrough |
Well we'll soon have the top spot for fuel prices in the EU, finally champions at something! 
The fact that we pay tax on a tax is criminal. For anyone that doesn't drive this also means the cost of all travel goes up, along with everything you buy in the shops. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Really pissin me off
Working fa meself im now having ta spend a lot more on the stuff every week
Thus eventually my prices are going ta have ta go up xx  |
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i HATE buying petrol but as i work 16 miles from my house i have to drive, there are buses but they take abut n hour and a half to get to the town i work in, i would then have to walk (?!) to my office which will take me ages!!!
trouble is we are a captive audience as our dependence on cars is so huge now that we have no choice but to pay whatever price they chose to hoik it up to  |
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By *athnBobCouple
over a year ago
sandwell |
2 year pay freeze here The residue of a liebour government.
As regards fuel, as soon as we are past the risk of sub zero temperatures I am off to the cash n carry to buy a 10 gallon drum of veg oil. That's about 50p a litre. Mix it 50/50 with dino juice for a final price of 90p a litre (plus the occasional £7 fuel filter)
Also tempted by a lpg/deisal fumigation system but am yet to be convinced |
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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago
Middlesbrough |
"i HATE buying petrol but as i work 16 miles from my house i have to drive, there are buses but they take abut n hour and a half to get to the town i work in, i would then have to walk (?!) to my office which will take me ages!!!
trouble is we are a captive audience as our dependence on cars is so huge now that we have no choice but to pay whatever price they chose to hoik it up to "
Time for mass action, we all stop using our cars for a month! The govs cash cow stops, motor industry stops, Britain PLC stops (as there isn't enough public transoprt to cope) and they'd very quickly wake up and smell the coffee. The I think no fun for a month, maybe not
To think the fuel protestfew years back were because it was 80p per litre, looks a bargain now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we will soon find ourselves in the mad situation where ppl will have to give up there jobs becauce they cant afford to drive to work.buisnesses will lay off staff becauce they cant afford the extra cost of running the vans,lorries etc and other firms will just close down.the extra money the government make on the fuel duty will be lost becauce tax revenue fron buisness tax will go down when firms go to the wall  .i remember the last tory government and they gave us the hated tax excelator so i wont hold my breath on them knocking the april fuel tax rise on the head |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People have to remember that if the fuel goes up, then truck companies pay more, so the price of transporting goods goes up, so you're paying more for your pint of milk and coffee......... so don't matter if you drive or not, it affects us all.
Maybe people won't get angry with truckers next time they block up motorways or towns, as they are doing it for everyone's benefit....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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and one of the parties elected i forget who said if elected they would, if the price of oil went up they would cut the tax the same amount.
seems they have forgoten about that now, up the revalotion |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"and one of the parties elected i forget who said if elected they would, if the price of oil went up they would cut the tax the same amount.
seems they have forgoten about that now, up the revalotion "
that was the tories.never have been good at keeping promises they had in there election manifesto |
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"People have to remember that if the fuel goes up, then truck companies pay more, so the price of transporting goods goes up, so you're paying more for your pint of milk and coffee......... so don't matter if you drive or not, it affects us all.
Maybe people won't get angry with truckers next time they block up motorways or towns, as they are doing it for everyone's benefit.... "
We should all down "Tools" well apart from us men on this site! |
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"People have to remember that if the fuel goes up, then truck companies pay more, so the price of transporting goods goes up, so you're paying more for your pint of milk and coffee......... so don't matter if you drive or not, it affects us all.
Maybe people won't get angry with truckers next time they block up motorways or towns, as they are doing it for everyone's benefit....
We should all down "Tools" well apart from us men on this site! "
Yeah, but we won't.
This is the UK, people would rather grumble and carry on, it seems to be in our DNA.
Whereas when, for example, the French Government does something the population doesnt like, they take to the streets en masse and get it changed.
Plus la change...
(isnt irony delicious sometimes) |
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am a self employed contractor to a major media distributuion company,
I own the vehicle and have to pay my own fuel costs, the money the contract pays has not gone up for over 4 years, until now, the new price is a £7 per week increase, does not even cover what i am paying in increased fuel costs
wont be long before i go to the wall, along with many of the other contractors working at this company.
I resent as some one else said paying tax on a tax, it is just not right
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They reduce car tax for some cars then lump extra tax on fuel. It just dosnt seem fair somehow."
the car tax is a stupid idea.i drive a 10 yr old 2.0 petrol mondeo which costs 112.75 for 6 months road tax.a newer mk3 mondeo petrol car which is supposed to pulute less than my car will cost you 135.00 for 6 months toad tax |
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By *eppersCouple
over a year ago
telford |
I think it's about time that the population of this once great nation stood up and be counted, otherwise it will get worse, the people in government are supposed to be acting on behalf of the people, nows it time we toldthem do as we ask or we will vote you out, and we will take to the streets and vote with our feet coz we can't afford to drive there lol, we need another peoples champion not more yes men, |
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By *edhotminxWoman
over a year ago
Turn left at the Singing Ringing Tree |
There's an email campaign that's just started doing the rounds, to hit the petrol giants where it hurts. Instead of blockading refineries like they did in 2000, the idea is to exercise consumer power.
They want everyone to avoid buying petrol from BP and Esso petrol stations. Hopefully, as their revenue takes a dive, BP and Esso will reduce the pump price to entice the drivers back ..... and then the competitors will follow suit as they don't want to lose customers.
Who knows, it might very well work ....... |
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"There's an email campaign that's just started doing the rounds, to hit the petrol giants where it hurts. Instead of blockading refineries like they did in 2000, the idea is to exercise consumer power.
They want everyone to avoid buying petrol from BP and Esso petrol stations. Hopefully, as their revenue takes a dive, BP and Esso will reduce the pump price to entice the drivers back ..... and then the competitors will follow suit as they don't want to lose customers.
Who knows, it might very well work ......."
Thanks for that, I will look out for that e-mail campaign! |
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"There's an email campaign that's just started doing the rounds, to hit the petrol giants where it hurts. Instead of blockading refineries like they did in 2000, the idea is to exercise consumer power.
They want everyone to avoid buying petrol from BP and Esso petrol stations. Hopefully, as their revenue takes a dive, BP and Esso will reduce the pump price to entice the drivers back ..... and then the competitors will follow suit as they don't want to lose customers.
Who knows, it might very well work ......."
So why not Shell and Texaco?.....and do Jet not count?....or do they always sell fuel so much cheaper than BP and Esso?
Wake up to the fact that they are all as bad as one another. |
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"i HATE buying petrol but as i work 16 miles from my house i have to drive, there are buses but they take abut n hour and a half to get to the town i work in, i would then have to walk (?!) to my office which will take me ages!!!
trouble is we are a captive audience as our dependence on cars is so huge now that we have no choice but to pay whatever price they chose to hoik it up to
Time for mass action, we all stop using our cars for a month! The govs cash cow stops, motor industry stops, Britain PLC stops (as there isn't enough public transoprt to cope) and they'd very quickly wake up and smell the coffee. The I think no fun for a month, maybe not
To think the fuel protestfew years back were because it was 80p per litre, looks a bargain now. "
I would disagree. With the global warming hoax governments want us to stop using the car and use public transport more. They are also syaing our roads are tgoo congested. Wait until they breing in charing you for every mile you drive. City centres being the most expensive. I predict in about 5 - 10 years the working class people like me will be unable to afford to drive a car. Driving will another thing for risch people only. Well unless you are prepared to stop going out, buy clothes less often etc. |
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"They reduce car tax for some cars then lump extra tax on fuel. It just dosnt seem fair somehow.
the car tax is a stupid idea.i drive a 10 yr old 2.0 petrol mondeo which costs 112.75 for 6 months road tax.a newer mk3 mondeo petrol car which is supposed to pulute less than my car will cost you 135.00 for 6 months toad tax "
Apparently if you have a hybrid electric car the road tax is £0 |
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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago
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"There's an email campaign that's just started doing the rounds, to hit the petrol giants where it hurts. Instead of blockading refineries like they did in 2000, the idea is to exercise consumer power.
They want everyone to avoid buying petrol from BP and Esso petrol stations. Hopefully, as their revenue takes a dive, BP and Esso will reduce the pump price to entice the drivers back ..... and then the competitors will follow suit as they don't want to lose customers.
Who knows, it might very well work ......."
No chance of that working and hey its not exactly the oil companys ripping us off ... Do u know for every £1.31 you spend on fuel only 49 p goes to the companys the rest is tax ......... Time for the people to stand up n b counted and take a leaf out of the french book |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No chance of that working and hey its not exactly the oil companys ripping us off ... Do u know for every £1.31 you spend on fuel only 49 p goes to the companys the rest is tax ......... Time for the people to stand up n b counted and take a leaf out of the french book "
There's no doubt a huge percentage of the price of a litre of fuel goes to the Exchequer in tax but if it isn't going to come from fuel, where would people be prepared to pay more tax to make up the loss to the public purse?
More VAT on everything? Higher National Insurance contri's? More Income or Inheritance Tax? |
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By *edhotminxWoman
over a year ago
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"So why not Shell and Texaco?.....and do Jet not count?....or do they always sell fuel so much cheaper than BP and Esso?
Wake up to the fact that they are all as bad as one another."
Am well aware that all the oil companies are as bad as each other, but by targeting two of them then you haven't got everyone running around like headless chickens not knowing which to avoid etc.
And am also aware that the majority of the fuel price at the pumps is what is paid to the Exchequer in duty and VAT.
However, it doesn't just stop there. Fuel prices go up, the distribution costs increase (some hauliers have said that the latest increase has seen their fuel bill jump by an extra £6k a month). This will have to be passed onto the retailers, who then pass the price onto the customer - us.
There is never going to be an easy answer to any taxes, especially in today's climate. But this Government said, in their manifesto, that they would introduce a "fuel duty stabiliser" ........ ah well, another case of never believe the word of a Politician! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's an email campaign that's just started doing the rounds, to hit the petrol giants where it hurts. Instead of blockading refineries like they did in 2000, the idea is to exercise consumer power.
They want everyone to avoid buying petrol from BP and Esso petrol stations. Hopefully, as their revenue takes a dive, BP and Esso will reduce the pump price to entice the drivers back ..... and then the competitors will follow suit as they don't want to lose customers.
Who knows, it might very well work .......
No chance of that working and hey its not exactly the oil companys ripping us off ... Do u know for every £1.31 you spend on fuel only 49 p goes to the companys the rest is tax ......... Time for the people to stand up n b counted and take a leaf out of the french book "
I don't like it but i look at it slightly differently.
I pay tax, i guess most of you pay tax but only up to a max of 40%. Now if we abolished VAT we might have to pay up to 50% or more. Not good at all. With VAT and fuel tax even those who avoid paying tax have to put something in to the system. For example many people doing jobs for cash in vans might not pay income tax. But they do pay something on fuel. Not ideal but at least it stops some paying nothing at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The sensible thing would be to abolish VAT on home produced goods, bugger what the EEC might say.
That way more people would buy British thus creating a need and creating manufacturing jobs to fill that need.
Just like in the mid '60's when they had the I'm Backing Britain campaign, Union Jack carrier bags etc, England really did swing back then!  R
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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago
Back of Beyond |
Problem with fuel tax rises is that its the biggest contributor to inflation we have.
This last rise in january and inflation jumped 1%, the banks starts panicking and wants to put up interest rates. So thats a double whammy for us all, tax goes up and so do all our mortgages.
Wait until April, that fuel duty rise will make the one in january look small by comparison. Interest rates will go up if its introduced, with the encumbant rise in all our mortgages as well. We have gone from a recession economy to an econmony in recession with raging inflation in 12 months. All because this government thinks they can control the black hole by taxing fuel until we bleed money. |
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