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He should get them on the council house list now. Or he could use some of his savings to put into an endowment for when they turn 21 and graduate from University. They'll have a nice pot for a deposit on a flat in W1. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! "
. He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are. |
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Presumably he means if they didn't have help from him and their mum. Which isn't exactly unusual, I wouldn't have been able to buy my first house when I did without help from my mam and dad. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are."
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are."
Which real world??? The Eton real world? Sex acts with pigs etc  |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it. "
I couldn't have bought a £70k house where I live without it being in an utter, utter shithole. And I'm not in a pricey area. Of course it *can* be done but not in most of the south east. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! "
I take it these are the children that he left in a pub |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it. "
You couldn't get a shed round here for £70,000 |
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You need some context here.
"Asked whether he feared his children would be shut out of home ownership, he told LBC radio: ‘I absolutely worry about it. This is why this is the first announcement I have made in 2016 of a series of steps to build more homes.’
Mr Cameron added: ‘All of us who own our own homes, you can remember the magic of that first moment, the first set of keys.
‘I want this to be a country where if you work hard, you’re putting the hours in, you should be able to own a flat or a house of your own.’ "
So he couldn't say no very well, could he. He was speaking generally about all children their age.
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The average price when my ex husband and I bought our house in the area we did was over £200k for a 3 bed and that was at the height of the financial collaspe. No way could we have done that without help from family. Cameron is making a very valid point that house prices are excessive to get into the market in the first place |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it.
I couldn't have bought a £70k house where I live without it being in an utter, utter shithole. And I'm not in a pricey area. Of course it *can* be done but not in most of the south east."
It's why he bought something That needed work. When we first started looking we were in the £135k price range and the banks simply wouldn't touch us on them, it's worked out a lot better for us in the end.
Even though we hit all the tick boxes e.g how much we earn and could we pay even in the high interest brackets multiple times over, we were still decline on the first attempt.
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it. "
Sadly in London £70k will barely buy you a garden shed!  |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it.
You couldn't get a shed round here for £70,000"
We've got a lovely little terrace tucked out of the way with horses and cows for neighbours, the cellar was flooded and the attic ceiling falling down when we bought it tho
Probably start at around £100k now that we've pretty much finished sorting everything |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it.
You couldn't get a shed round here for £70,000
We've got a lovely little terrace tucked out of the way with horses and cows for neighbours, the cellar was flooded and the attic ceiling falling down when we bought it tho
Probably start at around £100k now that we've pretty much finished sorting everything "
There is a huge housing issue in London, it is like social cleansing, nurses, teachers, policemen, train drivers etc simply cannot afford to buy. And renting is not much better. It is a massive issue that needs addressing if the capital wants to continue functioning. |
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"Cameron-real world..
f**k off before i wet myself..
la la land if anyone believes that..
 . Yes and he also visits his local pub sometimes ."
To leave his kids there |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it.
You couldn't get a shed round here for £70,000
We've got a lovely little terrace tucked out of the way with horses and cows for neighbours, the cellar was flooded and the attic ceiling falling down when we bought it tho
Probably start at around £100k now that we've pretty much finished sorting everything
There is a huge housing issue in London, it is like social cleansing, nurses, teachers, policemen, train drivers etc simply cannot afford to buy. And renting is not much better. It is a massive issue that needs addressing if the capital wants to continue functioning."
It's only the Southeast that is so expensive. In Norfolk there are 3 bed houses for £150,000. If you dont mind, some of our seaside towns have very cheap prices and actually properties outside are not selling that well.
So, yes, we need many more houses built but we also need to distribute jobs and populations more evenly, and that means infrastructure, access to markets and telecommunications. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
We bought our first house at 21
£10,500 minimum deposit before we would be accepted on a £70,000 house.
It needed a full refurb but it's the only sensible way we could of got a foot on the ladder.
We pay £245 a month repayments, it's not impossible at all for young people you've just got to be realistic about it.
You couldn't get a shed round here for £70,000
We've got a lovely little terrace tucked out of the way with horses and cows for neighbours, the cellar was flooded and the attic ceiling falling down when we bought it tho
Probably start at around £100k now that we've pretty much finished sorting everything
There is a huge housing issue in London, it is like social cleansing, nurses, teachers, policemen, train drivers etc simply cannot afford to buy. And renting is not much better. It is a massive issue that needs addressing if the capital wants to continue functioning.
It's only the Southeast that is so expensive. In Norfolk there are 3 bed houses for £150,000. If you dont mind, some of our seaside towns have very cheap prices and actually properties outside are not selling that well.
So, yes, we need many more houses built but we also need to distribute jobs and populations more evenly, and that means infrastructure, access to markets and telecommunications."
Exactly - jobs are the key thing. I could get a house for £70k in County Durham if I wanted to have no amenities and drive everywhere, including an hour to get to work. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are."
You appear to have taken leave of your senses? |
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Should see the average price in my North Bucks village. Yet head an hour North and it's cheap as chips.
London has a knock on affect to the commuter belt too.
Was lucky I had the Bank or Dad to get me off the ground to my first house.
He's a man of the people is our Dave. |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
You appear to have taken leave of your senses?"
. Just trying to be realistic . |
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"i see our PM has stated on radio that he is worried his children " wont be able to get on the housing ladder" ?
WTF? IS HE REALY SERIOUS !!! . He is just making a very valid point and showing how difficult it is for young people to get on the housing ladder .
Just because your parents are rich does not necessarily mean that they will give you money for a deposit .
At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
You appear to have taken leave of your senses?. Just trying to be realistic . "
one persons realism is several tens of thousands peoples wtf is that person on..
on your travels why not ask ten random people on the street whether they agree with you..?
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At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
A master stroke in delusion right there folks  "
BUSSEY, Looking thriough the posts I dont see any point of _iew from you. If you think others on here are deluded you need to put an alternative rationale. not just call people deluded or stupid. They have been brave enough to write their ideas.
Is this because you have no ideas. What is your _iew of the housing market? How do you see Cameron's contribution to how the house price has risen? Whey is your solution? xxx |
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At least David Cameron lives in the real world and appreciates how hard some things are.
A master stroke in delusion right there folks
BUSSEY, Looking thriough the posts I dont see any point of _iew from you. If you think others on here are deluded you need to put an alternative rationale. not just call people deluded or stupid. They have been brave enough to write their ideas.
Is this because you have no ideas. What is your _iew of the housing market? How do you see Cameron's contribution to how the house price has risen? Whey is your solution? xxx"
To say Cameron lives in the real world IS deluded.
He may be aware of a world outside that of his own, but he certainly doesn't live in that world.
His 'reality' is far removed than that of the vast majority of those he serves.
I owe no one any solutions nor alternatives nor explanations nor _iews in exchange for holding those thoughts.
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Well, you have no ideas and it doesn't matter to me.
He certainly does live in the real world; maybe not in yours but you can be sure that, because of his job - in the real world (we all have one, even him) - he is far better briefed and hence has a far deeper understanding of the housing crisis than you have... and he has the balls to put himself out there express a point of _iew and find solutions; which, by your own words, is more than you. |
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"Well, you have no ideas and it doesn't matter to me.
He certainly does live in the real world; maybe not in yours but you can be sure that, because of his job - in the real world (we all have one, even him) - he is far better briefed and hence has a far deeper understanding of the housing crisis than you have... and he has the balls to put himself out there express a point of _iew and find solutions; which, by your own words, is more than you."
OK. Night Night x |
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Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution  |
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"Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution "
Because we agree that as a society, all humans have a right to existence and basic facilities such as a home, food, water, clothes etc.
Businesses do not have these rights. If you cannot see why, then I worry. |
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How much are houses gonna be when Camorons kids grow up? If he's worried they can't afford one then i think we should all be worried...
or is that the plan? that we should panic buy as many houses as we can afford now coz they're gonna be worth millions soon. Is the housing bubble collapsing or something.
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"Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution
Because we agree that as a society, all humans have a right to existence and basic facilities such as a home, food, water, clothes etc.
Businesses do not have these rights. If you cannot see why, then I worry."
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Maybe your confused?... I'm talking about the ability to buy and own house, not the right to be housed!.
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"Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution
Because we agree that as a society, all humans have a right to existence and basic facilities such as a home, food, water, clothes etc.
Businesses do not have these rights. If you cannot see why, then I worry..
Maybe your confused?... I'm talking about the ability to buy and own house, not the right to be housed!.
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Subsidising people to help them exist is utterly different to subsidising businesses. |
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"Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution
Because we agree that as a society, all humans have a right to existence and basic facilities such as a home, food, water, clothes etc.
Businesses do not have these rights. If you cannot see why, then I worry..
Maybe your confused?... I'm talking about the ability to buy and own house, not the right to be housed!.
Subsidising people to help them exist is utterly different to subsidising businesses. "
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No your still not there are you.
I'm talking about owning a house, that is not subsidising people to exist, you can house them and I'm pretty sure everybody agrees about government housing schemes.
But it's got nothing to do with subsidising people to buy houses! |
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Tell him to get them living or working in Liverpool, you will eventually be eligible for a £1 house. You will however have to spend a fortune on it refurbishing it completely but he can rest assured that they will be on the property ladder. |
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There is an obsession with home ownership in the UK that doesn't exist in some European countries, where they are happy to rent. Unfortunately, in the current UK market, private rents can be higher than the equivalent mortgage payments on the same type of property. Now that is screwed up! Since I bought my first home 30 years ago, the growth in prices has outstripped the increase in average earnings, leaving it increasingly difficult for current 1st time buyers to get on the housing ladder. As for future increases, who really knows? Those who buy property as an investment would hope that it continues, but let's hope that common sense prevails.  |
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"There is an obsession with home ownership in the UK that doesn't exist in some European countries, where they are happy to rent. Unfortunately, in the current UK market, private rents can be higher than the equivalent mortgage payments on the same type of property. Now that is screwed up! Since I bought my first home 30 years ago, the growth in prices has outstripped the increase in average earnings, leaving it increasingly difficult for current 1st time buyers to get on the housing ladder. As for future increases, who really knows? Those who buy property as an investment would hope that it continues, but let's hope that common sense prevails. "
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That was my point, other European countries have rent control and really they look to very long term profit ie 20-30 years, here everybody looks for 5 year increases because in reality there houses and the price increases subsidies there living standards!.
Then they all moan... That blimey my kids can't afford a house.
No shit Sherlock, none of them were complaining about all the holidays and cars they were having on THEIR house price increase |
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There seems to be a misunderstanding of basic economics. If demand exceeds supply prices will go up. It does not matter one bit who is buying Buy to let..landlords or individuals there is a finite amount of houses and that number is insufficient in the Southeast - and always will be. If you want to buy a house you will need to buy one that is not as big as you'd like, is in the wrong area or needs work... but you do need to get on the ladder..dont wait till you can afford to buy a house like your parents. The reason is once you are on the ladder when you sell it you will have a profit for the deposit on your next...and so on..or buy a house that needs work or in a poor area. Poor areas have great old houses that are dirt cheap but the areas don't stay poor rundown areas get bought up by yuppies later on.
Or move away...people for centuries have taken their families to better their circumstances. There is no shortage in the rest of the country. |
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and there's one of the problems. for the last 30 odd years the establishment has wrongly convinced the population that property is a "ladder" and people are measured by how far they have managed to "climb" it |
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"and there's one of the problems. for the last 30 odd years the establishment has wrongly convinced the population that property is a "ladder" and people are measured by how far they have managed to "climb" it"
The ladder is you buy a small place then you move on and buy a bigger one etc...its not like an escalator. There is only one problem. The shortage of properties and if you stand around criticising those who buy you will not go anywhere. It's not buy to let or rich kids the rented sector IN THE SOUTHEAST has exactly the same problem. There are not enough houses IN THE SOUTHEAST. Again. Supply is exceeded by demand. If you cap rents you will find that people are subletting ... that is called arbitrage...The problem is concentration in the south east and the lack of infrastructure transport and jobs elsewhere. The uk is not a big country we could easily make better use of resources in the Northeast and northwest and east anglia and Devon and Cornwall. But controls aside from those that make markets better never work. |
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It's already expensive in East anglia. Only way I can afford somewhere is a house share and thats with working full time and claiming any additional benifits I can just to make rent and cover bills. Last time I looked at renting a place of my own the minimum rent for a place started at about the 550-600 a month and don't even get me started on buying. I looked at buying years ago when I had a better job. 95000 for a ground floor flat not even a house just seemed ridiculous |
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"There seems to be a misunderstanding of basic economics. If demand exceeds supply prices will go up. It does not matter one bit who is buying Buy to let..landlords or individuals there is a finite amount of houses and that number is insufficient in the Southeast - and always will be. If you want to buy a house you will need to buy one that is not as big as you'd like, is in the wrong area or needs work... but you do need to get on the ladder..dont wait till you can afford to buy a house like your parents. The reason is once you are on the ladder when you sell it you will have a profit for the deposit on your next...and so on..or buy a house that needs work or in a poor area. Poor areas have great old houses that are dirt cheap but the areas don't stay poor rundown areas get bought up by yuppies later on.
Or move away...people for centuries have taken their families to better their circumstances. There is no shortage in the rest of the country."
At least three misconceptions there. Nobody needs to get on the ladder, simply want. There is no guarantee that you will make a profit on a house in the short term, particularly if you bought at it's peak. Poor areas don't stay poor? Being a Northerner I can say that is one of the funniest things I've seen on here, as there are numerous places up here that would contradict that statement. I'm sure there plenty of places in the South too! |
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"It's already expensive in East anglia. Only way I can afford somewhere is a house share and thats with working full time and claiming any additional benifits I can just to make rent and cover bills. Last time I looked at renting a place of my own the minimum rent for a place started at about the 550-600 a month and don't even get me started on buying. I looked at buying years ago when I had a better job. 95000 for a ground floor flat not even a house just seemed ridiculous "
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"and there's one of the problems. for the last 30 odd years the establishment has wrongly convinced the population that property is a "ladder" and people are measured by how far they have managed to "climb" it
The ladder is you buy a small place then you move on and buy a bigger one etc...its not like an escalator. There is only one problem. The shortage of properties and if you stand around criticising those who buy you will not go anywhere. It's not buy to let or rich kids the rented sector IN THE SOUTHEAST has exactly the same problem. There are not enough houses IN THE SOUTHEAST. Again. Supply is exceeded by demand. If you cap rents you will find that people are subletting ... that is called arbitrage...The problem is concentration in the south east and the lack of infrastructure transport and jobs elsewhere. The uk is not a big country we could easily make better use of resources in the Northeast and northwest and east anglia and Devon and Cornwall. But controls aside from those that make markets better never work."
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That's the whole point of government, there's something's that are just too big for private enterprise.
Now if the government had done any reasonable job, the south east wouldn't be so out of sync with the rest of this small island |
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"It's already expensive in East anglia. Only way I can afford somewhere is a house share and thats with working full time and claiming any additional benifits I can just to make rent and cover bills. Last time I looked at renting a place of my own the minimum rent for a place started at about the 550-600 a month and don't even get me started on buying. I looked at buying years ago when I had a better job. 95000 for a ground floor flat not even a house just seemed ridiculous "
You can buy 2 bed flats in Ipswich today for 90000. A few miles away in Gt Yarmouth you can have a 2 bed house for £60000...and as I said rundown areas do get revived. They attract investors and govt. Funds. I used to live in Woolwich s london. That is being transformed. Deptford before that Forest Gate. The whole of se. London is undergoing a transformation. And it was always thus. In se london you can buy cheaper places in the suburbs. Dartford Erith crayford forcexample because the prooerty and streets are becoming tired. In 10 20 years time they will change too.
I'm not saying it's easy. Prices can go down but even if you buy at the wrong time it only matters if you become a forced seller in the short term.
But that is not my main point. The shortage of property is the main problem.
If I were you I'd get on rightmove. You can get a great deal in norfolk and Suffolk at the moment.... |
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A lot of the problem with getting on the property ladder without help is that young people don't always want to make the sacrifice of giving up weekends away and holidays to save for years for that deposit. |
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"There is no shortage in property!
We've just got too much in some places and not enough in others!
Yes that's right"
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We live in a very small high density populated country!.
We can't just expand every city and town like in the US or Australia, and then once the local economy goes south and the businesses move the people follow and then what!.
The governments job is just to equal out or at least equal it as best as possible amongst the country as a whole, if you look round this country, you could say it's been a 40 year abject failure with large growth in some areas and large retraction in others. |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem."
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. "
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That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. .
That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing"
I've always thought there should be more incentives for businesses around location - for example there will be hosepipe bans in the SE while reservoirs are full to bursting up here. And so much freight still comes through the SE ports and is driven to the other end of the country on lorries, while North Sea ports have excess capacity. |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. .
That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing And so much freight still comes through the SE ports and is driven to the other end of the country on lorries, while North Sea ports have excess capacity. "
... have you been reading my mind?
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. .
That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing And so much freight still comes through the SE ports and is driven to the other end of the country on lorries, while North Sea ports have excess capacity. ... have you been reading my mind?
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Ha! Not as far as I'm aware, I'm always banging on about this stuff as part of my day job (nobody listens then either  ) |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. .
That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing And so much freight still comes through the SE ports and is driven to the other end of the country on lorries, while North Sea ports have excess capacity. ... have you been reading my mind?
Ha! Not as far as I'm aware, I'm always banging on about this stuff as part of my day job (nobody listens then either )"
It was the bit about northern ports specially |
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"Some thoughts!
If it's wrong for national industries to get "subsidies"because they don't make enough profit..
Then why the fuck do we think it's good to " subsidise" people who can't afford a house because they don't make enough profit?.
Building more houses solves a problem... But we don't have a housing shortage problem, we have a too expensive housing problem!
Now if you really wanna crash the housing market price, then that's a different question with different problems and solutions!.
People over 45 sold out to Margret Thatcher and this bullshit notion of home ownership, they weren't interested in "owning a house" just like todays generation aren't..
They want the money they think they'll make on owning a house!.
Problem-solution
Because we agree that as a society, all humans have a right to existence and basic facilities such as a home, food, water, clothes etc.
Businesses do not have these rights. If you cannot see why, then I worry..
Maybe your confused?... I'm talking about the ability to buy and own house, not the right to be housed!.
Subsidising people to help them exist is utterly different to subsidising businesses. .
No your still not there are you.
I'm talking about owning a house, that is not subsidising people to exist, you can house them and I'm pretty sure everybody agrees about government housing schemes.
But it's got nothing to do with subsidising people to buy houses!"
I am there, you are just talking rot.
To compare people's rights to businesses rights is silly.
I am a peasant and intend to be for as long as possible. Living without owning a house is perfectly reasonable. But your comparison still has huge holes. |
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"The houses are in the right place its having all the jobs and therefore people in the same place that's the problem.
Yes. That's right too.
We need investment in the neglected areas of the country mainly infrastructure. .
That's what I've been saying, thus notion of housing shortage is nonsense, last time I looked nearly everybody lived in a house last night... The houses are there!.
It's a coordinated government plan on infrastructure that's always been missing And so much freight still comes through the SE ports and is driven to the other end of the country on lorries, while North Sea ports have excess capacity. ... have you been reading my mind?
Ha! Not as far as I'm aware, I'm always banging on about this stuff as part of my day job (nobody listens then either )
It was the bit about northern ports specially"
It seems madness that you have ships queuing up at Harwich and the like, with the delays and costs to the businesses that creates, while there is so much capacity elsewhere. |
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