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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it." your a leeds/newcastle/liverpool (delet whichever) fan aren't you...... | |||
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"I came to hate rugby at school Im 5'4" and was hooker. which meant hanging like a scarecrow disentangling and running to the next scrum. Mind you...rugby players...wouldn't mind a loose rucking now." See now I loved playing rugby and was in the scrum until the coach decided I could run fast and I ended up being a winger | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying." Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying. Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone " Sod off, you'll sing like a canary | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying. Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone Sod off, you'll sing like a canary " Well I'm hoping like mad he's Jonny Howson or Matt Jarvis | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying." What? Are you querying what people spend their money on? What about alcohol, TV subscriptions, drugs, fast food or literally anything else that could be considered a waste of money lol. What answer are you looking for? I do it because it's an easy way to spend time with friends, it's easy to discuss, you can travel to different parts of the country with a bunch of like-minded people and when you win it's an excellent feeling. | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying. Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone " Lol...no Im just letting off steam and sharing my bemusement at the scale of peoples love of watching/following other people play football.... Just imagining a life without football... | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. " Go and watch star wars | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. " I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying. Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone Sod off, you'll sing like a canary Well I'm hoping like mad he's Jonny Howson or Matt Jarvis " Just cos yer missing Bradley | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. Go and watch star wars " Oh Star Wars, what a load of shit | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. Go and watch star wars Oh Star Wars, what a load of shit " Yup | |||
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"I love it.if you can't appreciate the variety of skills,and emotions football brings,for me,that's your loss. " Some of my most memorable moments in my life have happened following my team | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. " And the money comes from peoples irrational disproportionate obsession with the game.... | |||
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"Is there a rational reason why people should like watching football as much as they do and is it rational how much other people winning and losing affects the watchers? How much of the nations time/money is wasted watching/following football?? Again don't mean to offend...just saying. Why are you so obsessed? Are you really a footballer? Oooh, tell me you are. I won't tell anyone Sod off, you'll sing like a canary Well I'm hoping like mad he's Jonny Howson or Matt Jarvis Just cos yer missing Bradley " How's he doing for you? Oh, by the way, next time I go UNLOS I'll send a personal message to you so you don't forget who I am | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. " Jealous? Of a bunch of preened neanderthals almost entirely incapable of appreciating the finer things in life beyond buying a house, buying yr parents a house, buying another house, buying a car, buying another car, buying a girlfriend... That is NOT living to my mind. | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! " Oi you | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. Go and watch star wars Oh Star Wars, what a load of shit " I'm Going to bed, I can't watch football be disrespected Playing a game of football is the best thing I do, you might think it's sad but it's like a whole new stress free world | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! " Piss off you, you'll get a good hiding | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. " I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! Oi you " I speak the truth and you know it | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! Piss off you, you'll get a good hiding " Yes please You fairy | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. " This is very true - and I certainly understand that the vast majority of those who play football do it for the love... I, personally, find football deeply disinteresting and decided to share that. As stated in the OP. | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. Go and watch star wars Oh Star Wars, what a load of shit I'm Going to bed, I can't watch football be disrespected Playing a game of football is the best thing I do, you might think it's sad but it's like a whole new stress free world " You are no longer sexy, young man. | |||
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"I have no idea why Im into football, it results in heartache and dissapointment time and time again, but I do, can't really help it lol." This sums up how I feel about Norwich most of the time | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! Piss off you, you'll get a good hiding Yes please You fairy " Con is waiting | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. " Amen | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. " I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost... | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! Piss off you, you'll get a good hiding Yes please You fairy Con is waiting " Prick | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. This is very true - and I certainly understand that the vast majority of those who play football do it for the love... I, personally, find football deeply disinteresting and decided to share that. As stated in the OP. " I understand your point of view. I don't get a lot of things that many people enjoy. | |||
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"Couldn't agree more, OP! It's absolute muck! Piss off you, you'll get a good hiding Yes please You fairy Con is waiting Prick " Haha | |||
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"Football, X-factor, consumerism, nationalism, Eastenders etc... all help to make and keep people stupid basically. " How can people who make so much money out of such activities be so stupid | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. Amen " You might might as well say that the royal family don't represent the nation - premier leaguers are arguably the pinnacle of sporting prowess in this country and people look up to them as role models. God help us. | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what " I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P) | |||
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"Football, X-factor, consumerism, nationalism, Eastenders etc... all help to make and keep people stupid basically. How can people who make so much money out of such activities be so stupid " Or really very clever and manipulative | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P)" I have a cure for that..... a match | |||
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" I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost..." Yeh it is almost on a religious scale. I think if someone admits they are a big football fanatic then they are basically saying they are stupid and really boring to talk to. How can you have a good, interesting and engaging conversation with someone who spends most of their free time watching a ball being kicked? | |||
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"Just cos yer missing Bradley How's he doing for you? Oh, by the way, next time I go UNLOS I'll send a personal message to you so you don't forget who I am " He's fitted in rather well actually, although there's quite a bit of competition. How could I forget you | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P) I have a cure for that..... a match " A football match ? Baggsy not in goal. | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P) I have a cure for that..... a match A football match ? Baggsy not in goal. " Haha you seen what I did there then | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. Jealous? Of a bunch of preened neanderthals almost entirely incapable of appreciating the finer things in life beyond buying a house, buying yr parents a house, buying another house, buying a car, buying another car, buying a girlfriend... That is NOT living to my mind. " Haha you must be living the dream. | |||
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"Taking this slightly off topic but to hopefully make my point a bit clearer...yes its not just football. Is most of the world obsessed with watching/following other people do things....rather than doing things themselves?!...this disproportionate obsession with watching/following is the irrational behaviour that I'm bemused by in football..." The most extreme example I witnessed of this was that crash at an airshow this summer - big fireball on the motorway, 12 people killed? Anyways, the news footage showed said fireball occurring in various backgrounds while row after row of onlookers recorded it in the foreground. Is that your reaction to a disaster? Weird. | |||
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"That is NOT living to my mind. Haha you must be living the dream. " Come up and see me | |||
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"Taking this slightly off topic but to hopefully make my point a bit clearer...yes its not just football. Is most of the world obsessed with watching/following other people do things....rather than doing things themselves?!...this disproportionate obsession with watching/following is the irrational behaviour that I'm bemused by in football..." I can still chuck a mean dart, but doubt I'd get a game at the i Pro these days | |||
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"That is NOT living to my mind. Haha you must be living the dream. Come up and see me " What!!!your Steve Harley now??? | |||
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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it." Why does it have to be rational? Why do I like running? Why do I like musicals? Why I like rugby? (ok that one is the thighs, I know that lol) We all like things for different reasons and no where does it state they have to be rational ones. | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter" They have fan rankings?? | |||
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"I bloody hate football. My dream man will have no interest in it! An ex used to get so affected by the success or lack of from his team. Got right on my tits!" I absolutely hate the sport Now rugby on the other hand | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter They have fan rankings?? " Caps system with England so kinda | |||
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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it." Because they enjoy it. Surely thats reason enough? I dont, I bloody hate football. Hate the way everyone thinks they are a manager. Hate the way people say "we scored"..we??? Were you on the pitch playing? NO so its they not we!!!! I hate everything about football. But a lot of people dont so they follow it. Seems fair to me. Him | |||
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"Full on bore if you don't like football" I think its the opposite. Nothing more boring than people going on and on about it... | |||
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" I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost... Yeh it is almost on a religious scale. I think if someone admits they are a big football fanatic then they are basically saying they are stupid and really boring to talk to. How can you have a good, interesting and engaging conversation with someone who spends most of their free time watching a ball being kicked?" | |||
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"What about your views on tiddly winks should that be included in the Olympic games " absolutely yes.. also i think i heard a report on 5 that some bloke wanted bridge included as it was similar to darts and snooker.. | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit" They not we, you and I were not on the pitch, they do not represent me I have nothing to do with football I dont give two shits if they fly Englands flag. I feel no sadness if they loose and would feel no honour if they won. There is no "we" unless your on the team. | |||
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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it." obvioesly you haven't had to work in an office full of golf bores then have you op Probley the most tedious three months I have ever had listening to them prattling on about thier handicap or which new club they were going to buy " a good walk spoiled by a game " to quote Mark Twain | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit" Quoting this till after the euros We've got a strong squad | |||
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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it.obvioesly you haven't had to work in an office full of golf bores then have you op Probley the most tedious three months I have ever had listening to them prattling on about thier handicap or which new club they were going to buy " a good walk spoiled by a game " to quote Mark Twain " very true | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit Quoting this till after the euros We've got a strong squad " Oh and I also struggle with the naive optimism of football fans | |||
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"It's impossible to explain to a non football fan just how high you feel when your team wins or how low when they get beat,the love a true fan has for their team cannot be explained." Do you not play at all ? Don't get me wrong I still love going to watch the blues (birmingham city) but I love playing way more then anything. Plus were blessed to have the best league in the world so why ignore it | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit" We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team | |||
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"Going out to watch live sport has surely got to be better than sitting in front of the idiot box for a couple of hours. " | |||
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" I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost... Yeh it is almost on a religious scale. I think if someone admits they are a big football fanatic then they are basically saying they are stupid and really boring to talk to. How can you have a good, interesting and engaging conversation with someone who spends most of their free time watching a ball being kicked?" We are all different and we find different things interesting. I, the fem, an a football fanatic. I have had many interesting chats with guys about football while swinging. | |||
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"It's impossible to explain to a non football fan just how high you feel when your team wins or how low when they get beat,the love a true fan has for their team cannot be explained." | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit They not we, you and I were not on the pitch, they do not represent me I have nothing to do with football I dont give two shits if they fly Englands flag. I feel no sadness if they loose and would feel no honour if they won. There is no "we" unless your on the team. " What a pathetic, pedantic thing to get annoyed at. | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit Quoting this till after the euros We've got a strong squad Oh and I also struggle with the naive optimism of football fans" Very odd thing to say. As someone who has posted on football-based message boards and been "involved" in football since I was about 12, football fans are varied, as are people. You get negative glass half empty fans and positive glass half full fans and pragmatic fans and everything inbetween. Why would it be any different just because they choose to follow a sport? | |||
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"I mean, what rational reason is there for it...or do people just do it without thinking?! Sorry if I'm offending but I just don't understand why people bother and what RATIONAL benefit people get from it." . I have no interest in it whatsoever but am happy to accept that lots of people do.I think however it is only about 60% of men. It is very commercialised and it is surprising how much star footballers are paid .. Everyone can decide their own hobbies and interests . The sports sections of the newspapers which. I buy go straight in the bin unopened or if a tabloid unread. | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. Jealous? Of a bunch of preened neanderthals almost entirely incapable of appreciating the finer things in life beyond buying a house, buying yr parents a house, buying another house, buying a car, buying another car, buying a girlfriend... That is NOT living to my mind. " You think everyone is thick, everyone is "preended" (how dare they look after themselves - disgusting). You think they're unable to appreciate the finer things in life - these people who have children, partners etc. Embarrassingly shallow outlook, generalising everyone to be the same. Give your head a wobble. | |||
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"Overpaid drama queens the lot, dya see them when they get slightly nudged? Go down so fast and claim injuries that even the worst personally injuries solicitor would question. Quite embarrassing to say the least, get rid of the money and bring the sport back to the people I say." Back to the people? It's people that follow football,making it so popular | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I don't blame you for being jealous, I wouldn't mind earning 150k a week. And the money comes from peoples irrational disproportionate obsession with the game...." And why is that a problem on any conceivable level? | |||
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"There's that much money and corruption in it these days you may as well follow any other giant tax-cheating corporation. Come on Amazon/Google/Starbucks!" loved the comment | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter" I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? | |||
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" I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost... Yeh it is almost on a religious scale. I think if someone admits they are a big football fanatic then they are basically saying they are stupid and really boring to talk to. How can you have a good, interesting and engaging conversation with someone who spends most of their free time watching a ball being kicked?" What the fuck hahaha Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you people? You criticise people for watching a sport and in the same breath generalise very offensively. First of all, just cos you are a football fan does not mean you spend "most of your free time" watching football. I spend 90 minutes watching football once every week because I don't watch any on TV unless England are playing. Secondly, why do you think someone who watches football is unable to get involved in other topics and interests? This isn't the 80's, football fans are very diverse, in a crowd there'll be doctors, nurses, firefighters, religious people and every other job you can think of. What a stupid closed-minded view you have. I can talk about politics, animal cruelty, why the earth is being destroyed by corporate greed, I can talk about religion, relationships, swinging, anime, every subject you can think of I can probably hold some sort of discussion on - yet you'd dismiss me straight away because I like following my local football team? I feel very lucky not to be you. | |||
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" I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost... Yeh it is almost on a religious scale. I think if someone admits they are a big football fanatic then they are basically saying they are stupid and really boring to talk to. How can you have a good, interesting and engaging conversation with someone who spends most of their free time watching a ball being kicked? What the fuck hahaha Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you people? You criticise people for watching a sport and in the same breath generalise very offensively. First of all, just cos you are a football fan does not mean you spend "most of your free time" watching football. I spend 90 minutes watching football once every week because I don't watch any on TV unless England are playing. Secondly, why do you think someone who watches football is unable to get involved in other topics and interests? This isn't the 80's, football fans are very diverse, in a crowd there'll be doctors, nurses, firefighters, religious people and every other job you can think of. What a stupid closed-minded view you have. I can talk about politics, animal cruelty, why the earth is being destroyed by corporate greed, I can talk about religion, relationships, swinging, anime, every subject you can think of I can probably hold some sort of discussion on - yet you'd dismiss me straight away because I like following my local football team? I feel very lucky not to be you." well said | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team " But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right! | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? " Well I can't speak for everyone else but roughly 50% of my friends I have were initially made from our mutual love of football. Why does everything have to be rational? Is it rational to have bareback sex? Is it rational to sit in the middle of a bunch of blokes who wank on your face? Is it rational to post face pics to public on here when you're a parent or potential parent? Is it rational to get completely smashed when you go out? No, but people do and escape criticism (well maybe not on the bareback thing but loads of people do it on nights out in every country in the world every weekend). Why should the pretty harmless sport of football be controversial in this respect? | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right!" In a shocking twist, football fans don't all share one opinion and instead can have different opinions. | |||
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"I don't like football. I actively avoid it. But I don't disrespect people for their sport choices, any more than I expect them to disrespect mine. Its just not that important! Now- who fancies a fuck??" Ok then | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. I get paid nothing to play football. I actually pay to play. I also clear dogs shit from the pitch before the game. Overpaid morons are a tiny percentage of the millions who take part in this sport and many people watch the sport at a lower level where the players get paid a lot less. The premier league is not the be all and end all of football. I can understand and appreciate people actively playing but the sheer scale of peoples obsession with watching and following the sport seems totally out of proportion...it seems on the scale of a religion or a belief system almost..." If only religion was more like football. It'd be a lot more peaceful and logical - tends to be a fair few more mass murders when it comes to religion | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right! In a shocking twist, football fans don't all share one opinion and instead can have different opinions. " Yes i know. Which takes me back to my original point that some og them hold this delusional belief that England are any good. | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right!" Don't worry about it its all opinions isn't it? | |||
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" Back to the people? It's people that follow football,making it so popular " I think you'll find the TV rights and sponsorship deals that make it so popular, how many fans these days complain about ticket prices? | |||
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"It's because humans are basically tribal by nature. And if we didn't follow football we'd have to find something else to talk about in the Pub. " Like fab maybe. | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right! In a shocking twist, football fans don't all share one opinion and instead can have different opinions. Yes i know. Which takes me back to my original point that some og them hold this delusional belief that England are any good. " I really don't think there's that many England fans who believe we're good any more. I mean, compared to the entirety of international teams then yeah we're in the top tier but we don't perform at tournaments. Not sure why this is. The ridiculous media hype maybe? Who knows, maybe the players as individuals just aren't good enough. Not something worth getting wound up over | |||
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"Hooray! My kinda football-related thread... something I can finally relate to... rather than 22 over-paid morons running about after a pig's bladder substitute. Football sucks ass. " What's the difference from that than the drivel you write on the forum most days?. | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? " Rational? Sadly that's a subjective term and means little. Some people enjoy the passion and intrigue that is associated in football. I don't lambast people for enjoying classical music or for reading a book so why do so because a person enjoys sport? This world in general and fab by reflection would be much nicer if we all lived and let live. There is an old quote with relevance to football "never in the sphere of human reference does any thing mean so little but matter so much." | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? Well I can't speak for everyone else but roughly 50% of my friends I have were initially made from our mutual love of football. Why does everything have to be rational? Is it rational to have bareback sex? Is it rational to sit in the middle of a bunch of blokes who wank on your face? Is it rational to post face pics to public on here when you're a parent or potential parent? Is it rational to get completely smashed when you go out? No, but people do and escape criticism (well maybe not on the bareback thing but loads of people do it on nights out in every country in the world every weekend). Why should the pretty harmless sport of football be controversial in this respect?" The OP was asking for rational reasons. Just because you're a super fan doesn't mean you have to jump down the throat of everyone who thinks following football is pointless. I'm finding your posts unnecessarily aggressive. | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit We are not mate - we are awful but we still support the team But someone else has just said that we have a strong squad for the euro's? You can;t both be right! In a shocking twist, football fans don't all share one opinion and instead can have different opinions. Yes i know. Which takes me back to my original point that some og them hold this delusional belief that England are any good. I really don't think there's that many England fans who believe we're good any more. I mean, compared to the entirety of international teams then yeah we're in the top tier but we don't perform at tournaments. Not sure why this is. The ridiculous media hype maybe? Who knows, maybe the players as individuals just aren't good enough. Not something worth getting wound up over" I believe we will do well this year Not saying were going to win it but we'll do well. We've won every qualifier and have so much youthful talent. I just hope vardy and kane make the starting line up rather then Rooney | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? Well I can't speak for everyone else but roughly 50% of my friends I have were initially made from our mutual love of football. Why does everything have to be rational? Is it rational to have bareback sex? Is it rational to sit in the middle of a bunch of blokes who wank on your face? Is it rational to post face pics to public on here when you're a parent or potential parent? Is it rational to get completely smashed when you go out? No, but people do and escape criticism (well maybe not on the bareback thing but loads of people do it on nights out in every country in the world every weekend). Why should the pretty harmless sport of football be controversial in this respect? The OP was asking for rational reasons. Just because you're a super fan doesn't mean you have to jump down the throat of everyone who thinks following football is pointless. I'm finding your posts unnecessarily aggressive. " I know he was. He probably won't find them, hence my post. I'm not a super fan, I've sacked off most away games this season cos we're shite and I can't be arsed spending money on watching us. Never claimed to be one. As for finding my posts unnecessarily aggressive... I just don't care, sorry, I can't pretend to care that you find me aggressive because I'm not. | |||
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"Hmmmm From a season ticket holder and top 350 England fan in the country I can comment on this thread For me it's not just going 3/4 miles to my club it is the 400 mile round trip i do every other weekend. It's watching my team on tv. It wearing my team colours,!its going abroad with England and meetin friends from all parts of the country having a beer and sing song and banter I don't think this has answered the OP at all. He asked for a rational reason. Travelling 400 miles to watch some blokes kick a pigs bladder around isn't rational! Seeing friends, sure. But would you be friends with these people if you didn't have football in common? Really? Well I can't speak for everyone else but roughly 50% of my friends I have were initially made from our mutual love of football. Why does everything have to be rational? Is it rational to have bareback sex? Is it rational to sit in the middle of a bunch of blokes who wank on your face? Is it rational to post face pics to public on here when you're a parent or potential parent? Is it rational to get completely smashed when you go out? No, but people do and escape criticism (well maybe not on the bareback thing but loads of people do it on nights out in every country in the world every weekend). Why should the pretty harmless sport of football be controversial in this respect? The OP was asking for rational reasons. Just because you're a super fan doesn't mean you have to jump down the throat of everyone who thinks following football is pointless. I'm finding your posts unnecessarily aggressive. I know he was. He probably won't find them, hence my post. I'm not a super fan, I've sacked off most away games this season cos we're shite and I can't be arsed spending money on watching us. Never claimed to be one. As for finding my posts unnecessarily aggressive... I just don't care, sorry, I can't pretend to care that you find me aggressive because I'm not." Your way with words speaks for itself. | |||
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"Player power has ruined football for me, these days. You wouldn't have had someone like Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson putting up with the shenanigans that the modern day footballer gets up to. The first sign of a player pulling rank back in the day and he would have been on his way. The game has suffered as a result. " Blame Jimmy Hill for that | |||
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" Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you people? You criticise people for watching a sport and in the same breath generalise very offensively. First of all, just cos you are a football fan does not mean you spend "most of your free time" watching football. I spend 90 minutes watching football once every week because I don't watch any on TV unless England are playing. Secondly, why do you think someone who watches football is unable to get involved in other topics and interests? This isn't the 80's, football fans are very diverse, in a crowd there'll be doctors, nurses, firefighters, religious people and every other job you can think of. What a stupid closed-minded view you have. I can talk about politics, animal cruelty, why the earth is being destroyed by corporate greed, I can talk about religion, relationships, swinging, anime, every subject you can think of I can probably hold some sort of discussion on - yet you'd dismiss me straight away because I like following my local football team? I feel very lucky not to be you." What do you mean - footy people are varied now cos it's not the 80s? You do know footy existed before sky turned it into an expensive soap opera for kids. And believe it or not, back in the 80s your footy world was actually quite varied. More skill then as well, now English football is just about speed. The best have always gone to Spain or Italy | |||
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"The thing that I hate most about foorball is the delusional belief that our national team are any good. And that people are genuinely surprised and upset when we once again prove that we are shit They not we, you and I were not on the pitch, they do not represent me I have nothing to do with football I dont give two shits if they fly Englands flag. I feel no sadness if they loose and would feel no honour if they won. There is no "we" unless your on the team. What a pathetic, pedantic thing to get annoyed at. " Thats your opinion its just one of the many things that makes football grate on my nerves. | |||
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"I hate football with a passion and coming from a bloke living not far from Newcastle that might sound a bit odd because 'all Geordies love football don't they?' No they don't despite popular belief. When folks ask me what team I support and I reply that I don't know the first damned thing about football, other than the fact that the players a grossly overpaid prima donnas, they look at me as if I'm queer .. so be it then, I must be a bit odd. But I also accept that lot's of people like football and if that's their bag then I'm fine with that. I dare say a lot of people would laugh at me because I collect vintage telephones, miners lamps and enjoy walking around graveyards in the dead of night with almost 5 grands worth of camera kit on my person, taking photos in the moonlight :-0 Variety is the spice of life so they say and it would be a boring life if we all enjoyed the same thing." . I think that statistically only about 60 % of men have an interest in football. I also find it strange that people think it odd to have no interest in it . Variety is the spice of life | |||
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"I also find it strange that people think it odd to have no interest in it . " Yup. Some people can be very insulting to non fans. I dont slag off or insult fans. Just stay quiet when group conversations move onto football or avoid the subject. | |||
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" Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some of you people? You criticise people for watching a sport and in the same breath generalise very offensively. First of all, just cos you are a football fan does not mean you spend "most of your free time" watching football. I spend 90 minutes watching football once every week because I don't watch any on TV unless England are playing. Secondly, why do you think someone who watches football is unable to get involved in other topics and interests? This isn't the 80's, football fans are very diverse, in a crowd there'll be doctors, nurses, firefighters, religious people and every other job you can think of. What a stupid closed-minded view you have. I can talk about politics, animal cruelty, why the earth is being destroyed by corporate greed, I can talk about religion, relationships, swinging, anime, every subject you can think of I can probably hold some sort of discussion on - yet you'd dismiss me straight away because I like following my local football team? I feel very lucky not to be you. What do you mean - footy people are varied now cos it's not the 80s? You do know footy existed before sky turned it into an expensive soap opera for kids. And believe it or not, back in the 80s your footy world was actually quite varied. More skill then as well, now English football is just about speed. The best have always gone to Spain or Italy " I know that it wasn't just a bunch of thugs back then but I think there's probably a more "varied" audience nowadays due to violence almost being nonexistent in English football nowadays. Didn't mean to offend. | |||
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"Blimey is this thread still going??...how do I close it? Lol" You don't close it. It will close itself in another 30 replies or so. | |||
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"I hate football with a passion and coming from a bloke living not far from Newcastle that might sound a bit odd because 'all Geordies love football don't they?' No they don't despite popular belief. When folks ask me what team I support and I reply that I don't know the first damned thing about football, other than the fact that the players a grossly overpaid prima donnas, they look at me as if I'm queer .. so be it then, I must be a bit odd. But I also accept that lot's of people like football and if that's their bag then I'm fine with that. I dare say a lot of people would laugh at me because I collect vintage telephones, miners lamps and enjoy walking around graveyards in the dead of night with almost 5 grands worth of camera kit on my person, taking photos in the moonlight :-0 Variety is the spice of life so they say and it would be a boring life if we all enjoyed the same thing." Well Said.....! I used to be a Licensee and ran a pub at one time in my career. One promotional idea I put in, was to have a no Football pub! My area manager said it would never work, but the financial results proved otherwise; I'd more business from people who said it made a change to find a place without Footie blaring out from the TV. I then moved on to another area and the next Licensee, put Football on from Noon to night - his takings crashed within a month! I've been in pubs where after England lost their game, I saw grown men cry! Oh, FFS, get a life! Plus, when asked what team I support, I still get the eejits who, on hearing I don't follow the game and don't know one fact from another about it, come out with the immortal line, "you must be a poof if you don't like football!" Decent fans accept that not everyone is utterly enthralled in the game, but there are the minority elements of society who just cannot see how wrapped up in Football they have become, to the point they cannot see sense. Maybe the commercialism has taken over that the actual game has lost its more distant appeal. I've said it before elsewhere, but maybe if players weren't paid so much, it might be more appealing to far more people. What if the players had to earn their money - EG, instead of having such high ranking salaries and advertising fees to cushion their lives, give them a basic salary and the rest goes into a holding account till the end of the season. That means they have to earn it, no bookings, good conduct, and score goals. Succeed and you earn it; fail and it all goes to Charity. That would sort out the workers, the true players who'd play to earn their money. | |||
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"And yes I'm very aware of the Sky generation etc it was more to do with people not wanting to go due to the violence aspect etc. back then. I don't subscribe to Sky and my team play (badly) in League 1 so we're on once a season if we're lucky. " Yeh unfortunately there was a rough edge to a lot of big games. I've seen some crazy things, not least the first time I went to OT (not that they're my team)- and the turnstiles were the the strangest turnstiles I've ever seen. Metal bars sticking out toward you, at various heights. Quite threatening in a quiet way, though probably deigned to stop guys storming through! Also seen opposition fans throw bricks at buses just after a game. Not in Manchester, somewhere else. But few things in life as enjoyable as playing footy, watching it has changed though. Good luck for your team though, got to admire those who support their team when the whole media thing is focused on top euro teams and not much about anyone else. Hopefully you can watch them for a decent price as well ! | |||
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"That is NOT living to my mind. Haha you must be living the dream. Come up and see me What!!!your Steve Harley now??? " *sighs* Mae West, duh | |||
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"That is NOT living to my mind. Haha you must be living the dream. Come up and see me What!!!your Steve Harley now??? *sighs* Mae West, duh" It's just that, You made me smile. | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P) I have a cure for that..... a match " What time is kick off... | |||
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"Can't stand the game but hey that's just me. if it doesn't take petrol or wear a short skirt I'm not interested yep I no shallow or what I'll wear a short skirt for you and douse myself in petrol if you like. . . (Mr P) I have a cure for that..... a match What time is kick off... " I refer the Honourable Fabster to my previous statement: "Football sucks" | |||
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"That is NOT living to my mind. Haha you must be living the dream. Come up and see me What!!!your Steve Harley now??? *sighs* Mae West, duh It's just that, You made me smile. " "I used to be Snow White... but I drifted" ;) | |||
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"I bloody hate football. My dream man will have no interest in it! An ex used to get so affected by the success or lack of from his team. Got right on my tits!" smiles in recognition xx i watch the world cup..when newcastle got rid of kevin keegan and put in kenny doug-idiot and he fucked it all up..that's when i hung up my interest..done my sunday mornings on sidelines of pitch too...my boys have no interest either so im a happy woman x | |||
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"Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble " That's nothing, try being at THE Greece game | |||
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"Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble " It would only matter if it was the last ever "final". The very fact that there's another season makes it completely pointless. | |||
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"Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble It would only matter if it was the last ever "final". The very fact that there's another season makes it completely pointless. " Why do people get so excited at a royal wedding or birth?. It's not going to be the last royal birth or wedding, is it? | |||
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"Not read all the thread but why does it have to be rational for someone to want to do something? Footy is fun, live games are exciting " BOOOORING! | |||
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"Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble It would only matter if it was the last ever "final". The very fact that there's another season makes it completely pointless. Why do people get so excited at a royal wedding or birth?. It's not going to be the last royal birth or wedding, is it?" I have no idea. Maybe they have no lives of their own so follow someone else's so they don't realise how pointless their own is? Isn't that why football was always popular to the working classes in industrial centers? So they didn't have to think about the fact that all they were going to with their lives was work then die? | |||
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"Not read all the thread but why does it have to be rational for someone to want to do something? Footy is fun, live games are exciting " They are if you like it... I never did, so thought I'd best go to a big match to see what folk saw in the big live games, and it was just the same as the telly, it was quite a good match by all accounts yet for me it was just boring as hell....grown-up men running after a ball with a look on their faces that suggested it was actualy a really serious thing they were doing! I just don't get football...but then, millions do so there we go. It's easy for me to avoid so I do, no issue | |||
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"Not read all the thread but why does it have to be rational for someone to want to do something? Footy is fun, live games are exciting " I agree | |||
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"Not read all the thread but why does it have to be rational for someone to want to do something? Footy is fun, live games are exciting I agree " Change of name? | |||
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"Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble It would only matter if it was the last ever "final". The very fact that there's another season makes it completely pointless. Why do people get so excited at a royal wedding or birth?. It's not going to be the last royal birth or wedding, is it? I have no idea. Maybe they have no lives of their own so follow someone else's so they don't realise how pointless their own is? Isn't that why football was always popular to the working classes in industrial centers? So they didn't have to think about the fact that all they were going to with their lives was work then die?" So i take it you never get excited about a 'pointless' tv series, computer game or film?. | |||
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"Football's dull. Sorry, but there it is. " Nearly as dull as when you cut and paste links to youtube videos every day!. | |||
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"Football's dull. Sorry, but there it is. Nearly as dull as when you cut and paste links to youtube videos every day!. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVTf5EpIItQ | |||
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""Call it my religion, nothing like being one nil down with minutes to go and you come back to win two nil to lift the champions league and do a history making treble It would only matter if it was the last ever "final". The very fact that there's another season makes it completely pointless. Why do people get so excited at a royal wedding or birth?. It's not going to be the last royal birth or wedding, is it? I have no idea. Maybe they have no lives of their own so follow someone else's so they don't realise how pointless their own is? Isn't that why football was always popular to the working classes in industrial centers? So they didn't have to think about the fact that all they were going to with their lives was work then die?" So i take it you never get excited about a 'pointless' tv series, computer game or film?." No not really. I don't have to dress up with my favorite book title on my scarf, i don't have to beat the crap out of people who don't support my kids at school sports day. And if i go for a walk in the country and don't see a beautiful vista i don't let it ruin my weekend. I used to know a guy who lived and breathed Tottenham, he would get so angry if they lost he destroyed not one, but 2 televisions! It was an absolute pleasure fucking his wife Saturday afternoons.... " Well put. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc Still dull as ditch water | |||
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