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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Experienced photographer (Mid 40s) who enjoys the thrill of meeting and capturing REAL people (couples/groups/single ladies) on film. 100% genuine, 200% discrete. Having read previous posts on this subject, there seems to be a bit of a misconception that all photographers have some kind of hidden agenda and that offering to take photos is some backdoor way of getting women to have sex with them. This is absolutely not the case here - I'm not some chubby,sweaty, balding bloke with a comb-over and point-and-shoot. Pro equipment and attitude to help you create beautiful and sexy shots - no kind of renumeration is expected. Happy to put you in touch with happy people from previous meets who will vouch for my talent and discretion. Based in South East but happy to travel to meet the right people. |
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Personally I think he is simply touting for business on the Fab Forums. If you look at his profile you will see that he expresses no interest at all in swinging rather he just pushes his photography credentials. He repeatedly uses the term 'professional' which suggests that it is his principle, if not only, source of income. Even if he doesn't 'claim expenses' it seems likely that he is hoping to get future commissions from the swingers he photographs.
Also, his claim that he has no hidden agenda doesn't bear credence. There is a clear case to answer that he is nothing more than a voyeur even if he is indulging his predilection through a camera lens. Personally I believe it is a bit of both...he is indulging his fetish whilst promoting his business at the same time.
All of the above would be perfectly acceptable if he were open and honest about it. What I find so offensive about it all is the way he is treating the rest of us as idiots too stupid to see through such an obvious ruse! |
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"You have to admit, his photos are pretty good though.  "
Well actually Wishy I don't believe that professional/posed/airbrushed pics do anything to enhance the swinging experience. I am one of those who believe that the ethos of the site is 'real sex with real people'. Consequently I find the grainy Polaroid of the 'readers wife ' far more erotic. A personal opinion obviously. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Whereas I believe that a profile is a shop window and one has to sell oneself to stand out above the crowd - even more so for single fellas. A good set of photos goes a long way to assisting the end result of doing what one came here to do - meet and have sex.
Personally speaking, if we had professional photos on our profile we'd say they were taken by a member here and are purely to showcase our best features (we've all got wobbly bits we'd rather not show until we absolutely have to, haven't we?) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I had a look at the profile and I don't think the photos are that good. Way too graphic. But thats just my personnal opinion. "
Some of them sure, but I do like the close up cock/mouth, cock/boob shots. They're artfully done. |
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" Consequently I find the grainy Polaroid of the 'readers wife ' far more erotic. A personal opinion obviously. "
The grainy polaroid look is easy enough to achieve using editing software, and no need for £1000's of camera kit to get pictures that look pro if thats what you want.
Also if getting pictures down and person promises to give you all copies - make sure they use your own memory card.
SD cards with wi-fi that can upload to the internet during a shoot are only about £50 these days. So someone can claim to have wiped card after putting them on your computer, but reality they are in their photo album online too.
Airbrushing is not a good idea, but for some fetish stuff, good photos add to the anticipation.
Biggest problem is getting a photo that you yourself like, i.e. good lighting, nice angle, relaxed pose.
Best bet in my view, play with another couple, set aside a little time at the start for a few photos, and might get some reasonable stuff and enjoy yourselves once the photography is forgotten. |
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"Whereas I believe that a profile is a shop window and one has to sell oneself to stand out above the crowd - even more so for single fellas. A good set of photos goes a long way to assisting the end result of doing what one came here to do - meet and have sex.
Personally speaking, if we had professional photos on our profile we'd say they were taken by a member here and are purely to showcase our best features (we've all got wobbly bits we'd rather not show until we absolutely have to, haven't we?)"
Well I would raise two points here...
Firstly, I have no objection to people on here offering to take photo's of other members, whether they are professional or not, and for whatever reasons both parties may have. The problem I have with this posting and indeed the author's profile is that he expresses no interest in swinging only in 'professional' photography, which suggests to me that he is anticipating or at least hoping to be paid for his services at some point.
Secondly, whilst we all try to present ourselves in the best light at what point does enhancement end and disguise begin? Ultimately we are all here to meet people, in the flesh as it were, and at that point all the photographic tricks in the world are not going to do you any good. We have met a couple of people who have looked nothing like their pics in real life. And whilst we were not particularly worried about the way the did in fact look, we are not exactly Brad and Angolina ourselves, we did feel that we had been deceived and it ruined any chance of intimacy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Interesting to read everyone's comments. I must admit that I wasn't expecting quite such a cynical response to what is a genuine offer. I'm "professional" in the sense that I've been trained how to use a camera, have decent equipment and know how to use lighting. There is absolutely no dimension of touting for business - I enjoy it, the people I've done it before and I'm good at it and I'd like to meet some other people who feel the same way. That's where it ends. As for not being in the spirit of the swinging lifestyle, I have joined in on some some shoots, but it's always if the chemistry and moment seem right. I'm trying to get away from the idea that photographers are all sleazeballs or social misfits who need some kind of ruse to get their kicks. Not true |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Interesting to read everyone's comments. I must admit that I wasn't expecting quite such a cynical response to what is a genuine offer. I'm "professional" in the sense that I've been trained how to use a camera, have decent equipment and know how to use lighting. There is absolutely no dimension of touting for business - I enjoy it, the people I've done it before and I'm good at it and I'd like to meet some other people who feel the same way. That's where it ends. As for not being in the spirit of the swinging lifestyle, I have joined in on some some shoots, but it's always if the chemistry and moment seem right. I'm trying to get away from the idea that photographers are all sleazeballs or social misfits who need some kind of ruse to get their kicks. Not true"
In that case I'll get me an Instamatic, Photos's anyone  |
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Perhaps honesty is best policy...
Camera just 6MegaPixel, but good in macro mode. Access to pro lighting kit given good notice. Happy to provide a running commentary to the photo shoot, so you can keep the poses changing.
Tripod will be required to avoid shaky pictures, and will be wanking over the memory and pictures at a later date. |
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"Interesting to read everyone's comments. I must admit that I wasn't expecting quite such a cynical response to what is a genuine offer. I'm "professional" in the sense that I've been trained how to use a camera, have decent equipment and know how to use lighting. There is absolutely no dimension of touting for business - I enjoy it, the people I've done it before and I'm good at it and I'd like to meet some other people who feel the same way. That's where it ends. As for not being in the spirit of the swinging lifestyle, I have joined in on some some shoots, but it's always if the chemistry and moment seem right. I'm trying to get away from the idea that photographers are all sleazeballs or social misfits who need some kind of ruse to get their kicks. Not true"
Cynics on the forum? Never!   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Thanks - I tried replying to them but they seem to have blocked single guys. If anyone is in in contact with them and could let them know I'm interested, I'd be really grateful |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thanks - I tried replying to them but they seem to have blocked single guys. If anyone is in in contact with them and could let them know I'm interested, I'd be really grateful"
post on their thread in the swingers chat section. if they see it they will get back to you if interested. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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wouldn't having a meet "professionally" photographed kinda take the fun away from the whole experience?
I remember watching a programme about the porn industry once and the people doing the deed didn't really look like they where enjoying themselves because the photographer was directing them. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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As long as taking the photo's doesn't involve money then there isn't anything wrong with the OP.
There are lots of people who ask for photo's to be taken, and lots of people who offer.....whats the problem if it is between consenting adults. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'm sure that having someone with a big megaphone shouting directions would be pretty off-putting and not at all sexy.
I just let people get on with enjoying one another and try and capture the moment as discreetly as I can. Modern cameras and lens that work in very low light are a real advantage.
I disagree that people don't want to look the best they can on camera. I think that's where an experienced eye is useful - you know what angles are the most flattering. The pictures still need to look like the subjects otherwise what's the point? |
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Not a huge fan of graphic photos of genitals but of all the ones I have seen, yours appear to be very tastefully done... probably not quite the right word but I like some of them.
I'm a terrible model though and way too far away!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Thank you - i'm more for erotic than medical textbook when it come to pictures.
Common misconceptions - everyone can look good in pictures.Most people's experience of having their photo taken is some slightly d*unken relative on Boxing Day waving a point and shoot camera in your face. FACT - most compact cameras have wide angle lenses which make everything look bigger than it is (great for guys, not so popular with girls). FACT - compact cameras have the flash about 5cms away from the lens, which again is only a good look if you are a vampire. An ability to model isn't important - the ability to make people feel relaxed and confident is. I've had a look at your profile pix and I think you look great - I like the way you have framed your shots too. Different and creative - shame you are so far away. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thank you - i'm more for erotic than medical textbook when it come to pictures.
Common misconceptions - everyone can look good in pictures.Most people's experience of having their photo taken is some slightly d*unken relative on Boxing Day waving a point and shoot camera in your face. FACT - most compact cameras have wide angle lenses which make everything look bigger than it is (great for guys, not so popular with girls). FACT - compact cameras have the flash about 5cms away from the lens, which again is only a good look if you are a vampire. An ability to model isn't important - the ability to make people feel relaxed and confident is. I've had a look at your profile pix and I think you look great - I like the way you have framed your shots too. Different and creative - shame you are so far away."
Your pics are way too porn for me,there is such a thing of subtle and who are these people in the pictures do they know they are on fab? Just a question and not having a go at you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Appreciate your honesty - I shoot what people ask me to shoot. Some people want something porn star-y, others want something less graphic but still sexy. In answer to your question, I ALWAYS ask permission for the shots used in my profile - if people are good enough to trust me, then I will do everything I can to respect that. Most people are happier with not showing their faces which is why the pictures focus a bit too much on action down below |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Seeing that on someones profile would put me off I looked at all your pics and they are too graphic for me but I'm sure lots like pictures like that I think less is more |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I agree Red - I think there are more interesting and challenging ways to portray the act of lurve than a big old cock pounding away at a pussy, but if that's what a couple want, then that's what I will give them. Love your pix BTW - interesting and provocative |
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