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"There are filters to include (and by default, exclude) ethnicities And no, it is not illegal not to want to have sex (or want to have sex) with somebody because of their ethnicity" No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race | |||
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"There are filters to include (and by default, exclude) ethnicities And no, it is not illegal not to want to have sex (or want to have sex) with somebody because of their ethnicity No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race" Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry, I don't know the answer to that but I think it is a good idea I would like a filter like that for height; but that is not what you asked and this is your thread | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race" It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. | |||
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"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else." I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else." Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... " | |||
"I thought there was a filter on Advanced Search. They added 'ethnicity' to profiles a while ago but I don't know if people use that tick box." There is, but that is only if I am searching, and I don't want a certain ethnic group, it doesn't filter out those in the search results who don't want a certain ethnic group | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter" I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'. | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... "" I hate to correct you but "fooking" is spelt as "f**king" | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... "" Yeah call me racist but I would never fuck a hashtag, eugh lol | |||
"I thought there was a filter on Advanced Search. They added 'ethnicity' to profiles a while ago but I don't know if people use that tick box. There is, but that is only if I am searching, and I don't want a certain ethnic group, it doesn't filter out those in the search results who don't want a certain ethnic group" Good point. Doh. | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... " I hate to correct you but "fooking" is spelt as "f**king" " Depends if you're Northern or not. (Ew... Northerners...) | |||
" I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter" I guess the common response is, most dating sites offer age type filters, how is this different..? What would you say the crime may be...? Unless someone explicit said they don't meet members of a particular race because they view them as lesser in someway, even the filterer hasn't done anything immoral. I filter by how stimulated mentally I get with someone, and how hot I find them.... Alas fab don't offer a service which helps me. | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'." So a filter would eliminate the need to write it in the profile, then we can get on with the business of finding what we all want | |||
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"I thought there was a filter on Advanced Search. They added 'ethnicity' to profiles a while ago but I don't know if people use that tick box. There is, but that is only if I am searching, and I don't want a certain ethnic group, it doesn't filter out those in the search results who don't want a certain ethnic group" I understand what you mean now; like you said, as is with the age filter or a 'sex' filter where someone outside of that age range or a specified 'sex' simply cannot send a message No, there is no such filter | |||
" I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I guess the common response is, most dating sites offer age type filters, how is this different..? What would you say the crime may be...? Unless someone explicit said they don't meet members of a particular race because they view them as lesser in someway, even the filterer hasn't done anything immoral. I filter by how stimulated mentally I get with someone, and how hot I find them.... Alas fab don't offer a service which helps me. " I'm not saying there is a crime, I'm just wondering if it could be illegal to offer such a filter, I personally think it's a great idea | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. " Good point, and well put | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... " I hate to correct you but "fooking" is spelt as "f**king" Depends if you're Northern or not. (Ew... Northerners...)" Northerners, Southeners; you lot all sound the same to me | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'." But it's a great filter. | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. " I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" | |||
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"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. " I think the OP acknowledged that it was choice very early on in his original post... | |||
"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. I think the OP acknowledged that it was choice very early on in his original post... " I did try, and this is why a filter is a good idea, people not reading what is written right before their very eyes | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages"" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! " But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. Depends on what the tick box said. "I ain't fooking none of those ##.... " I hate to correct you but "fooking" is spelt as "f**king" Depends if you're Northern or not. (Ew... Northerners...)" NO FLAT CAPS. NO TRACTORS. | |||
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"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. " i loooove leopard print | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'." You think it's only race? I've seen some unpleasant wording on profiles with regard to the overweight, short, old etc. They are usually well verified: like attracting like! | |||
"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. " I've just moved house and in my bedroom there is a mass of purple leopard print wall paper, now I'm thinking do I get rid, or go full on 70s porn style and try to get hold of a wicker chair and a bed size mirror on the ceiling lol | |||
"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. I've just moved house and in my bedroom there is a mass of purple leopard print wall paper, now I'm thinking do I get rid, or go full on 70s porn style and try to get hold of a wicker chair and a bed size mirror on the ceiling lol" that id love to see lol | |||
"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'. You think it's only race? I've seen some unpleasant wording on profiles with regard to the overweight, short, old etc. They are usually well verified: like attracting like!" No I know it's not only race, and for the most part the profiles that I have been interested in have been very sensitive and diplomatic about the subject, but you will get the odd profile that has no common decency filter | |||
"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. I've just moved house and in my bedroom there is a mass of purple leopard print wall paper, now I'm thinking do I get rid, or go full on 70s porn style and try to get hold of a wicker chair and a bed size mirror on the ceiling lol that id love to see lol" You're on | |||
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"No I meant the legality of having a filter such as the one that excludes certain ages, not the legality of having sex with someone if a different race It's not illegal to have preferences.... Preferring something over another different thing isn't a hate crime. You can have an attraction to something without hating an 'alternative' something else. I know it's not illegal to have Prefrences, but I was more wondering if it was illegal for the site to offer such a filter I suspect it's not illegal for the site to offer such a filter - the filter itself is not a hate crime. However sometimes the words people write on their profile I think could be considered hate speech when it comes to race 'preferences'. You think it's only race? I've seen some unpleasant wording on profiles with regard to the overweight, short, old etc. They are usually well verified: like attracting like! No I know it's not only race, and for the most part the profiles that I have been interested in have been very sensitive and diplomatic about the subject, but you will get the odd profile that has no common decency filter" Sorry, my comment was aimed at Wasp's post. | |||
"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. I've just moved house and in my bedroom there is a mass of purple leopard print wall paper, now I'm thinking do I get rid, or go full on 70s porn style and try to get hold of a wicker chair and a bed size mirror on the ceiling lol that id love to see lol You're on " il hold you to that | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol" I wish that was the case but unfortunatly yet to find a woman with a fire that nedds putting out haha being a fireman dont actually seem to help but if there are woman who would love to get my kit dirty please get in touch! | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol" Only when connected to hydrants; otherwise, they are quite limp. | |||
"I think most of us would like filters that can eliminate a certain class of person, some serious, some spurious. I'd like one that eliminates those who diss leopard print. " I'm a Manic Street Preachers fan. I think you just won my heart. 3 | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol Only when connected to hydrants; otherwise, they are quite limp. " Well this hose gets regular maintainance so i know its good to put a raging fire hehe! | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol I wish that was the case but unfortunatly yet to find a woman with a fire that nedds putting out haha being a fireman dont actually seem to help but if there are woman who would love to get my kit dirty please get in touch! " Great, that's not leaving much hope for the rest of us is it lol | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol Only when connected to hydrants; otherwise, they are quite limp. Well this hose gets regular maintainance so i know its good to put a raging fire hehe! " you can relight my fire anytime | |||
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"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol Only when connected to hydrants; otherwise, they are quite limp. Well this hose gets regular maintainance so i know its good to put a raging fire hehe! " I hope it can put it out too, once its started it xxx | |||
"Oh-c'mon.....if anyone has the time to log on the site browsing for a potential meet they are not too busy to read profiles...... " It's more the disappointment than anything, it's like shopping for shoes and finding the pair you have been looking for, then finding that they are not available in your size, and there is no way you could squeeze yourself into that size, so you have to walk away pondering what could have been but will never be | |||
"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. I think the OP acknowledged that it was choice very early on in his original post... I did try, and this is why a filter is a good idea, people not reading what is written right before their very eyes " We did read it , thoroughly and whilst you did try your best to get around the issue you were raising, the only conclusion you derived from it was it was a racist concern, there are and always will be people whom choose, coloured , or white , fat or slim, endowed or small. That's life, that's choice . It's not all about racism nor sexism , freedom of choice, let people have them , then move on | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages" I have to agree.. Sometimes its disheartening to read a great profile only to read at the very end "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FORIGHN" i just think people could be more polite/considerate or even suttle but to spell it out in bold and capital with explination marks i find is quiet rude!.. Sometimes how things are worded can tell alot about the person writing it.. Again each to their own happy fabbing! But your a fireman, surely that supersedes race all day long, everyone knows that women are lining up to jump on a firemans hose lol Only when connected to hydrants; otherwise, they are quite limp. Well this hose gets regular maintainance so i know its good to put a raging fire hehe! I hope it can put it out too, once its started it xxx" Haha most defiantly.. Why dont you try me? hehe who knows could get very wet | |||
"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. I think the OP acknowledged that it was choice very early on in his original post... I did try, and this is why a filter is a good idea, people not reading what is written right before their very eyes We did read it , thoroughly and whilst you did try your best to get around the issue you were raising, the only conclusion you derived from it was it was a racist concern, there are and always will be people whom choose, coloured , or white , fat or slim, endowed or small. That's life, that's choice . It's not all about racism nor sexism , freedom of choice, let people have them , then move on" Well that is not what I was aiming for, quite the opposite in fact, I totally agree with you, I was simply trying to make the selection prosses simpler, so no one gets their time wasted, surely that is a good thing | |||
"For me I much prefer profiles which set out what they DO want rather than it being the other way round and a big long list of what they DON'T want. Filters to stop people even being able to contact you feel a bit like they work on that negative principle and don't quite sit right with me. I know it's the same end result but "I prefer to meet white men" is different from "NO BLACKS OR ASIANS OR FOREIGN" and a filter might mean that difference was lost if they no longer had to choose the way they expressed their preferences on their profile. That choice of expression tells you a lot about a person. I think that is a better way of expressing a preference "I like pizza", as opposed to "I do not like sausages"" But then a sausage pizza comes along and is left scratching it's head after being rejected. | |||
"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. I think the OP acknowledged that it was choice very early on in his original post... I did try, and this is why a filter is a good idea, people not reading what is written right before their very eyes We did read it , thoroughly and whilst you did try your best to get around the issue you were raising, the only conclusion you derived from it was it was a racist concern, there are and always will be people whom choose, coloured , or white , fat or slim, endowed or small. That's life, that's choice . It's not all about racism nor sexism , freedom of choice, let people have them , then move on Well that is not what I was aiming for, quite the opposite in fact, I totally agree with you, I was simply trying to make the selection prosses simpler, so no one gets their time wasted, surely that is a good thing" Indeed, unfortunately no matter how many selection options are available, there will still be groans , why this, why that, what is in place at the moment is suffice for everyone, the selections are merely the first point of interest, then you read profiles, 8f they fit your criteria, you message. They either choose to respond or not. It's quite simple really. | |||
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"Oh-c'mon.....if anyone has the time to log on the site browsing for a potential meet they are not too busy to read profiles...... It's more the disappointment than anything, it's like shopping for shoes and finding the pair you have been looking for, then finding that they are not available in your size, and there is no way you could squeeze yourself into that size, so you have to walk away pondering what could have been but will never be " I live with that scenario everyday, but I've learned to enjoy the hunt and count myself blessed when fortune favours........ OMG even I felt a bit nauseous writing that,,,, | |||
"My bugbear is long profiles full stop - regardless of the ethnic preference disclaimer right at the bottom And it's been said once before somewhere above - I've also met ladies with a 'white only' preference and I was their naughty secret, alternate perversion" And I'm sure people have met bi when say not bi, and bbw when looking for slim lol, guess there alternative perversions, see where I'm going here lol | |||
"Oh-c'mon.....if anyone has the time to log on the site browsing for a potential meet they are not too busy to read profiles...... It's more the disappointment than anything, it's like shopping for shoes and finding the pair you have been looking for, then finding that they are not available in your size, and there is no way you could squeeze yourself into that size, so you have to walk away pondering what could have been but will never be I live with that scenario everyday, but I've learned to enjoy the hunt and count myself blessed when fortune favours........ OMG even I felt a bit nauseous writing that,,,, " This | |||
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"But if you only went into shoe shops that stocked everything in your size, don't you think the shopping experience would be more pleasurable " Gawd Nooooooooo..... that would be awful.... Without challenge where is the pleasure in achievement........ | |||
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"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. " Oh look. A person who couldn't manage to read the opening post. | |||
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"Skim reading is the way forward here. Or skip to the end first to see if the preferences are there. I'm glad that most men don't have long profile text,I get muscle ache in my eye sockets when I scroll and it makes me feel sick. I skim over the long ones looking for key words like fatties or fisting. " God don't read mine then lol | |||
"Skim reading is the way forward here. Or skip to the end first to see if the preferences are there. I'm glad that most men don't have long profile text,I get muscle ache in my eye sockets when I scroll and it makes me feel sick. I skim over the long ones looking for key words like fatties or fisting. God don't read mine then lol" You know I have to now don't you | |||
"Skim reading is the way forward here. Or skip to the end first to see if the preferences are there. I'm glad that most men don't have long profile text,I get muscle ache in my eye sockets when I scroll and it makes me feel sick. I skim over the long ones looking for key words like fatties or fisting. God don't read mine then lol You know I have to now don't you " What's SSC? | |||
"Skim reading is the way forward here. Or skip to the end first to see if the preferences are there. I'm glad that most men don't have long profile text,I get muscle ache in my eye sockets when I scroll and it makes me feel sick. I skim over the long ones looking for key words like fatties or fisting. God don't read mine then lol You know I have to now don't you " Yeah, it was a cunning stunt | |||
"Skim reading is the way forward here. Or skip to the end first to see if the preferences are there. I'm glad that most men don't have long profile text,I get muscle ache in my eye sockets when I scroll and it makes me feel sick. I skim over the long ones looking for key words like fatties or fisting. God don't read mine then lol You know I have to now don't you What's SSC? " Safe, Sane, and Concentual | |||
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"Mmmm x i would happily il meet you off the next train " Dont tease x haha | |||
"Another pile of pish post. Don't want fat, don't want bi , don't want white , don't want over certain age , don't want tattoos, don't want ripped , don't want hairy , get over it, it's choice. Oh look. A person who couldn't manage to read the opening post." Oh-c'mon look another person who couldn't read the reply, duh | |||
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"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. " You didn't get it either. If there was an ethnicity blocker on filters the people not looking for black men wouldn't see his profile. When you fill out your profile you put your race,a filter would use that information to keep the races you don't want contacting you from showing or indeed from contacting you. | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. " He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. | |||
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"This is a sex site at the end of the day, so surely it would be a good idea to gave as many filters as possible. This means that users will be more likely to find someone that is compatible. Nita " absolutely.... it can also be do done in a way that doesn't denegrate other people.... for example.... which is better.... no larger people please..... or no fatties no black people.... or no n****** I think miss-tress and i are the only people who are still here, who were here for the infamous thread where someone declared "they would not only not meet black people.... they would not meet people who had met black people!" sure there is giving people choice..... but how far out do you then given people the chance to demostrate what they want.... i am all for filters.... i am also all for giving people the choice of being defined by those very filters... so when the black person filter came up.... I decided not to use it, because I don't want people to meet me based on a filter... I want people to meet me for me | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. " I feel that others have answered your question for me, but... When you sign up to fab, you are asked your race, on that I put mixed, admittedly for a filter to work that part of the profile would have to be more specific but the principal would still be the same | |||
"This is a sex site at the end of the day, so surely it would be a good idea to gave as many filters as possible. This means that users will be more likely to find someone that is compatible. Nita absolutely.... it can also be do done in a way that doesn't denegrate other people.... for example.... which is better.... no larger people please..... or no fatties no black people.... or no n****** I think miss-tress and i are the only people who are still here, who were here for the infamous thread where someone declared "they would not only not meet black people.... they would not meet people who had met black people!" sure there is giving people choice..... but how far out do you then given people the chance to demostrate what they want.... i am all for filters.... i am also all for giving people the choice of being defined by those very filters... so when the black person filter came up.... I decided not to use it, because I don't want people to meet me based on a filter... I want people to meet me for me" I remember that incident, when I was here before and had a vanilla wobble that made me want to leave the site, I'm all better now though With a filter there is no need to mention it at all because the filter handles that for you | |||
"This is a sex site at the end of the day, so surely it would be a good idea to gave as many filters as possible. This means that users will be more likely to find someone that is compatible. Nita absolutely.... it can also be do done in a way that doesn't denegrate other people.... for example.... which is better.... no larger people please..... or no fatties no black people.... or no n****** I think miss-tress and i are the only people who are still here, who were here for the infamous thread where someone declared "they would not only not meet black people.... they would not meet people who had met black people!" sure there is giving people choice..... but how far out do you then given people the chance to demostrate what they want.... i am all for filters.... i am also all for giving people the choice of being defined by those very filters... so when the black person filter came up.... I decided not to use it, because I don't want people to meet me based on a filter... I want people to meet me for me I remember that incident, when I was here before and had a vanilla wobble that made me want to leave the site, I'm all better now though With a filter there is no need to mention it at all because the filter handles that for you" I remember that too (or I remember hearing about it) Whilst I have absolutely no issue meeting people who will not meet Black people, despite the fact that I find Black people attractive (not just because they are Black or the BBC nonsense but because of many other reasons), I will draw the line with people like that That is no longer then a preference; it almost sounds hateful and I find any such hate against any ethnicity, sexuality, 'sex', age, height, etc, an undesirable personality trait | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. I feel that others have answered your question for me, but... When you sign up to fab, you are asked your race, on that I put mixed, admittedly for a filter to work that part of the profile would have to be more specific but the principal would still be the same" There is no mixed race on your profile, so how could anyone identify you other than a pair of eyes. | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it." Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. | |||
" Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. " Original post: IM NOT OFFENDED BY PEOPLES PERSONAL CHOICES OR PREFRENCES!!! Hat I'm asking is would you find it offensive or in fact is it legal to have a filter that excludes people of a certain race form contacting profiles, some profiles are really long and detailed and when you get to the bottom and you realise that in the interests of respecting people's personal preference, that you can't contact that person anyway. Etc etc Hope that clears up any misunderstanding you've had comprehending the original post, fundamental or otherwise. | |||
"Mmmm x i would happily il meet you off the next train Dont tease x haha " whos teasing x | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. " Umm...kinda looks like you have. | |||
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" Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Original post: IM NOT OFFENDED BY PEOPLES PERSONAL CHOICES OR PREFRENCES!!! Hat I'm asking is would you find it offensive or in fact is it legal to have a filter that excludes people of a certain race form contacting profiles, some profiles are really long and detailed and when you get to the bottom and you realise that in the interests of respecting people's personal preference, that you can't contact that person anyway. Etc etc Hope that clears up any misunderstanding you've had comprehending the original post, fundamental or otherwise." Unfortunately not. | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have." Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on" Thereby making his argument valid. If there was am option to block mixed race men he wouldn't show up in a search and nobody would have any misconceptions regarding his race because he hasn't stated it on his profile. | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on Thereby making his argument valid. If there was am option to block mixed race men he wouldn't show up in a search and nobody would have any misconceptions regarding his race because he hasn't stated it on his profile. " It is his search , not others contacting him. You can search for any group, colour etc, | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on Thereby making his argument valid. If there was am option to block mixed race men he wouldn't show up in a search and nobody would have any misconceptions regarding his race because he hasn't stated it on his profile. It is his search , not others contacting him. You can search for any group, colour etc, " If the site had a way of blocking by race he couldn't see their profiles in a search. That's what he's suggesting. A whole race/colour block. You can search for a race,you can't block a race. It would be better if it said it on profiles like it does when you block single men,or not allow you to even see a profile,which is what a block does. | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on" The OP has recorded his ethnicity in his profile details; it is a drop-down field which I have used too. However, this field does not appear on the profile listing What he is suggesting is that just like with the age filter, where one can exclude anyone who is below or above a certain age, a filter for ethnicity be included too He does not wish to exclude anyone. All he is asking for is that those who wish to exclude him, can set their ethnicity filter so that he cannot write to them, or better still, not even view their profiles I find his approach very mature. He is in no way blaming anyone for their preferences; far from it | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on The OP has recorded his ethnicity in his profile details; it is a drop-down field which I have used too. However, this field does not appear on the profile listing What he is suggesting is that just like with the age filter, where one can exclude anyone who is below or above a certain age, a filter for ethnicity be included too He does not wish to exclude anyone. All he is asking for is that those who wish to exclude him, can set their ethnicity filter so that he cannot write to them, or better still, not even view their profiles I find his approach very mature. He is in no way blaming anyone for their preferences; far from it" Whilst I 100 percent agree with that, and have no way disagreed with the OP 8n that manner, there are people on site who tho may not wish to play with certain others, perhaps are more than happy with the social side to the site, | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on The OP has recorded his ethnicity in his profile details; it is a drop-down field which I have used too. However, this field does not appear on the profile listing What he is suggesting is that just like with the age filter, where one can exclude anyone who is below or above a certain age, a filter for ethnicity be included too He does not wish to exclude anyone. All he is asking for is that those who wish to exclude him, can set their ethnicity filter so that he cannot write to them, or better still, not even view their profiles I find his approach very mature. He is in no way blaming anyone for their preferences; far from it Whilst I 100 percent agree with that, and have no way disagreed with the OP 8n that manner, there are people on site who tho may not wish to play with certain others, perhaps are more than happy with the social side to the site, " Those ones wouldn't use the filter. It won't happen anyway so it's a moot point | |||
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"I'm not one to skirt round certain topics and i tend to say what i think and stuff anybody that thinks i should hold back and bite my tongue. But can anybody tell me why it's invariably always the ethnic minorities that always bring up skin colour ect no matter what the topic?" I could show you a million and one profiles of people looking for "BBC" that would counter your point..... in fact... i could probably point our a search of white guys asking what the fascination with BBC is as they are left out..... but just generally people will find a way to complain about the thing that excludes them... marrieds... people who are young..... people who are old.... people who are large.... people who are skinny.... ect ect ect | |||
"To the OP, I find it strange that you are querying certain options or choices of others or rather that after reading a profile in the latter stages you find they are choosing not to meet people of certain race or ethnicity , I've have perused you profile, every line in it, you have no description of race nor ethnicity, merely a photo of your eyes which has no significance . If others were perusing your profile , how could they distinguish if you were initially suitable to them, seems rather double sided. He's not querying the choices of others. He's suggesting additions to the search engine to enable people to find each other easier when they have racial preferences. If you have read his original post, you have fundamentally misunderstood it. Unfortunately I did not fundamentally misunderstand his post. As he duely said in a response by not meaning to come across that way, so please fully read the posts and the responses prior to commenting. Umm...kinda looks like you have. Ummmm kinda not, the OP has posted regarding his frustrations of the selection process, I.e leaving until the bottom of a profile that they choose not to meet certain criteria , yet the OP fails to disclose his full description ,which is ironic if he chooses to express concerns about others, I'm not disagreeing with the OP, there are limited options in the profile descriptions, the same for everyone, if you or they don't meet that criteria, move on The OP has recorded his ethnicity in his profile details; it is a drop-down field which I have used too. However, this field does not appear on the profile listing What he is suggesting is that just like with the age filter, where one can exclude anyone who is below or above a certain age, a filter for ethnicity be included too He does not wish to exclude anyone. All he is asking for is that those who wish to exclude him, can set their ethnicity filter so that he cannot write to them, or better still, not even view their profiles I find his approach very mature. He is in no way blaming anyone for their preferences; far from it Whilst I 100 percent agree with that, and have no way disagreed with the OP 8n that manner, there are people on site who tho may not wish to play with certain others, perhaps are more than happy with the social side to the site, " And the filter which the OP is suggesting will not in any way interfere with the social side of this site for that is on the forums What he is asking for is that those who do not wish to meet people of his ethnicity should be able to do so by excluding him from even viewing their profile I really cannot see how much more understanding the OP can be about other people's preferences | |||
"I'm not one to skirt round certain topics and i tend to say what i think and stuff anybody that thinks i should hold back and bite my tongue. But can anybody tell me why it's invariably always the ethnic minorities that always bring up skin colour ect no matter what the topic?" Firstly, this topic is about process and not the rights or wrongs of the issues. Secondly beating around the bush can in most circles be seen as politeness when dealing with sensitive issues. It normally shows discernment and an understanding of the issue. Thirdly if certain people read on the history of the European Empires, diaspora, American Slavery and the black experience rather than getting their jingoism from the Sun or the Daily Mail or Telegraph, then your question would have been redundant. I am off to watch 12 years a slave as it is great story of fantasy, but which course did not happen. | |||