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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
London |
15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming |
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The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing. |
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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?"
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what! |
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over a year ago
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You definitely did the right thing.
If he'd been running along the pavement alone, I'd have just kept an eye on him, making sure he came to no harm, but him running down the middle of a road was an tragedy waiting to happen.
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming "
yes I agree with you that's the way its going but I'm not going to allow it to affect how I react to kids and people in general I chat to everyone and I don't care kids need to be able to interact with adults and the very small minority shouldn't affect the majority  |
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!"
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking.. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming "
You done exactly the right thing, I wouldn't have thought twice about doing the same. I'm just shocked that you were the only one getting the child to safety! |
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
You done exactly the right thing, I wouldn't have thought twice about doing the same. I'm just shocked that you were the only one getting the child to safety!"
imagine others were thinking about it but its speed of action in these situations that saves lives ,I saved a 6 year old from drowning in a Florida pool a few years back |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing."
That's three categories. |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
3/ those who don't give a flipping fuck
You did the right thing."
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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking.."
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing."
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her* "
Unfortunately, it is a sad reflection. We saw a young child on a crowded beach, running ahead of us, we just kept an eye on her, it wasn't until she realized she had lost her parents that she screamed and only then did they realise she had gone |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her* "
Nothing should prevent anyone from stepping in to prevent a tragedy - where would society be without our heroes? Not everybody feels capable, for one reason or another, but thank god for those that do xx |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her*
Nothing should prevent anyone from stepping in to prevent a tragedy - where would society be without our heroes? Not everybody feels capable, for one reason or another, but thank god for those that do xx"
Well said! I would like to think if any of my grandchildren were in danger, someone would step in and help them. |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her*
Nothing should prevent anyone from stepping in to prevent a tragedy - where would society be without our heroes? Not everybody feels capable, for one reason or another, but thank god for those that do xx
Well said! I would like to think if any of my grandchildren were in danger, someone would step in and help them."
This. Around the ages of two and three, toddlers suddenly develop an insatiable wanderlust. They can be stood right by you one minute, then zoom off before you even realised.
My lad was awful for this, it's uncanny how fast they can run!
So I'm happy there are still people out there, aware and alert. |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories. "
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming "
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid |
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid "
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything? |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her* "
I think you're right. 
The worry of some crazed parent running up and screaming at you for trying to abduct their kid. 
Well done OP.  |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
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You can lead a woman to the chicken but you can't make her eat the humble pie.
I'm still right. |
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid "
If a child is in clear danger, I'd take the risk of such an accusation |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
You can lead a woman to the chicken but you can't make her eat the humble pie.
I'm still right. "
Of course you are and I bow to your superiour knowledge |
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything? "
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
You can lead a woman to the chicken but you can't make her eat the humble pie.
I'm still right.
Of course you are and I bow to your superiour knowledge "
Thanks Captain Condescension xx I needed the boost. xx |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
I don't think that's the case where children are concerned. People are too afraid to intervene for fear of repercussions and rediculous accusations.
As a mother in a playspace, I've been wary of stepping in when necessary (but did in the end) whilst people (also parents) stood by and watched. You could see they wanted to help but just didn't dare.
It is a very sad reflection on society that adults who are supposed to be caregivers and look out for children, are too afraid when something happens.
*Her*
Nothing should prevent anyone from stepping in to prevent a tragedy - where would society be without our heroes? Not everybody feels capable, for one reason or another, but thank god for those that do xx
Well said! I would like to think if any of my grandchildren were in danger, someone would step in and help them.
This. Around the ages of two and three, toddlers suddenly develop an insatiable wanderlust. They can be stood right by you one minute, then zoom off before you even realised.
My lad was awful for this, it's uncanny how fast they can run!
So I'm happy there are still people out there, aware and alert."
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
You can lead a woman to the chicken but you can't make her eat the humble pie.
I'm still right. "
your always right in your mind !! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid "
So a child is running down the middle of the road and you are going to wait for the police to arrive? Would you not get that child out of the immediate danger he obviously was in? I couldn't live with myself if I chose to ignore that situation, for fear of being accused of kidnapping him, and he got run over. Just me! |
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
That's three categories.
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs... I qualified it, Granny...
"...the vast majority of people..."
And then there's the minority who act.
You can lead a woman to the chicken but you can't make her eat the humble pie.
I'm still right.
Of course you are and I bow to your superiour knowledge
Thanks Captain Condescension xx I needed the boost. xx"
*doffs bowler*
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother "
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell... |
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
So a child is running down the middle of the road and you are going to wait for the police to arrive? Would you not get that child out of the immediate danger he obviously was in? I couldn't live with myself if I chose to ignore that situation, for fear of being accused of kidnapping him, and he got run over. Just me!"
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
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And that's not the child's fault. Also, in this situation, it sounds like there were witnesses standing by watching this guy helping the little boy, so can hardly accuse him of kidnapping him. |
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell..."
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger . "
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
are you on drugs ? "
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents ."
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely? |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?"
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
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This.
I admire the OP's actions but would I do it? - hellll no (for the reasons above). Yes that is a reflection of our society and not every other country has this problem.
But start a thread on children and see how rational people are about them. |
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over a year ago
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Fuck opinion here bemuses me I give up ,you save the child's life fuck anyone else's opinion ,once child's dead what then " their were loads of perverts around why didn't you save my child ?" !!!! |
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"Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
Examples...? "
The guy from glastonbury is asking for examples of bat shit crazy people - where to start? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
This.
I admire the OP's actions but would I do it? - hellll no (for the reasons above). Yes that is a reflection of our society and not every other country has this problem.
But start a thread on children and see how rational people are about them. "
People have to do what they are comfortable with and I respect that, however I would still put the child first, rather than worrying about myself getting accused of kidnap. That's the way I am. I have young grandchildren and whilst I don't envisage them running down the middle of a road, if they did, I would be forever grateful if someone took them out of danger. |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
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over a year ago
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"Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
Examples...?
The guy from glastonbury is asking for examples of bat shit crazy people - where to start? "
People who put the milk in first would be a good starting point. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Fuck opinion here bemuses me I give up ,you save the child's life fuck anyone else's opinion ,once child's dead what then " their were loads of perverts around why didn't you save my child ?" !!!!"
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over a year ago
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
This.
I admire the OP's actions but would I do it? - hellll no (for the reasons above). Yes that is a reflection of our society and not every other country has this problem.
But start a thread on children and see how rational people are about them.
People have to do what they are comfortable with and I respect that, however I would still put the child first, rather than worrying about myself getting accused of kidnap. That's the way I am. I have young grandchildren and whilst I don't envisage them running down the middle of a road, if they did, I would be forever grateful if someone took them out of danger."
It ain't kidnap I'd be worried about being accused of!
I think a woman could pull it off no problem, but a man with a child might not get the benefit of the doubt... its not nice and I wouldn't choose it that way, but that's how I see it. |
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"Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
Examples...?
The guy from glastonbury is asking for examples of bat shit crazy people - where to start?
People who put the milk in first would be a good starting point. "
According to our Christmas experience of board games, some people believe that seeing their opponent roll first can influence the number they subsequently roll #batshitcrazy |
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
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how do you know these things? Why a bad mother? Noone has said who was in charge of the child, mother, father, grandparents.
Have you never known anyone whose child has slipped them? They can be like bloody Houdini . |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
how do you know these things? Why a bad mother? Noone has said who was in charge of the child, mother, father, grandparents.
Have you never known anyone whose child has slipped them? They can be like bloody Houdini . "
Absolutely! I would think the majority of people who's child was being helped, would be very grateful, I certainly would. |
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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
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That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!"
Well said |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!"
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
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I've learned my lesson on these things, I was in Glasgow about 2years ago, a little girl about 7 fell and was bleeding out her nose and mouth, I tried to do the right thing and help her while trying to see if I could see her parents, next thing I knew I was pulled away from her, slapped in the face and called a peadophile by the mother.
So from now on if I see a child getting hurt I walk right past and don't get involved |
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"I've learned my lesson on these things, I was in Glasgow about 2years ago, a little girl about 7 fell and was bleeding out her nose and mouth, I tried to do the right thing and help her while trying to see if I could see her parents, next thing I knew I was pulled away from her, slapped in the face and called a peadophile by the mother.
So from now on if I see a child getting hurt I walk right past and don't get involved"
did that really happen if so I'm assuming you involved the police |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
why would you assume everyone has a phone that takes videos."
It's advice you can take it or leave it . I don't care what you do or anyone else
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I was just giving my opinion on what I would do to safeguard myself in that event
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
why would you assume everyone has a phone that takes videos.
It's advice you can take it or leave it . I don't care what you do or anyone else
Does
I was just giving my opinion on what I would do to safeguard myself in that event
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and I asked you a question further up the thread that you didn't answer
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By *r ManxMan
over a year ago
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on the other end of the scale i was in London for Remembrance Sunday.
On the Monday afternoon i left my hotel to catch the Tube to the airport and spotted a smartly dressed elderly gentleman, stood in the middle of a wide bust pavement looking around. I stopped to one side and just watched him for a few minuets. He looked like he was on his own and lost in a sea of humanity that had absolutely no interest in him.
I asked him if he was OK and he replied that he had lost X hotel , no problem I guided him back to his hotel and handed him over to the Doorman.
No fuss, no drama but i am amazed that no one else was interested in him or anything else going on around them .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
why would you assume everyone has a phone that takes videos.
It's advice you can take it or leave it . I don't care what you do or anyone else
Does
I was just giving my opinion on what I would do to safeguard myself in that event
and I asked you a question further up the thread that you didn't answer
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I beleive I did answer it
But to clarify "I don't care what you do or anyone else
Does "
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Most people are well meaning but too slow and unassertive to realise there's a problem and then be the person that solves the problem.
Theought most of thier lives people live with other people there to take charge and fix things.
Thier parents, their teacher, thier manager etc few develop the skills to actually take charge
But as a male anything with children theae days does give you a moments pause |
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid "
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming
Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
Is the sarcasm?"
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
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This evening on the news ar six "man arested for filming three year old on his phone, police later found links to disturbing sex sites on mans phone,get the full story after this word from our sponsor's!!" |
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But as a male anything with children theae days does give you a moments pause"
Anything that requires logical thinking from the general public gives me a moments pause.
Some of us still remember Dr Cloete who had her property vandalised by people that couldn't tell the difference between a pediatrician and a pedophile. |
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"Most people are well meaning but too slow and unassertive to realise there's a problem and then be the person that solves the problem.
Theought most of thier lives people live with other people there to take charge and fix things.
Thier parents, their teacher, thier manager etc few develop the skills to actually take charge
But as a male anything with children theae days does give you a moments pause"
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
This evening on the news ar six "man arested for filming three year old on his phone, police later found links to disturbing sex sites on mans phone,get the full story after this word from our sponsor's!!""
Post the link as its not quite 6 pm yet . |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
why would you assume everyone has a phone that takes videos.
It's advice you can take it or leave it . I don't care what you do or anyone else
Does
I was just giving my opinion on what I would do to safeguard myself in that event
and I asked you a question further up the thread that you didn't answer
I beleive I did answer it
But to clarify "I don't care what you do or anyone else
Does "
Hope that helps "
you've obviously missed the other question I asked
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
This evening on the news ar six "man arested for filming three year old on his phone, police later found links to disturbing sex sites on mans phone,get the full story after this word from our sponsor's!!"
Post the link as its not quite 6 pm yet . "
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
This evening on the news ar six "man arested for filming three year old on his phone, police later found links to disturbing sex sites on mans phone,get the full story after this word from our sponsor's!!""
are you saying that if a toddler was running down the middle of the road about to get run over someome would film it for a sex site.
Where talking about what you would do in an emergency not about premeditation
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
This evening on the news ar six "man arested for filming three year old on his phone, police later found links to disturbing sex sites on mans phone,get the full story after this word from our sponsor's!!"are you saying that if a toddler was running down the middle of the road about to get run over someome would film it for a sex site.
Where talking about what you would do in an emergency not about premeditation
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No. Not at all i was pointing out the potential absurd consequences of pulling out your phone and filming yourself rescuing the child running down the road to prove youre not a child abducting pedophile as was suggested.
As everyone reports younfor filming a child, they check the phone and find fabs (fox news disturbing sex site).
I swear brass eye should be mandatory _iewing for people before they're alowed on the Internet.
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You know what after reading this thread, whether it's a child, adult, burning house I'm sure if there was an emergency my natural instincts would take over for some that's to help for some to walk away but it would be instinct
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By *ina75Woman
over a year ago
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
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What a load of bollocks you are stating, I have child safeguarding training for professional purposes.
My only advice to the OP, is that as there were others around you ask one of them to stay with you so you are never alone with a child. Otherwise you did exactly the right thing. this from a professional with safeguarding responsibility. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
What a load of bollocks you are stating, I have child safeguarding training for professional purposes.
My only advice to the OP, is that as there were others around you ask one of them to stay with you so you are never alone with a child. Otherwise you did exactly the right thing. this from a professional with safeguarding responsibility. "
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Oh when it comes to the police, if you report something where a child is in iminant danger, every time you've moaned about them being slow, about how shit they were when your car gor vandalised or stolen etc evaporates.
They will be there so fast and in so much force that you realise just why they were slow or a shit undermanned when you were upset about your car.
When I reported two kids being abducted while i kept the two men with them talking in under 5 miniutes had 4 police cars (one from each road of the cross roads) turn up including the armed reaponse van.
Think there wnded up ebing about 10 officers there in total by the ten miniute mark
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"Oh when it comes to the police, if you report something where a child is in iminant danger, every time you've moaned about them being slow, about how shit they were when your car gor vandalised or stolen etc evaporates.
They will be there so fast and in so much force that you realise just why they were slow or a shit undermanned when you were upset about your car.
When I reported two kids being abducted while i kept the two men with them talking in under 5 miniutes had 4 police cars (one from each road of the cross roads) turn up including the armed reaponse van.
Think there wnded up ebing about 10 officers there in total by the ten miniute mark
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That's really good, however where we live, we are at least 10 minutes from the nearest town and we don't have local bobbies anymore, so if this happened in my area, I would have to take action, rather than wait 10 minutes for a police car, it may be too late by then. Agree the police are not all bad |
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"Oh when it comes to the police, if you report something where a child is in iminant danger, every time you've moaned about them being slow, about how shit they were when your car gor vandalised or stolen etc evaporates.
They will be there so fast and in so much force that you realise just why they were slow or a shit undermanned when you were upset about your car.
When I reported two kids being abducted while i kept the two men with them talking in under 5 miniutes had 4 police cars (one from each road of the cross roads) turn up including the armed reaponse van.
Think there wnded up ebing about 10 officers there in total by the ten miniute mark
That's really good, however where we live, we are at least 10 minutes from the nearest town and we don't have local bobbies anymore, so if this happened in my area, I would have to take action, rather than wait 10 minutes for a police car, it may be too late by then. Agree the police are not all bad "
Ten miniutes at what speed?
There will be cars in your area and when something like that comes up all of them will be heading there in the teipple digets if they have to.
I was shitting myself tbh but it all worked out ok.
One of the kids had been reported missing that morning the other was homeless and ran away from the police.
The police did give me and the gf at the time a lift back home though which was good. |
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over a year ago
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
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Child running down a the middle of a road, car could be/ maybe approaching, hold on a second let me stretch over and get my phone.
Ok got phone, now let me go into settings to locate camera,
Marmite, people are laughing at you now |
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"When adults become scared of children, we have a problem as a society.
Well said!!
It's not the children that's the problem it's the parents .
9 times out of 10, correct - but doesn't mean you wait for the parents to do something if there is a situation of a child in danger, surely?
And that 1 in 10 parents says I didn't let my child out that man tried kidnapping him must have taken him through open window : if you had put your phone video you can't be accused of stuff
Like I said some bat shit crazy people out there
That's right I flew out of my car, I held the child and escorted him to the pavement, now by your statement, i should of carried a screaming child to my car to retrieve my phone to record the events.
Man carrying screaming child to car!
What world do you live in numb nuts!
The one where people are sensible enough to take a phone from the car in a emergency
Child running down a the middle of a road, car could be/ maybe approaching, hold on a second let me stretch over and get my phone.
Ok got phone, now let me go into settings to locate camera,
Marmite, people are laughing at you now "
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over a year ago
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
What a load of bollocks you are stating, I have child safeguarding training for professional purposes.
My only advice to the OP, is that as there were others around you ask one of them to stay with you so you are never alone with a child. Otherwise you did exactly the right thing. this from a professional with safeguarding responsibility. "
I actually walked the child across the other side of the road infront of a temple and I did beckon a woman to stand by me. So yes because of todays society it went through my head, I need a woman here.
But I'm sure if a woman was in my position, she wouldn't be thinking I need a man here.
And i felt bad that I had those thoughts of what people who hasn't seen the full picture might think.
And then you've got numb nuts further up on the thread saying I should of recorded it on my phone |
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"Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
The 'dregs of society'?
Do tell...
It's upto you what you do . Your obviously going to argue about this for some stupid reason that is beyond me
But take my advice at the very least video what your doing and saying with other people's kids especially if you see them in the street . Just switch the video on yoy don't need to make a big thing of it
A few seconds to safeguard yourself is always worth the time and stops false allegations later .
Did you know the police won't touch a child without another officer as an witness if they don't have ccctv in their car or on them unless there is a serious risk to harm .
Call the police and show them the video if you think they have or may have been in danger .
What a load of bollocks you are stating, I have child safeguarding training for professional purposes.
My only advice to the OP, is that as there were others around you ask one of them to stay with you so you are never alone with a child. Otherwise you did exactly the right thing. this from a professional with safeguarding responsibility.
I actually walked the child across the other side of the road infront of a temple and I did beckon a woman to stand by me. So yes because of todays society it went through my head, I need a woman here.
But I'm sure if a woman was in my position, she wouldn't be thinking I need a man here.
And i felt bad that I had those thoughts of what people who hasn't seen the full picture might think.
And then you've got numb nuts further up on the thread saying I should of recorded it on my phone"
I don't know about that , Myra hindley saw to it that women can get tarred with the same brush
Those that are older than you were told to speak to a woman if your lost . Now we tell our kids to speak to a police man only or ring us
The next step we will take with our kids is gps tagging and I can see that happening in my kids lifetime if not mine |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
A friend and I (female) were in Fleetwood and a boy was fishing for crabs in the boating pond.
We peered into his bucket and he had been lucky - he had caught some. We asked him how long it had takem him to catch them.
The boy replied: 'My mum and dad say I can't speak to strangers.'
His mum and dad were only 25ft away. There is a lot of paranoia around. |
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That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
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you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
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Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing."
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That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!"
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
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"A friend and I (female) were in Fleetwood and a boy was fishing for crabs in the boating pond.
We peered into his bucket and he had been lucky - he had caught some. We asked him how long it had takem him to catch them.
The boy replied: 'My mum and dad say I can't speak to strangers.'
His mum and dad were only 25ft away. There is a lot of paranoia around."
Reminds me of a holiday I had in Malta, we had been to the beach and I found a hermit crab.
Thinking it would be of interest to my mates two little daughters I took it back in a bucket of seawater for them to the bar he runs.
'Daddy, daddy Robert's given us crabs' The shouted through the bar excitedly. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"15mins ago I'm in my car parked up on a busy residential road where buses travel on.
To my astonishment a little baby boy of around three years old is running down the middle of the road by himself, and no one intervenes.
I jump out of my car and take him to one side.
Now he's screaming, and people are looking at me.
All ended well he opened the front door and went for a wonder.
Has our society gone that bad that no one was prepared to help a helpless child, and then I'm thinking do they think I'm abducting him.
At the moment, I'm angry with what we are becoming "
Unfortunatly we live in a sick society,very sick |
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By *r Man. OP Man
over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
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How detailed do you want it, his race the colour of his hair how much he weighed, what door number he lived at.
Read my post, if you find the question too upsetting for you maybe because you are or would be a bye stander, then please carry on knocking that you don't believe.
At least ive got your attention and your spending your evening messaging a fantasist, no who's the Muppet lol....
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"A friend and I (female) were in Fleetwood and a boy was fishing for crabs in the boating pond.
We peered into his bucket and he had been lucky - he had caught some. We asked him how long it had takem him to catch them.
The boy replied: 'My mum and dad say I can't speak to strangers.'
His mum and dad were only 25ft away. There is a lot of paranoia around."
That's not a sign of how things change:
https://youtu.be/y3FnCiRpdQ4
(Though nowadays if a strange lady offers to show me her puppies, I'm after her like a shot.  )
You did good OP, never worry about other people, just do what you would want anyone else to do if it was your kid.
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"I've learned my lesson on these things, I was in Glasgow about 2years ago, a little girl about 7 fell and was bleeding out her nose and mouth, I tried to do the right thing and help her while trying to see if I could see her parents, next thing I knew I was pulled away from her, slapped in the face and called a peadophile by the mother.
So from now on if I see a child getting hurt I walk right past and don't get involveddid that really happen if so I'm assuming you involved the police "
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
How detailed do you want it, his race the colour of his hair how much he weighed, what door number he lived at.
Read my post, if you find the question too upsetting for you maybe because you are or would be a bye stander, then please carry on knocking that you don't believe.
At least ive got your attention and your spending your evening messaging a fantasist, no who's the Muppet lol....
Next question "
your responses have been defensive and sniping when in reality i said earlier that you did the right thing..
is it because your not good with criticism that you feel the need to resort to childish jibes about bystanding and being upset..?
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OP I wouldn't let it even cross your mind twice to try and explain the finer details to people who are doubting you.
You have potentially saved a kid from serious harm, nice work
Unfortunately there are plenty of bell ends on here who want cctv footage and a re enactment of event before they will believe someone has done a good deed.
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over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
How detailed do you want it, his race the colour of his hair how much he weighed, what door number he lived at.
Read my post, if you find the question too upsetting for you maybe because you are or would be a bye stander, then please carry on knocking that you don't believe.
At least ive got your attention and your spending your evening messaging a fantasist, no who's the Muppet lol....
Next question
your responses have been defensive and sniping when in reality i said earlier that you did the right thing..
is it because your not good with criticism that you feel the need to resort to childish jibes about bystanding and being upset..?
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If I've upset you I apologise, but all I was doing was responding to your accusation that maybe I'm telling untruth.
People have responded by stating that they wouldn't do what I did. I havnt responded.
But if some ask me a question or make an assumption of my credibility. Then I'm responding withe the full force of Mr man. |
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over a year ago
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
How detailed do you want it, his race the colour of his hair how much he weighed, what door number he lived at.
Read my post, if you find the question too upsetting for you maybe because you are or would be a bye stander, then please carry on knocking that you don't believe.
At least ive got your attention and your spending your evening messaging a fantasist, no who's the Muppet lol....
Next question
your responses have been defensive and sniping when in reality i said earlier that you did the right thing..
is it because your not good with criticism that you feel the need to resort to childish jibes about bystanding and being upset..?
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"Which is what, exactly?
That every body is shit scared to act when they see a child running down the road he passed people who were on the pavement just looking and doing nothing.
That's what!
maybe you just reacted quicker, you did what was right..
society isn't perfect but not sure i share your _iew that we are becoming something worse or bad because a curious 3 year old opens a door and wanders out (as potentially dangerous as it may have been)
you don't know what those looking were thinking..
The child navigated two corners from where he lived, I would like to know what you would be thinking if you saw a child running down the middle of a road by himself.
Something like "oh dear, look at that"
you watched the child 'navigate 2 corners'?
did you not think to step forward before you say you did..?
smells fishy now..
Easy pickings you are.
His brothers who came looking for him came from two corners away.
Next question!!
funny how you were so detailed in your OP and yet omitted to mention the brothers..
How detailed do you want it, his race the colour of his hair how much he weighed, what door number he lived at.
Read my post, if you find the question too upsetting for you maybe because you are or would be a bye stander, then please carry on knocking that you don't believe.
At least ive got your attention and your spending your evening messaging a fantasist, no who's the Muppet lol....
Next question
your responses have been defensive and sniping when in reality i said earlier that you did the right thing..
is it because your not good with criticism that you feel the need to resort to childish jibes about bystanding and being upset..?
If I've upset you I apologise, but all I was doing was responding to your accusation that maybe I'm telling untruth.
People have responded by stating that they wouldn't do what I did. I havnt responded.
But if some ask me a question or make an assumption of my credibility. Then I'm responding withe the full force of Mr man."
i'm not upset..
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I've read somewhere that if you find one, you shouldn't touch it because if you leave your scent on it, the mother won't take it back. I'd leave it alone and let nature take its course. |
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1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing."
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Oh when it comes to the police, if you report something where a child is in iminant danger, every time you've moaned about them being slow, about how shit they were when your car gor vandalised or stolen etc evaporates.
They will be there so fast and in so much force that you realise just why they were slow or a shit undermanned when you were upset about your car.
When I reported two kids being abducted while i kept the two men with them talking in under 5 miniutes had 4 police cars (one from each road of the cross roads) turn up including the armed reaponse van.
Think there wnded up ebing about 10 officers there in total by the ten miniute mark
That's really good, however where we live, we are at least 10 minutes from the nearest town and we don't have local bobbies anymore, so if this happened in my area, I would have to take action, rather than wait 10 minutes for a police car, it may be too late by then. Agree the police are not all bad
Ten miniutes at what speed?
There will be cars in your area and when something like that comes up all of them will be heading there in the teipple digets if they have to.
I was shitting myself tbh but it all worked out ok.
One of the kids had been reported missing that morning the other was homeless and ran away from the police.
The police did give me and the gf at the time a lift back home though which was good."
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over a year ago
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"The problem is, in crisis situations, that the vast majority of people fall in to two categories:
1/ those who don;t know what to do
2/ those who think someone else will do something
You did the right thing.
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"Never touch anyone's child or speak to them it's so easy to be accused . You should have called the police and follow the child or videos your self and the child
It's so easy to be accused of trying to kidnap a kid
I disagree.
It is incumbent upon adults to keep children safe and on the right path - whether they're your or someone else's.
Let's assume, for a moment, that something had gone wrong and with the nest intentions that child had escaped from its parents and for whatever reason was running down the road.
Let's assume for a moment that it was your child.
Would you rather no-one did anything?
Yoy have no idea how bat shit crazy some people are . I deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis .
I also know that the sort of person that allows a 3 year old or doesn't notice a 3 year old missing is likely to accuse you of being a kiddy snatcher
Rather than accept they are a bad mother
how do you know these things? Why a bad mother? Noone has said who was in charge of the child, mother, father, grandparents.
Have you never known anyone whose child has slipped them? They can be like bloody Houdini . "
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