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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " Not at all this is the PC crowd out of control and they need to be put back in the shed . Him | |||
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"So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " As if it is | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " Erm, think i'll wait for someone else to reply before i decide. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? Not at all this is the PC crowd out of control and they need to be put back in the shed . Him" Couldn't agree more. | |||
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"Is coffee a race now? " Haha, I had not considered that possibility! | |||
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"White or Brown Bread ? " I'm shocked lol Him | |||
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"I don't believe that for an instant." lol I saw what you did there Him | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before. Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function? | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. " Yet you still get whiteboards... | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards..." They are smartboards now | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards... They are smartboards now" That's proper racist then! | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. " And yet, what most black/chalk boards have been replaced with these days, is called a whiteboard. Should I be offended by that? | |||
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"White or Brown Bread ? I'm shocked lol Him" Well if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL | |||
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"White or Brown Bread ? I'm shocked lol HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL" LMFAO brill Him | |||
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"White or Brown Bread ? I'm shocked lol HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL" What about all those foodies who say they won't touch white foods? | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time" That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive. Here endeth my little rant. | |||
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"White or Brown Bread ? I'm shocked lol HimWell if that shocked you Brown, White or Yellow Rice LOL What about all those foodies who say they won't touch white foods? " It could get way out of hand . I am just glad the majority of people have at least some bit of common sense . Him | |||
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"I don't believe that for an instant. lol I saw what you did there Him" | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " they were pulling your leg or they have an agenda to perpetuate urban myth's.. had something similar at work where someone was saying to refer to a black guy as black was racist, even when told by the mate who was the guy in question 'i am black, its not an issue' the original guy wouldn't have it.. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before. Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function? " I'm not sure how asking 'with or without milk' is any clearer than 'black or white' I also think that blaming every stupid idea that pops into someone's head as 'PC gone mad' had gone totally mad to. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? Really? That sounds decidedly odd. I'm part of the much hated PC Brigade and I've never heard this one before. Could it be, just possibly, that "with or without milk" was clearer when dealing with mass catering at a large function? I'm not sure how asking 'with or without milk' is any clearer than 'black or white' I also think that blaming every stupid idea that pops into someone's head as 'PC gone mad' had gone totally mad to. " I agree with the last bit. It doesn't sound credible that race was used as the reason for this claim. I don't drink tea or coffee but I think being clear about milk in a world full of allergies and intolerance is a good thing. It's all yucky as far as I'm concerned though. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??" Yeah it must be a subconscious thing | |||
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"I fear for black pudding." What about white pudding? | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? Yeah it must be a subconscious thing " I also like burnt toast hmmmmm | |||
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"Some idiot in london has too much time on his or her hand and needs a proper job. Its not racist at all" What's the connection with London | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??" SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. | |||
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"I fear for black pudding." You can keep black pudding, but what about black forest gateau? I hope liking that isnt racist. | |||
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"Wtf? That's just mental! Who comes up with this crap? Isn't going out of the way to avoid the word black more racicst than just accepting that things have colours, that's black, that's red, that's white that's blue... Who gives a fuck, it's a word that describes a colour...it has no power. Only the mind that uses the word gives it power, and a mind scared to use the word black, is more racist than the mind that sees no issue with the word. Get a grip weird coffee company! " Technically black is not an actual colour. Black is the absence of all colour. Just saying. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? Yeah it must be a subconscious thing I also like burnt toast hmmmmm" Interesting, i was going to say you liked to add the soya milk because you secretly hated him and wanted to destroy his black identity with your white supremacists milk, but now you mention the toast I'm just not sure. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words." Don't knock it until you have tried it .... i'll bring a soya latte to the next msd | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive. Here endeth my little rant." I'm appointing myself spokes person for women, I know what's sexist and what's not, men eh who'd have em, don't talk to me about periods. Yeah that's how fucking ridiculous do Gooders sound, when they presume to know what is offensive, I've suffered racism, real racism, lost tooth, 4 hrs in a&e footprint on my head racism, and not once during the extensive beating did he ask me if I wanted black or white coffee, use a black board, sing baa baa fucking black sheep, or avoid telling me he was going to beat me till I black out. Racism exists, that's a sad fact of life, but some people are trying too hard to not be racist, so hard they are becoming a bit racist if that makes sense | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. Don't knock it until you have tried it .... i'll bring a soya latte to the next msd" And be accused of being a fellow traveler. No chance. You're on that wall in your own, unless you can find a few vegans. They're for the wall to come the revolution. | |||
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"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China?" So is medication that is different for white and black people racist? | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?" I am not sure that happens anymore ... more of an urban myth now, bandied about by the anti-pc brigade | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words." You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. | |||
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"Of course it isnt - if it was how would you buy black or white paint .... without it being racist .... and imagine what a problem you would have buying green paint (poor Martians). " Ooh I'm one. | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?" Oh for.... This refers to some people who just did a different version of the song, just for fun. It was nothing at all to do with racism. The original song wasn't banned. Just someone did it a bit differently. | |||
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"Obviously not accusing you of anything OP but this is like one of those pics you see with text on Facebook shared by some ugly fat white bloke saying "this country is far too PC it's not like good old days". Ha, what I just said was a bit racist wasn't it? Ah well. " Like you never want to hear a sentence that starts "Im not racist, but..." | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race??" Some of us even take soya milk because we disagree with the rape and abuse of cows | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. " Yeah ... let's start a soya milk revolution. Been in it for years, thank goodness its mainstream now .... | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?" I thought the rainbow sheep were the LGBT sheep? | |||
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"I think you will find that "costa" are the company that have made it out to be racist to ask for a black coffee, they are trying to insist on you asking for a coffee without as its more PC " No,Costa and other coffee chains have committed a far graver sin. They don't serve coffee it has to be a made up sudo italian word, not just for the coffee but the mug you want it in too... Ask for a medium black coffee and you may as well be talking Martian. | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either." It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. | |||
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"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China? So is medication that is different for white and black people racist?" Different people have different needs and some races are more susceptible you some conditions than others. For example, darker skinned people are more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency than lighter skinned people. There are many other, far more serious illnesses, that affect some races more than others. The reality is is that we are not all the same and that there are differences between races that do go deeper than just the colour of the skin. To ignore that fact in the treatment of people just in case it was considered racist would be to do a disservice to those affected. Being equal does not mean being the same. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " simple answer to that is no end of | |||
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"It would only be racist if there was an actual difference in the coffee served to black people and white people. One gets a plastic cup, the other bone China? So is medication that is different for white and black people racist? Different people have different needs and some races are more susceptible you some conditions than others. For example, darker skinned people are more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency than lighter skinned people. There are many other, far more serious illnesses, that affect some races more than others. The reality is is that we are not all the same and that there are differences between races that do go deeper than just the colour of the skin. To ignore that fact in the treatment of people just in case it was considered racist would be to do a disservice to those affected. Being equal does not mean being the same." Exactly! Women have been getting the wrong doses of medications for years as the people who put themselves forward for trials tend to be young men. | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time" How racist. | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards... They are smartboards now" Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties. Not. | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards... They are smartboards now Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties. Not. " They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles. | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either. It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. " Well I read an inter_iew in the guardian (not exactly a right wing haven) with a head teacher who banned sports day being competitive. Her logic was basically "I'm not athletic, I hated sports day, therefore I want to project my insecurities on everyone else". Well I'm shit at maths and I didn't like it much at school, doesn't mean we should ban it for everyone else... | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards... They are smartboards now Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties. Not. They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles. " IT have told you to stop drawing those cock pics, but you just dont listen! | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. " Two more for the wall then I see. | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards... They are smartboards now Actually I'm offended by smartboards because they descriminate against people with learning difficulties. Not. They're not that smart. None of the ones at work seem to like my writing and refuse to display my scribbles. " Maybe they should be called "smugboards" - boards that think they are smarter than everyone else but aren't really | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either. It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. " Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points 1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform 2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened I saw a quote ice that summed thus up "Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous" -Abriham Lincon | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time" Soooo true | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time Soooo true " I am not black, but my partner and our children are .... so, can't I have an opinion about what I experience as part of their experience? Maybe I dont need to be there for my partner, as he can fend for himself, but I will certainly call people for their attitude or comments about my children and other children. Obviously I am not talking about black coffee here ... but racist attitudes | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. " No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they " Chain chain chain Chain of fools... | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields?" Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol. Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " No but it is racist to reply "ni@!er brown" sorry I mean no offence | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields? Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol. Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. " I was in the Beaufort bar at the Savoy last night and the pianist played and sang Blackbird! | |||
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"Wtf? That's just mental! Who comes up with this crap? Isn't going out of the way to avoid the word black more racicst than just accepting that things have colours, that's black, that's red, that's white that's blue... Who gives a fuck, it's a word that describes a colour...it has no power. Only the mind that uses the word gives it power, and a mind scared to use the word black, is more racist than the mind that sees no issue with the word. Get a grip weird coffee company! Technically black is not an actual colour. Black is the absence of all colour. Just saying." Cool story bro | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields? Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol. Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. I was in the Beaufort bar at the Savoy last night and the pianist played and sang Blackbird! " That's ok, because he used both black and white keys | |||
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"Do you realise that some pre school children are being taught 'baa baa rainbow sheep' how do you explain to a two year old that there are no rainbow sheep in the fields? Those teachers should try telling Rolling Stones fans they can't sing Paint it black anymore, love to see the reaction, lol. Just glad I don't drink tea or coffee, really can't be doing with this sort of ridiculous nonsense. " I drink it either but it's bloody difficult to order for other people. They say "get me a coffee" and you say "coffee please" and you get twenty questions back with Italian sounding words I can't pronounce | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either. It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points 1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform 2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened I saw a quote ice that summed thus up "Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous" -Abriham Lincon " I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day... | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either. It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points 1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform 2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened I saw a quote ice that summed thus up "Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous" -Abriham Lincon I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day..." Ok I stand corrected, but it's something I never see in Birmingham , and I can only go on what I see | |||
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" I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day..." We were in McDonald's the other day, and my wife said "have you seen those cadets over there?" I turned round to see two RAF Policemen having their breakfast! | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they " Black Country wench here, it was the heart of the industrial revolution. Which I believe was the early 1820s, wasn't slavery abolished around this time? Correct me if I'm wrong......aye it. | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they Black Country wench here, it was the heart of the industrial revolution. Which I believe was the early 1820s, wasn't slavery abolished around this time? Correct me if I'm wrong......aye it. " Ah Dow now, it was abaht then | |||
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"I swear 99% of the 'PC gone mad' stuff is just made up stuff or misinterpreted like the rainbow sheep and this alleged coffee incident. Then there was Birmingham allegedly 'banning Christmas' a few years ago, which never happened either. It's generally scaremongering from the right wing shared via Twitter and Facebook via picture format. They're so thick they'll share it without even researching it. There'll be plenty on here who will have done just that. Funny innit. Like the one that said a tesco in London stopped a soldier entering their store in his uniform, two points 1 when was the last time you saw a serving soldier walking the streets in his uniform 2 there isn't even a tesco in the location it allegedly happened I saw a quote ice that summed thus up "Don't believe everything you see on the internet just because it is accredited to someone who is famous" -Abriham Lincon I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day... Ok I stand corrected, but it's something I never see in Birmingham , and I can only go on what I see" To my knowledge most military bases are in the south with some strategically placed in the north and Scotland. So you probably wouldn't see many because there aren't any bases near you. We live near-ish to one so it's pretty common | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they " So you're a bloody feminist.... | |||
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" I work in central London and see members of the armed forces walking about in uniform almost every day... We were in McDonald's the other day, and my wife said "have you seen those cadets over there?" I turned round to see two RAF Policemen having their breakfast! " They do seem to get younger every year...lol | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they So you're a bloody feminist.... " Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they So you're a bloody feminist.... Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there " Ladies and Gentleman, Tyson Fury has joined the forum | |||
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"so are we racist?. we are from the black country. No, I was born in the Black Country, but according to some over sensitive prick from Wolverhampton the Black Country flag is racist, because it features a chain, The Black Country made chains We exported those chains People used those chains to chain black people Wtf Those chains probably were used by the suffragettes to chain themselves to railings thus gaining votes for women, but some people just can't be positive can they So you're a bloody feminist.... Yeah, I'm all for the women's movement, I hate it when they just lie there Ladies and Gentleman, Tyson Fury has joined the forum " I was being ironic, in fact I was being more than ironic, I was being moronic | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " As a black person I've NEVER come across a black person who is remotely bothered by such bollocks: it's white people nonsense. I had a boss I got on well with. The first time he offered to make me coffee he asked me how I took it. I said black, like my men, and that became our standing joke. Someone overheard us and took me aside and wanted me to take out a grievance for his racist remarks. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " No. But some.people like cream in coffee so white is not descriptive enough. I tend to ask, milk and sugar? | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time" Half the time?!! In my experience close to 100% of this kind if bollocks stems from white people. Black people have bigger fish to fry, preventing our kids joining gangs, getting an education etc than worrying about how hot beverages are served. | |||
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"Went to the Garden Centre Last Week and Asked For a SPADE... you should have seen the Look I got.. " My other half asked me to pass him "the black man" when we were in the garden. He thought he was being funny. When my daughters and I looked at him he said "what?" Can't think why my daughters don't like him! | |||
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"Ok I'm black, it's not racist, I wouldn't mind but it's not black people who come up with this stuff half the time That's the whole point though isn't it, these organisations, committees or whatever who appoint themselves as spokespersons for an ethnic group to which they don't belong, deciding what might be offensive to others. And they get paid to do this, generally by taxpayers money. Now that's what I find offensive. Here endeth my little rant. I'm appointing myself spokes person for women, I know what's sexist and what's not, men eh who'd have em, don't talk to me about periods. Yeah that's how fucking ridiculous do Gooders sound, when they presume to know what is offensive, I've suffered racism, real racism, lost tooth, 4 hrs in a&e footprint on my head racism, and not once during the extensive beating did he ask me if I wanted black or white coffee, use a black board, sing baa baa fucking black sheep, or avoid telling me he was going to beat me till I black out. Racism exists, that's a sad fact of life, but some people are trying too hard to not be racist, so hard they are becoming a bit racist if that makes sense " Do gooding white people: the bane of black people. | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " Apparently in Europe, it's to be referred to as An Americano only instead if a Black coffee. Which is really silly considering in Majority Black countries, it's still refer to as a Black coffee. Black Berries will be next on there list. | |||
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"I'm going with "no wuch thing ever happened" but they just wanted something to say" That was my first impression, but by the op not the "friend". | |||
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"This is more that a 7 year old debate, originating in the US college (university) campuses. It was around the time when there was a movement to take back the word "black" in language. Similar divisions can be seen in sex when there was a drive for androgynous terms like 'police person' or 'fire person' and the like, instead of police woman or police man. " we were forced to adopt the term signaller in place of signalman when rail track came along seems to have stuck now | |||
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"Some idiot in london has too much time on his or her hand and needs a proper job. Its not racist at all What's the connection with London" Its just a saying here... where law makers.. do gooders and government is based. | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended " At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now " Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do? | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? " I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are. . . . . If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream! | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are. . . . . If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream! " You need a 'heavy cummer' [ yuk; I can't believe I wrote that ] | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. Two more for the wall then I see. " Just two more humans trying not to play their part in the destruction of the planet, that's all. | |||
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"Estrogen in soya milk? Discuss " Go on then... | |||
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"Today someone told me that they used to work in catering for large functions. They told me that when serving coffee, they had to ask "with or without milk" because to ask if they wanted "black or white coffee" was considered to be racist. So is it racist to ask "would you like black or white coffee?"? I have come to the conclusion that many of these PC types who come up with stuff like this do so because they are closet racists. And just like all those who are not comfortable in their skin, they are always looking for ways to point fingers at others and label others as being what they are. . . . . If someone asked me how I wanted a coffee and told me saying I could not say black or white, I had to with or without milk, I would demand cream! " It actually doesn't bovver me whether I'm asked 'with or without milk' or 'black or white' but if I asked either way and was told I had to say the other I would simply consider that as extremely rude and go and buy my coffee else where. I'm there for coffee, not lessons or lectures in either racist terminology or reactionary Miniver Cheevyism. I just want coffee the way I like. White 1 sugar. Any one offering? | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. Two more for the wall then I see. Just two more humans trying not to play their part in the destruction of the planet, that's all. " Are you always this serious? | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do?" It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. " The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty. There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one. Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty. There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one. Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different." You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest. http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/ | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty. There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one. Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different. You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest. http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/" And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty. There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one. Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different. You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest. http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/ And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU. " I'm against cruelty anywhere in the world bro, not just in the EU. | |||
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"With or without milk is a tricky one, as I take soya milk in my tea and coffee because of intolerance .... I am not sure if that is in any way connected to the fact that my partner is black and our kids are mixed race?? SOYA MILK!! WTF.. Come the revolution people who drink that sort of crud will be first up against the wall. Mark my words. You drink milk from a cows tit pumped full of drugs that is meant to turn a baby calf into a massive behemoth of an animal. Yeah nah I'll stick to my soya milk cheers pal. The number of drugs cleared for animals producing milk for human consumption is tiny, as it goes - and even the the milk withdraw is usually pretty hefty. There are quite a few issues that you could have chosen with dairying in general (the one that I was always uncomforable with was the shooting of bull calves - which hardly happens now, by the way), but that seems to be an odd one. Unless, of course you have been watching/reading things pertaining to US dairying - the rules in the EU are vastly different. You're right, there are quite a few issues, that was just one of them. Here is a summary of the rest. http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/animals-used-food-factsheets/cows-milk-cruel-unhealthy-product/ And yet, you quote PETA, a US organisation, with an article relating to dairying IN THE USA (as stated, actually in the second paragraph). As I have said, our welfare regs are some of the highest in the world, and a lot of that article simply isn't relevant to dairying in the EU. I'm against cruelty anywhere in the world bro, not just in the EU. " Whilst it is sad for cows in the USA that they have almost no animal welfare regs, this is unlikely to impact milk in Britain, is it? | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do? It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. " The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here. | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do? It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here. " That's entirely his fault for calling the pot black, I have no sympathy for the kettle at all. | |||
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"no it isn't racist but don't blame the P.C brigade it's the anti p.c. brigade who start these stupid stories ... " Yep! | |||
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"no it isn't racist but don't blame the P.C brigade it's the anti p.c. brigade who start these stupid stories ..." What tosh! The simple fact is that if the PC brigade did not come up with such an asinine idea of what is and isn't racist then there would be no story. That you blame those of us who complain about such PC conditioning shows how well it is working on you. Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement. | |||
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" Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement." I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell? | |||
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"I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell? " I did not mention any particular faith, I made a general statement, in the same way as I could have said that the race to maximum 'political correctness' is lead by the most radical elements of the pseudo liberal ultra left wing of the political spectrum and supported by the equally unpalatable ultra right wing. While the rush to curb sexual freedoms is lead by Ultra conservative right wing religious groups. But I chose to be so verbose. For this I apologise. | |||
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"I said: Will you feel the same way when it is turned on you? Remember you (and I along with everyone else here) are seen as deviants by many and we are already coming under attack by the the more radical elements of many religions and they are the ones who drive the PC movement. I was with you until the religious bit entered the story- do you have Mormons knocking on your door telling you that swinging sends you to the 7th level of hell? I did not mention any particular faith, I made a general statement, in the same way as I could have said that the race to maximum 'political correctness' is lead by the most radical elements of the pseudo liberal ultra left wing of the political spectrum and supported by the equally unpalatable ultra right wing. While the rush to curb sexual freedoms is lead by Ultra conservative right wing religious groups. But I chose to be so verbose. For this I apologise." OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently... Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit | |||
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"OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently... Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit " I take it that you never watch or listen to the Sunday morning morality debates on TV and radio. Because it seems to me to be a recurring subject. I have also noticed that whenever there is a proposal to open a sex shop or club or relax any sexual restrictions (prostitution, brothels and the like) then there is always a well organised and funded highly voluble campaign to oppose liberalisation that is always led by religious community leaders. But as you say you cant remember the last time you saw anything... Just proves the old adage 'a week is a long time in politics'. | |||
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"OK I'm just still unsure who is out there actively trying to curb sexual freedoms? It's not something I've seen debated on question time or in the commons recently... Some religious groups tell their members that bum sex is wrong, but I haven't seen them stood outside gay saunas with placards since my last visit I take it that you never watch or listen to the Sunday morning morality debates on TV and radio. Because it seems to me to be a recurring subject. I have also noticed that whenever there is a proposal to open a sex shop or club or relax any sexual restrictions (prostitution, brothels and the like) then there is always a well organised and funded highly voluble campaign to oppose liberalisation that is always led by religious community leaders. But as you say you cant remember the last time you saw anything... Just proves the old adage 'a week is a long time in politics'." Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes? | |||
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"This is an ancient debate which I remember raising its head over fifteen years ago. At the time l decided to use the phrase "with milk or without". Why, because coffee is not black and 'with or without milk' is accurate. Wow is that painful? I am staunch believer in PC because at the end of the day its values are firstly being polite, secondly it is about being inclusive. All those against PC go watch 70s sitcoms and representation of minorities and women in pre 1990s films. In an age where we are trying to present positive role models for young girls, shape the behavior of young men, include gay and trans as equals in in the community. Then we need to take care of how we use language. As a man l need to take care how l address a woman and seek consent for bedroom talk. In discussing other ethnic groups or cultures, why would l seek to deliberately give insult? Politeness, inclusiveness, tolerance and treating people equally without being taken for a mug l believe are British values. Unfortunately in my _iew in the PC debate too many listen to the hype!" Ozzz you're a very wise man | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do? It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. . I think the commonly used term is, white goods! " Bloody racist. | |||
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"However don't scoff, for this was the reasoning behind the demise of the school blackboard in favour of the chalkboard. Yet you still get whiteboards..." This is a myth. My sister is a teacher and I can assure you it's still called a blackboard. | |||
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"White goods; maybe these should be offered in black, brown and yellow too for the PC brigade not to get offended At one point I had all black appliances in my kitchen, I think I'm the racist now Microwave, refrigerator, kettle: Black Dishwasher, washing machine, dryer, food processor, blender, can opener: White Toaster, bread maker,: Silver Damn, I am about to get done for favouring White more than any other colour Don't these idiots have anything better to do? It doesn't matter what colour they are they're all equally domestic appliances. The poor kettle doesn't think so; overworked, underpaid and over-here. That's entirely his fault for calling the pot black, I have no sympathy for the kettle at all." I thought it was the pot that called the kettle black! So it's really all the fault of the kettle for not taking the pot to a racial discrimination tribunal when it had the outright audacity to call the kettle black in the first place. Personally, if I'd been the kettle, I'd have just smoked the pot and not worried about what colour it thought I was: But that's just me. | |||
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"Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes? " You should. If you do you will be surprised at the 'unholy' coalitions that are springing up between the ultra left (anti religion) and the ultra right (conservative religious) groups to curtail every ones freedom of actions and even thought. Just take a look at the American Families Association website and read their objectives (remember there are similar here but less open and above board). | |||
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"Honestly, no I don't listen to those debates. But we do visit AbFabs and it's a bit more relevant to forum. Some people are trying to close that down - are they religious nuts or just secular prudes? You should. If you do you will be surprised at the 'unholy' coalitions that are springing up between the ultra left (anti religion) and the ultra right (conservative religious) groups to curtail every ones freedom of actions and even thought. Just take a look at the American Families Association website and read their objectives (remember there are similar here but less open and above board)." Well extreme left and extreme right are basically the same so I can believe what you are saying. But seriously, how are these debates impacting everyday life? Other than Kestrals might eventually shut (due to a council prude rather than the local church) | |||
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"This is an ancient debate which I remember raising its head over fifteen years ago. At the time l decided to use the phrase "with milk or without". Why, because coffee is not black and 'with or without milk' is accurate. Wow is that painful? I am staunch believer in PC because at the end of the day its values are firstly being polite, secondly it is about being inclusive. All those against PC go watch 70s sitcoms and representation of minorities and women in pre 1990s films. In an age where we are trying to present positive role models for young girls, shape the behavior of young men, include gay and trans as equals in in the community. Then we need to take care of how we use language. As a man l need to take care how l address a woman and seek consent for bedroom talk. In discussing other ethnic groups or cultures, why would l seek to deliberately give insult? Politeness, inclusiveness, tolerance and treating people equally without being taken for a mug l believe are British values. Unfortunately in my _iew in the PC debate too many listen to the hype!" I agree with what you say about being both polite and inclusive however I don't think that that has anything to do with being PC. To me it is neither polite or inclusive to hall someone up for the way they ask for their coffee to either have milk or not. That's just incredibly rude. All that being said I have to say that I wonder whether this story actually has any real truth in it and, if it does, whether the truth of the matter has more to do with finding out if people actually want milk, some other whitener, or non at all. I suspect that this is really a red herring thrown up by the anti-PC brigade but more fool the PC guys for jumping to its defence. It's really all just a storm in a tea cup (or coffee mug if you prefer). | |||
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"Well extreme left and extreme right are basically the same so I can believe what you are saying. But seriously, how are these debates impacting everyday life? Other than Kestrals might eventually shut (due to a council prude rather than the local church)" Maybe because the council prudes can justify their stance because they are backed by the local clergy, feminist groups and the like who although they represent probably less than 10% of the electorate can wield power because they are organised. just a thought... | |||
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