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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Pereli angel GTs brilliant tyres for all weather riding.
I've no idea show Bridgestone sells the god awful battleaxe tyres though.
It depends how you drive/ride tbh.
Matters a bit less on cars as a slip isn't usually gonna end bad.
If you do shut load a of motorway commuting a decent hard tyre mad efor high milage will last longer than a couple if sets of cheap tyres.
If you like thrashing it about the lanes then a decent sticky tyre will give you more fun and grip but probably won't last as long as a harder budget sport tyre.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I always get premium tyres usually Dunlop sport max all wether tyres.
If your going to be on the road a lot in winter I would recommend winter tyres as they grip the road better.
Hope this helps x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The biggest difference is the person behind the wheel LoL, if you go screeming round corners and pulling away like you are at brands hatch then they will wear out faster  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"depends on your vehicle and how you drive. one brand of tyre may perform well on a particular vehicle but poorly on another, especially so for motorcycles."
That is so true but then a brand new budget tyre or a 2 nd hand tyre with good grip is a lot safer in the wet than any just legal expensive tyre
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is a massive difference
I used to have a subaru impreza and put budgets on it.I did a 180 on a roundabout.not going fast.next day I went out and spent 450 quid and the problem was fixed.
motorsports spend millions developing tyres to grip. They would stick anything on if it made no difference |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I generally get around 10,000 miles out of a front set of tyres. I've tried a few brands.
Yokohama - shit in the wet
Pirelli - awesome grip
Roadstone - nothing fantastic
Hankook - only just put these on but so far so good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also if you are going for winter tyres do not buy just two drive tyres.it makes the car handle worse. I've been to a few crashes over the years where a car has come off the road due to mixing. |
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"There is a massive difference
I used to have a subaru impreza and put budgets on it.I did a 180 on a roundabout.not going fast.next day I went out and spent 450 quid and the problem was fixed.
motorsports spend millions developing tyres to grip. They would stick anything on if it made no difference"
a 1 litre mk2 fiesta on budget tyres probably wouldn't have 180ed because the power isn't as twitchy. it's not a criticism just saying that it differs from car to car and depends on how you drive. if you want to take it to the extreme you could change your tyres from wet weather to dry weather or vice versa every time you go out and you would see even more of a marked improvement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Always bought budget tyres and after umpteen years of driving had never experienced problems , but then again I am a professional driver and if you are skidding then you are not driving to the road conditions . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends entirely on the car and the driver. If your sliding you are driving too fast for the conditions.
I have used mowhawk tires on my mondeo and find them great for wet and dry grip with reasonable wear life.
On bikes or a quick car I would only use the best you can afford but there is no one brand that is better universally. |
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"Budget tyres don't grip as well, don't last as long and are noisier, they are a false economy even on a micra "
again, varies from car to car and is mostly dictated by your driving style. i disagree with premium tyres lasting longer. basically they dont unless you have a hard compound in which case the grip suffers same as any other tyre, premium or budget. road noise is down to tread pattern and compund so again not entirely accurate.
if you go too quick into a bend inertia will take over and determine you fate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just remember that tyres are the only part of your car/bike that are in contact with the road, you can have the best brakes, suspension, and driving ability in the world but if your tyres are shit, you will end up running out of road when you least expect it  |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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You mcan go into a bend quicker on better tyres, I have plenty of experience driving all kinds of vehicles on all sorts of tyres in all kinds of conditions. Cheap tyres are more dangerous.
Incidentally the vehicle I drive now used to have Dunlop as OE. It is now supplied with cheap Chinese tyres from new. They last less than 50% of the mileage of Dunlop. |
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" Cheap tyres are more dangerous.
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this is a popular myth.
there is nowt wrong with budget tyres.
i've spent a long time in the tyre industry and regularly had expert knowledge given to me by way of training and updates in technology from all the top manufacturers. i know about tyres.
most of the top players in the industry make budget brand tyres under another name, so unbeknowst to many folks, when they have a budget tyre on their vehicle they are infact running on technology by goodyear, michelin, continental, bridgestone etc etc.
no matter what tyres you use just don't press your vehicle too hard for the conditions and you'll be ok. |
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"Must depend on what your idea of a budget tyre is. I've met people who wouldn't touch Falken with a barge pole, but i find them excellent."
they are made by goodyear so hardly suprising you find them excellent. goodyear quality at budget price.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Must depend on what your idea of a budget tyre is. I've met people who wouldn't touch Falken with a barge pole, but i find them excellent.
they are made by goodyear so hardly suprising you find them excellent. goodyear quality at budget price.
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"There is a huge difference between a lesser known brand by one of the major manufacturers (cooper) and cheap nasty tyres from Eastern Europe or the third world. "
your information is misleading .... cooper make premium and budget tyres in both serbia and china
you're just worrying folk who neither drive like it's a racetrack or have performance cars |
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Nankang NS2 tyres on both my Alfa and Citroen. I love them. They have great grip throughout the year, wear well and are pretty quiet as well. Would sheets chose Falken and Nankang before an over priced similar performance premium brand there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If your doing the miles id go for a premium brand as they last longer and maintain a better grip, but if you're not then some budget (from the top end of the price range) will be ok. I generally only drive 200 a week and budgets work for me on a Citroen C5 |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"There is a huge difference between a lesser known brand by one of the major manufacturers (cooper) and cheap nasty tyres from Eastern Europe or the third world.
your information is misleading .... cooper make premium and budget tyres in both serbia and china
you're just worrying folk who neither drive like it's a racetrack or have performance cars "
I wouldn't put Chen Shings on my motorbike and I wouldn't put Trayals on my car. They range from a false economy to downright dangerous.
If you want to drive around on shoddy bargain bucket crap, that is your perogative. |
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"There is a huge difference between a lesser known brand by one of the major manufacturers (cooper) and cheap nasty tyres from Eastern Europe or the third world.
your information is misleading .... cooper make premium and budget tyres in both serbia and china
you're just worrying folk who neither drive like it's a racetrack or have performance cars
I wouldn't put Chen Shings on my motorbike and I wouldn't put Trayals on my car. They range from a false economy to downright dangerous.
If you want to drive around on shoddy bargain bucket crap, that is your perogative. "
trayal was the serbian tyres that are now made by cooper in serbia. if you want blow your money unecessarily then fill your boots but you should stop giving folks incorrect information just because you've driven a few cars and you think you know a few things. i can see you just want to pick fights on the forums and so i'm out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OP - just basics but soft (stickys) compound tyres have more grip in the wet but don't last nearly as long as a harder compound - which are fine in the dry but nowhere near as grippy in the wet.
Which budget tyres would work out for you is really trial & error depending on what you're driving & your driving style. Good luck! .......or year or whatever. ..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember on my old van having the ball joints done and some new tyres on it, i put budgets on as i was selling it in a few weeks, i went up the motorway in it and it scared the life out of me was like driving on jelly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the good old days of Goodyear Grand Prix S, I'd expect to get 30k miles from a set.
Normally went for Pirellis on the Audi, Alfa & Rover.
Rover came with Yokohamas - ok in dry but rubbish in the wet. Also wore out quickly.
Mazda came with Bridgestones factory fitted. Very noisy, poor grip, fast wearing (got just 8,000 miles use). I always choose Michelin Pilot Primacy now - quiet, grippy, hardwearing and within budget.
Worst tyres I ever put on (when I was poor), were budget Centaur - KwikFit own brand. Absolutely deadly shit. I'm a careful driver but show them a 'mildly moist' bend and they'd just let go. As soon as I could afford better ones, I swapped them. Never again.
Don't underestimate the importance of shocks, in the equation. Dodgy shocks can affect your handling and stopping distances, quite a bit - regardless of tyre quality.
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Being a consummate cheapskate, but also understanding the importance of having good tyres, I go for part worn branded. £25 a time fitted and balanced (215/55/16 ZR) - and yes, I check the sidewalls before they fit them. I drive over 25k miles a year, mostly motorway, at a cruising speed of around 95 on clear roads. I get around 10K miles out of the fronts, more out of the rears. Also, I pick up a puncture every year or so, and would be well pissed off having to scrap a £100 tyre if was pretty new. At £25 a time, I couldn't care lesss |
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About 18 months ago my father-in-law fitted budget tyres to his car.
6 months ago he came out to find a flat tyre. He tried to inflate it but it wouldn't hold any air.
He took the wheel off and found that the inside edge of the tyre had de-laminated....
The tread had come away from the carcass. He looked at the other tyres and they had done the same...
In the long run it's not worth the risk...buy decent tyres... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's a lot of Bollocks talked about tyres.
They affect each model of car in a different way. I always tell people to join an owners group on Facebook and find advice on what works best with a particular chasis.
For instance Goodyear Eagle F1's are crap on my Alfa but great on my Dads Focus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a lot of Bollocks talked about tyres.
They affect each model of car in a different way. I always tell people to join an owners group on Facebook and find advice on what works best with a particular chasis.
For instance Goodyear Eagle F1's are crap on my Alfa but great on my Dads Focus."
But a new budget tyre or Even a part worn tyre is safer than a barely legal expensive brand in normal wet weather driving |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's a lot of Bollocks talked about tyres.
They affect each model of car in a different way. I always tell people to join an owners group on Facebook and find advice on what works best with a particular chasis.
For instance Goodyear Eagle F1's are crap on my Alfa but great on my Dads Focus.
But a new budget tyre or Even a part worn tyre is safer than a barely legal expensive brand in normal wet weather driving "
Not always. I've known some horrific accidents caused by budget tyres loosing almost all grip in damp weather. Again though, much depends on the chassis and in a lot of cases the drivers ability to feel the available grip in any given situation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not just budget tyres,last winter i used Michelin winter tyres , loads and loads of absolutely fucking useless tread. It was like i was wearing glass tyres (in the damp/wet). Much more grip from my summer falkens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not just budget tyres,last winter i used Michelin winter tyres , loads and loads of absolutely fucking useless tread. It was like i was wearing glass tyres (in the damp/wet). Much more grip from my summer falkens."
Totally agree. Winter tyres are pointless in most cases in the UK unless you live in areas of the north frequently affected by heavy snow. Once its gone though I always tell people to swap back to their regular tyres. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not just budget tyres,last winter i used Michelin winter tyres , loads and loads of absolutely fucking useless tread. It was like i was wearing glass tyres (in the damp/wet). Much more grip from my summer falkens.
Totally agree. Winter tyres are pointless in most cases in the UK unless you live in areas of the north frequently affected by heavy snow. Once its gone though I always tell people to swap back to their regular tyres."
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"On the bike always use a top quality tyre, the car I usually go for tyres half way between the two. "
'Ditto', but on self-propelled two-wheels
I used Continentals in my good road bike
They gripped well enough to allow me to scrape pedals through corners (lean a bike over, that's a decent angle to be still pedalling at!)
However, the rear started to 'square-off' at about 2,000 miles
Now the (new) best bike is wearing Schwalbe, as is my work bike
I'll see how they get on - no punctures since fitting to work-bike (1,000 mile ago)
As for the car, the original Dunlop SP Sport covered 30,000+ mile on the front, before replacement
The rears, oddly less, as they 'castlelated' (alternate wear on blocks??!)
The replacement Uniroyals look like equalling that mileage, & oddly, the rears show no sign of same problem (no suspension camber adjustments made)
My last LandRover managed 70,000 miles on the set of BF Goodrich that were on it, in my ownership
I know the tread depth is a lot greater, but it's still a decent figure |
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