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Just PRETEND you're having a great time and get noticed !

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Entirely new to swinging, was invited to clubs few times and watched the sex take....dreadful cold sex, I just couldn't join in on the act, everytime my towel stayed round my waist, each time I know I have the biggest cock in the room, plus arguably more stamina but goodness me the word 'creepy' is an understatement for describing most of the males yet each and every time the females were giving the males Hi-fives and some even talked about adding each other as friend on this site.

I'm starting to reach a conclusion and truly believe men and women who standout and genuinely having good time on sites are people who already could but want to avoid spending on dinner dates, awkwardness and just want to go straight down to business, I mean professional escorts must hate this site lol.

However I believe vast majority of women posting lots of photos and verifications on here are pretending to be having great time but the only satisfaction is the feeling of being wanted and not the actual sex....Honestly after a good fuck your body should be calm, tingling and be in a fulfilled state but wanting to grab your phone and write a post well says a lot...

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've never seen one of these posts written about a club meet they've just that moment had :/

And I suggest if you can't imagine others enjoying sex beyond that which suits your particular framework for being good then you may have a bit of a lack of imagination and maybe just aren't suitable for clubs/fab if the above is how you feel

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By *aucy tiggerWoman over a year ago

Back where I belong

"Entirely new to swinging, was invited to clubs few times and watched the sex take....dreadful cold sex, I just couldn't join in on the act, everytime my towel stayed round my waist, each time I know I have the biggest cock in the room, plus arguably more stamina but goodness me the word 'creepy' is an understatement for describing most of the males yet each and every time the females were giving the males Hi-fives and some even talked about adding each other as friend on this site.

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

How do you know it was cold sex? Did you ask? And how do you know woman are pretending?

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and judging people without knowing the facts.

If you have such a low opinion of the people in the clubs and on here, why stay? As you say you have a lot to learn.

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By *indandfireCouple over a year ago

ashbourne

We visit clubs a lot and play with couples groups and also groups of men. Is the sex always great? Does my partner always leave spent or me tingling? No. Sometimes we have an amazing encounter where we both have a great time. More often than not one of us is left feeling 'was that it' or having been pushed out of the fun.

We watch others and can see that although some are clearly having a great time there are bored fakers and just plain bored people there too.

But then there are as many different reasons for attending the club as there are people there so we don't judge we just try and find the encounter to make both our toes curl and enjoy each other if it doesn't happen.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

In answer to your question: yes. You say you're entirely new to swinging and have been on Fab for 4 weeks. That's not a long time to make a considered decision.

For some reason, I'm reminded of Toad of Toad Hall 'harrumphing' .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've not been to club but if it's really leaving you cold then I suggest it's not for you.

If people really are going through the motions and not enjoying it then I don't really see the point - I guess the more you do it the more 'routine' it becomes and if it's not fun why do people bother going?

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By *lik and PaulCouple over a year ago

Flagrante

I think, OP, where you might be getting it wrong is that you say you have the biggest cock, which not everyone wants, and arguably more stamina but the difference is the other guys are getting involved and people are having fun....and swinging is about having fun. If I want mind blowing sex I can stay home and have that.....the club is for variety, fun and relaxation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree with a fair bit of what you've written there OP.

It would seem some people try too hard for recognition.

But there again some people make no effort at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good luck on here, you're gonna need it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't update my status the second it's over if at all.

Cold sex? I've had more of that with my husband because he felt he had to after a 6 - 12 month gap. I've never felt that way with meets. I don't go to clubs though as I know I probably would...That's just me.

Wanted to feel wanted?

Yes well that's just human nature. A a mentioned in my marriage there isnt much sex and affection in that way I felt ugly, fat, unwanted and unattractive.. .I dont anymore.

I find the whole experience liberating. The only way it could get better is if my husband relented to join me xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

I think maybe you have alot to learn about people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We've been on here for 4 weeks and had our first decent meet recently with another couple.

Afterwards we were exactly as the OP describes, "calm, tingling and in a fulfilled state". It was amazing and has led to a reinvigoration of our sex lives outside of swinging.

There was nothing cold about it and I think over 2 hours of playing with suggested that we were all well into it. I seem to remember a good 15 minutes of everyone on the bed just holding and touching. It's hard to be precise, I was in that warm and fizzy state that comes after good sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't go to clubs with the intention of sex, if it happens great, if not so be it. Same on here, if I chat with someone doesn't mean I will sleep with them just for the sake of having sex. I have to have that energy there, that want to have it, and haven't been disappointed yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, I think I understand what you are trying to say, but I don't agree with it. I don't think clubs are the right venue for everyone, and perhaps you are one of these people?

We enjoy clubs. We don't always play when we go, in fact we play less often than we don't play. We haven't found the times we do play to be cold. If anything some of the private meets we have head have been more cold - either because the mood wasn't right or because we didn't click with the other person/people.

But I think you need to remember that how you feel isn't necessarily how others are feeling. You don't much like the experience, that doesn't mean all the women are faking enjoyment because they want to lap up the interest and attention of others. It means they enjoy something different to what you do.

I hope you have a better time in the future. Enjoy.

-Courtney

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By *aveandkate35Couple over a year ago

telford

"Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

I think maybe you have alot to learn about people."

beat me to it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think, OP, where you might be getting it wrong is that you say you have the biggest cock, which not everyone wants, and arguably more stamina but the difference is the other guys are getting involved and people are having fun....and swinging is about having fun. If I want mind blowing sex I can stay home and have that.....the club is for variety, fun and relaxation."

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By *harpDressed ManMan over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

OP, if you know what women are thinking, you're wasted on here here should go on the stage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i dont go to clubs i dont pre judge either

mayb if you wernt so vain Op then you would just enjoy aint that whats swinging is all about?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As often said in many different ways, just because you have a bigger cock it doesn't make you desirable.

I think the OP needs to think about what he wants and what swinging is all about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP I would stick with your sentiment that you're new to all this! Rather than making wild sweeping generalisations about other people.

You have absolutely no idea what other people are enjoying/not enjoying.

And if you arrogantly think having a massive cock and stamina is all you need on here.....then you're in for a big shock sunshine!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's where I am going wrong I need to pretend I'm having a good time to get noticed...Cheers Op..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Want to avoid spending money on dinner dates yet spend arguably more money on getting to a club, entrance fee and most probably a hotel

Good logic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Doesn't have to be club meets that are cold.Some one too one meets can be cold ,when I first joined before I deleted and rejoined .I met one men and it was the worst sex ever .He had lots of verifications.I left fab after that .If no kissing and straight to sex it will be cold .I hate that .Rather do without.Learn by my mistakes and block and move on .

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By *ack LondonMan over a year ago

London

Check yourself out OP, Maybe you aren't ready for this type of lifestyle? As for the biggest cock, how could anyone tell if you kept your towel firmly in place?

Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

if you were to see us in a club - acting all pally and high 5ing - it would be because we were with with good friends - that if we were lucky enough to find a room free would go into and have body tingling memorable sex with - you may also see us sat quietly just talking to each other or trying to break the ice with strangers -

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

Yep! Maybe you do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Follow up on my original post...

In a particular experience, excluding me it was 5 Males: 3 Females encounter,there was this white guy that impressed me, only about 5"7 doing his thing, well equipped and delivered exceptionally, I almost wanted to ask for his number so we could be partners in crime lol, seconds later another guy got in looking very unsure, fingered for minutes each time the ladies "scratched" their heads but groaning at the same time, eventually pounded extremely slow with dick was almost half size of the 5"7 guy and finished very shortly....similar stories for the 4 other males. At one point the 5"7 guy looked at me exhausted, as if to say HELP I'm the only one doing all the work here....truthfully he was and the females couldn't get enough of him. Astonishingly the females made EXACT groaning noise/erotic sound for each of the 5 guys and exactly same complements to all the guys...now you can fake all the groaning in the world but you can't fake body language...the 4 other guys are probably getting what they wanted but as for ladies ?

I've had 4 visits to 2 different clubs yet similar scenario, different people, different area...

Again I'm not here judging the men, from experience I know big cock or rough sex is NOT every woman's cup of tea. My debate or question marks are for the majority of most Ladies on here or in clubs faking it and actively pretending they're having a good time.....?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Life is too short to fake it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Follow up on my original post...

I've had 4 visits to 2 different clubs yet similar scenario, different people, different area...

You seem to think that skin colour, height, and penis size make a real difference to how much women enjoy sex.

Have you ever considered that those women might be enjoying something *other* than those things?

Also - I moan the same way with all the people I sleep with. It's my vocal chords, they always make similar noises. Perhaps I should be making an effort to make different moans for different people? Maybe I should record moans into notetaking software so that I can refresh myself before I sleep with someone again and remember the exact type of moan that I made for them.

Perhaps though, you should stop concerning yourself with how much other people are enjoying themselves and concentrate on your own enjoyment. Be selfish here. And if you don't enjoy it - don't go?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Follow up on my original post...

I've had 4 visits to 2 different clubs yet similar scenario, different people, different area...

You seem to think size is everything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do you define a good time. I'm not going to have mind blowing earth moving sex with a meet. However it May well be good fun and a laugh...

I am predominantly a greedy girl when I play with single guys... It's not cold for me but hugely fun and satisfying but not in a sexual way. That's what sex with my partner is for.

As to your rather judgy comments about the guys size and stamina... Size isn't a factor as long as it's hard and clean. As to a guy finishing quick... If I'm playing in a group and a guy takes ages I get bloody bored and will move on to someone else.

So thinking you don't understand all as yet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How do you define a good time. I'm not going to have mind blowing earth moving sex with a meet. However it May well be good fun and a laugh...

I am predominantly a greedy girl when I play with single guys... It's not cold for me but hugely fun and satisfying but not in a sexual way. That's what sex with my partner is for.

So thinking you don't understand all as yet. "

I agree, a guy just pumping away for ages does nothing for me either.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Follow up on my original post...

I've had 4 visits to 2 different clubs yet similar scenario, different people, different area...

Maybe you should have loosened up, relaxed and joined in?

Not sure your standing there with your negative energy, being judgemental added anything positive to the meet?

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"Help! I'm doing all the work here!"

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Where's Tina with those forum suicide insurance forms?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some men in clubs will be shit at sex. Some women in clubs will be faking it. But if they all didn't enjoy something about the whole club scene I don't really get why they would bother going so I'm not sure it's as pervasive as you're suggesting.

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By *ilk_TreMan over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

If I want to meet friends I can go down the local. Looking for sex? I have fbs for that. If I really want to do something kinky and outlandish, well escorts are always an option.

So why do I go to a swinging club? Because it's there.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Some men in clubs will be shit at sex. Some women in clubs will be faking it. But if they all didn't enjoy something about the whole club scene I don't really get why they would bother going so I'm not sure it's as pervasive as you're suggesting."

I agree with this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, just a question, but were you just standing there watching while all of this was going on? I just ask because if you were then I wonder what the people there were thinking about you. You have formed opinions and judgements of other based on nothing more than observations. I'm sure others do the same to you but don't think about your reasons for doing certain things.

For example, if you were just watching and never taking your towel off then someone watching could think "this guy just stood there and never took his towel off! He must have a small dick and couldn't get it up! Otherwise why wouldn't he join in?!?" Meanwhile, watching could just be your thing - but they wouldn't know that.

Some girls go to clubs because they want sex with many guys, like a greedy girls night or a gangbang. In these scenarios maybe the size and stamina of the guys isn't important, maybe what turns the woman on is the scenario itself.

My point is that you can't assume that you know what kind of sex a woman wants. If I want spine tingling sex I would just fuck Marc all the time. Clubs provide a different experience for me that I enjoy. Just have fun doing your thing and let others do theirs without unnecessary judgement.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The key words "MAJORITY OF LADIES pretending", read carefully....wanting sexual liberation is one thing but at what cost ? "pretending" ?

not bragging about my size...it was just my way of saying I didn't lack confidence....

My post is NOT for those who are experienced, established swingers or people who love a particular type sex for example, been whipped, bondage etc...It's to share experiences with those average people in the swinging scene, new or still discovering themselves and appreciate sex in it's simplicity....

All abuses are welcomed

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By *ilk_TreMan over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"OP, just a question, but were you just standing there watching while all of this was going on? I just ask because if you were then I wonder what the people there were thinking about you. You have formed opinions and judgements of other based on nothing more than observations. I'm sure others do the same to you but don't think about your reasons for doing certain things.

-Courtney"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The key words "MAJORITY OF LADIES pretending", read carefully....wanting sexual liberation is one thing but at what cost ? "pretending" ?

not bragging about my size...it was just my way of saying I didn't lack confidence....

All abuses are welcomed

Mate, you're clearly a fucking mindreader. You obviously know exactly what the women you were talking about were thinking.

Have you considered a career in the entertainment industry?

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By *ilk_TreMan over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"...not bragging about my size...it was just my way of saying I didn't lack confidence...."

Hate to break it to you, bro, but that statement does not exactly help your case...

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

I like how you slipped in the bit about your massive cock!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The key words "MAJORITY OF LADIES pretending", read carefully....wanting sexual liberation is one thing but at what cost ? "pretending" ?

not bragging about my size...it was just my way of saying I didn't lack confidence....

All abuses are welcomed

Didn't lack confidence but wouldn't take your towel off?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The key words "MAJORITY OF LADIES pretending", read carefully....wanting sexual liberation is one thing but at what cost ? "pretending" ?

not bragging about my size...it was just my way of saying I didn't lack confidence....

All abuses are welcomed

One thing from the posts that stood out is you seemed shocked that the ladies enjoyed The smaller guys as much as the larger ones. In group sex you get off as much on the situation as you do the physical.

For instance when we play with couples its normally the fact Mr is making the other lady orgasm that will get me really going. If in a group situation it could be just the whole thing.

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By *icky999Man over a year ago

warrington

*must try harder at shaging

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Pops in with a hostess trolley containing a FORUM INSURANCE claim form

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By *indandfireCouple over a year ago

ashbourne

Personally a "huge" cock pounding away fast for hours equals a good chance for me to mentally write a shopping list and plan next weeks work. I prefer an average cock with a good driver who knows how to vary the action and stimulate in different ways with their cock as well as their fingers, tongue, toys etc. Now that can go on for hours with dozens of orgasms and I don't think about tesco once!!!!

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

It must be really horrible going to a clun knowing you have the biggest cock there and are the best shag eva and not getting invited to play.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

clun=club

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

V here.

What I have learned after a few years hugely enjoying the club scene both on my own and with Adam is this. Without exception... Everyone (guy or woman) is getting something out of their experience and every one of those experiences and motivations is different. Whether it's social, emotional or physical. Whether needs are met, exceeded or disappointed one thing stands.... You can never judge or assume you know what, how or why.

If you see me sitting alone nursing a glass of wine.. What do you assume you know about me? I'm shy? Or perhaps I've not pulled or perhaps I'm not enjoying myself and shouldn't go to a club??? But my reason is probably because I am having a ball enjoying the constant attempts of people to get me to make eye contact with them and I already have my evenings entertainment lined up.

When you watch men and woman fuck, do it (like me) because you find it erotic and decadent and hot! Not because you feel you have insight into their thoughts and feelings. Because you will never be able to do that.

Phew..... Does someone want this soapbox back?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd rather sit in the jacuzzi than sit in judgement.

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By *apillonNoirWoman over a year ago

There...

"V here.

Phew..... Does someone want this soapbox back?

Room for a little one on that soapbox? Eloquently and beautifully put. My thoughts exactly. At a club I have a voice - I can say yes, no, stop, harder, faster, slower.... I also reserve the right to get up and walk away if I'm not having fun. Stop it OP. Just stop it. Try talking to folk rather than judging.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A brave post to put here to ..one assumes the converted who would very much disagree with you. I m sure people go to clubs and have a good time tho I'm not sure its for me. Equally I suspect some of your sentiments are true...as in any "community" with a particular interest...there are some with big egos here. And the write up...the veri...the proof seems more important than the act itself. We all have crutchs to help up us in life.. Drink...smoking...the gym...and for some its sex...some people having lots of sex on here are probably enjoying it...some are having lots of sex but probably covering up that there life is missing something...be that friendship...love...etc. Only the person themselves will know that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A brave post to put here to ..one assumes the converted who would very much disagree with you. I m sure people go to clubs and have a good time tho I'm not sure its for me. Equally I suspect some of your sentiments are true...as in any "community" with a particular interest...there are some with big egos here. And the write up...the veri...the proof seems more important than the act itself. We all have crutchs to help up us in life.. Drink...smoking...the gym...and for some its sex...some people having lots of sex on here are probably enjoying it...some are having lots of sex but probably covering up that there life is missing something...be that friendship...love...etc. Only the person themselves will know that."

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By *andbCouple over a year ago

Wakefield

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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So the women you saw couldn't say no?

I sincerely hope you reported the rape

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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So the women you saw couldn't say no?

I sincerely hope you reported the rape "

Changed your mind and removed the comment?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 10/12/15 12:09:45]

So the women you saw couldn't say no?

I sincerely hope you reported the rape "

That's what my thought was.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

My emphasis is NOT the size of Dick...

It's simply about there were ladies lying in submission, they were groaning and making noises for every single guy but their body react differently with one particular guy who I described previously as 5"7....scratching your head, looking round the walls, as if you can't wait for it finish is not a sign of satisfaction no matter how much noise you're make groaning....if you think it is then you certainly believe everything you watch on porn videos !

I am not saying I know everything a woman want nor am I deluded to think I am every woman's cup of tea, we've all had moments when we've under performed or the sex is not just going well for whatever reason and simply end it in a dignified manner...

I personally don't take offence when a lady say to my face "you cool and hot but I dont fuck BLACK or asian guys, I'll rather appreciate that than a lady fuck me against their wish or desire ! For some men its sickening to find out a woman only allowed you to fuck her because she feel compelled to (be it swinging session) and she could not say "NO" !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For some men its sickening to find out a woman only allowed you to fuck her because she feel compelled to (be it swinging session) and she could not say "NO" !"

These are very serious allegations.

I hope that you reported these rapes to the club, if the women were forced into a position where they didn't feel they could say no.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP you're obviously a confident guy. You're very confident that your physical attributes and skills are in demand. The problem seems to be that some ladies haven't worked out how much better they would be with you. That must be very frustrating?

You are also very confident in your powers of understanding. You can assess a situation and accurately predict the content of other people's minds. It must be quite frightening being that perceptive and seeing to the core of people with a few glances. Probably a heavy burden having that superpower?

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"My emphasis is NOT the size of Dick...

On the point about women and men funny enough making their own consensual choices about whom they play with and using their right to say NO you are of course right and just so your aware on this site pretty much everyone will say the same..

Your perception about the women and their enjoyment is yours, unless you at the time checked with the women it's only your opinion and guess what?

You could be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I go to a club and the most exciting thing for me isn't usually the sex it's everything else that I experience whilst I'm there. .chatting, flirting and watching. ..I only ever have sex with people I want to have sex with and it's fun! !...it's usually not mind blowing sex but that doesn't mean I'm faking the enjoyment of it x

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By *iSTARessWoman over a year ago

London

OP, you do have a point.

I've seen some horribly awkward, boring, passion free, joyless sex in clubs. I think "why bother?" but you know what, if I'm not involved in a scene, it's none of my business. And it's none of yours.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type. "

To be fair not only was he 5'7, he didn't have as big a cock or the stamina either. That guy was clearly a total loser!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type.

To be fair not only was he 5'7, he didn't have as big a cock or the stamina either. That guy was clearly a total loser! "

Clearly

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By *an_WoodMan over a year ago

Stafford

Is this a swinger code giving high fives. That explains alot

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP.... you've certainly touched close to the nerve for a few on here...

My advice is if you want to stay know what you want and search for it. It's a hard place for those who are not naturally selfish. If you're more into giving pleasure then step back and be patient and don't worry about brutally using the block button. There's a few hidden diamonds on here.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type.

To be fair not only was he 5'7, he didn't have as big a cock or the stamina either. That guy was clearly a total loser! "

But I wasn't there although it's definitely my description! Personally I think ladies appreciate me just banging away; that way they can plan their shopping while I do what I want to!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP you're obviously a confident guy. You're very confident that your physical attributes and skills are in demand. The problem seems to be that some ladies haven't worked out how much better they would be with you. That must be very frustrating?

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

Bx"

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Perhaps turn done the patronising chatter as well...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type.

To be fair not only was he 5'7, he didn't have as big a cock or the stamina either. That guy was clearly a total loser!

But I wasn't there although it's definitely my description! Personally I think ladies appreciate me just banging away; that way they can plan their shopping while I do what I want to!"

Well, it is important to make sure that the shopping is well planned in advance. It's not like women enjoy sex, so this seems like a perfect solution to the problem of pleasing your man AND being useful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

I didn't think she was offering you her skinny sexy ass

She was offering an opinion on a public forum.

Anyway, could you please let me know why these women/men cannot say NO? I have never found myself in this situation in a club and it truly worries me that you have.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Perhaps turn done the patronising chatter as well..."

Perhaps you hate seeing others boldly express themselves xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry, I meant skinny sexy ass insults.

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Pops in with a hostess trolley containing a FORUM INSURANCE claim form

About time Tina, there's a bloke digging his own grave here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Perhaps turn done the patronising chatter as well...

Perhaps you hate seeing others boldly express themselves xx"

No, not at all. I LOVE people boldly expressing themselves.

I *hate* people being patronising towards women, I hate people suggesting that women are being sexually assaulted in clubs because you don't think they're enjoying it, and I hate people that think blokes aren't as good at sex if aren't a massive cock.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry but you lost me at only 5'7. Only? Suggests judgement maybe your just a judgemental type and clubs aren't for you?

Apologies if that sounds harsh but I've have had a day of moaning and my patience is non existent. I'm a do it if you like it. If you don't then don't do it but don't moan about it type.

To be fair not only was he 5'7, he didn't have as big a cock or the stamina either. That guy was clearly a total loser!

But I wasn't there although it's definitely my description! Personally I think ladies appreciate me just banging away; that way they can plan their shopping while I do what I want to!

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By *ark CharmerMan over a year ago

Horsham

Brave man and I guess you liking the attention.

You do have time on your hands, I get bored watching people have sex after a few seconds so I wont be paying so much attention watching their heights, dick size etc

Have you thought that the excitement for the woman/women could be having sex with someone in public and being watched? It might have nothing to do with height, colour or dick size

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP it doesn't really sound like clubs are for you. There's no shame in that, they're not for me either. But people tend to get a little bit peeved when you tell them what their motivations are for doing something or behaving a certain way. I'm sure there will be women who don't enjoy sex in clubs who are maybe being pressured into it by a partner. It seems unlikely that everyone is having the amazing most sexy time of their lives at all times.

But you're taking that and saying it must be the case for everyone which it clearly isn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Well I'm a fatty and I agree with the comments they made to you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Brave man and I guess you liking the attention.

You do have time on your hands, I get bored watching people have sex after a few seconds so I wont be paying so much attention watching their heights, dick size etc

Have you thought that the excitement for the woman/women could be having sex with someone in public and being watched? It might have nothing to do with height, colour or dick size

Below was previous post with similar point you made. Yes, I do the time at for today. Thank you

"My emphasis is NOT the size of Dick...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The op has made his personal feeling known on this thread . He has suggested he may not understand swinging , and this much is certainly true .

Sabrinas pleasure comes from me being happy with what she is doing . When we frequented clubs on a regular basis , she would often ask me what I wanted to see . The sex would be real , she loves the passionate kissing , the stroking , the reality , the whole thing really .

But , there would be times I would ask her if a bukkake or a gang bang would be something she would like . And this can be a totally different visual experience . It may seem cold , or porn film style . But , it's just as pleasurable for me to watch , and for Sabrina to engage in .

So we are happy to accept the op does need to learn a bit more about the swinging lifestyle . And I hope this helps him .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The op has made his personal feeling known on this thread . He has suggested he may not understand swinging , and this much is certainly true .

So we are happy to accept the op does need to learn a bit more about the swinging lifestyle . And I hope this helps him ."

That makes all the perfect sense, doing things purposefully and I'm sure you look out to protect her as well....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney"

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs."

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside "

And more to the point - he didn't do anything about it. Just gossiped about it later on the forums.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside

And more to the point - he didn't do anything about it. Just gossiped about it later on the forums."

It's pretty disconcerting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside "

If the husband and wife agree to a scenario and play it out , one would presume they have thought it through .

I certainly watch out for Sabrina in group scenarios , and when she wants to be a greedy girl , she knows who she will and who she won't fuck and suck .

It may look like she has no say in it , but rest assured she does .

I believe the op has eluded to a scenario which simply wasn't the case . Merely his interpretation of what he saw . There's a big difference guys ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside

If the husband and wife agree to a scenario and play it out , one would presume they have thought it through .

I certainly watch out for Sabrina in group scenarios , and when she wants to be a greedy girl , she knows who she will and who she won't fuck and suck .

It may look like she has no say in it , but rest assured she does .

I believe the op has eluded to a scenario which simply wasn't the case . Merely his interpretation of what he saw . There's a big difference guys ....

But that's exactly the point. The OP is making sweeping generalizations and then when he is questioned about it he has continuously said that the woman could not say no. If that is the case, then we have bigger issues here.

If it is not the case, then the entire thread is based off of conjecture and misinterpretation by the OP.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside

If the husband and wife agree to a scenario and play it out , one would presume they have thought it through .

I certainly watch out for Sabrina in group scenarios , and when she wants to be a greedy girl , she knows who she will and who she won't fuck and suck .

It may look like she has no say in it , but rest assured she does .

I believe the op has eluded to a scenario which simply wasn't the case . Merely his interpretation of what he saw . There's a big difference guys ....

If it is not the case, then the entire thread is based off of conjecture and misinterpretation by the OP.

-Courtney"

And that's the point I am making Courtney , the entire thread is based on a naive misinterpretation by the op . He is relatively new to the scene and doesn't understand the lifestyle .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

I agree. It's concerning if the OP is witnessing women who are being forced into having sex at swingers clubs.

Me too....

He's basically said he was casually watching a rape and it's been lightly brushed aside

If the husband and wife agree to a scenario and play it out , one would presume they have thought it through .

I certainly watch out for Sabrina in group scenarios , and when she wants to be a greedy girl , she knows who she will and who she won't fuck and suck .

It may look like she has no say in it , but rest assured she does .

I believe the op has eluded to a scenario which simply wasn't the case . Merely his interpretation of what he saw . There's a big difference guys ....

If it is not the case, then the entire thread is based off of conjecture and misinterpretation by the OP.

-Courtney

And that's the point I am making Courtney , the entire thread is based on a naive misinterpretation by the op . He is relatively new to the scene and doesn't understand the lifestyle .

Ah! I see. Yes. Sorry, I thought you meant something else

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Oh I'm bad at some stuff but reading and writing aren't amongst them.

For instance I can read the word 'couple'. Mrs B seldom comes on the forum and my ass is far from skinny. Buff, rock hard or gorgeously sexy, I've been told but never skinny.

As for insulting, I challenged your attitudes and behaviours albeit with a heavy dose of sarcasm. I challenged things that you held to be fact and used a bit of irony to do it. I did not insult or attack you personally. You however clearly did attempt to insult my wife (who it has been qualified was not offering you her ass, skinny or otherwise). I say attempt as I'm guessing she'll be ok with it. No amount of 'one loving' detracts from the fact that you just got plain nasty. Again, probably not a trait anyone would welcome in a club.

You clearly have no idea of the myriad of things that turn people on. Exhibitionism, voyourism, group sex, submission, sensory deprivation, role play to name but a few. You'll notice that many of them don't depend on cock size or stamina. But, those two things will be important to some as well. Maybe you just need to stick to the stuff you're good at or learn to broaden your mind?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

I think maybe you have alot to learn about people."

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney"

Good question.

Politeness, the need not to hurt others feeling and endure it, pretend everything is fabulous since you've sacrificed time, efforts and money to be in the club.....It's a question for all swingers to answer, hence I started the forum ?

With couples in the scene I believe you're always lucky been able to be there to protect your partner, therefore you probably don't see what singles people endure, instead you're taking turns to throw insults....some other think I'm brave, some have shed light on things from their perspective and some think I have simply destroyed all chances of getting laid on here...lol

Maybe my post is more appropriate for the average singles especially ladies or newbies !

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By *icky999Man over a year ago

warrington

if you could stop looking like a big unhappy pile of stressed sausages on a bed...

... that would be great

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney

Good question.

Maybe my post is more appropriate for the average singles especially ladies or newbies !

There are some women who don't like to say no, I've seen their posts in the forum admitting that they've has sex with men they didn't find attractive for that reason. I find that extremely sad. I don't believe by any stretch of the imagination that applies to all or even a significant minority of women. There are also women who do this for their partner and some because any sex makes them feel loved but I think your mistake is to assume that having sex a certain way means that women feel like this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney

Good question.

Maybe my post is more appropriate for the average singles especially ladies or newbies !

I don't think I threw any insults .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

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By *lacksausageMan over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

I have been to many a club and I can say, hand on heart, that in the thick of action women CANNOT account for whose sausage they are being impaled by. It is just not physically/ logistically possible.

I have witnessed women being fucked senseless by white guys even though they'd sworn to only fuck black cock. I have fucked women whom I had never said a word to, either before or after the deed.

Group play does in fact have some funny dynamics. Things happen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, I can't really find any insults levelled at you. Lots of people challenged your views but no ones said anything derogatory about you. You, on the other hand?

I think you've also forgot your original post? You didn't suggest the women couldn't say no. You insinuated that they say 'yes' because they are a bit sad and needy? I'm paraphrasing of course but i think that's the flavour of it. The heading of the thread also suggests these people you refer to have a motivation, not that they are compelled by others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Confidence can be a very positive attribute. It can also be very misplaced. Perhaps dial up the humility and dial down the searing insight, based on this thread?

I have superpowers to know some people cannot read threads, its there for a reason

or maybe you simply enjoy been in the same room with a woman/man that cannot say NO !

With my job and my social life trust me darling, I don't lack pussy....if you've read my profile you would have realised I'm here on for something different "Matured BBW

" so your skinny sexy ass

insults doesn't matter !

One love x

Oh I'm bad at some stuff but reading and writing aren't amongst them.

For instance I can read the word 'couple'. Mrs B seldom comes on the forum and my ass is far from skinny. Buff, rock hard or gorgeously sexy, I've been told but never skinny.

Bx"

Like her read threads before voicing your opinion, my emphasis is on Ladies pretending everything is fabulous and in some cases inability to say NO or Stop....NOT dick sizes or been rough !

Again alot of women agree with me silently (with winks) don't expect most women to boldly and publicly agree to such experience. Single guys who may also find the attitude of other men creepy in the club are keeping silence for the fear of been abused....

So my post most be insightful to singles people...maybe not to couples who are able to protect each other !

NOTE: The very little I see on your profile wall, I genuinely think she looks good....Again you put emphasis on "skinny ass" I did put "sexy" and a "smile"....sorry I'll learn to be more polite

Didn't start the post to exchange abuses...

One Love !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney"

Some people only play/ fuck other people to try and keep their partner happy. Their heart isn't really in it. Assuming it means those types of situations.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories."

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if you could stop looking like a big unhappy pile of stressed sausages on a bed...

... that would be great

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman over a year ago

kinky land

Many women, single or not, have said that in hindsight they wish they'd; got up and left, said no, not gone etc. I've heard it first hand, & read it time and time again on here.

Also ' taking one for the team ' comes up loads. I actually understand what the op is saying and I've been stood in clubs where it seems this is happening. It's not as rare as the comments on here would suggest.

An open room in a club is also a very different experience to a private room encounter.

Maybe the GB scene is not for the op, it certainly isn't for me either.

Welcome to the forums op

Welcome to fabs op

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have been to many a club and I can say, hand on heart, that in the thick of action women CANNOT account for whose sausage they are being impaled by. It is just not physically/ logistically possible.

I have witnessed women being fucked senseless by white guys even though they'd sworn to only fuck black cock. I have fucked women whom I had never said a word to, either before or after the deed.

Group play does in fact have some funny dynamics. Things happen.

Are you 100% certain,every time,that the women are enjoying themselves and in control?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

Be a great birthday present fornyou

xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

Ooooooooooooo yea, and whisper what a dirty slut you are in your ear........love it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney

Good question.

Maybe my post is more appropriate for the average singles especially ladies or newbies !

I don't 'endure' anything. If I was 'enduring' it rather than enjoying it as a single person, I simply wouldn't go.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm still waiting to hear why people can't say NO in a club?

I feel like the question has been asked by many and systematically ignored. It raises troubling issues worth talking about if true.

-Courtney

OP, do you realize I'm asking you this question? Why did you give it a thumbs up? I'm so confused.

-Courtney

Good question.

Maybe my post is more appropriate for the average singles especially ladies or newbies !

OP, thank you for clarifying. Your Opening Post and your subsequent comments were not quite as mitigated as this response.

I understand what you mean, but I think that to assume that a "vast majority" of women act in the ways you describe is to do a disservice to the women (whether in a couple or single) who engage on this site and in clubs. Does it happen? Yes, I have no doubt that it does. Is it as often as you have insinuated? No, I don't believe it is.

It is an interesting conversation to have - whether women feel pressured to act in certain ways because of circumstances/partners/etc, but I don't think that your OP was really the most productive way of beginning this discussion. By suggesting that women just play in clubs and post pictures here simply because they want attention and have to put up with men who have small cocks and little stamina has put a few people's backs up when I think it could have been said in a better way.

I hope the discussion goes better for you now that you have clarified.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

A lot have slated my comment on Dick sizes, emphasis should be on the "active swingers expecially most single Ladies pretending, faking it and actively projecting all swinging experiences are fabulous and priceless" the verify me nicely and I will verify you in return culture !

Again alot of women agree with me silently (with winks) don't expect most women to boldly and publicly agree to experiences I have previously outlined. Single guys who may also find the attitude of others creepy in the club or snobby are keeping silence for the fear of been abused....

My post most be more insightful to the singles person or newbies...maybe no so much to couples who are able to share thoughts and protect each other when playing !

Those who calling me names (unhappy big dick)....lol are like the "Swinging Knights" who must protect the art/act of swinging at all cost the, good and the ugly side...I'm here now exploring swinging anyway as a change of scene so deal with it lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting post, for a change .

But who are One Love?

I've heard of One Dimension, but so hard to keep up

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A lot have slated my comment on Dick sizes, emphasis should be on the "active swingers expecially most single Ladies pretending, faking it and actively projecting all swinging experiences are fabulous and priceless" the verify me nicely and I will verify you in return culture !

My post most be more insightful to the singles person or newbies...maybe no so much to couples who are able to share thoughts and protect each other when playing !

How do you know women are agreeing with you if they're only winking at you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adam here. There is a difference between confidence and arrogance You're now coming across as very much the later!

Lets face it there are 100s of other guys on this site that may have a big cock. You are no different, just one of the masses. Get used to it.

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By *lacksausageMan over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

My post most be more insightful to the singles person or newbies...maybe no so much to couples who are able to share thoughts and protect each other when playing !

How do you know women are agreeing with you if they're only winking at you?

Might be they just want to fuck you, mate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

V back again. If truth be told I am as vehemently against the "Swinging Knights" as you appear to be.

But you expouse an opinion which is almost as judgemental and insular as those who seek to uphold some swinging lifestyle rules that really are just there to be broken.

The upshot of it all is... People will do as they choose, and it's not always what we would choose.

And that's ok.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"V back again. If truth be told I am as vehemently against the "Swinging Knights" as you appear to be.

But you expouse an opinion which is almost as judgemental and insular as those who seek to uphold some swinging lifestyle rules that really are just there to be broken.

The upshot of it all is... People will do as they choose, and it's not always what we would choose.

And that's ok.

There are actually classy people here that can help make sense of how things are without insults....a lot of people on here would need a dictionary for your first paragraph alone....

Thank you

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Sometimes a thread can do one more harm than good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"V back again. If truth be told I am as vehemently against the "Swinging Knights" as you appear to be.

But you expouse an opinion which is almost as judgemental and insular as those who seek to uphold some swinging lifestyle rules that really are just there to be broken.

The upshot of it all is... People will do as they choose, and it's not always what we would choose.

And that's ok.

There are actually classy people here that can help make sense of how things are without insults....a lot of people on here would need a dictionary for your first paragraph alone....

Thank you

OP, do you not see that you are complaining of people insulting you while doing nothing but insulting people yourself? If you don't like the insults, then rise above.

I wrote that without my dictionary to hand.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"V back again. If truth be told I am as vehemently against the "Swinging Knights" as you appear to be.

But you expouse an opinion which is almost as judgemental and insular as those who seek to uphold some swinging lifestyle rules that really are just there to be broken.

The upshot of it all is... People will do as they choose, and it's not always what we would choose.

And that's ok.

There are actually classy people here that can help make sense of how things are without insults....a lot of people on here would need a dictionary for your first paragraph alone....

Thank you

OP, do you not see that you are complaining of people insulting you while doing nothing but insulting people yourself? If you don't like the insults, then rise above.

I wrote that without my dictionary to hand.

-Courtney

I called people insulting me "'Swinging Knights' Protectors of the art/act of swinging at all cost, the good and the ugly side....

I fail to see that as a complaint !"

I'm referring to you saying that people on here would need a dictionary to understand what the other person wrote.

On another occasion in the thread you said something that was perceived by many as being insulting, although you later explained that you didn't mean it to be.

If you are saying these things, and you don't mean them to be insulting, then why not take an extra minute before posting to read what you are posting and make sure that it isn't going to be perceived as insulting, as words on a screen often can be.

People react to the poster when writing their replies. So if you are getting insults from people, maybe (though not always) they are reacting to your tone?

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if you could stop looking like a big unhappy pile of stressed sausages on a bed...

... that would be great

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What's the female equivalent of White Knights, because there's a few on this thread?

OP, perhaps some of the more experienced swingers and couples don't go to the kind of Gang Bang or Greedy Girl nights that you appear to be describing (from a fairly narrow viewpoint). I can quite imagine that SOME of those scenes can be quite unnerving, although having never been it's difficult to say. Not all "swinging" is the same however, and I'm afraid you have shown little understanding of that, and appeared to judge a fun activity which many people enjoy immensely - perhaps you need to choose your nights better.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"V back again. If truth be told I am as vehemently against the "Swinging Knights" as you appear to be.

But you expouse an opinion which is almost as judgemental and insular as those who seek to uphold some swinging lifestyle rules that really are just there to be broken.

The upshot of it all is... People will do as they choose, and it's not always what we would choose.

And that's ok.

There are actually classy people here that can help make sense of how things are without insults....a lot of people on here would need a dictionary for your first paragraph alone....

Thank you

OP, do you not see that you are complaining of people insulting you while doing nothing but insulting people yourself? If you don't like the insults, then rise above.

I wrote that without my dictionary to hand.

-Courtney"

I called people insulting me "'Swinging Knights' Protectors of the art/act of swinging at all cost, the good and the ugly side....

I fail to see that as a complaint !

Been inquisitive about something I believe obstruct my understanding should not be deemed an insult.....I am still trying to understand why "fish and chips" is the favourite food of a nation that conquered the world, so please don't further complicate matters....lol

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By *sianmale89Man over a year ago

Stockport

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

you have a point I suppose, I don't think myself I would go to a club as that would not ideally be for me/out of my comfort zone...

unless of course it was just a social night etc but I suppose clubs have the room's for the orgy/hook up stuff least that's what I hear..

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By *lighty1Woman over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now

"However I believe vast majority of women posting lots of photos and verifications on here are pretending to be having great time but the only satisfaction is the feeling of being wanted and not the actual sex....

I have come to this thread late, and read your later updates, but it seems to come down to this. You think single women only attend clubs to get praise, and merely endure the sex as the price they have to pay for the praise????

I can assure you that I would never have sex with someone I found unattractive - and the vast majority of swinging males appreciate this, meaning that I don't really need the club staff to prevent me from being raped (although I am glad they are there, just in case). And since a club visit costs me £100+ (including hotel stay), there is no way that I am going just for 'praise', I am going hoping to find someone I want to have sex with.

I really do think you have a lot to learn about swinging.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think op is just jealous he didn't get a piece of the action!!!!!!! And is now blaming everyone else. Typical projection of your issues onto others.

Chill out and have fun, too many serious people on the scene.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I always find it odd when people who don't enjoy clubs go to clubs. You can spot them a mile away, sat at the bar nursing a drink, not talking to anyone, or stood in the corner of a room, watching with no enjoyment. I think to myself 'you've paid a buttload to get in tonight and yet here you are, clearly hating every minute'.

Join in. Get chatting. There are women who go to be seen, and to be the centre of attention, but the majority go for a good time. Its an excellent way to spend an evening, even if I don't get my kit off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Many women, single or not, have said that in hindsight they wish they'd; got up and left, said no, not gone etc. I've heard it first hand, & read it time and time again on here.

An open room in a club is also a very different experience to a private room encounter.

Maybe the GB scene is not for the op, it certainly isn't for me either.

Welcome to the forums op

Welcome to fabs op "

Seen this a few times myself. One taking it for the team; swinging because their partner enjoys it; wishing they'd stopped it as it was too rough; they didn't like it as he/she was d*unk ..... lots of reasons given for not totally being into the whole scene and not one of them had been forced into the club.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I always find it odd when people who don't enjoy clubs go to clubs. You can spot them a mile away, sat at the bar nursing a drink, not talking to anyone, or stood in the corner of a room, watching with no enjoyment. I think to myself 'you've paid a buttload to get in tonight and yet here you are, clearly hating every minute'.

Well said this woman......

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

I am having a great time and I don't give a shit what the rest of you think.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I am having a great time and I don't give a shit what the rest of you think.

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think if you saw me in a club and I was on my own you'd think I wasn't enjoying myself because I don't sit there with an inane grin on my face and probably come across as a really miserable but I'm not.

I like to just observe at times. Take time out, chill, do nothing. I may watch, but I don't stand there grinning or with my tongue hanging out so please don't think all those who are on their own at some point are not enjoying themselves.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"so please don't think all those who are on their own at some point are not enjoying themselves."

Oh, I sit on my own from time to time, but not all night, and I am sure you chat to others now and then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so please don't think all those who are on their own at some point are not enjoying themselves.

Oh, I sit on my own from time to time, but not all night, and I am sure you chat to others now and then."

Chat? Converse? With such deviants?!

Definitely not

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By *illyjohnyCouple over a year ago

brighton

That's a big fucking hole the op has dug is there a forum rescue team to get him out of it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Although I agree with some points by the OP everyone goes for all sorts of reasons, some not immediately obvious.

I like to meet women and CPLs there as it's safe, not expensive and sometimes socialise without playing at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I personally enjoy Adult clubs in most cases than Nightclubs...Hot tub is priceless...It's liberating knowing you can walk round butt-naked....more chilled out and relaxed chat with gents and ladies with no sexual pressure (I avoid creeps who uninvitingly follow females round the club though)....if it's on it's on, if not you have a laugh together !

Must be said some people, especially couples, have formed clicks in the club, when solo males walk the into the communal room just give it 2-3 minutes they'll will disperse as a group, all effort to strike conversation get one word answer,....same parttern everytime, at first I taught it was personal until I see it happen to other smart good looking guys who also made similar efforts, insecurities or rudeness ?....I guess that's the price you pay rolling solo...

I have witnessed people forming partnership (male and female) in my presence solely to avoid been snubbed....you most have come across such profiles here anyway...would you call that been yourself ? the word "pretend" strike my mind again !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You've been,you didn't like,you don't have a go again. What you think may or may not have happened is irrelevant as you don't want you be a part of it. It's also no concern of yours what anyone else is doing,unless it's with you. If you think someone is in real trouble,have a word with them in offer help.

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By *ndian jayMan over a year ago

luton

8 agree

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By *ndian jayMan over a year ago

luton

Pure creepyif you want to forfill is a club a place its like seening people in a zoo

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You've been,you didn't like,you don't have a go again. What you think may or may not have happened is irrelevant as you don't want you be a part of it. It's also no concern of yours what anyone else is doing,unless it's with you. If you think someone is in real trouble,have a word with them in offer help. "

I guess you didn't read threads properly....or you just feel the need to have a quick final word of wisdom ? lol

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

OP, was this all just observation or did you interact with people, chat to them and find out how their evening was going? Was it just the non-verbal communication with Mr 5'7" where that exchange of looks told you so much?

I will fake moan at times by way of encouragement. It is much harder (

) for men to fake it - the pressure to get it up, keep it up and 'perform' in front of others must be difficult at times. If I have encouraged them to play with me in a club it seems a bit churlish to push them away without at least giving them a chance to get something out of the encounter.

If I'm not enjoying it after giving that chance then I will move them on their way.

I've seen more men than women appear to be having a less than enjoyable time. Joining in a group situation with other men when what they really want is a one on one encounter. Perhaps leaving feeling it was cold and soulless and left them feeling a bit dirty and used.

I go to clubs because I like to watch and sometimes I enjoy being watched. I have spent as much time in clubs chatting as shagging. I even enjoy the dancing.

I'm not meeting at the moment or going to clubs because it doesn't suit me right now. Perhaps consider going when it feels like the thing you really want to do?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am having a great time and I don't give a shit what the rest of you think.

Same here.....going to another tomorrow night, can't bloody wait....bring on the fun.

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

I think its about time I did something predictable:

"There's a club if you'd like to go,

You could meet somebody, who really loves you,

But you go and you stand on your own,

And you leave on your own,

And you go home,

And you cry and you want to die...."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess you didn't read threads properly....or you just feel the need to have a quick final word of wisdom ? lol"

I read your comments. I got the impression it wasn't your cup of tea and you thought women were pretending to enjoy themselves for the attention. And something else I have now forgotten but wasn't important. Are you going to go back to make sure that women get the enjoyment they desire?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pure creepyif you want to forfill is a club a place its like seening people in a zoo "

Some sex is animalistic and very enjoyable,but I only have his and your word for it as I don't go to clubs. I don't like too much bacteria on me at one time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

Ooooooooooooo yea, and whisper what a dirty slut you are in your ear........love it

Just as long as there's an audience too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

Ooooooooooooo yea, and whisper what a dirty slut you are in your ear........love it

Just as long as there's an audience too

Oh yes a big audience clapping and cheering us on.....I've fell in love with you already, we just love the fun, banter and sex, nothing like it, after a hard working week, just to let yourself go, and enjoy what humans do best xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Can't say I've ever seen a situation where women can't say no, that would worry me greatly.

I find group sex a big adrenaline rush, so you will find me moaning and groaning at the pure pleasure and sexual freedom of the situation, not necessarily at the size of a guys cock.

This goes for me too. I'm way more animated in a club as I feel I can just let go and I love the idea of other people getting turned on by my enthusiasm.

A really big cock can me go a bit quiet, in fact, as some take my breath away

Bet we would have lots of fun together lol.....me and kinkybitch spur each on, "stop moaning, and take that cock bitch" great times, great memories.

Lol. I bet we could. Fancy holding me down and encouraging the men?

Ooooooooooooo yea, and whisper what a dirty slut you are in your ear........love it

Just as long as there's an audience too

Take it up the arse?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Very much this. Also mate it sounds like you have an ego, swinging clubs aren't good for that. Chill out and have some fun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

How do you know it was cold sex? Did you ask? And how do you know woman are pretending?

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and judging people without knowing the facts.

If you have such a low opinion of the people in the clubs and on here, why stay? As you say you have a lot to learn."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

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club sex is cold sex, its maybe looks based wam bam thankyou mam some don't even know the persons name or what they look like and this is a factual answer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

Maybe you just need to be a little more open minded, I love the club scene and have had some amazing times in them... and I love the Swinging lifestyle as a whole.. It sounds to me like you just walked around a club in a towel looking down your nose at everyone else who just might be having fun, You thought you were Bigger and better in the cock department but made no attempt to mingle with other people..

Just a little tip for you babe, A little conversation and a smile now and again will get you further than being uptight, stand offish and looking down on the very people you are on a Sex site hoping to meet. but I'm guessing after your post not many people will be lining up to meet you..

As for your comment about escorts hating Fab ! Come on what planet are you living on.. Escorts have sex for money.... Swingers do it for the fun and lots of other reasons known only to each and every one of us...

I would say happy Swinging to you babe but I'm not sure you know what Swinging is all about...

Hope you find what you are looking for...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I personally enjoy Adult clubs in most cases than Nightclubs...Hot tub is priceless...It's liberating knowing you can walk round butt-naked....more chilled out and relaxed chat with gents and ladies with no sexual pressure (I avoid creeps who uninvitingly follow females round the club though)....if it's on it's on, if not you have a laugh together !

Since you enjoy the bits about nudity and no sexual pressure, but you clearly don't enjoy the sex bits of a swinging club, have you considered going to naturist clubs instead? No sex, of course, but it seems like you think everyone is hating that anyway. A naturist club might be more for you?

Also - it's cliques, not clicks. And I believe that they're more usually called 'friendships'. Of course couples will leave a communal room when a single guy goes in if they don't want to play with a single guy. Single guys can sometimes be really unpleasant and judgemental in clubs if you say you're not interested in them (a bit like yourself, really) so it's easier to leave than to have an awkward conversation with them.

As for your analysis of 'pretend' couples. Yeah, some men do look to partner up just to get through the door. But most people who you think aren't real couples, I bet they are. My partner and I get called a 'pretend' couple of 'fuckbuddies' all the time just because we don't live with each other. Reality is though, we have deeper and more meaningful relationships than many people that live together.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Maybe I simply still have a lot to learn about swinging ?

club sex is cold sex, its maybe looks based wam bam thankyou mam some don't even know the persons name or what they look like and this is a factual answer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah we get this. We are in an open relationship and so many people, not just couples, assume we are just FB's, not true.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does anyone know who Mr 5"7 is?

He sounds more fun than the OP

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I think you "Swinging Knights" need to stop justifying your Swinging lifestyle....the emphasis of my original post is about a woman taking control and saying stop if she's not enjoying something rather than pretend she is as a way of fitting in with the norms of swinging in a club or wherever, then come on online (nice verifications) under great pretence that all is well and fabulous !.....dick sizes I mentioned was for factual illustration purposes only and not the main emphasis of my original post.

Clubs are relaxed and chilled out hence I why I go occasionally but sometimes unpleasant does happen..."I was playing with a couple with the door firmly shut suddenly a random guy walked, we had to verbally ask him to leave, it was a proper awkward situation"

Some men like the 5"7 guy I mention in my original post gets it when the spark is no longer in a ladies eyes probably due exhaustion and end play with dignity but some men go on and on forever and most single women simply endure it (although not forced to do so)....simply for been too polite, maybe the need to feel wanted, maybe not knowing how to say STOP or for whatever reason ?

Simply because you the will power and can take control a of situation or you have a partner that look out for you as a couple does not mean every single woman can !

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