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over a year ago
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Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J"
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself."
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"To me it is:
Miss = never married
Ms = was married but isn't now, how dare you call me Miss, a catchall in case you don't know if they are a Miss or Mrs.
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No, I've chosen Ms as my title since I was 16 and opened my first bank account. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. "
Quite probably yes, but I've never met a Ms who hasn't been married or in a partnership |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. "
Yep this! |
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. "
 this is correct. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married.
Quite probably yes, but I've never met a Ms who hasn't been married or in a partnership "
I know plenty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To me it is:
Miss = never married
Ms = was married but isn't now, how dare you call me Miss, a catchall in case you don't know if they are a Miss or Mrs.
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Most of the ladies i know who have been married kept the Mrs title. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself."
I believe this to be correct too. Although since I got divorced recently I've decided I want to be a miss again so I am!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. "
I would see it this way too but would say the title Ms would be maybe used more by women in their the mid 20's upwards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I believe this to be correct too. Although since I got divorced recently I've decided I want to be a miss again so I am!!! "
I want to be a miss again, and I would be if the courts hadn't lost my divorce paperwork  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I believe this to be correct too. Although since I got divorced recently I've decided I want to be a miss again so I am!!!
I want to be a miss again, and I would be if the courts hadn't lost my divorce paperwork "
I changed my name by deed pill hun. Before my divorce papers came through. It's very easily done online.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I believe this to be correct too. Although since I got divorced recently I've decided I want to be a miss again so I am!!!
I want to be a miss again, and I would be if the courts hadn't lost my divorce paperwork
I changed my name by deed pill hun. Before my divorce papers came through. It's very easily done online. "
I may well do thay then |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When I finally get round to divorcing him I'm going to go for Ms and a double barrelled surname, my maiden name and my old married one, only so I still have part of the same name as my kids x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When I finally get round to divorcing him I'm going to go for Ms and a double barrelled surname, my maiden name and my old married one, only so I still have part of the same name as my kids x"
If I did that I would have a 16 letter surname,plus the hyphen. I would hate having to sign my name. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When I finally get round to divorcing him I'm going to go for Ms and a double barrelled surname, my maiden name and my old married one, only so I still have part of the same name as my kids x
If I did that I would have a 16 letter surname,plus the hyphen. I would hate having to sign my name."
Mine is 14 (15 with the hyphen!) my maiden name is a weird one too lol |
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I kept Mrs married surname because of the boys & work but I absolutely hate it. It's very short though
I may go back to my maiden name when boys are older. Eldest wants to change to my lovely maiden name too  |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"I think next year I will get round to changing my name back, its just laziness that has stopped me but I will definetly be miss I think ms sounds like a dried up old spinister
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One very happy dried up spinster here. 
I'm a Ms. Miss did not feel right and sure as hell did not want to stay Mrs, but wanted the same surname as my son still. |
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By *otForSoftiesWoman
over a year ago
The North / Party Hard Everywhere |
In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J"
One you badly miss & the other you only just ms ....... by the skin of your teeth...sort of...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ms = you're about to get a long protracted rant about feminism, how men are bastards, and how you're personally oppressing women everywhere by using anything else.
General is my experience with any women who uses the term to refer to herself. |
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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
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. Men are just Mr. Why on earth are women titled depending on their current proximity to a man? |
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I believe the French use the nonspecific madam, a term of respect and social status not involved when addressing her.
Sounds the way forward but you lot might use that term here already for something else |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
. Men are just Mr. Why on earth are women titled depending on their current proximity to a man?"
.it's so the postman knows if he can hit on you or not |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ms = you're about to get a long protracted rant about feminism, how men are bastards, and how you're personally oppressing women everywhere by using anything else.
General is my experience with any women who uses the term to refer to herself. "
Only when questioned why on earth you're using that title, when "women should be happy with Miss or Mrs". Sigh. |
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
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Can see what you mean and it shouldn't matter having marital status define how your are addressed but it's a drop in the ocean equality problem when you consider surnames change on getting married for most women.
Ms or Mrs seems small time when you go from Whyte to Black overnight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I call myself Ms simply because I felt when I was in my thirties I didn't feel young enough to call myself Miss. And I've never been married and unlikely to happen so I will continue to call myself Ms until I die |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can see what you mean and it shouldn't matter having marital status define how your are addressed but it's a drop in the ocean equality problem when you consider surnames change on getting married for most women.
Ms or Mrs seems small time when you go from Whyte to Black overnight."
I've had the same surname all my life. I suggested to my husband when we married that we both changed our surnames to eg a grandparent's name or a place that was meaningful to us. He said "I'm not changing my name for anyone". Point proven.
Divorced 11 years later and so glad I stuck to my principles. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I did not foresee this level of response. Thanks for all the comments ladies, be you miss, ms, mrs or some combination of the three. It's been an interesting read.
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J"
It has always been Mr. for men.
Miss for unmarried women.
Mrs. for married women.
Unease arose amongst women who couldn't help but question why their marital status should be apparent by their name when the status of men wasn't treated this way.
Ms. was introduced so that women don't have to reveal ( just as men don't ) whether they are married or not. |
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By *otForSoftiesWoman
over a year ago
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
Can see what you mean and it shouldn't matter having marital status define how your are addressed but it's a drop in the ocean equality problem when you consider surnames change on getting married for most women.
Ms or Mrs seems small time when you go from Whyte to Black overnight."
It's not a drop in the ocean. This identification is day in day out, we teach our sons and daughters to identify the age and status of a female by how we address her. This is possibly one of the most ingrained inequalities that deserves to be left in the last century.
You may call me Ms. In my case it stands for Mistress |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I did not foresee this level of response. Thanks for all the comments ladies, be you miss, ms, mrs or some combination of the three. It's been an interesting read.
Mr J"
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
It has always been Mr. for men.
Miss for unmarried women.
Mrs. for married women.
Unease arose amongst women who couldn't help but question why their marital status should be apparent by their name when the status of men wasn't treated this way.
Ms. was introduced so that women don't have to reveal ( just as men don't ) whether they are married or not. "
This! and quite rightly so. I am a Mrs and proud to be. but others choose to keep their marital status private and that's their prerogative |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the age of equality women should only have one like men do and not a choice to denote age and/or marital status. Miss should be like Master and end in childhood and not continue to show someone is unmarried - I find it disrespectful to label grown women like this. We shouldn't have to change it when circumstances change. Or be asked which one whenever there's a form to complete. Or have to correct it when there's the inevitable incorrect assumption. It annoys me obviously
Can see what you mean and it shouldn't matter having marital status define how your are addressed but it's a drop in the ocean equality problem when you consider surnames change on getting married for most women.
Ms or Mrs seems small time when you go from Whyte to Black overnight.
It's not a drop in the ocean. This identification is day in day out, we teach our sons and daughters to identify the age and status of a female by how we address her. This is possibly one of the most ingrained inequalities that deserves to be left in the last century.
You may call me Ms. In my case it stands for Mistress "
Yeah next we'll be having married people identify their marital status not only with their name prefixes but some kind of visible symbol.
Maybe some sort of shiny metal ring they could wear on their hands |
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married. "
And I know several Ms' who are married. |
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It's a way of categorising women. Again.
Miss and Mrs denote unmarried and married respectively, but we all know that. In rebellion to that, the title of Ms was developed so that the reader has no idea what the woman's marital status is.
Just like Mr. |
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"To me it is:
Miss = never married
Ms = was married but isn't now, how dare you call me Miss, a catchall in case you don't know if they are a Miss or Mrs.
Most of the ladies i know who have been married kept the Mrs title."
I have. |
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married.
I would see it this way too but would say the title Ms would be maybe used more by women in their the mid 20's upwards."
My daughters are/were Miss. The eldest changed her name and status when she married. |
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"My mum was a Ms throughout her marriage and kept her own surname. So her name hasn't changed at all, ever. "
Except of course when she changed it to ms.... |
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"When I finally get round to divorcing him I'm going to go for Ms and a double barrelled surname, my maiden name and my old married one, only so I still have part of the same name as my kids x"
I wanted to have the same name as my kids too. My maiden name was double barrelled so to add my marital name would be silly.
My two youngest will have double barrel surnames if they marry their boyfriends. Both have half of my maiden name in theirs...weird. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My mum was a Ms throughout her marriage and kept her own surname. So her name hasn't changed at all, ever.
Except of course when she changed it to ms...."
Which I did at the age of 16. Before that, I didn't really have the opportunity to legally voice an opinion. Being a child, and all... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right let me be the first to ask something I have always wondered but never asked because I "should already know"
What is the difference between miss & ms?
Mr J
Miss is normally an unmarried, not been married lady. Ms, a lady who is divorced or in a civil partnership and no longer wishesnti use the title miss or Mrs. That is how I have always defined it myself.
I thought Ms could just be if you chose to use it. I know a Ms who has never been married.
Yep this!"
This again!
A guy is called Mr from when he reaches adult-hood!
A woman was previously defined by her marital status - miss then Mrs - and at one time there was a real stigma if you never became a Mrs!
Understandably many women, myself included (though I'd hardly call myself a women's libber!), don't wish to be defined by our marital status - therefore we refer to ourselves as 'ms'!
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I have a new one!
What's the difference between unleaded petrol & super unleaded? Can you use either in a petrol engine or does the engine have to be designed for one or the other?
Mr J |
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"I have a new one!
What's the difference between unleaded petrol & super unleaded? Can you use either in a petrol engine or does the engine have to be designed for one or the other?
Mr J"
Lesson 1:Always ask Mrs J before posting
You can't put diesel in a petrol or it wrecks the engine.
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"I have a new one!
What's the difference between unleaded petrol & super unleaded? Can you use either in a petrol engine or does the engine have to be designed for one or the other?
Mr J"
You've just invoked Mr Who... |
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