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Got to admit, I am happy to see this going the parliament. Although it's a sad state of affairs when a law has to come in because some drivers lack common sense....
Can a pushchair/wheelchair or even a person get through the gap I left? No? Mmmmm, I should find somewhere else to park then. |
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"Got to admit, I am happy to see this going the parliament. Although it's a sad state of affairs when a law has to come in because some drivers lack common sense....
Can a pushchair/wheelchair or even a person get through the gap I left? No? Mmmmm, I should find somewhere else to park then."
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They should also add that hedges have to be trimmed back to allow people through. No point having a pavement with 2 feet of overgrown privet in the way. |
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"I'm pretty sure there are laws covering these things.
No point making more laws when you don't have the people to enforce them..."
Well when I did park on the pavement (we've all done once in our lives, I was very young and didn't care like I do now) I got a fine from a friendly policeman, so yes there is a law already!! |
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"Got to admit, I am happy to see this going the parliament. Although it's a sad state of affairs when a law has to come in because some drivers lack common sense....
Can a pushchair/wheelchair or even a person get through the gap I left? No? Mmmmm, I should find somewhere else to park then."
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"it will be un-enforcable where we live, no large traffic would make it up the valley."
Same in our street. The roads and housing weren't designed for the amount of cars we own today. If the cars on our side of the street didn't park half on half off then the entire road would become a one way street with no access for fire engines. I park leaving enough room for a pushchair/wheelchair to get by (sorry double buggies) but not everyone does but they can always cross over and use the unblocked pavement on the other side of the road. |
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"I'm pretty sure there are laws covering these things.
No point making more laws when you don't have the people to enforce them...
Well when I did park on the pavement (we've all done once in our lives, I was very young and didn't care like I do now) I got a fine from a friendly policeman, so yes there is a law already!!"
The numbers of police, traffic wardens have dropped in many placed. Yes some get caught but many get away with it...
They do it near me at school pick up time. Occasionally you get a PCSO and a traffic warden stand outside the school, this stops it for one afternoon. If they hid, then jumped out and gave out a couple of tickets people would be a lot more wary... |
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"They should also add that hedges have to be trimmed back to allow people through. No point having a pavement with 2 feet of overgrown privet in the way. "
We ought to set up a fund to protect hedges. |
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Something needs doing about that and areas where bottlenecks occur do to thoughtful parking but i was informed that if it slows traffic they allow it as it makes the village safer this from my local village bobby. Dont think it does really as cars battle for supremacy and charge to get through the gaps |
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I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people. |
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"I'm pretty sure there are laws covering these things.
No point making more laws when you don't have the people to enforce them...
Well when I did park on the pavement (we've all done once in our lives, I was very young and didn't care like I do now) I got a fine from a friendly policeman, so yes there is a law already!!
The numbers of police, traffic wardens have dropped in many placed. Yes some get caught but many get away with it...
They do it near me at school pick up time. Occasionally you get a PCSO and a traffic warden stand outside the school, this stops it for one afternoon. If they hid, then jumped out and gave out a couple of tickets people would be a lot more wary..."
If it becomes clear this affects a large number of people in a local area (due to situations described abovr) you can be the council will happily contract it out to a parking firm to gather masses of income |
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There is a law in force that lets a police officer give a ticket to a car on the pavement the rule of thumb is if a person with a pushchair can't pass without stepping into the road it's a ticket |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people."
I accidentally scratched a car with my pram once. It was one of those large,carriage prams with metal nuts sticking out. There was too much traffic and I had two other children with me,so I was not walking in the road. |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people."
so the right to commit acts of vandalism was in the bill? now that's progressive  |
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"They should also add that hedges have to be trimmed back to allow people through. No point having a pavement with 2 feet of overgrown privet in the way. "
And people shouldn't leave their wheelie bins on the pavement all sodding week either. Basically people should take a bit of responsibility for where they live. |
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"So if this gets passed, what will happen to all the people who live in old house's with narrow roads and no where to park there cars?"
When you're house hunting, if you know you need a car or two or three, what makes you think "I know, I'll buy a house in the really narrow terraced street" rather than "maybe I should move somewhere with parking". I have no sympathy. Even worse are HMOs in terraced streets where there are about 4 cars per house. |
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"When you're house hunting, if you know you need a car or two or three, what makes you think "I know, I'll buy a house in the really narrow terraced street" rather than "maybe I should move somewhere with parking". "
maybe it's the only place that person can afford?
anyway, i checked this out. all this bill does is shift the onus from the councils to making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is not allowed to councils making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is allowed. so there is no need for everyone to get their knickers in a twist. |
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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago
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"Working with guide dogs really highlighted the problem. A guide dog will walk it's owner into the road to get around parked cars."
well, kind of. The dog treats the car like any other obstacle and does what is technically called an 'off kerb'. The dog goes to the edge of the kerb and stops. The owner should then try and get the dog to go back and straight on, when the dog goes to the kerb again it is obvious that there is then an obstacle and you need to get the dog to step into the road to go around the obstacle  |
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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago
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"'Pavement furniture' must be horrendous for hard of sighted people.
Isn't that what the stick is for?"
you want to try it, its a f*** nightmare, be so much better to rid the pavements of all furniture and A boards and leave a clearway for everyone |
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"When you're house hunting, if you know you need a car or two or three, what makes you think "I know, I'll buy a house in the really narrow terraced street" rather than "maybe I should move somewhere with parking".
maybe it's the only place that person can afford?
anyway, i checked this out. all this bill does is shift the onus from the councils to making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is not allowed to councils making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is allowed. so there is no need for everyone to get their knickers in a twist."
Where I live the Victorian terraces on narrow streets are considerably more expensive than a semi on an estate about further out. No twisted knickers here though, just a frustrated pedestrian who gets bored of having to squish my way past selfishly parked vehicles. |
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where i live,lots of residential streets are very narrow and the parking spaces have been marked out across half the pavements...never understood how this is legal;anyone with shopping,pushchairs etc,has to walk in the road...pavements are all smashed up as well now... |
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"'Pavement furniture' must be horrendous for hard of sighted people.
Isn't that what the stick is for?
you want to try it, its a f*** nightmare, be so much better to rid the pavements of all furniture and A boards and leave a clearway for everyone"
i sympathise .... just out of curiosity, do you ever fall foul of the mess left by early morning dogshitters? (pardon the pun) as we find this a bigger problem than the more inconsiderate pavement parkers where we live. |
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I live in an area that's parking permits only, the amount of times I've mentioned this to people for them to shrug and say I will only be a few minutes.
There is also a lot of traffic wardens where I live and I take great pleasure watching them come back to a car with a great big ticket on it |
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"When you're house hunting, if you know you need a car or two or three, what makes you think "I know, I'll buy a house in the really narrow terraced street" rather than "maybe I should move somewhere with parking".
maybe it's the only place that person can afford?
anyway, i checked this out. all this bill does is shift the onus from the councils to making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is not allowed to councils making a bye-law where parking over the kerb is allowed. so there is no need for everyone to get their knickers in a twist."
just cause its allowed doesn't mean its not downright ignorant to do it
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I know someone who lives on a very busy road and for ages motorists used to park on the pavement forcing the residents to risk their lives walking on the road. The police and council refused to do anything about it until someone started pouring paint stripper on the parked cars. Within days of this starting the police were suddenly turning up and issuing tickets. |
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I remember my Nan going past a car with my sister in a pram, scratching a car the full length of it as it was parked with not enough room for the silver cross pram to get through. Funny though the pram didn't have a mark on it.
I think it is stupid when car drivers do this, they deserve the odd scratch from buggy's and things going past. |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people.
so the right to commit acts of vandalism was in the bill? now that's progressive "
. The accidental nudging of a mirror or scratch from a rucksack as one is forced to squeeze by is hardly vandalism and the motorist surely recognises a risk. Deliberately acts are a different matter and not what I was talking about. |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people.
I accidentally scratched a car with my pram once. It was one of those large,carriage prams with metal nuts sticking out. There was too much traffic and I had two other children with me,so I was not walking in the road. "
You accidentally scratched a car that's understandable.
But you surely didn't deliberately walk off without leaving contact details? |
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"it will be un-enforcable where we live, no large traffic would make it up the valley.
Same in our street. The roads and housing weren't designed for the amount of cars we own today. If the cars on our side of the street didn't park half on half off then the entire road would become a one way street with no access for fire engines. I park leaving enough room for a pushchair/wheelchair to get by (sorry double buggies) but not everyone does but they can always cross over and use the unblocked pavement on the other side of the road."
If fire engines/ ambulances can't fit through due to idiot inconsiderate people blocking the roads with parked cars, what happens? Can they just plough through and smash the cars out of the way? |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people.
I accidentally scratched a car with my pram once. It was one of those large,carriage prams with metal nuts sticking out. There was too much traffic and I had two other children with me,so I was not walking in the road.
You accidentally scratched a car that's understandable.
But you surely didn't deliberately walk off without leaving contact details?"
Yes,surely I did. I wasn't going to pay the owner for the damage so no need for them to contact me. If you're stupid enough to park your car on a pavement,meant for walking on you have to expect things like this to happen. There was plenty of room on the road,where cars are supposed to be parked. Where my friend lives you get a parking ticket for parking on the pavement,even though the road isn't wide enough to park properly. We have designated parking on our pavements,you park with an inch of your wheel over the white line you get a ticket. |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people.
I accidentally scratched a car with my pram once. It was one of those large,carriage prams with metal nuts sticking out. There was too much traffic and I had two other children with me,so I was not walking in the road.
You accidentally scratched a car that's understandable.
But you surely didn't deliberately walk off without leaving contact details?
Yes,surely I did. I wasn't going to pay the owner for the damage so no need for them to contact me. If you're stupid enough to park your car on a pavement,meant for walking on you have to expect things like this to happen. There was plenty of room on the road,where cars are supposed to be parked. Where my friend lives you get a parking ticket for parking on the pavement,even though the road isn't wide enough to park properly. We have designated parking on our pavements,you park with an inch of your wheel over the white line you get a ticket. "
see, it's the other way around where we live. the roads are narrow but the pavements are wide and the bye laws allow to semi park on the kerb. as ever common sense is the order of the day. if it wasn't so then larger vehicles especially buses and emergency vehicles wouldn't be able to access the top of the valley and that would be a problem. |
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"I do a great deal of walking, any vehicle that parks so I have to squeeze by gets it's mirror altered or worse, an accidental scratch from my rucksack. It's the price they pay for inconsiderate parking, why should I step into the road and endanger myself? Pavements are for people.
I accidentally scratched a car with my pram once. It was one of those large,carriage prams with metal nuts sticking out. There was too much traffic and I had two other children with me,so I was not walking in the road.
You accidentally scratched a car that's understandable.
But you surely didn't deliberately walk off without leaving contact details?
Yes,surely I did. I wasn't going to pay the owner for the damage so no need for them to contact me. If you're stupid enough to park your car on a pavement,meant for walking on you have to expect things like this to happen. There was plenty of room on the road,where cars are supposed to be parked. Where my friend lives you get a parking ticket for parking on the pavement,even though the road isn't wide enough to park properly. We have designated parking on our pavements,you park with an inch of your wheel over the white line you get a ticket.
see, it's the other way around where we live. the roads are narrow but the pavements are wide and the bye laws allow to semi park on the kerb. as ever common sense is the order of the day. if it wasn't so then larger vehicles especially buses and emergency vehicles wouldn't be able to access the top of the valley and that would be a problem."
It's an offence in Greater London to park on a pavement that doesn't have parking bays. They are marked out on most pavements where parking is allowed. Our roads are much wider than the pavements where I am and there are parking bays both sides of roads along high streets. A lot of people have to pay to park outside their houses to stop people parking up and using the train stations. Most shopping areas have bays you can park in for a short time. In some places,like outside schools, the pavement is less than 6ft wide and people still park there to pick up children from school to save them walking a few hundred yards. Two people can't pass between the car and the gardens. |
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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago
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Where I live I'm left with no choice but to walk in the road. The streets here are not particularly narrow at all,much wider that the victorian terraces where I used to live. However, both sides of the street have cars parked on the pavements the entire length of the street. Fortunately the roads are quiet enough to make walking in them relatively safe |
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Should also apply to people who leave their wheelie bins on the pavement for several days in a row 
Put it out in the morning, take it in, in the evening ffs !! |
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My street is very narrow and is on a bus route so EVERYONE has to park on the pavement. It is a one way street so if they changed the bus route, we would not need to.
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