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I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility?  |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
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I do hope that Corbyn will inject some hope. Aren't we supposed to learn from history? |
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Britain is always at war!!
I don't think a year has gone by since 1940 that Britain hasn't been involved in a war somewhere, it's just not always reported on. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
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We are already at war conducting bombing missions in Iraq. Unfortunately, this little escalation to include bombing Syria just adds another complication to the already fucked up set of alliances that have an agenda for the end game.
The great irony here is that the UK will likely vote to extend the bombing mission into Syria but without a clear plan as to what to do next. Because it is not really a war, geo politics are getting in the way of good decision making and there really is only one decision to make. The U.K. and the rest of the coalition puts aside its differences with Russia and Syria and everyone goes all out to eradicate IS. The problem with that is that the Turks (amongst others) won't go along with that because their red line is a Syria without Assad and they have their eyes on some Syrian territory.
It is all fucked up and we could and should be doing a lot better than bombing them because can. I really don't think it will help, indeed I think it will make things worse. |
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility? "
You say that, but given a just cause and the motivation ie :extremists taking the country over, they proved during the London riots a few years ago that they can kick off if needs be.
It's not the youth of today who are the lazy fuckers it's the generation before them, 80's/90's dole dependant who are now early 40's and never done a single days work.
But am sure even they could be motivated to fight if their lives depended on it.
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility? "
Oi! I feel this is a personal attack on my Fallout 4 thread  
-Courtney |
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility?
You say that, but given a just cause and the motivation ie :extremists taking the country over, they proved during the London riots a few years ago that they can kick off if needs be.
It's not the youth of today who are the lazy fuckers it's the generation before them, 80's/90's dole dependant who are now early 40's and never done a single days work.
But am sure even they could be motivated to fight if their lives depended on it.
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Haha!! That would be my generation and I dare say you're probably right but I don't know anyone who's dole dependent and I've never not had a job.
I was more thinking along the lines of the First and Second World Wars... would we survive on rations? Would we need to? Times have moved on massively since then but can you imagine how badly we'd do in those times?  |
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Today's state of affairs makes me sad.
I am an American. I am used to my country bombing. I am used to being at war. I am used to my country killing people - innocent and guilty. It makes me sad that I can say that and mean it 100%.
I am sad that this is where we are. Are we close to war? We are in a war. And it is sad.
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The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!  |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there! "
Come on you can't leave it there. Point us in the direction of the actual facts my good man?
The people need to know. |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there! "
Ahh you gotta love a good cover up.
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there! "
sources of the facts please? |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there! "
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered. 
-Courtney |
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Differential is war over here (unlikely) or a war on a place which is technically already at war within itself.
Countries are already bombing Syria with, despite terrorist bombings, have not technically seen war being called upon them, so I don't think it will majorly effect us here in the UK but there is always a risk.
I try not to get involved with these threads with my background and current life but I don't see the uk being under major attack anytime soon, especially from any other military. |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney"
because they are ignorant of US history,and probably picking it up from war time when the habit of calling americans yanks seems to have stemmed from, no idea why that was though...obviously never watched 'gone with the wind'! |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility?
You say that, but given a just cause and the motivation ie :extremists taking the country over, they proved during the London riots a few years ago that they can kick off if needs be.
It's not the youth of today who are the lazy fuckers it's the generation before them, 80's/90's dole dependant who are now early 40's and never done a single days work.
But am sure even they could be motivated to fight if their lives depended on it.
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We haven't gone in for total war since 1945 and we aint likely to - those in power have learned from the postwar period - arming and training civillians who then return home and demand better living conditions, wages etc is not a good idea if they want to retain their stranglehold on society. |
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It is folly to consider the idea of ISIS being 'run' by the American government. However, the complexities of ISIS in how they began (and in turn how they were financed) deserves much more scrutiny that you may think. ISIS were funded in previous years by 3 major US/UK allies, including Kuwait, Quatar and Saudia Arabia. All of whom have substantial dealings with Western countries/political systems & economies. Once more, Al Qaeda formed in direct response to the Iraq Insurgency (or more radically, the West gave birth to ISIS by intervening with little cause) |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
because they are ignorant of US history,and probably picking it up from war time when the habit of calling americans yanks seems to have stemmed from, no idea why that was though...obviously never watched 'gone with the wind'!"
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney"
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy |
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I seen a snippet about the rothschilds...areas that have now come under the central bank...and the areas due to be..
all makes me wonder...
war?- no its control and restraint..I honestly cant believe people think some kind of ww3 is imminent...like it or not, consumerism is the saviour..and even most of these fundamental ideologists ,extremists,terrorists, tyrants etc will always have/want a rolls royce,plasma tv etc...
but they have their pawns doing the dirty work...and I dont believe for one second the global game of chess does not include ourselves as pawns. |
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You forum lot are funny but in a good way xx
Ive actually done research on the whole history
Knights of MALTA
BILDERBERG
ROCKEFELLER
ROTHCHILD
GENOCIDE.
VATICAN
MONARCY... If you bored read up on it.. You will find a clearer truthful history of it all. If not I can explain... |
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over a year ago
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
sources of the facts please?"
There's plenty of non conspiracy info out there who trained, equipped, funds the Sunni/Wahhabi anti Assad/Anti Shi'ite puppets. Western imperialism and its lackys, simple as.
Syria's not the first country, neither was Iraq or Afghanistan and they wont be the last to be destabilised as they wouldn't succumb to the west.
On bombing Syria. Every jihadi thats attacked Europe in recent years has been home grown, indoctrinated in Europe, apart from one London bomber who was from the Carribean originally. How bombing Syria is ultimately going to improve the security situation in European streets, UK streets is beyond many. It will make it worse not better as it will highten the jihadi cause.
All the west needs to do is stop its covert Syria meddling and many things will stop. But that's not the way of warmongers.
As usual thought the people baying for some bombing, baying for war, wanting to kick some islamic arse are the arm chair generals & playstation commando's. The last people who'll be ferried to the next warzone to possibly lose their life.
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
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We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations"
Can anyone remember the last time we wern't at war? |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations
Can anyone remember the last time we wern't at war?"
Or at least "in conflict". |
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"You forum lot are funny but in a good way xx
Ive actually done research on the whole history
Knights of MALTA
BILDERBERG
ROCKEFELLER
ROTHCHILD
GENOCIDE.
VATICAN
MONARCY... If you bored read up on it.. You will find a clearer truthful history of it all. If not I can explain... "
The whole history of it eh?
Yet not one mention of
Abu bkar
Or
Ali Ibn Abi Talib?
Cause they probably have a lot more to do with this than the Vatican |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
sources of the facts please?
There's plenty of non conspiracy info out there who trained, equipped, funds the Sunni/Wahhabi anti Assad/Anti Shi'ite puppets. Western imperialism and its lackys, simple as.
Syria's not the first country, neither was Iraq or Afghanistan and they wont be the last to be destabilised as they wouldn't succumb to the west.
On bombing Syria. Every jihadi thats attacked Europe in recent years has been home grown, indoctrinated in Europe, apart from one London bomber who was from the Carribean originally. How bombing Syria is ultimately going to improve the security situation in European streets, UK streets is beyond many. It will make it worse not better as it will highten the jihadi cause.
All the west needs to do is stop its covert Syria meddling and many things will stop. But that's not the way of warmongers.
As usual thought the people baying for some bombing, baying for war, wanting to kick some islamic arse are the arm chair generals & playstation commando's. The last people who'll be ferried to the next warzone to possibly lose their life.
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would that non conspiracy info be on the web by any chance..? |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations
Can anyone remember the last time we wern't at war?
Or at least "in conflict"."
1968? |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I seen a snippet about the rothschilds...areas that have now come under the central bank...and the areas due to be..
all makes me wonder...
war?- no its control and restraint..I honestly cant believe people think some kind of ww3 is imminent...like it or not, consumerism is the saviour..and even most of these fundamental ideologists ,extremists,terrorists, tyrants etc will always have/want a rolls royce,plasma tv etc...
but they have their pawns doing the dirty work...and I dont believe for one second the global game of chess does not include ourselves as pawns."
For the time being, at least, commrade.  |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations
Can anyone remember the last time we wern't at war?"
There has been one year since the end of ww2 where a British soldier has not died in combat iirc
A lot of it is peacekeeping missions etc though.
But the other way to look at it is the day we really need the army do you really want it full of nco's who have never seen combat?
It's like any profession if you don't use their skills they will lose them and all the unoffical experience that goes with it |
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations
Can anyone remember the last time we wern't at war?
Or at least "in conflict".
1968?"
Northern Ireland? |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy "
Maybe so. But that's a bit derogatory then.  |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy
Maybe so. But that's a bit derogatory then. "
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"Britain is always at war!!
I don't think a year has gone by since 1940 that Britain hasn't been involved in a war somewhere, it's just not always reported on."
I,m sure if you look You could go back before 1940 (given a few gaps here and there)where britain has been Involved if not directly in war Or troubles of one kind or another I think you would be amazed how far back. |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy
Maybe so. But that's a bit derogatory then.
Is it any worse than being called "limeys" or "POMS"? "
No. But then I've never heard anyone called that on here. While "yanks" is used fairly often.
But I'm not complaining. Merely interested.
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
sources of the facts please?
There's plenty of non conspiracy info out there who trained, equipped, funds the Sunni/Wahhabi anti Assad/Anti Shi'ite puppets. Western imperialism and its lackys, simple as.
Syria's not the first country, neither was Iraq or Afghanistan and they wont be the last to be destabilised as they wouldn't succumb to the west.
On bombing Syria. Every jihadi thats attacked Europe in recent years has been home grown, indoctrinated in Europe, apart from one London bomber who was from the Carribean originally. How bombing Syria is ultimately going to improve the security situation in European streets, UK streets is beyond many. It will make it worse not better as it will highten the jihadi cause.
All the west needs to do is stop its covert Syria meddling and many things will stop. But that's not the way of warmongers.
As usual thought the people baying for some bombing, baying for war, wanting to kick some islamic arse are the arm chair generals & playstation commando's. The last people who'll be ferried to the next warzone to possibly lose their life.
would that non conspiracy info be on the web by any chance..?"
Who mentioned the web. Ever consider that some 'info' aka awareness might come from a coal face like it did before google |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy
Maybe so. But that's a bit derogatory then.
Is it any worse than being called "limeys" or "POMS"?
No. But then I've never heard anyone called that on here. While "yanks" is used fairly often.
But I'm not complaining. Merely interested.
-Courtney"
We're unlikely to refer to ourselves as the afore mentioned, and being British we'd take it in the good humour that it was ment, and not get our knickers in a twist over it. |
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"Today's state of affairs makes me sad.
I am an American. I am used to my country bombing. I am used to being at war. I am used to my country killing people - innocent and guilty. It makes me sad that I can say that and mean it 100%.
I am sad that this is where we are. Are we close to war? We are in a war. And it is sad.
-Courtney"
This. |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there! "
If course we don't. 
'nough said. |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
I always thought it was because of the song Yankie Doodle Dandy
Maybe so. But that's a bit derogatory then.
Is it any worse than being called "limeys" or "POMS"?
No. But then I've never heard anyone called that on here. While "yanks" is used fairly often.
But I'm not complaining. Merely interested.
-Courtney
We're unlikely to refer to ourselves as the afore mentioned, and being British we'd take it in the good humour that it was ment, and not get our knickers in a twist over it."
Ok. Sure. But I'm not British and I've never used those terms.
As I've said, I don't have my "knickers in a twist." I was curious. You didn't have to reply if you didn't want. I was asking a question I've often wondered about. Perhaps your knickers are twisted?
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney"
You're just all Yanks to us. What else could we call you all. (but I think it really took hold here in WW1 with the song 'Over there' which had the immortal lines 'Because the Yanks are coming, Yes the Yanks are coming, And they won't be back till they've finished over there' ) |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
You're just all Yanks to us. What else could we call you all. (but I think it really took hold here in WW1 with the song 'Over there' which had the immortal lines 'Because the Yanks are coming, Yes the Yanks are coming, And they won't be back till they've finished over there' )"
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney"
The song Yankee Doodle Dandy probably has something to do with it. Us Brits have a complex about being dictated to by anyone other than ourselves read (EU) and still deep down, will never surrender or forget.
You burnt our tea, we call all Americans 'yanks' and remain ignorant about subconscious racism.
I read an article the other day that said something along the lines of 'while we were not alive when the slave trade flourished, it's effects still linger. How many times have you looked at a black male and thought mugger, thief, rapist, drug dealer or murderer rather than a male minding his own business' |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
The song Yankee Doodle Dandy probably has something to do with it. Us Brits have a complex about being dictated to by anyone other than ourselves read (EU) and still deep down, will never surrender or forget.
You burnt our tea, we call all Americans 'yanks' and remain ignorant about subconscious racism.
I read an article the other day that said something along the lines of 'while we were not alive when the slave trade flourished, it's effects still linger. How many times have you looked at a black male and thought mugger, thief, rapist, drug dealer or murderer rather than a male minding his own business' "
Interesting take on it too. Cheers.
I think I've sidetracked the OPs post enough now, though. Apologies, OP. 
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More bombing will create a hydra whose heads will appear in new places.
And more people will die in the cross-fire.
Certainly says a lot for the situation that the most 'reasonable' partner in Syria today is Assad and his regime - that was only recently threatened by UK airstrikes in summer 2013.
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
The song Yankee Doodle Dandy probably has something to do with it. Us Brits have a complex about being dictated to by anyone other than ourselves read (EU) and still deep down, will never surrender or forget.
You burnt our tea, we call all Americans 'yanks' and remain ignorant about subconscious racism.
I read an article the other day that said something along the lines of 'while we were not alive when the slave trade flourished, it's effects still linger. How many times have you looked at a black male and thought mugger, thief, rapist, drug dealer or murderer rather than a male minding his own business'
Interesting take on it too. Cheers.
I think I've sidetracked the OPs post enough now, though. Apologies, OP.
-Courtney"
I'm yanking at yer pics courtney... |
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"The crazy thing is what not many people realise is that this so called terrorist cell are actually run by the yanks its alot to go into detail here but hey hope im not confusing anyone or you think im mad this is based on actual facts. As moulder would say the Truth is out there!
Can I just ask....
Why do British people call Americans "yanks"? I never understood this. In the US, yanks are only northerners. If you called a southerner a yank they would be outraged and insulted. So....why?
And yes, I realize this is off topic, but I've always wondered.
-Courtney
The song Yankee Doodle Dandy probably has something to do with it. Us Brits have a complex about being dictated to by anyone other than ourselves read (EU) and still deep down, will never surrender or forget.
You burnt our tea, we call all Americans 'yanks' and remain ignorant about subconscious racism.
I read an article the other day that said something along the lines of 'while we were not alive when the slave trade flourished, it's effects still linger. How many times have you looked at a black male and thought mugger, thief, rapist, drug dealer or murderer rather than a male minding his own business'
Interesting take on it too. Cheers.
I think I've sidetracked the OPs post enough now, though. Apologies, OP.
-Courtney
I'm yanking at yer pics courtney... "
I've already apologized to the OP once for going off-topic |
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War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV. |
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I think you're probably half right. I agree that we arnt at war in the sense of conventional warfare; its an asymmetric battle space - there's no front line. But there has always been a internal threat to the security of our county. Whether it was the IRA or radicals. What is for certain the nieave concept that inaction will deter IS from bombing our shores will cost lives. The reality is geo global politics have changed and so to has the way factions project power and promote their cause. The west are targets full stop. |
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV."
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney |
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility?
You say that, but given a just cause and the motivation ie :extremists taking the country over, they proved during the London riots a few years ago that they can kick off if needs be.
It's not the youth of today who are the lazy fuckers it's the generation before them, 80's/90's dole dependant who are now early 40's and never done a single days work.
But am sure even they could be motivated to fight if their lives depended on it.
We haven't gone in for total war since 1945 and we aint likely to - those in power have learned from the postwar period - arming and training civillians who then return home and demand better living conditions, wages etc is not a good idea if they want to retain their stranglehold on society. "
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May i respectfully disagree. Corbyn lives in a world of rainbow dogs and chocolate machines if he believes that not bombing IS will negate us as a target. IS have even murdered more Muslims than the west and they see any iideology other than their own a threat. History has taught us that pacifists allowed dictators to flourish and abstence threatens piece. That's how the Nazis rebuilt the German war machine. Pluto said if you want piece prepare for war. Britain has been privy to terrorism since the Easter uprising of the irish troubles. Extremism is global we can't hide from it. |
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"I don't know. I was thinking about this last night.
During my thought process, I decided that if we did go to war we, as a society, would be totally fucking useless.
Given that we can't manage to grit the roads when it snows or keep shoppers under control on Black Friday, I'm pretty sure that this generation of computer game loving youths who have everything handed on a plate would be next to no good when it comes to signing up and fighting for our country. It would be carnage at best.
Is that even a possibility? "
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over a year ago
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"Vote on Wednesday.
We are closer to war than you think.
Do you think war is near?
We've been bombing them in Iraq for ages all it is is expanding the area of operations"
But the difference is, in Iraq we have been asked for assistance, asked to bomb, but the Iraqi government. In Syria it is not the case.
As has been said by the Defence Secretary, the UK is already one of the highest priority targets for terrorism. I doubt it will make much of a difference in terms of threat level in the UK.
We have issue with both Assad and ISIS, but are only looking to bomb one. Airpower without the force on the ground on retake and hold, has limited effectiveness. The Americans have been bombing for a while now, what impact has that had?
That said, Im not convinced we should expand into bombing inside Syria. I would like to see a much greater Arab response to the crisis, rather than further western intervention. |
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airstrikes will serve NO purpose,all it will do is kill innocent people and turn more to extremism.
if a country started bombing us here in middle england,id want to go to their country and take out revenge |
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I hope Corbyn can do something to prevent this.
Should know by now, that this will not work, why is everyone wanting to go asap, it makes no sense.
We were told about how Iraq etc needed to happen, our way of life was threatened, bollocks was it.
Pretty sure if we left them alone, nothing would have happened.
We know the 3000 deaths on 9,11 added over a million innocent people to toll of deaths from going to war.
Pretty sure that would piss of any remaining family members to join terrorist groups to get revenge.
The bombings going on now are killing innocent people, Isis, will surround themselves with innocent people.
We don't need this. As for Russia, Turkey, Turkey are buying oil off Isis, they shot Russia down as Russia were bombing the ones doing this. |
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"airstrikes will serve NO purpose,all it will do is kill innocent people and turn more to extremism.
if a country started bombing us here in middle england,id want to go to their country and take out revenge"
this
Isn't this the story of the beginning (or partly) of ISIS ; - yeah look at that nasty dictator in Iraq, I know, let's bomb the shit out of Bagdhad, slaughter tens of thousands (at the very least) of innocent people to free them, errm, from their evil dictator!!
Some lessons will never be learnt! |
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"airstrikes will serve NO purpose,all it will do is kill innocent people and turn more to extremism.
if a country started bombing us here in middle england,id want to go to their country and take out revenge
this
Isn't this the story of the beginning (or partly) of ISIS ; - yeah look at that nasty dictator in Iraq, I know, let's bomb the shit out of Bagdhad, slaughter tens of thousands (at the very least) of innocent people to free them, errm, from their evil dictator!!
Some lessons will never be learnt!"
Spot on with that, you kill so many innocent people with bombing, destroy their homes, places of work, family, they are gonna be seriously pissed at us, i wouldnt blame them for joining a what we call terrorist group but to them, its more revenge, we are the terrorists to them.
If our country was bombed, so many innocent lost, we would want to go after them. |
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BILDERBERG... Mission is to have ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. A secret group us taxpayers pay for. At no cost they want world control. Think outside box..
KNIGHTS OF MALTA.. Monarchy Vatican freemasons. They created CIA M15 M16 ISIS.. NEW WORLD ORDER... AGENDA 21.
ALL TREASONERS..
Be safe. Be happy. Happy swinging. Might be your last chance. |
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"airstrikes will serve NO purpose,all it will do is kill innocent people and turn more to extremism.
if a country started bombing us here in middle england,id want to go to their country and take out revenge
this
Isn't this the story of the beginning (or partly) of ISIS ; - yeah look at that nasty dictator in Iraq, I know, let's bomb the shit out of Bagdhad, slaughter tens of thousands (at the very least) of innocent people to free them, errm, from their evil dictator!!
Some lessons will never be learnt!
Spot on with that, you kill so many innocent people with bombing, destroy their homes, places of work, family, they are gonna be seriously pissed at us, i wouldnt blame them for joining a what we call terrorist group but to them, its more revenge, we are the terrorists to them.
If our country was bombed, so many innocent lost, we would want to go after them."
we've had plenty of arsehole leaders here throughout history, so imagine if another country bombed the shit out of our cities to 'liberate' us from those?
Terrorism or an act of war? |
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"BILDERBERG... Mission is to have ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. A secret group us taxpayers pay for. At no cost they want world control. Think outside box..
KNIGHTS OF MALTA.. Monarchy Vatican freemasons. They created CIA M15 M16 ISIS.. NEW WORLD ORDER... AGENDA 21.
ALL TREASONERS..
Be safe. Be happy. Happy swinging. Might be your last chance. "
Goddamn Freemasons |
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This whole mess goes back to 1910s and break up of Ottoman Empire post WW1. Britain and France wanted to carve up Middle East like they had Africa. They literally drew a line across the desert to create Syria and Iraq as well as Jordan and Palestine.
They promised Jews their own country then broke that promise (Balfor declaration).
Now different religions and ethnicities try to win control of nations invented in 1920 by Brits and French, no wonder there are civil wars.
There needs to be self determination and countries aligned to cultural unities not fake lines on the map dragging different cultures into one nation to fight over resources.
There are plenty of academic histories about this. Read up so you truely understand. Google middle east history...
However ISIS must be overthrown first they are nuts! |
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"BILDERBERG... Mission is to have ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. A secret group us taxpayers pay for. At no cost they want world control. Think outside box..
KNIGHTS OF MALTA.. Monarchy Vatican freemasons. They created CIA M15 M16 ISIS.. NEW WORLD ORDER... AGENDA 21.
ALL TREASONERS..
Be safe. Be happy. Happy swinging. Might be your last chance. "
stay off the herbal cigarettes..
may make you delusional.. |
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Scary times, the planned proxy war to topple none petrodollar paying counties is turning hot.
General Wesley Clark, who was the head of NATO told the world about this total utter murderous plan back in 2001, 7 countries to be attacked, he was informed about it 10 days after 9/11
So many whistle blowers, from such good jobs, putting there life at risk, to warn us, the very people they sworn to protect. yet nobody cares, simple label them. traitors, nut jobs, conspiracy theories. list goes on.
if people give links, thats a link. find your own, takes few seconds, you will find that the truth about isis has been online for years. do some homework. it all leads down the same path of truth. mybe then people can stop this madness. its our country, not the leaders. they mybe dragging us past total debt into war.
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Thats one of the biggest problems, you talk about stuff thats not in the mainstream media and your nuts.
Think of it this way, if your government was controlled and they had control of the mainstream media, how else would you want the truth to come out?
its not like the BBC would sudden tell you when theyre controlled.
Those higher up, every time someone leaks out a truth, they're blown up as some big conspiracy theorist, nut job etc.
Look at the money, who owns what, who benefits from certain law changes, wars, cuts to poor, selling off nhs, privatization etc Who wons the newspapers, the news channels etc.
They wanna discredit someone coming out with the truth, they can.
Look at protests, you cant seem to have peaceful ones these days even if everyone going is peaceful, because police have to make arrests, they will have people planted to start riots, they've been caught on camera loads of times, mainstream media wont show this, they wanna make out anyone protesting is wrong.
And most of you will think im nuts, just do your research, dont follow the bbc, newspapers. |
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"This whole mess goes back to 1910s and break up of Ottoman Empire post WW1. Britain and France wanted to carve up Middle East like they had Africa. They literally drew a line across the desert to create Syria and Iraq as well as Jordan and Palestine.
They promised Jews their own country then broke that promise (Balfor declaration).
Now different religions and ethnicities try to win control of nations invented in 1920 by Brits and French, no wonder there are civil wars.
There needs to be self determination and countries aligned to cultural unities not fake lines on the map dragging different cultures into one nation to fight over resources.
There are plenty of academic histories about this. Read up so you truely understand. Google middle east history...
However ISIS must be overthrown first they are nuts!"
Except you are ignoring the fact that until relatively recently different faiths including Jews in Syria and Iraq coexisted peacefully. This is less about borders after all one vision was for one grand country covering the entire middle east than the Islamic faiths and arab secularists are struggling to define who they are regardless of outsiders. The two opposing forces of this are Iran and Saudi Arabia. |
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney"
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war. |
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war."
The US is sending in 500 special forces troops on the ground.
And like it or not, modern warfare will be fought more and more without troops on the ground. It's still war.
-Courtney |
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war.
The US is sending in 500 special forces troops on the ground.
And like it or not, modern warfare will be fought more and more without troops on the ground. It's still war.
-Courtney"
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war.
The US is sending in 500 special forces troops on the ground.
And like it or not, modern warfare will be fought more and more without troops on the ground. It's still war.
-Courtney
We are not the US."
We already have special forces on the ground... |
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war.
The US is sending in 500 special forces troops on the ground.
And like it or not, modern warfare will be fought more and more without troops on the ground. It's still war.
-Courtney
We are not the US."
Correct. But if you look at the comment my comment was directed at, you will see that it was not UK specific and that I tailored my initial response to say I was probably thinking more of the US.
So what's your point?
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"War?
Most of the world against IS isn't really a war unless you happen to be living in any of the countries they inhabit.
A lot of the world is locked in conflict already but I'm glad you watch TV.
I think we are at war. We've done all but declare it. The west, anyway, not the UK specifically (I'm probably thinking more the US than the UK). The war we are fighting might not be conventional, but it's war nevertheless. What would make it real warfare, at this point, in your opinion?
-Courtney
Troops?
At this point it's more like "agressive parcel delivery" than a war.
The US is sending in 500 special forces troops on the ground.
And like it or not, modern warfare will be fought more and more without troops on the ground. It's still war.
-Courtney
We are not the US.
We already have special forces on the ground..."
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"The defence budget i suspect.
the one that's continually being slashed as they need to make savings?"
Osborne got higher than expected tax income, that's why he scrapped the tax credits cuts and axed police spending cuts. Some of the extra money may also now go to the Ministry of defence. |
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"The defence budget i suspect.
the one that's continually being slashed as they need to make savings?
Osborne got higher than expected tax income, that's why he scrapped the tax credits cuts and axed police spending cuts. Some of the extra money may also now go to the Ministry of defence. "
He scrapped tax credits because he didn't have poltical support for it. His good fortune to have McDonnell as a sparring partner  |
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I'd need to go read the thread. 