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over a year ago
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"French aircraft strike Islamic State Stronghold.
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Hate to break you news but France have been doing air strikes weeks now along with British and America jets |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
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Exactly, people cheer them on when they go to war, then mourn them and say what a terrible thing war is at the cenotaph.
Insane. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"French aircraft strike Islamic State Stronghold.
Hate to break you news but France have been doing air strikes weeks now along with British and America jets "
It's reported this is its the biggest hit they have made in Syria with 20 bombs dropped. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"French aircraft strike Islamic State Stronghold.
Hate to break you news but France have been doing air strikes weeks now along with British and America jets "
It;s why the French are a target |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good."
It;s not good. They might kill some terrorists, they will likely kill more innocent Syrians.
The loss of an innocent life is the loss of an innocent life. It doesn't matter whether that life is a Frenchman enjoying a night out or a Syrian trying to survive in a warzone. The death of innocent's is never a good thing. How can society applaud one and mourn another? We're just creating more extremists and probably many more refugees fleeing their homes
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack. "
It opens up a debate so I'll use the example from the media for people to discuss and analyse as per the nature of forums.
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Let's hope that innocent people are not killed in the air strikes....I don't believe in an eye for an eye...what happened in Paris is heartbreaking but you can't complete air strikes and not kill those who are not in the war of terrorism |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good.
It;s not good. They might kill some terrorists, they will likely kill more innocent Syrians.
The loss of an innocent life is the loss of an innocent life. It doesn't matter whether that life is a Frenchman enjoying a night out or a Syrian trying to survive in a warzone. The death of innocent's is never a good thing. How can society applaud one and mourn another? We're just creating more extremists and probably many more refugees fleeing their homes
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You're right! Let's campaign for capitulation! It certainly worked in the late 1930's! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let's hope that innocent people are not killed in the air strikes....I don't believe in an eye for an eye...what happened in Paris is heartbreaking but you can't complete air strikes and not kill those who are not in the war of terrorism "
You're right as well! Let's send in the Army! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack.
It opens up a debate so I'll use the example from the media for people to discuss and analyse as per the nature of forums.
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And now more innocent people will die!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack.
It opens up a debate so I'll use the example from the media for people to discuss and analyse as per the nature of forums.
And now more innocent people will die!!"
Guess what? You're right as well! |
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"It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack.
It opens up a debate so I'll use the example from the media for people to discuss and analyse as per the nature of forums.
And now more innocent people will die!!
Guess what? You're right as well! "
I hint a tad of sarcasm in your responses |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's been reported due to what's happened in Paris.
But they have been dropping bombs in Syria prior to British jets.
Don't believe everything the press say! They are trying to sensationalise it because of the terror attack.
It opens up a debate so I'll use the example from the media for people to discuss and analyse as per the nature of forums.
And now more innocent people will die!!"
This is the sad reality of violence, hatred, corruption and war. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?"
Bearing in mind they all hate the western world only slightly less than they hate each other.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
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So very true our fist instinct is to lash out with anger and violence.
The western countries and Russia have been bombing IS targets in the middle east for weeks , months . Sadly civilians have been killed
Our thoughts are with the families in France , Europe and the middle east of innocent people who have been caught up in this horrible conflict |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Time to open our eyes and move forward. The children deserve a better future than what is coming. It's about time we solved the problems with real solutions and not for profit.
The Venus project, Jacques Fresco. This would be a much better future for the children and everyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?"
I haven't got a clue how to stop it, the harder the airstrikes against isis or by sending in ground troops (which I cant see happening for a while) will just make them fight back more, kill more innocent people.
I used to be of the mind frame stick a nuclear bomb on countries and blow them all up sure fire way to end it all.
But now I don't think this is the answer its too late for that as they have there cells in too many countries ready to hit back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?
Bacon sandwiches for everyone...
ha ha ha "
Actually there is no solution. We're far to civilized and they're far too primative for there ever to be a lasting peace. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?"
No idea how we stop it. But bombing the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't really achieve much with regards to peace did it? |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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The sad truth is it can't be stopped. The airstrikes, the Iraq milita and Kurds are starting to slowly destroy ISIS as a Caliphate. This will have the unfortunate effect of splintering IS and leading them to try ever more desperate acts such as the one in Paris. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Pork extract in explosives and ak47 ammunition?"
I read an article by a lateral thinker that said something along the lines of give them all a diet high in Marmite. The vitamin D it contains would go a long way to making the population of the middle east far less aggressive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?
Bacon sandwiches for everyone...
ha ha ha
Actually there is no solution. We're far to civilized and they're far too primative for there ever to be a lasting peace."
Until they can sort out which version of "How to survive living in a hot climate with no refrigerator and no condoms" is the best edition they're all fucked anyway. Arm all of them equally, then buy petrol off the winners. It's what us westerners do.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?
No idea how we stop it. But bombing the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't really achieve much with regards to peace did it?"
So you say, but girls can be educated in more schools than ever before. And if we dont educate these opium farmers then there's really no hope for them is there?
The only soloution. Ban religion. Stop buying arab oil. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?
No idea how we stop it. But bombing the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't really achieve much with regards to peace did it?"
Me and my dad had this discussion yesterday. We agreed that although the likes of Hussein and Gadaffi were monsters they managed to maintain stability in their countries. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
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I'd happily live on my own tiny island with my nearest and dearest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
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India/pakistan? North and south korea?..... |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
Exactly, people cheer them on when they go to war, then mourn them and say what a terrible thing war is at the cenotaph.
Insane."
I'm thinking,flower power ain't gonna make this problem go away.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
India/pakistan? North and south korea?....."
And more recently Sudan. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bloody hell . . . I've booked to take my daughter to Euro Disney in January and im debating cancelling it as come January there's likely to be a full on war x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bloody hell . . . I've booked to take my daughter to Euro Disney in January and im debating cancelling it as come January there's likely to be a full on war x"
You'll get your money back if there is. Every cloud eh?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So what's your plan? How are you going to stop the hate?
No idea how we stop it. But bombing the shit out of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't really achieve much with regards to peace did it?
Me and my dad had this discussion yesterday. We agreed that although the likes of Hussein and Gadaffi were monsters they managed to maintain stability in their countries."
There's some truth in this... |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Good.
It;s not good. They might kill some terrorists, they will likely kill more innocent Syrians.
The loss of an innocent life is the loss of an innocent life. It doesn't matter whether that life is a Frenchman enjoying a night out or a Syrian trying to survive in a warzone. The death of innocent's is never a good thing. How can society applaud one and mourn another? We're just creating more extremists and probably many more refugees fleeing their homes
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"Unfortunately this is exactly what ISIS wants, it's part of their strategy. It's only going to make things worse and recruit more terrorists and create more attacks in the West. "
It's the lead up to Christmas do they give a shit....no not really we live in a fucked up world |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good.
It;s not good. They might kill some terrorists, they will likely kill more innocent Syrians.
The loss of an innocent life is the loss of an innocent life. It doesn't matter whether that life is a Frenchman enjoying a night out or a Syrian trying to survive in a warzone. The death of innocent's is never a good thing. How can society applaud one and mourn another? We're just creating more extremists and probably many more refugees fleeing their homes
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately this is exactly what ISIS wants, it's part of their strategy. It's only going to make things worse and recruit more terrorists and create more attacks in the West.
It's the lead up to Christmas do they give a shit....no not really we live in a fucked up world "
What exactly has Christmas got to do with it?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done."
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake |
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"Unfortunately this is exactly what ISIS wants, it's part of their strategy. It's only going to make things worse and recruit more terrorists and create more attacks in the West.
It's the lead up to Christmas do they give a shit....no not really we live in a fucked up world
What exactly has Christmas got to do with it? "
Well do extremists give a shit about Christmas? No they don't there are many things going on entertainment wise and it's an target for them..same as when England won the right to hold the Olympics |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake "
No, but they no daubt know where the strongholds are there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unfortunately this is exactly what ISIS wants, it's part of their strategy. It's only going to make things worse and recruit more terrorists and create more attacks in the West.
It's the lead up to Christmas do they give a shit....no not really we live in a fucked up world
What exactly has Christmas got to do with it?
Well do extremists give a shit about Christmas? No they don't there are many things going on entertainment wise and it's an target for them..same as when England won the right to hold the Olympics "
There should be a facepalm emoticon on here..... |
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"Unfortunately this is exactly what ISIS wants, it's part of their strategy. It's only going to make things worse and recruit more terrorists and create more attacks in the West.
It's the lead up to Christmas do they give a shit....no not really we live in a fucked up world
What exactly has Christmas got to do with it?
Well do extremists give a shit about Christmas? No they don't there are many things going on entertainment wise and it's an target for them..same as when England won the right to hold the Olympics
There should be a facepalm emoticon on here....."
I'm sure you will get over it... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My mum was telling us about being bombed during WW2 and how they used to sit under the stairs. I remember thinking how glad I was that I didn't have that fear. When we drop bombs on places people live there will be parents and children sitting under their stairs feeling scared. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My mum was telling us about being bombed during WW2 and how they used to sit under the stairs. I remember thinking how glad I was that I didn't have that fear. When we drop bombs on places people live there will be parents and children sitting under their stairs feeling scared. "
They wont have the luxury of an air raid siren I'm afraid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Where did ISIS come from? Did it really come from people fed up with drone stokes and those brainwashed by odd YouTube videos? Did it fuck. It came from the worst political decision since Chamberlain decided Hitler was a jolly good chap. The name for the aforementioned policy was "debaathisation" during the occupation of Iraq. Some genius politician decided that it would be a smart idea to take the world's 4th largest army and make them rundundant. Presumably they were going to re-train as supermarket till operators or something but funnily enough they went and got jobs (yes jobs that pay a lot of money) to fight for ISIS. 25/40 senior ISIS leaders are ex-baath commanders - go figure.
What really plays into the terrorist hands is believing that they honestly believe their ridiculous ideology which just happens to make them filthy rich. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
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What did you think evolution was?
Because your statement makes as much sense as saying. "All these years of cheese making and humans still destroy one and other" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
What did you think evolution was?
Because your statement makes as much sense as saying. "All these years of cheese making and humans still destroy one and other""
Neanderthals fought over food and shelter no doubt. Survival of the fittest and all that. We'll always be fighting over something,we just change the weapons and prizes. |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake "
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news. |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news. "
You're in the 'good lets drop bombs see how they like it' camp then as he said above? Doesn't hurt obliterating a few innocents to get what we want I guess! |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
Daily Mail is calling you  "
I don't read the newspapers perhaps you shouldn't either as your being blinded by the bullshit they print.
You have no idea what intelligence governments have with terrorists none of us do.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
You're in the 'good lets drop bombs see how they like it' camp then as he said above? Doesn't hurt obliterating a few innocents to get what we want I guess! "
oh so you know me well enough to comment on my way of thinking do you???? Well as the saying goes you know what assuming does don't you!.
This time you couldn't be further from the truth. |
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By *icky999Man
over a year ago
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news. "
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk  |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
You're in the 'good lets drop bombs see how they like it' camp then as he said above? Doesn't hurt obliterating a few innocents to get what we want I guess!
oh so you know me well enough to comment on my way of thinking do you???? Well as the saying goes you know what assuming does don't you!.
This time you couldn't be further from the truth. "
Then what on earth are you on about?!?! I was disagreeing with his attitude of going in blind taking out innocents?? Try reading what you're commenting on before you jump down someone's neck or go to bed get some bloody sleep woman |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk "
What the base rate of interest there? |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?"
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain? |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
You're in the 'good lets drop bombs see how they like it' camp then as he said above? Doesn't hurt obliterating a few innocents to get what we want I guess!
oh so you know me well enough to comment on my way of thinking do you???? Well as the saying goes you know what assuming does don't you!.
This time you couldn't be further from the truth.
Then what on earth are you on about?!?! I was disagreeing with his attitude of going in blind taking out innocents?? Try reading what you're commenting on before you jump down someone's neck or go to bed get some bloody sleep woman "
Ok first don't tell me what to do or the way to think
Secondly perhaps think about your reactions and the way you have spoken to others on this post because they don't agree with you!
At the end of the day everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it weather we agree or disagree however a level of maturity might be a good idea rather than being abusive or said crap like the daily mail is calling you.
My information comes from friends serving in the forces, and believe you me we know nothing of what is going on in reality.
Plans have been striking Isis strong holds in Syria for weeks now they don't go in willy nilly and bomb the shit out of places for the sake of it. Bombing is very controlled and specific things are targeted, accidents happen from time to time and innocent Syrians get killed but sadly that's war bit like those innocent Russians coming home from holiday or those enjoying there weekend over in Paris.
The reality of war innocent people get killed but would you want to live in a world run by extremists????. I sure as hell wouldn't. |
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It;s not good. They might kill some terrorists, they will likely kill more innocent Syrians.
The loss of an innocent life is the loss of an innocent life. It doesn't matter whether that life is a Frenchman enjoying a night out or a Syrian trying to survive in a warzone. The death of innocent's is never a good thing. How can society applaud one and mourn another? We're just creating more extremists and probably many more refugees fleeing their homes
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over a year ago
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain? "
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain? "
I wonder what their VAT rate is? And income tax come to mention it.. |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain?
I couldn't stay on here after posting something as embarrassing as that. "
I know what you mean. Muslims aren't allowed to charge interest. |
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By *MaleMan
over a year ago
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Bombs are a two way street. Regardless of reason or cause you cannot throw them without expecting something to be thrown back.
As normal the lives taken when something is thrown back wont be those at the heart of warmongering. |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain?
I couldn't stay on here after posting something as embarrassing as that. "
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain?
I couldn't stay on here after posting something as embarrassing as that.
I know what you mean. Muslims aren't allowed to charge interest. "
excellent news! Are they doing mortgages? |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news. "
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain?
I couldn't stay on here after posting something as embarrassing as that.
I know what you mean. Muslims aren't allowed to charge interest.
excellent news! Are they doing mortgages?"
Lloyds bank do specialist mortgages which are interest free for there Muslim customers |
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I'm glad I'm not the one making the decision of wether to increase bombing runs etc.
It's all well and good playing armchair general saying yes we should send more or no we shouldn't, getting into argument abouts it.
When the truth probably is none of us have the slightest clue as to what intelligence the governments have on Isis etc so in the grand scheme of things most of our comments are totally irrelevant 
My last comment is how do you deal with terrorists who have no regard for any life, be it there own or someone else's |
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
I'd happily live on my own tiny island with my nearest and dearest."
That's what we taught we could do on our little island....Then our big neighbour got greedy and decided he wanted to take over our island and caused a lot of pain and bloodshed for our people..... but isn't that what bullies do.Always sticking their noses in other people's business. |
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
I'd happily live on my own tiny island with my nearest and dearest.
That's what we taught we could do on our little island....Then our big neighbour got greedy and decided he wanted to take over our island and caused a lot of pain and bloodshed for our people..... but isn't that what bullies do.Always sticking their noses in other people's business."
British Empire...I'll say no more.
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"... how do you deal with terrorists who have no regard for any life, be it there own or someone else's
THE question we've been debating all day...answer: we have no idea! "
I'm just saying it helps if you don't create them in the first place by making trained killers redundant. |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain?
I couldn't stay on here after posting something as embarrassing as that.
I know what you mean. Muslims aren't allowed to charge interest.
excellent news! Are they doing mortgages?
Lloyds bank do specialist mortgages which are interest free for there Muslim customers "
No they and many other banks do mortgages where the terms are worded in a way as to exclude the word interest. They ceratainly aren't interest free. |
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"Peace through superior firepower.
Just don't mention the Vietnam war.
About time someone got together and made a few more countries where people who believe in one thing can live and if you believe another live in that one. It's been done many times before.
I'd happily live on my own tiny island with my nearest and dearest.
That's what we taught we could do on our little island....Then our big neighbour got greedy and decided he wanted to take over our island and caused a lot of pain and bloodshed for our people..... but isn't that what bullies do.Always sticking their noses in other people's business.
British Empire...I'll say no more.
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Yawn. You know when Syria was a peaceful country for hundreds of years? When the Ottoman empire ruled it. Just saying. |
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
What did you think evolution was?
Because your statement makes as much sense as saying. "All these years of cheese making and humans still destroy one and other""
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"The only sure thing is isis need wiping out, between europe and america theres more than enough firepower, how to do it without taking innocent people out is the problem."
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Do you know why isis exists?
People in a normal society are not born extremists. People are not born with a will to have fun by killing people.
Try imagining what state of mind you need to be in to pull off things like this.
The french have been bombing syria. Killing innocent people. Killing woman and children for weeks but we didnt hear of that. Im sure the number far exceeds what happened in Paris.Is that not terrorism in its own?
If you are born into a society and oppressed. Living with bombs being dropped every day without knowing if you will be alive later. Not knowing if your parents and siblings will be around. Being displaced. You absorb and absorb until you push back.
Why do you think people are leaving? Willing to risks their lives at sea out of hope?
They leaving as much because if the french or any country bombing them as much as isis.
This is not a religious thing. No religion teaches war. Not one not even Islam.
They depicted as jihadis because they muslim but they not. Islam does not condone this behaviour and they probably will not get the heaven as everybody thinks they are.
And when war has destroyed a country, who comes in to rebuild? Big european countries and america?
Think about it every day syrians are dying but nobody cares.
Again what was done in Paris is heinous. Its sad and its a shame but understand the whole story first. Not just what the media portrays.
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"Do you know why isis exists?
People in a normal society are not born extremists. People are not born with a will to have fun by killing people.
Try imagining what state of mind you need to be in to pull off things like this.
The french have been bombing syria. Killing innocent people. Killing woman and children for weeks but we didnt hear of that. Im sure the number far exceeds what happened in Paris.Is that not terrorism in its own?
If you are born into a society and oppressed. Living with bombs being dropped every day without knowing if you will be alive later. Not knowing if your parents and siblings will be around. Being displaced. You absorb and absorb until you push back.
Why do you think people are leaving? Willing to risks their lives at sea out of hope?
They leaving as much because if the french or any country bombing them as much as isis.
This is not a religious thing. No religion teaches war. Not one not even Islam.
They depicted as jihadis because they muslim but they not. Islam does not condone this behaviour and they probably will not get the heaven as everybody thinks they are.
And when war has destroyed a country, who comes in to rebuild? Big european countries and america?
Think about it every day syrians are dying but nobody cares.
Again what was done in Paris is heinous. Its sad and its a shame but understand the whole story first. Not just what the media portrays.
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You don't think the policy of de-ba'athification has anything to do with why ISIS exists? |
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"Do you know why isis exists?
People in a normal society are not born extremists. People are not born with a will to have fun by killing people.
Try imagining what state of mind you need to be in to pull off things like this.
The french have been bombing syria. Killing innocent people. Killing woman and children for weeks but we didnt hear of that. Im sure the number far exceeds what happened in Paris.Is that not terrorism in its own?
If you are born into a society and oppressed. Living with bombs being dropped every day without knowing if you will be alive later. Not knowing if your parents and siblings will be around. Being displaced. You absorb and absorb until you push back.
Why do you think people are leaving? Willing to risks their lives at sea out of hope?
They leaving as much because if the french or any country bombing them as much as isis.
This is not a religious thing. No religion teaches war. Not one not even Islam.
They depicted as jihadis because they muslim but they not. Islam does not condone this behaviour and they probably will not get the heaven as everybody thinks they are.
And when war has destroyed a country, who comes in to rebuild? Big european countries and america?
Think about it every day syrians are dying but nobody cares.
Again what was done in Paris is heinous. Its sad and its a shame but understand the whole story first. Not just what the media portrays.
You don't think the policy of de-ba'athification has anything to do with why ISIS exists? "
Thats a different discussion. Taking isis out is not going to help for as long as there is no peace. People will be driven towards it as long as they luve in war.
Furthermore they never stopped and asked people if they were muslim before they killed them. They didnt care and they wanted to make a statement and they did. |
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"Do you know why isis exists?
People in a normal society are not born extremists. People are not born with a will to have fun by killing people.
Try imagining what state of mind you need to be in to pull off things like this.
The french have been bombing syria. Killing innocent people. Killing woman and children for weeks but we didnt hear of that. Im sure the number far exceeds what happened in Paris.Is that not terrorism in its own?
If you are born into a society and oppressed. Living with bombs being dropped every day without knowing if you will be alive later. Not knowing if your parents and siblings will be around. Being displaced. You absorb and absorb until you push back.
Why do you think people are leaving? Willing to risks their lives at sea out of hope?
They leaving as much because if the french or any country bombing them as much as isis.
This is not a religious thing. No religion teaches war. Not one not even Islam.
They depicted as jihadis because they muslim but they not. Islam does not condone this behaviour and they probably will not get the heaven as everybody thinks they are.
And when war has destroyed a country, who comes in to rebuild? Big european countries and america?
Think about it every day syrians are dying but nobody cares.
Again what was done in Paris is heinous. Its sad and its a shame but understand the whole story first. Not just what the media portrays.
You don't think the policy of de-ba'athification has anything to do with why ISIS exists?
Thats a different discussion. Taking isis out is not going to help for as long as there is no peace. People will be driven towards it as long as they luve in war.
Furthermore they never stopped and asked people if they were muslim before they killed them. They didnt care and they wanted to make a statement and they did."
Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath. |
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"Do you know why isis exists?
People in a normal society are not born extremists. People are not born with a will to have fun by killing people.
Try imagining what state of mind you need to be in to pull off things like this.
The french have been bombing syria. Killing innocent people. Killing woman and children for weeks but we didnt hear of that. Im sure the number far exceeds what happened in Paris.Is that not terrorism in its own?
If you are born into a society and oppressed. Living with bombs being dropped every day without knowing if you will be alive later. Not knowing if your parents and siblings will be around. Being displaced. You absorb and absorb until you push back.
Why do you think people are leaving? Willing to risks their lives at sea out of hope?
They leaving as much because if the french or any country bombing them as much as isis.
This is not a religious thing. No religion teaches war. Not one not even Islam.
They depicted as jihadis because they muslim but they not. Islam does not condone this behaviour and they probably will not get the heaven as everybody thinks they are.
And when war has destroyed a country, who comes in to rebuild? Big european countries and america?
Think about it every day syrians are dying but nobody cares.
Again what was done in Paris is heinous. Its sad and its a shame but understand the whole story first. Not just what the media portrays.
You don't think the policy of de-ba'athification has anything to do with why ISIS exists?
Thats a different discussion. Taking isis out is not going to help for as long as there is no peace. People will be driven towards it as long as they luve in war.
Furthermore they never stopped and asked people if they were muslim before they killed them. They didnt care and they wanted to make a statement and they did.
Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath. "
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not. "
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is? |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
islamic STATE. its a country. three weeks ago it was a country the size of the uk
What the base rate of interest there?
Who is the ISIS ambassador to Britain? "
John something or other I forget now |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is? "
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal. |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal."
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket? |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket? "
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home. |
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
What did you think evolution was?
Because your statement makes as much sense as saying. "All these years of cheese making and humans still destroy one and other""
I soooooo want to say "blessed are the cheesemakers".
But I won't....... |
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"It is good they have increased the bombing, make them feel what they have done.
Are you for real?? Do you honestly think they've got a little pin in a map marked 'terrorists lair' and are dropping bombs on that precise spot? Wake up for fucks sake
I think it's you need to wake up love!!!!
Do you know they haven't got a little map with pins in it????.
Let's face it unless your in the military and know some of the intelligence they do then your really in no place to comment either.
The French, British clearly have intelligence to know where Isis could be hiding in Syria otherwise how did they know exactly where jihad Jon was at the specific time the drone took him out.
They know far more than any of us do from reading the tripe in the news.
You're in the 'good lets drop bombs see how they like it' camp then as he said above? Doesn't hurt obliterating a few innocents to get what we want I guess! "
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home. "
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement. |
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"I always thought ISIS popped up because Sadam Hussein was killed and once he went it created a power vaccume. "
Disbanding his army definately helped. 4th largest in the world at the time. A political decision that farted in the face of the military advice given at the time. |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement. "
How many strong was the republican guard? |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement.
How many strong was the republican guard?"
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish. "
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle. |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement.
How many strong was the republican guard?
How many strong is ISIS? "
But you said "half a million" ex army. Then you mention the republican guard as if they make up the half million. But google will tell you that they numbered no more than 75000. BEFORE the allies targeted and destroyed them. So...this half million strong well trained army never existed. |
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish.
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle. "
You get to personal. You should take a break. It's ok to be wrong from time to time. |
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish.
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle.
you do know your being trolled? "
Arguing a point is not trolling. |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement.
How many strong was the republican guard?
How many strong is ISIS?
But you said "half a million" ex army. Then you mention the republican guard as if they make up the half million. But google will tell you that they numbered no more than 75000. BEFORE the allies targeted and destroyed them. So...this half million strong well trained army never existed."
Mixing different things here. Approximate half a million ex Iraq army people were made redundant. You implied a large quantity of those were "poorly trained men in uniform". No doubt the 500,000 has a variety of standards but I pointed out that it contains elite units like the RG who are certainly more than poorly trained men in uniform. The CIA estimates ISIS has 20,000 - 50,000 fighters. Using your 75,000 figure we could staff ISIS using just ex-RG members!
My point is that disbanding the world's 4th largest army in an unstable region helped fuel terrorism in the region.
What exactly is your point? |
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish.
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle.
You get to personal. You should take a break. It's ok to be wrong from time to time. "
I'm more than happy to admit when I'm wrong, it would mean I'm learning something new. I just need to see a bit of evidence rather than throw away statements. |
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over a year ago
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish.
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle.
you do know your being trolled?
Arguing a point is not trolling."
when you know your wrong and have been proved wrong on the forum and keep posting petty little coments taking posters coments out of context, that is trolling. |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement.
How many strong was the republican guard?
How many strong is ISIS?
But you said "half a million" ex army. Then you mention the republican guard as if they make up the half million. But google will tell you that they numbered no more than 75000. BEFORE the allies targeted and destroyed them. So...this half million strong well trained army never existed.
Mixing different things here. Approximate half a million ex Iraq army people were made redundant. You implied a large quantity of those were "poorly trained men in uniform". No doubt the 500,000 has a variety of standards but I pointed out that it contains elite units like the RG who are certainly more than poorly trained men in uniform. The CIA estimates ISIS has 20,000 - 50,000 fighters. Using your 75,000 figure we could staff ISIS using just ex-RG members!
My point is that disbanding the world's 4th largest army in an unstable region helped fuel terrorism in the region.
What exactly is your point? "
I can assure you the lionshare are not Iraqi. My point is your point about isis leadership and it's evidence is flawed. Dont write it like it's gospel. Of course it's correct to say that the power vacuum helped the creation of isis. But the majority of the Iraqi army didn't just put a different colour shirt on.
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"I must say, do you always try and belittle everyone you argue with? It's very childish.
Debate using evidence and facts then I'd have nothing to belittle.
you do know your being trolled?
Arguing a point is not trolling.
when you know your wrong and have been proved wrong on the forum and keep posting petty little coments taking posters coments out of context, that is trolling. "
I'm not wrong brave Sir knight... |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home.
Ok well the audience can weight your pub logic with my evidence. All evidence is biased somehow but at least mine is stated properly. If you really think the Republican guard were "poorly skilled men in uniform" then you are indeed displaying poor judgement.
How many strong was the republican guard?
How many strong is ISIS?
But you said "half a million" ex army. Then you mention the republican guard as if they make up the half million. But google will tell you that they numbered no more than 75000. BEFORE the allies targeted and destroyed them. So...this half million strong well trained army never existed.
Mixing different things here. Approximate half a million ex Iraq army people were made redundant. You implied a large quantity of those were "poorly trained men in uniform". No doubt the 500,000 has a variety of standards but I pointed out that it contains elite units like the RG who are certainly more than poorly trained men in uniform. The CIA estimates ISIS has 20,000 - 50,000 fighters. Using your 75,000 figure we could staff ISIS using just ex-RG members!
My point is that disbanding the world's 4th largest army in an unstable region helped fuel terrorism in the region.
What exactly is your point?
I can assure you the lionshare are not Iraqi. My point is your point about isis leadership and it's evidence is flawed. Dont write it like it's gospel. Of course it's correct to say that the power vacuum helped the creation of isis. But the majority of the Iraqi army didn't just put a different colour shirt on.
Where about were you? I didn't see you there?"
Lol, nice try but the exact word I used was that the 25/40 is an "estimate". Not sure how you confused that with "gospel".
This debate has run its course and people can make up their own minds based on what has been presented, goodnight. |
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"Where did ISIS come from? Did it really come from people fed up with drone stokes and those brainwashed by odd YouTube videos? Did it fuck. It came from the worst political decision since Chamberlain decided Hitler was a jolly good chap. The name for the aforementioned policy was "debaathisation" during the occupation of Iraq. Some genius politician decided that it would be a smart idea to take the world's 4th largest army and make them rundundant. Presumably they were going to re-train as supermarket till operators or something but funnily enough they went and got jobs (yes jobs that pay a lot of money) to fight for ISIS. 25/40 senior ISIS leaders are ex-baath commanders - go figure.
What really plays into the terrorist hands is believing that they honestly believe their ridiculous ideology which just happens to make them filthy rich."
Oh yeah. Goodnight. |
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"Where did ISIS come from? Did it really come from people fed up with drone stokes and those brainwashed by odd YouTube videos? Did it fuck. It came from the worst political decision since Chamberlain decided Hitler was a jolly good chap. The name for the aforementioned policy was "debaathisation" during the occupation of Iraq. Some genius politician decided that it would be a smart idea to take the world's 4th largest army and make them rundundant. Presumably they were going to re-train as supermarket till operators or something but funnily enough they went and got jobs (yes jobs that pay a lot of money) to fight for ISIS. 25/40 senior ISIS leaders are ex-baath commanders - go figure.
What really plays into the terrorist hands is believing that they honestly believe their ridiculous ideology which just happens to make them filthy rich.
Oh yeah. Goodnight."
Points for dedication but that was copied and pasted from another thread. If anyone wanted to question the source then I would have glady provided it as I did on this thread. |
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"Where is admin when you need them? I believe I got a ban for far less than the mini war going on in here. 
cha gotta know dem rules "
Rules were made to be broken! Woooooooo! I'm a rebel me. 
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Aliens be watching us like a tv show.
Previously on Earth
more humans killing humans.
Alien commander "we'll just wait, won't be long now til they destroy each other, what a waste of a beautiful planet" |
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Why is it a different discussion? You asked "do you know why ISIS exists?" - in no small part because some bright spark thought it would be clever to take half a million trained killers in the region and make them redundant. Many of whom managed to find well paying employment with... ISIS. Estimates are that 25/40 of ISIS most senior commanders are ex-Ba'ath.
No they're not.
Jeez you must have done well at debating class.
That's an estimate by Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad. Your source is?
Oh you got your evidence from an estimate from a prejudiced (non independent) source. Worth no more than my rebuttal.
Ummm yes it is. So basically you know what's wrong with other people's evidence but don't have any of your own. What do you think half a million unemployed ex-army people are gonna do in the middle east - go retrain to stack shelves in a supermarket?
Poorly skilled men in uniform do not an army make. They make up numbers to impress sabre rattling neighbors. As soon as they can, they go home. "
think you maybe wrong their some of these men fought in both gulf wars and the majority of them see more combat than European troops they are always fighting |
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The 1st step to peace is, take isis out, those people like hitler before them dont deserve a place on this planet, they arent following islam, they arent muslim, they arent any religion, they need taking out, otherwise they will continue to attack and kill inoccent people. |
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"All these years of evolution and yet humans still destroy one another.
Exactly, people cheer them on when they go to war, then mourn them and say what a terrible thing war is at the cenotaph.
Insane."
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