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over a year ago
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle"
Are you talking about wireless on your phone or using a work computer/laptop? |
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle"
I don't know the answer to this but I've been using works wifi connection for 14 years! 
They've not fired me yet!  |
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It very much depends on the size and nature of your employer. Could you answer these questions?:
How big a company, how many employees(computer users)
Have you ever encountered any blocked websites.
Is there an IT support team
Did you have to sign any agreement to access the wireless?
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Be careful on this one if you are using works wifi.
Yes they can sack you if you go against any policies in place that say internet is for works purposes.
Internet websites via wifi can be tracked.
Sometimes companys will give you enough rope to hang yourself and then sack you.. i should know.. i work in computers and see this thing all the time at work
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle"
Yes they can see everything you do on their internet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle
I don't know the answer to this but I've been using works wifi connection for 14 years!
They've not fired me yet! "
Thing is say you do something that means they want you gone.
They will just look at the usual routes.
Check clocking times
Check Internet access logs.
Usually these two can be enough to find something to do a person in |
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Before you get too worried about these things consider this.
When you connect to the wireless, is there a generic code or do you log in with personal credentials. If it's the first option, then the only identification of who you are is the name of your phone.
Did you sign an Internet usage agreement? If not you are unlikely to have broken it.
Do the company have an IT department or a technician, if not then it's unlikely that your traffic is monitored.
If you try and access a Porn Site.... Are you filtered or blocked? If not, it's unlikely that there is any automatic traffic monitoring in place.
Really, it all depends on how big the company's IT infrastructure is.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Before you get too worried about these things consider this.
When you connect to the wireless, is there a generic code or do you log in with personal credentials. If it's the first option, then the only identification of who you are is the name of your phone.
Did you sign an Internet usage agreement? If not you are unlikely to have broken it.
Do the company have an IT department or a technician, if not then it's unlikely that your traffic is monitored.
If you try and access a Porn Site.... Are you filtered or blocked? If not, it's unlikely that there is any automatic traffic monitoring in place.
Really, it all depends on how big the company's IT infrastructure is.
Cal"
What if certain sites (e.g. Fab) are blocked, but when using Opera Mini you can access them. Does this mean they can't see activity when you use that app? |
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle
I don't know the answer to this but I've been using works wifi connection for 14 years!
They've not fired me yet!
Thing is say you do something that means they want you gone.
They will just look at the usual routes.
Check clocking times
Check Internet access logs.
Usually these two can be enough to find something to do a person in"
I've got so much dirt under my hat it's unlikely I'll get fired. If I did, they'd need to buy my silence.
I'm expensive.  |
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Some of these threads are technically wrong.
The company where i work.. i have not put any blocks on any sites but i do monitor usage. Just because you can access certain websites does not mean we give permission to access them. We have pplicies in place where we tell staff internet is for works for works use only |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle
I don't know the answer to this but I've been using works wifi connection for 14 years!
They've not fired me yet!
Thing is say you do something that means they want you gone.
They will just look at the usual routes.
Check clocking times
Check Internet access logs.
Usually these two can be enough to find something to do a person in
I've got so much dirt under my hat it's unlikely I'll get fired. If I did, they'd need to buy my silence.
I'm expensive. "
Always a strong position lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why would you be on a swingers site whilst working ?
Am only kidding of course, I fully understand how addictive Fab can be
I use my data allowance in work, just in case  |
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By *aitinkCouple
over a year ago
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A lot depends on whether or not logging is enabled on the company devices, and even if it isn't, failure to act on iffy sites is not a predictor that they will not in future. Changes in management, or a takeover, or a legal snafu elsewhere could change both their policy and what they do in response to careless surfers.
While they may ignore a history of occasional use they cannot ignore evidence of persistent use particularly if they can show you were using it in company time.
While they may advertise a change in policy over internet use thus giving you fair warning to change your behaviour, they can still get you if they can prove you were surfing on company time. That would be fraud. If you purchased services using the wifi they could get you for bringing the company into disrepute for using their IP, and, bearing in mind that many internet services go over telephony devices there are a whole slew of wire fraud offences they could dream up. They probably wouldn't because it would be cheaper to fire you.
Threatening them would be blackmail and you wouldn't be covered by any whistleblower protections, which are pretty useless anyway, because you committed an offence in the first place.
And be absolutely sure you are using your company wifi not another convenient wifi in range, wherein lies a whole other slew of criminal offences. |
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yes they can see what your accessing at on what device...you will likely have created a device name... say bens iphone? or similar?
they can tell what sites you have logged onto....
a lot will depend on what size company/ it dept or the like pas previously stated in the thread... and also who the internet provider is... as whoever the account holder is is likely at any time to be able to check what devices are connected to their Wi-Fi and what sites have been visited |
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle
I don't know the answer to this but I've been using works wifi connection for 14 years!
They've not fired me yet!
Thing is say you do something that means they want you gone.
They will just look at the usual routes.
Check clocking times
Check Internet access logs.
Usually these two can be enough to find something to do a person in
I've got so much dirt under my hat it's unlikely I'll get fired. If I did, they'd need to buy my silence.
I'm expensive.
Always a strong position lol"
Just to be clear... there would be no blackmail. They just wouldn't take the risk. We both know it.
I'm not committing any offences... I work hard and they're happy for us to access the internet in quiet moments. Provided the work is done they're pretty cool. A lot of us watch TV and when senior management are doing the same it's unlikely they'd not allow it across the company. I'm lucky, we're old school in lots of ways and I love my job so I'm not planning on going anywhere or get fired.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tip. Change your phone's identity yo your bosses name Eg Bill Smiths Samsung or something like that and only log on when he is in the office. He hehe. Or better still that nerdy little medal grabber who always shops people for his own gain. We all have one where we work! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your using your own device no they can't "
That's totally wrong they can and have the right to monitor all network traffic and can acutially read what you are typing on the screen for they want to
Keep fab and work totally separate no shag is worth losing job over
It comes under theft of wifi and usung work equipment for private use and possibly bringing the image of the company into dis repute
Your also paid to work not chat on sex sites
If you worked for me your phone would be off and instantly dismissed if it was on . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there any possibility if I use works Wireless that they can see what sites I visit...eg FAB :D
I'm not very clued up on this tech savvy shizzle"
they absolsutely CAN! I have been IT Manager at several companies  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"yes they can see what your accessing at on what device...you will likely have created a device name... say bens iphone? or similar?
they can tell what sites you have logged onto....
a lot will depend on what size company/ it dept or the like pas previously stated in the thread... and also who the internet provider is... as whoever the account holder is is likely at any time to be able to check what devices are connected to their Wi-Fi and what sites have been visited "
you cannot change the IMEI number though! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If your using your own device no they can't
That's totally wrong they can and have the right to monitor all network traffic and can acutially read what you are typing on the screen for they want to
Keep fab and work totally separate no shag is worth losing job over
It comes under theft of wifi and usung work equipment for private use and possibly bringing the image of the company into dis repute
Your also paid to work not chat on sex sites
If you worked for me your phone would be off and instantly dismissed if it was on . "
TADA! |
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you cannot change the IMEI number though!"
The IMEI number isn't part of the Network packet, The MAC address would be, but then someone would need to know which devices to look at, there isn't an international database of which mac address belongs to who. |
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Yes, I work for a tech company, Facebook and sites like that are restricted on our internet but allowed on wifi.....one girl abused it so the manager has now actually blocked her phone from accessing the wifi, he does this by blocking the MAC address, each device that connects to the Internet has a MAC address |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Belle found fab was blocked at uni on their wifi on her laptop iPad and mobile. However she just got an iPhone and it works!! Why?"
Ever since fab went secure servers my iPhone can connect to Mcdonalds kfc and all pubs wifi |
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The same abilities exist for wireless network management as they do for wired, such that they can view what you're doing over it - subject to it not being encrypted somehow: upon which I know nothing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The same abilities exist for wireless network management as they do for wired, such that they can view what you're doing over it - subject to it not being encrypted somehow: upon which I know nothing."
Further to my previous post if you send anything encrypted over my network that I can't read or access any encrypted information or sites
Or actually use my network for anything apart from work you can
Go home and your p45 will be sent by post
Think of it this way if you were a pilot would you take plane home or use it yourself . If your s banker would you take money home or use it for personal use
Would you take the toilet rol home or your chair to sit on
The answer is no you would not
Have some respect for your employer and more importantly have some respect for yourself
If you want to access personal stuff at work at least have the decency to spend a few pounds and get data on your phone |
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Further to my previous post if you send anything encrypted over my network that I can't read or access any encrypted information or sites
Go home and your p45 will be sent by post"
So, is nobody allowed to access Google, or their web based email ? These will both be encrypted, and you won't be able to see what they're looking at.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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This thread is amusing.
I wonder how many are the ones happy for the government to collect and keep the information on everywhere they've visited but worry about whether work can see the same? 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Further to my previous post if you send anything encrypted over my network that I can't read or access any encrypted information or sites
Go home and your p45 will be sent by post
So, is nobody allowed to access Google, or their web based email ? These will both be encrypted, and you won't be able to see what they're looking at.
Cal"
No you come to work to work not do a catchup Ob your email
What next bringing the ironing in to do or maybe prepare a dinner to take home .
Lots of people are not allowed to use work computer for personal it's not unreasonable
You would' not take a work pc home to use at home each night
And no you can't get Facebook email fab or anything else like that .
As to phones my customers don't want people waking round their premises with phones or checking email or using Internet . They also don't want camera on site .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This thread is amusing.
I wonder how many are the ones happy for the government to collect and keep the information on everywhere they've visited but worry about whether work can see the same?
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Work stuff is different your paid to work if an employer tells you to not use work stuff for personal . It is acceptable that all your websites key strokes passwords and username is recorded .
You don't have permission to do private personal tasks on the PCs all work is business use only . And you have no right of privacy from your boss in your capacity as an employee as the only work you are doing on the PCs is work stuff
It's simple really |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"This thread is amusing.
I wonder how many are the ones happy for the government to collect and keep the information on everywhere they've visited but worry about whether work can see the same?
Work stuff is different your paid to work if an employer tells you to not use work stuff for personal . It is acceptable that all your websites key strokes passwords and username is recorded .
You don't have permission to do private personal tasks on the PCs all work is business use only . And you have no right of privacy from your boss in your capacity as an employee as the only work you are doing on the PCs is work stuff
It's simple really "
I'm not arguing with you. I have never and would never consider using work resources personally and I'm self employed. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Oh Roxy, smacked bum for you "
oooh ow! :D
Well I access via my mobile and I haven't been using the Wifi so Im a well behaved chap and I occasionally have a browse at lunch 
Stay safe! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i really wonder what some people think some time ( not you) you pay someone to work a full day . They spend half the day chatting on Facebook etc checking emails . Costing money for data usage and for Internet usage
Because they have spent half the day not working the amount of money coming in has dropped because they were using Facebook instead of working
Personally I would never charge my customer for something they only received half of but yet some people really think they have the right to do the stuff they can do at home in my time that I am paying them for this checking of email and Facebook and I think that takes the piss
It's no different in my mind than stealing toilet rolls . Bags,
Stationary computers etc etc
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh Roxy, smacked bum for you
oooh ow! :D
Well I access via my mobile and I haven't been using the Wifi so Im a well behaved chap and I occasionally have a browse at lunch
Stay safe!"
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i really wonder what some people think some time ( not you) you pay someone to work a full day . They spend half the day chatting on Facebook etc checking emails . Costing money for data usage and for Internet usage
Because they have spent half the day not working the amount of money coming in has dropped because they were using Facebook instead of working
Personally I would never charge my customer for something they only received half of but yet some people really think they have the right to do the stuff they can do at home in my time that I am paying them for this checking of email and Facebook and I think that takes the piss
It's no different in my mind than stealing toilet rolls . Bags,
Stationary computers etc etc
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So. What about during their breaks, or after their sentence(shift) has finished for the day... or if they come in early, because it will be too early to ring someone before the set off....
Also, do you pay a variable rate for your web connection based on the amount of data used?
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i really wonder what some people think some time ( not you) you pay someone to work a full day . They spend half the day chatting on Facebook etc checking emails . Costing money for data usage and for Internet usage
Because they have spent half the day not working the amount of money coming in has dropped because they were using Facebook instead of working
Personally I would never charge my customer for something they only received half of but yet some people really think they have the right to do the stuff they can do at home in my time that I am paying them for this checking of email and Facebook and I think that takes the piss
It's no different in my mind than stealing toilet rolls . Bags,
Stationary computers etc etc
So. What about during their breaks, or after their sentence(shift) has finished for the day... or if they come in early, because it will be too early to ring someone before the set off....
Also, do you pay a variable rate for your web connection based on the amount of data used?
Cal"
No excuses no exceptions no phones allowed in work. No using work equipment for personal .
The sort of person who takes a job knowing the policy on phones computers etc and delieberately defies it . Is the sort of person that cannot be trusted to not steal and certainly not be trusted to work all day .
It's about trust it's about being able to trust and rely on people to do a fair days work for a fair days pay .
Plenty of jobs don't allow mobile phones or cameras
Why do some people always think they are the exception to the rule and that they are different and have the right to spend time doing personal stuff instead of working .
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There is a lot of naivety on this thread about what can be seen or not when it comes to accessing the Internet. Every device has a unique identifier which is recorded by the network it connected to (regardless whether it's wired or wireless), every network has a unique identifier to connect to the ISP, and every website has a unique identifier - all get linked when a device accesses the site, including times, dates, individual pages accessed etc. Consider it like leaving footprints instead of fingerprints.
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I've always been a believer in "give and take" so many of us give so much than the minimum when we feel that it's reciprocal. On the other hand, if I felt like I was on work duty at a prison I'd only be doing exactly the minimum that was required.
Your definition of trust seems a little one sided.
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"There is a lot of naivety on this thread about what can be seen or not when it comes to accessing the Internet. Every device has a unique identifier which is recorded by the network it connected to (regardless whether it's wired or wireless), every network has a unique identifier to connect to the ISP, and every website has a unique identifier - all get linked when a device accesses the site, including times, dates, individual pages accessed etc. Consider it like leaving footprints instead of fingerprints.
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Whilst this is true, if you don't know which Unique Identifier belongs to what device then it's just like having a set of unknown fingerprints left at the scene.
As I mentioned earlier, there isn't a national register of Mac addresses.
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By (user no longer on site)
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limit acces to registered Mac addresses
Try connecting to my network and your MAC address will be blocked immediately .
i won't give password out anyway so problem solved
I am confused as to why when your working that you feel the need to check email and sex sites or go on Facebook
Why is being able to do these things so important to you |
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"limit acces to registered Mac addresses
Try connecting to my network and your MAC address will be blocked immediately .
i won't give password out anyway so problem solved
I am confused as to why when your working that you feel the need to check email and sex sites or go on Facebook
Why is being able to do these things so important to you "
Are you not working today?
I'm not sure why you're so aggressive about it all.. if you just said that your company has a closed network and nobody accessed your network with personal devices everyone would have accepted that.
Some people's jobs are less taxing than others, and some people like to browse the Internet whilst on their breaks or lunch (like I am now), or for any reason they've a few minutes to kill.
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"This thread is amusing.
I wonder how many are the ones happy for the government to collect and keep the information on everywhere they've visited but worry about whether work can see the same?
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I'm one of those but I don't give a shit who sees what on my phone.
I put the hours in at work, I'm good at my job, I help out of hours, I put in the extra mile and I thank my lucky stars that I don't work for Victor Meldrew up there!
There's taking the piss and there's coming and going. Then there's working for someone who sounds quite angry all the time. 
*waves to boss and MI5 who clearly have fuck all else to do either* |
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