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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. " An oxymoron there. | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there." Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. | |||
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"Dunno about Farage, but I have been predicting this thread ... " Me too. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees." It was on ITV News last night | |||
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"Dunno about Farage, but I have been predicting this thread ... Me too." Me three. Please keep it civil.  | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding" You realise that light paper things tend to survive explosions well as they just get blown away to safety. After a plane crash they frequently find the passports etc scattered about | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees." I think there is. They found a Syrian passport on the remains of a suicide bomber and they know he registered as a refugee on a greek island. | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding You realise that light paper things tend to survive explosions well as they just get blown away to safety. After a plane crash they frequently find the passports etc scattered about" So, and this is only playing devils advocate, there is proof that a refugee was in the area not necessarily that said refugee was the perpetrator of this atrocity? I carry my passport when in a foreign country mainly as it wont get nicked from my hotel room. Could this person not have done the same? | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night" There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. I think there is. They found a Syrian passport on the remains of a suicide bomber and they know he registered as a refugee on a greek island." You are confusing your personal bias with the facts. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. I think there is. They found a Syrian passport on the remains of a suicide bomber and they know he registered as a refugee on a greek island." Still not enough evidence for some. It's not good for the Syrian refugees who aren't terrorists. | |||
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"Before you diss the subject, maybe read whats being reported" That advice should apply equally to the OP. At this moment the French police have publicly identified one French born citizen as one of the terrorists. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed." There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him."
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"Before you diss the subject, maybe read whats being reported That advice should apply equally to the OP. At this moment the French police have publicly identified one French born citizen as one of the terrorists. " And mentioned a refugee coming through Greece in October. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him." They may want to be identified so they can be celebrated by others who share their twisted and warped mentality. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him." I thought that was strange too but then I read a report this morning, I don't know how accurate, that they might have been planning to flee. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I thought that was strange too but then I read a report this morning, I don't know how accurate, that they might have been planning to flee. " True | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him." What was speculated on the news doesn't turn it into fact. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. What was speculated on the news doesn't turn it into fact. " It doesn't automatically mean that it's not either. Personal bias works both ways. Only time will tell. | |||
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"... For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him." So that he can be identified correctly when the 72 virgins are being dished out | |||
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"Before you diss the subject, maybe read whats being reported That advice should apply equally to the OP. At this moment the French police have publicly identified one French born citizen as one of the terrorists. And mentioned a refugee coming through Greece in October. " Mentioned a passport belonging to a refugee. Until they link that document with one of the bodies it doesn't prove anything other than they have a valid line of enquiry. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed." we know that greece confirmed the suicide bomber at the stade de france with the syrian passport passed thru their territory 3 months ago and was processed there.... we know that at least one was a homegrown frenchman.... so before people scream at the refugees people should also look close to home!!!! what it looks like is that at least 1 of the three terror cells in this attack was French nations based in belgium..... which points toward Schengen basically being close to finished if that is case..... | |||
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IF, it does turn out to be true, though?
What, then? | |||
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"Can we move this along a bit? Obviously nothing has been officially confirmed yet, that should be a given, hence the question mark, I used. IF, it does turn out to be true, though? What, then? " | |||
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"Can we move this along a bit? Obviously nothing has been officially confirmed yet, that should be a given, hence the question mark, I used. IF, it does turn out to be true, though? What, then? " hatred towards refugees will heighten by people forgetting that evil lurks in our own people. | |||
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"... For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. So that he can be identified correctly when the 72 virgins are being dished out" 
Maybe it's an ISIS tactic
Get a group of swingers so hot under the collar over a passport that they wage Jihad on each other
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. They may want to be identified so they can be celebrated by others who share their twisted and warped mentality. " This is also possible | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him." I don't know if while you're in France you should always carry your passport? If you do then you don't want to be arrested for not carrying it before you get to your target. | |||
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"Can we move this along a bit? Obviously nothing has been officially confirmed yet, that should be a given, hence the I used.
IF, it does turn out to be true, though?
What, then? "We don't know... how can we comment when so little is known? If it was one Syrian refugee and 7 French nationals or 2 French nationals and 6 Syrian refugees - that's all very different. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I thought that was strange too but then I read a report this morning, I don't know how accurate, that they might have been planning to flee. " I can answer that..... but it is actually a gruesome answer...... what use to happen is that families of suicide bombers in the middle east would end up being paid money... so it was to identify them..... | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. we know that greece confirmed the suicide bomber at the stade de france with the syrian passport passed thru their territory 3 months ago and was processed there.... we know that at least one was a homegrown frenchman.... so before people scream at the refugees people should also look close to home!!!! what it looks like is that at least 1 of the three terror cells in this attack was French nations based in belgium..... which points toward Schengen basically being close to finished if that is case....." If the French police had linked that passport definitively with a terrorist they'd be announcing the name rather than some initials (given they've already announced the name of the French national involved). What they seem to know at the moment is that the passport was used as you said and was found near one of the attacks. That isn't the same as saying that the owner of the passport was one of the terrorists - YET. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I thought that was strange too but then I read a report this morning, I don't know how accurate, that they might have been planning to flee. I can answer that..... but it is actually a gruesome answer...... what use to happen is that families of suicide bombers in the middle east would end up being paid money... so it was to identify them....." That's beyond morbid Fab! | |||
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"Dunno about Farage, but I have been predicting this thread ... Me too." The most predictable of it all is the same old culprits flaming people...it makes reading threads very dull and tiresome | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. What was speculated on the news doesn't turn it into fact. " I must be talking in fork talk this weekend. I didn't say it was fact, I said it was reported | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. " Does it matter if he predicted it or just repeated it? Surely the question is how much of a real threat it is and what can we do about it? | |||
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"France, the UK n USA have committed acts of war, by bombing their country back to the stone age, opening arming their enemies. killing men, women n children at school, in hospitals, at weddings. But when they fight back, u call them the terrorist. Laughable really." They are terrorists laugh all you want. | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts. "Yeah... I was the one who got shot down. And for what??? Everyone is now saying the same bloody thing! Funny how it's good enough for them to agree now but the other night they were out like a lynch mob. Pretty sad to be honest. I always thought bitchiness & cliques were a thing of childhood & school years... Seems not!! | |||
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" I don't know if while you're in France you should always carry your passport? If you do then you don't want to be arrested for not carrying it before you get to your target." I didn't know this when we went to Paris, although we did carry our passports anyway, good job they didn't stop us  | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I don't know if while you're in France you should always carry your passport? If you do then you don't want to be arrested for not carrying it before you get to your target." Given the weapons they were carrying, my guess would be that they'd be fairly indifferent about being stopped for carrying no ID. Of course that's just a guess. | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts. "Very true! I think maybe there should be apologies to these people who were treated so badly. Eh admin? | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man." IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I don't know if while you're in France you should always carry your passport? If you do then you don't want to be arrested for not carrying it before you get to your target. Given the weapons they were carrying, my guess would be that they'd be fairly indifferent about being stopped for carrying no ID. Of course that's just a guess." Be a bummer if you were locked up while going to your weapons cache for not having an ID though and throwing it all off kilter. Attention to detail. Its the little things that have caught people out before. Son of Sam was caught because he got a parking ticket. Anyway at this point it's all conjecture. | |||
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"... For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. So that he can be identified correctly when the 72 virgins are being dished out" This always amuses me. 72 Virgins..... I'd rather have 10 fully fledged swingers... One even. | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! " Yes and that is right, could be of any country they come from even yes john who was against his own. | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian." No more chocolate for me then. | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding" A Syrian passport has been found close to the body of one of the suicide bombers. Whilst I accept that it could have been planted either by ISIS itself or some other organisation that has an interest in ratcheting up tension against migrants, it still begs the question, who are these refugees and are we being duly diligent in making sure that all those who claim to be refugees are genuinely refugees and don't have a darker, more sinister motive for wanting to get into Europe. This has been a concern of mine since the refugee crisis started. | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! " Where did the Indian Muslims come into this? | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. What was speculated on the news doesn't turn it into fact. I must be talking in fork talk this weekend. I didn't say it was fact, I said it was reported" Then, given the information available, a leap too far was made based on what could be legitimately reported... that's speculation and leads to unjustifiable titles to threads like this. What's fork talk? | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. Does it matter if he predicted it or just repeated it? Surely the question is how much of a real threat it is and what can we do about it?" That was the OPs question so I gave my answer!
What can we do about it? I don't know.
I said in previous threads that the UK plan was originally to take refugees from Lebanon and Jordan who had claimed assylum from the beginning of the conflict, that way you know that the people really have fled the trouble - so if Europe is to keep accepting refugees then that's the best plan I think.
If Europe is going to stop accepting refugees then some solutions are; to let the boats drown, to annex part of Syria as a refugee zone, throw money and infrastructure provision at Jordan to expand their camps, or do nothing at all. | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then." We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. | |||
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"France, the UK n USA have committed acts of war, by bombing their country back to the stone age, opening arming their enemies. killing men, women n children at school, in hospitals, at weddings. But when they fight back, u call them the terrorist. Laughable really." Stone Age bombs.... ? | |||
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"The G is reporting that 2 of the terrorists 'were from Brussels'. I don't know if that means resident or what. " *resists a sprout shortage comment........ | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night There is a very big difference between 'believed to be', which is what was actually reported, and confirmed. There is....but the subject was discussed on the NEWS that one of the terrorists could be a refugee who came through Greece on 3rd October .People will make their own mind up until it is confirmed but we can't blame people for discussing it. For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. I don't know if while you're in France you should always carry your passport? If you do then you don't want to be arrested for not carrying it before you get to your target. Given the weapons they were carrying, my guess would be that they'd be fairly indifferent about being stopped for carrying no ID. Of course that's just a guess." I'm sure they were concealed until wanted. You wouldn't want to give anyone a chance to search your car if you had a boot full of Kalashnikov. | |||
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"The G is reporting that 2 of the terrorists 'were from Brussels'. I don't know if that means resident or what. *resists a sprout shortage comment........" Is Christmas dinner ruined? | |||
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" What's fork talk? " The same as fork tongue without the autocarrot | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts.
Very true! I think maybe there should be apologies to these people who were treated so badly. Eh admin? "I raised it on one of those threads. I wasn't shot down. The people who were shot down on those threads were the ones who seemed incapable of showing any human compassion for others in distress. | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding You realise that light paper things tend to survive explosions well as they just get blown away to safety. After a plane crash they frequently find the passports etc scattered about So, and this is only playing devils advocate, there is proof that a refugee was in the area not necessarily that said refugee was the perpetrator of this atrocity? I carry my passport when in a foreign country mainly as it wont get nicked from my hotel room. Could this person not have done the same?" I'm not claiming it's anything just refuting your claims that passports don't survive explosions because ether get damaged by the completely different force a involved in say being chewed by a dog | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts.
Yeah... I was the one who got shot down. And for what??? Everyone is now saying the same bloody thing! Funny how it's good enough for them to agree now but the other night they were out like a lynch mob.
Pretty sad to be honest. I always thought bitchiness & cliques were a thing of childhood & school years... Seems not!!"Did you take names from the last thread and match them up with this thread? How many posters are mind changers? How many are different posters ? | |||
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"I didn't know this when we went to Paris, although we did carry our passports anyway, good job they didn't stop us "same in Greece you must carry ID passport or driving licence.  | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding A Syrian passport has been found close to the body of one of the suicide bombers. Whilst I accept that it could have been planted either by ISIS itself or some other organisation that has an interest in ratcheting up tension against migrants, it still begs the question, who are these refugees and are we being duly diligent in making sure that all those who claim to be refugees are genuinely refugees and don't have a darker, more sinister motive for wanting to get into Europe. This has been a concern of mine since the refugee crisis started." Kudos, for attempting to steer this thread back on track. | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! " Indian Muslims ? When did India get involved ? | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Yes and that is right, could be of any country they come from even yes john who was against his own." Yes they come from all walks of life, Quite scary really to think they could be anywhere. | |||
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"The G is reporting that 2 of the terrorists 'were from Brussels'. I don't know if that means resident or what. *resists a sprout shortage comment........ Is Christmas dinner ruined? "I'll open a tin of peas. | |||
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"I didn't know this when we went to Paris, although we did carry our passports anyway, good job they didn't stop us
same in Greece you must carry ID passport or driving licence. "I'm not sure the laws of the land were uppermost in any of their minds as they slaughtered all those people! I always try and resist propoganda both ways. Not easy though. | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Indian Muslims ? When did India get involved ? " Fuck sake. Didn't know we had to be geographically correct to perfection before posting. My point was that the media portray IS terrorists to be of Pakistani/Indian colour. Black hair. Long black beards. Brown skin. The head hear etc. This is not always the case. There are loads of British jihadists. French Jihadists... The list goes on they are every where | |||
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"The G is reporting that 2 of the terrorists 'were from Brussels'. I don't know if that means resident or what. *resists a sprout shortage comment........ Is Christmas dinner ruined?
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Where did the Indian Muslims come into this? " I think she is saying that IS terrorists aren't just the "stereotypical" muslim that most people think of. They are from all walks of life & wouldn't be easily spotted in a crowd. This organisation is possibly the biggest threat to western civilisation ever seen & if we don't close our borders NOW then our way of life could be finished! Stop arguing amongst ourselves and pay attention to what is happening & just maybe this "kingdom" could be united again! Rule Brittania ring any bells? | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. " it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again.... | |||
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Indian Muslims ? When did India get involved ? Fuck sake. Didn't know we had to be geographically correct to perfection before posting. My point was that the media portray IS terrorists to be of Pakistani/Indian colour. Black hair. Long black beards. Brown skin. The head hear etc. This is not always the case. There are loads of British jihadists. French Jihadists... The list goes on they are every where " No one said anything about your Geography. I asked when india got involved. The correct responses are ... 1. last week ( or similar ) 2. They are not. or 3. Ooops my mistake. For Fuck's Sake is permissable in certain circumstances tho... | |||
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"The G is reporting that 2 of the terrorists 'were from Brussels'. I don't know if that means resident or what. *resists a sprout shortage comment........ Is Christmas dinner ruined?
I'll open a tin of peas.
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe" love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"??? | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again.... "Phew! I thought i'd have to go all neutral and put up with those Swiss mountain things. | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again.... "That's a weight of my mind and back on my belly. | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"??? "Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ? | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts.
Yeah... I was the one who got shot down. And for what??? Everyone is now saying the same bloody thing! Funny how it's good enough for them to agree now but the other night they were out like a lynch mob.
Pretty sad to be honest. I always thought bitchiness & cliques were a thing of childhood & school years... Seems not!!
Did you take names from the last thread and match them up with this thread?
How many posters are mind changers? How many are different posters ? "I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"??? "4 might be French I think? The 8th man being hunted is French according to French media. | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding A Syrian passport has been found close to the body of one of the suicide bombers. Whilst I accept that it could have been planted either by ISIS itself or some other organisation that has an interest in ratcheting up tension against migrants, it still begs the question, who are these refugees and are we being duly diligent in making sure that all those who claim to be refugees are genuinely refugees and don't have a darker, more sinister motive for wanting to get into Europe. This has been a concern of mine since the refugee crisis started." Indeed. Of course it would also be equally legitimate to wonder whether or not the person who this passport belonged to had the bad luck to be a victim of terrorists? | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Where did the Indian Muslims come into this? I think she is saying that IS terrorists aren't just the "stereotypical" muslim that most people think of. They are from all walks of life & wouldn't be easily spotted in a crowd. This organisation is possibly the biggest threat to western civilisation ever seen & if we don't close our borders NOW then our way of life could be finished! Stop arguing amongst ourselves and pay attention to what is happening & just maybe this "kingdom" could be united again! Rule Brittania ring any bells? " Possibly. Most muslims I know are Islamic and from Middle East. Most Indians I know are Hindu. | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
Be careful Hun.... Or be prepared rather. "What do you mean .. be careful ? | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again.... "But I don't care for Belgium chocolate.  | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
Be careful Hun.... Or be prepared rather.
What do you mean .. be careful ?"The mere mention of these terrorists being anything other than whiter than white & you will get shot down in flames on here.... Happens every time, | |||
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
"You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair. | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again....
But I don't care for Belgium chocolate. "Careful now that post can be construed as your intolerant.  | |||
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"It's just been revealed that two were Belgian. No more chocolate for me then. We have a Belgium chip shop in the next village. I'm not going there till this whole thing blows over. it looks as if they are "french nationals" based in belgium..... you may eat belgium chocolate again....
But I don't care for Belgium chocolate.
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding A Syrian passport has been found close to the body of one of the suicide bombers. Whilst I accept that it could have been planted either by ISIS itself or some other organisation that has an interest in ratcheting up tension against migrants, it still begs the question, who are these refugees and are we being duly diligent in making sure that all those who claim to be refugees are genuinely refugees and don't have a darker, more sinister motive for wanting to get into Europe. This has been a concern of mine since the refugee crisis started. Indeed. Of course it would also be equally legitimate to wonder whether or not the person who this passport belonged to had the bad luck to be a victim of terrorists?" You are, of course, correct but, if I was the head of ISIS I would definitely have tried to smuggle a few operatives in with the flood of refugees flocking into Europe. Now there is evidence which, on first sight, seems to suggest they have. The questions have to be asked and, whilst showing compassion for genuine refugees, we have to be diligent too. | |||
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair."No. I got pissed off because I replied to a guy who said about terrorists getting into Europe through refugee boats etc. I replied to him that there was photo's of known Isis fighters spotted in the crowds with the refugees & everyone decided to take it upon themselves that I was blaming refugees?! When it was in clear black & white that I never said anything of the sort. Then you called me a liar when I heard on bbc news Friday night that Isis were claiming the attack as theirs. Then today you are writing the same thing. You even had a go at a guy because he contradicted your post about what you saw on your to in your front room. Because he didn't see/hear exactly what you did. It's definitely double standards! | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
Be careful Hun.... Or be prepared rather.
What do you mean .. be careful ?
The mere mention of these terrorists being anything other than whiter than white & you will get shot down in flames on here.... Happens every time, "Ahhhhh Gotcha xx People may shoot but I never go down. Ooooo sounds like a pervy joke. | |||
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair."Possibly yourself & a few others should read over your comments from said thread? She was put down for her opinion, which turned out to be correct & none of you have apologised. If I'm in the wrong, I admit it when faced with facts. Shame others can't do the same eh? | |||
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"1 refugee so far is a terrorist so let's close our borders to all the 10's of thousands of in dire need.... Over 400 British citizens have returned from Syria and are known to have been in contact with I.S. Hundreds more are still out there and can come back whenever they like.... Just saying. " In MY personal opinion if you are a British Citizen and you leave the U.K to join Isis you should never be allowed back. | |||
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair.
No. I got pissed off because I replied to a guy who said about terrorists getting into Europe through refugee boats etc. I replied to him that there was photo's of known Isis fighters spotted in the crowds with the refugees & everyone decided to take it upon themselves that I was blaming refugees?! When it was in clear black & white that I never said anything of the sort.
Then you called me a liar when I heard on bbc news Friday night that Isis were claiming the attack as theirs. Then today you are writing the same thing. You even had a go at a guy because he contradicted your post about what you saw on your to in your front room. Because he didn't see/hear exactly what you did.
It's definitely double standards!"I didn't call you a liar. I said I hadn't seen them mention a refugee terrorist until the next days news. You chose to get defensive and take it that was me calling you a liar. Please stop this twisting peoples words and bringing anything that you are reading wrong onto other threads. | |||
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"Are people actually in fear? Or just hoping others are? I'm not overly concerned. I'm no more in fear than I was before Paris. " Good to know. It's not war on the streets here yet and I would think it unlikely to be so. Terrible as it was there are far bigger killers out there that are easier to prevent. | |||
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
Be careful Hun.... Or be prepared rather.
What do you mean .. be careful ?
The mere mention of these terrorists being anything other than whiter than white & you will get shot down in flames on here.... Happens every time,
Ahhhhh Gotcha xx
People may shoot but I never go down.
Ooooo sounds like a pervy joke.
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"Proves the Camaron policy with migrants may seem hard but it the correct policy. If a man like Corbyn got in we would have similar problems to France. The first job of government is to defend its people above all else. The French and German goverments are stupid and weak,a good reason for getting out of Europe love the soundbite.... straight from the daily mail... but how do you work the rest of your diatribe out if we know know at least 3 of the 7 suicide bombers are french and in effect "homegrown"???
Displacement ? Disaffection ? Where are their grans n grandads from ....what's their race rather than their nationality ? Where do they feel they belong ?
Be careful Hun.... Or be prepared rather.
What do you mean .. be careful ?
The mere mention of these terrorists being anything other than whiter than white & you will get shot down in flames on here.... Happens every time, "She's not said they are whiter than white and I don't think anyone else has either. The question being raised is how diligent we have or haven't been in allowing refugees into Europe, some of whom may actually be ISIS terrorists. My personal feeling is that we have not been diligent enough. I believed that before this attack and, even if it turns out that no refugees were involved, I'll still believe were not being diligent enough against a real and present threat. | |||
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair.
Possibly yourself & a few others should read over your comments from said thread?
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" I did actually.
Point is the P.C brigade was out in force the other night & tried to give me a hard time for saying something which I watched on bbc news. Now they are writing the same things in threads a day later!
Double standards & hypocrisy!!
You had the hump on the other thread for other things more than who had seen what on the News and took great offence when said people had said they hadn't seen it. It is not quite the same thing as you are describing to be fair.
No. I got pissed off because I replied to a guy who said about terrorists getting into Europe through refugee boats etc. I replied to him that there was photo's of known Isis fighters spotted in the crowds with the refugees & everyone decided to take it upon themselves that I was blaming refugees?! When it was in clear black & white that I never said anything of the sort.
Then you called me a liar when I heard on bbc news Friday night that Isis were claiming the attack as theirs. Then today you are writing the same thing. You even had a go at a guy because he contradicted your post about what you saw on your to in your front room. Because he didn't see/hear exactly what you did.
It's definitely double standards!
I didn't call you a liar. I said I hadn't seen them mention a refugee terrorist until the next days news. You chose to get defensive and take it that was me calling you a liar.
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"One of them who did it was a french man. IS terrorists aren't just Indian Muslims you know... Look at Jihadi John. He was British!!! Indian Muslims ? When did India get involved ? Fuck sake. Didn't know we had to be geographically correct to perfection before posting. My point was that the media portray IS terrorists to be of Pakistani/Indian colour. Black hair. Long black beards. Brown skin. The head hear etc. This is not always the case. There are loads of British jihadists. French Jihadists... The list goes on they are every where " Syrian surely? | |||
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"Discuss... " pull hair? scratch fellow forumnites eyes out, spit kick, punch, and be generally mean and horrid you mean? | |||
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"Are people actually in fear? Or just hoping others are? I'm not overly concerned. I'm no more in fear than I was before Paris. Good to know. It's not war on the streets here yet and I would think it unlikely to be so. Terrible as it was there are far bigger killers out there that are easier to prevent. " When I was growing up my step-dad slept with a gun under his pillow and had to check under our cars for bombs. The threat of terror isn't unfamiliar to me sadly. | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. " short memories round ere. people were arguing about whether suicide bombers could swim because they were brought up in the desert. | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. short memories round ere. people were arguing about whether suicide bombers could swim because they were brought up in the desert. " I can't have a short memory over something I haven't read. | |||
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"Well if I ever lose my passport I will make sure I ask the Security Services as they seem to be able to find them so easily.... I am also safe in the knowledge it will withstand a bomb blast and burning although the dog managed to put his teeth through mine. Do people really think, in the mind of a lunatic, they have "remember passport" on terrorist checklist? This post is not lightening ANYTHING that happened last Friday but some things stretch my understanding A Syrian passport has been found close to the body of one of the suicide bombers. Whilst I accept that it could have been planted either by ISIS itself or some other organisation that has an interest in ratcheting up tension against migrants, it still begs the question, who are these refugees and are we being duly diligent in making sure that all those who claim to be refugees are genuinely refugees and don't have a darker, more sinister motive for wanting to get into Europe. This has been a concern of mine since the refugee crisis started. Indeed. Of course it would also be equally legitimate to wonder whether or not the person who this passport belonged to had the bad luck to be a victim of terrorists? You are, of course, correct but, if I was the head of ISIS I would definitely have tried to smuggle a few operatives in with the flood of refugees flocking into Europe. Now there is evidence which, on first sight, seems to suggest they have. The questions have to be asked and, whilst showing compassion for genuine refugees, we have to be diligent too." That's a _iewpoint that I've consistently agreed with both in terms of due diligence and compassion. What I don't agree with is leaping to conclusions without any evidence at all or by totally distorting the facts. That's not aimed at you at all although there's plenty of it going on. | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. short memories round ere. people were arguing about whether suicide bombers could swim because they were brought up in the desert. I can't have a short memory over something I haven't read. " But if you did have a short memory would you know if you read it? | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. short memories round ere. people were arguing about whether suicide bombers could swim because they were brought up in the desert. I can't have a short memory over something I haven't read. But if you did have a short memory would you know if you read it? "Yes | |||
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"When we had the plethora of refugee threads a while back the point was raised about terrorists posing as refugees. The persons raising it got shot down and accused of all sorts.
Yeah... I was the one who got shot down. And for what??? Everyone is now saying the same bloody thing! Funny how it's good enough for them to agree now but the other night they were out like a lynch mob.
Pretty sad to be honest. I always thought bitchiness & cliques were a thing of childhood & school years... Seems not!!"I'm curious as to whether you read my response to you the other night. I fear you are putting me in that bracket because you misread what I wrote. | |||
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"... For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. So that he can be identified correctly when the 72 virgins are being dished out
Maybe it's an ISIS tactic
Get a group of swingers so hot under the collar over a passport that they wage Jihad on each other
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night" It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. | |||
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" For me, I can't understand why a killer who was probably going to be killed or kill himself would remember to take his passport with him. They may want to be identified so they can be celebrated by others who share their twisted and warped mentality. " And to spread fear and create tension in the countries where the refugees have travelled to.. | |||
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"I've just put the news on and looks like it kicking off again in Paris. Can't work out what's happening " There's been issues in Brussels too from what I can gather. It's confusing at the moment. I'm not really sure what's going on either.  | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. " Because newspapers have never been wrong, and never had to print retractions and apologies, ever. To be fair, I don't think anyone thought at the time this wasn't Isis. The timing was too perfect, the MO too familiar. I think what people were refuting was the fact that the refugees were being blamed, whether for doing it, or for shielding those who did it. Also, I don't think its wrong to refrain from making accusations until concrete evidence is provided. Wild conjecture just ends up in misinformation being spread. And that counts for both sides of this particular argument. | |||
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"I've just put the news on and looks like it kicking off again in Paris. Can't work out what's happening There's been issues in Brussels too from what I can gather. It's confusing at the moment. I'm not really sure what's going on either. "It seems the police were doing an evacuation and people panicked thinking something else was happening. The police didn't want people congregating there anyway by the looks of it. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Because newspapers have never been wrong, and never had to print retractions and apologies, ever. To be fair, I don't think anyone thought at the time this wasn't Isis. The timing was too perfect, the MO too familiar. I think what people were refuting was the fact that the refugees were being blamed, whether for doing it, or for shielding those who did it. Also, I don't think its wrong to refrain from making accusations until concrete evidence is provided. Wild conjecture just ends up in misinformation being spread. And that counts for both sides of this particular argument." I don't think people are blaming the refuges but pointing out that crowds of hundreds of thousands of people living unchecked across borders is an easy route for fighters to pass through undetected. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. " It's to be hoped that the people carrying out the investigation use valid evidence to come to valid conclusions. Meanwhile, everyone else is guessing no matter how beautiful their simple arithmetic appears. You might be right, you might be wrong. No matter how certain you feel about it, you just don't know unless of course you've magically become part of the investigation team. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. " Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. | |||
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"France, the UK n USA have committed acts of war, by bombing their country back to the stone age, opening arming their enemies. killing men, women n children at school, in hospitals, at weddings. But when they fight back, u call them the terrorist. Laughable really." So when they retaliate and kill your family and friends, all is good? | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. " As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing." Can only Syrians be Islamic terrorists? Not french or Belgian Muslims? | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing. Can only Syrians be Islamic terrorists? Not french or Belgian Muslims? " Check the title of this thread? | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing. Can only Syrians be Islamic terrorists? Not french or Belgian Muslims? Check the title of this thread?" But the man you quoted was talking about them being Islamic terrorists and you attempted to refute him by bringing up their nationality. A person can be any nationality and Islamic. I think the Allah akbar cries during the attacks quite clearly indicated the perpetrators | |||
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"How did he predict it when IS said it? He was just repeating what they had said. An oxymoron there. Did anyone think it was open to interpretation? Otherwise it was stating the obvious, not 'predicting'. short memories round ere. people were arguing about whether suicide bombers could swim because they were brought up in the desert. I can't have a short memory over something I haven't read. " then keep your beak out if you havent got a clue what your talking about. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing. Can only Syrians be Islamic terrorists? Not french or Belgian Muslims? Check the title of this thread? But the man you quoted was talking about them being Islamic terrorists and you attempted to refute him by bringing up their nationality. A person can be any nationality and Islamic. I think the Allah akbar cries during the attacks quite clearly indicated the perpetrators " And by what miracle of logic does that mean that the person who shouted it was a migrant who registered as a refugee in Greece? It could have been any one of the murderers. Besides, please try to read what I wrote about it not what you think I wrote. Repeatedly on the issue of the Syrian passport and on the topic of this thread I have made the point that until the authorities state that they've linked the passport to one of the murderers then the whole Syrian link is pure speculation. That link may be proved when there's some evidence found, but people making guesses here is misleading. I've also repeatedly said that the only person identified by name (at the time of writing) was a French national. Now they have identified some other French nationals and have stated a connection with Belgium. There is STILL no positive evidence announced linking the holder of the Syrian passport to any of the terrorists no matter what speculation news papers or people on this site come up with. When there is evidence then it would be appropriate to comment on that. In the meanwhile it's a guessing game. Fortunately the French police seem to be adopting a more intelligent approach to what needs to be done as part of their investigation. | |||
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"Where do you get this information? The only terrorist identified so far was a French citizen. There is currently no proof that any of the terrorists were refugees. It was on ITV News last night It has also been printed on the front page of some newspapers today that at least one of the attackers had registered as a refugee in Greece some months ago, if it's not true then some newspapers are going to look pretty stupid when they have to print apologies for untruthful reporting. However maybe they put 2 and 2 together and came up with the answer of 4, just like people did on here the other night when they said it would be isis responsible for the Paris attacks before that fact was known. Some people on here and it always seems to be the same "usual suspects" often put 2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5 though. Waiting for official confirmation of something is not putting "2 and 2 together and come up with 3 or 5" - to claim that it is however is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 3 or 5. And it's always the usual suspects. Sometimes things are so blindingly obvious you don't have to wait for official confirmation. Some people said on the forum the other night that Islamic extremists would be responsible for the Paris attacks (before isis had claimed responsibility) and they were shouted down for saying so. In fact someone told them to "shut up" making wild accusations. Well it turned out those saying Islamic extremists were responsible turned out to be right. As of the news at 7:30pm the French authorities still haven't made an announcement about the holder of the Syrian passport although they have named French and Belgian suspects. It's obviously not blindingly obvious to them and they seem to know what they are doing. Can only Syrians be Islamic terrorists? Not french or Belgian Muslims? Check the title of this thread? But the man you quoted was talking about them being Islamic terrorists and you attempted to refute him by bringing up their nationality. A person can be any nationality and Islamic. I think the Allah akbar cries during the attacks quite clearly indicated the perpetrators And by what miracle of logic does that mean that the person who shouted it was a migrant who registered as a refugee in Greece? It could have been any one of the murderers. Besides, please try to read what I wrote about it not what you think I wrote. Repeatedly on the issue of the Syrian passport and on the topic of this thread I have made the point that until the authorities state that they've linked the passport to one of the murderers then the whole Syrian link is pure speculation. That link may be proved when there's some evidence found, but people making guesses here is misleading. I've also repeatedly said that the only person identified by name (at the time of writing) was a French national. Now they have identified some other French nationals and have stated a connection with Belgium. There is STILL no positive evidence announced linking the holder of the Syrian passport to any of the terrorists no matter what speculation news papers or people on this site come up with. When there is evidence then it would be appropriate to comment on that. In the meanwhile it's a guessing game. Fortunately the French police seem to be adopting a more intelligent approach to what needs to be done as part of their investigation." By what mircical of English did I say he was a migrant registered in Greece. | |||
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