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"how long space goes on for.." Me too and what is after its finished | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney"* The beginning of life - need more info * After death - nothing, imo * Dark matter - again my opinion is that we've misunderstood something fundamental about the nature of the universe and we're attempting to fit what we see with what we think we know. Maybe we just don't know * Quantum theory? That's a whole 'nother post in itself  | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney
* The beginning of life - need more info
* After death - nothing, imo
* Dark matter - again my opinion is that we've misunderstood something fundamental about the nature of the universe and we're attempting to fit what we see with what we think we know. Maybe we just don't know
* Quantum theory? That's a whole 'nother post in itself "But I'm talking about things you don't have the answer to, Oh Knowing One. What would you like to know? -Courtney | |||
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"how long space goes on for.. Me too and what is after its finished" its probably just a long never ending darkness filled with stars and other planets with god knows what lurking around.... just remember in space no one can hear you scream  | |||
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"I wanna know when the DFS sale will actually finish "Now that really IS unknowable. | |||
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"how long space goes on for.. Me too and what is after its finished its probably just a long never ending darkness filled with stars and other planets with god knows what lurking around.... just remember in space no one can hear you scream "Short answer - we don;t know 'cos we can't see if it has an edge as the light hasn't had enough time to reach us yet | |||
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"But I'm talking about things you don't have the answer to, Oh Knowing One. What would you like to know? -Courtney" You sound like my daughter. "How come you know everything?" I don't. Clearly. I am *interested* in everything. | |||
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"But I'm talking about things you don't have the answer to, Oh Knowing One. What would you like to know? -Courtney You sound like my daughter. "How come you know everything?" I don't. Clearly. I am *interested* in everything. " But. Question of the week for which I do not have an answer is a little more immediate: What am I going to do with myself for the next 10-15 years? Seriously. | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists." Because it just does.... | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does.... "According to Olaf Stapledon we are a small part of the cosmos that is reaching to understand itself. Prosaic, perhaps, but I like the sentiment. | |||
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"I was gonna say what happens after death, but now I think about it if there's nothing I'd rather not know." I actually find it more comforting to kthink there is nothing when my body stops working. I won't even know i'm dead. | |||
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"Short answer - we don;t know 'cos we can't see if it has an edge as the light hasn't had enough time to reach us yet" afternoon joseph  , you're probably right but i'm guessing it would take thousands of years or more for any light to reach us...
or at best its just a bottomless pit in space never ending with dozens of undiscovered mysteries. | |||
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"I was gonna say what happens after death, but now I think about it if there's nothing I'd rather not know. I actually find it more comforting to kthink there is nothing when my body stops working. I won't even know i'm dead." ...is what I believe. According to Socrates "I do not fear death - it is either laughing with the gods or an eternity of sleep." | |||
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"Short answer - we don;t know 'cos we can't see if it has an edge as the light hasn't had enough time to reach us yet afternoon joseph , you're probably right but i'm guessing it would take thousands of years or more for any light to reach us...
or at best its just a bottomless pit in space never ending with dozens of undiscovered mysteries."I think it was Brian Cox but could be wrong, who said "Trying to understand cosmology from our limited perspective is like examining a slug and trying to formulate a theory of evolution." | |||
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"I was gonna say what happens after death, but now I think about it if there's nothing I'd rather not know. I actually find it more comforting to kthink there is nothing when my body stops working. I won't even know i'm dead. ...is what I believe. According to Socrates "I do not fear death - it is either laughing with the gods or an eternity of sleep."" Hemlock, anyone?  | |||
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" I think it was Brian Cox but could be wrong, who said "Trying to understand cosmology from our limited perspective is like examining a slug and trying to formulate a theory of evolution."" I think in the coming centuries if man kind has not killed and obliterated one another till the point off extinction that they might just create or discover something one day which will give them a better understanding. | |||
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"Just in case you think I'm getting too big for my boots, I keep this pinned up next to my computer: . "If you aren't certain about things, if your mind is still open enough to question what you are seeing, you tend to look at the world with great care, and out of that watchfulness come the possibility of seeing something that no-one else has seen before. You have to be willing to admit that you don;t have all the answers. If you think you do, you will never have anything important to say" . ~ Paul Auster, True Tales of American Life" Yes yes yes. But you're still just giving us answers instead of asking one question | |||
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"Just in case you think I'm getting too big for my boots, I keep this pinned up next to my computer: . "If you aren't certain about things, if your mind is still open enough to question what you are seeing, you tend to look at the world with great care, and out of that watchfulness come the possibility of seeing something that no-one else has seen before. You have to be willing to admit that you don;t have all the answers. If you think you do, you will never have anything important to say" . ~ Paul Auster, True Tales of American Life Yes yes yes. But you're still just giving us answers instead of asking one question "I already asked a question | |||
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" I think it was Brian Cox but could be wrong, who said "Trying to understand cosmology from our limited perspective is like examining a slug and trying to formulate a theory of evolution." I think in the coming centuries if man kind has not killed and obliterated one another till the point off extinction that they might just create or discover something one day which will give them a better understanding." If we're very, very lucky! | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
According to Olaf Stapledon we are a small part of the cosmos that is reaching to understand itself.
Prosaic, perhaps, but I like the sentiment. "It'd be amazing if we really did have a purpose. I don't like that sentiment myself sorry lol, that we are the universe in some way. We're really diverse, similar in some ways yet very different in others. We don't know what is fucked up and what isn't, no idea what is right or wrong because there's so many options and there's no such thing as natural. Everything is just presumed, based on so called rational thought. We don't know how we got here, or when, or why. We know shit when we think about it. Although we all have our own set of beliefs about everything, nobody knows if they're true or not. Even our feelings are chemical reactions that can be brought about by lies or faked. | |||
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" Yes yes yes. But you're still just giving us answers instead of asking one question
I already asked a question"Fair enough. Best get planning, then. | |||
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" Yes yes yes. But you're still just giving us answers instead of asking one question
I already asked a question
Fair enough. Best get planning, then. "No shit | |||
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DJ- I suggest wanking. | |||
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"I would like to know the cures for Cancer, Altzeimers and the common cold to start with please. And where the odd socks go
DJ- I suggest wanking."Charming! *faps furiously* I've always said - there's no problem on the planet that can't be solved by throwing a huge amount of money at it. Look at Ebola. The faint possibility that white people might become contaminated was the catalyst for pouring resources in to combating the disease and finding several cures within 6 months. Money. Although you might be pissing in the wind on the common cold. | |||
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"I would like to know the cures for Cancer, Altzeimers and the common cold to start with please. And where the odd socks go
DJ- I suggest wanking.
Charming!
*faps furiously*
I've always said - there's no problem on the planet that can't be solved by throwing a huge amount of money at it.
Look at Ebola.
The faint possibility that white people might become contaminated was the catalyst for pouring resources in to combating the disease and finding several cures within 6 months.
Money.
Although you might be pissing in the wind on the common cold. "The eternal optimist  | |||
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"The eternal optimist "There's no other choice - you might as well hang yourself otherwise. | |||
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"how long space goes on for.. Me too and what is after its finished" I know this, I know this. After space is finished, it's called full. | |||
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"I want to know (if we are not alone) how many civilisations there are throughout the universe." See the Drake Equation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation Most of the variables are guesses to varying degrees of education, but current suggestions range to around 23 other 'civilisations' within viewable space. Actually, this one's prettier than Wikipedia...
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120821-how-many-alien-worlds-exist | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover." I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass" I second this | |||
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"I would like to know the cures for Cancer, Altzeimers and the common cold to start with please. And where the odd socks go
DJ- I suggest wanking.
Charming!
*faps furiously*
I've always said - there's no problem on the planet that can't be solved by throwing a huge amount of money at it.
Look at Ebola.
The faint possibility that white people might become contaminated was the catalyst for pouring resources in to combating the disease and finding several cures within 6 months.
Money.
Although you might be pissing in the wind on the common cold. "Yes but what about the socks? | |||
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"I want to know (if we are not alone) how many civilisations there are throughout the universe. See the Drake Equation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation Most of the variables are guesses to varying degrees of education, but current suggestions range to around 23 other 'civilisations' within viewable space. Actually, this one's prettier than Wikipedia...
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120821-how-many-alien-worlds-exist"It's a beautiful equation but still a guess. We want to know. | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread."
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
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"Yes but what about the socks? "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH17evFJ1GU | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread.
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
Happy?
-Courtney"Space and time are components of the same thing, to start with. You need to think of them as aspects of the other. And to answer why space time and matter exist (ie 'why is there something and not nothing?') you need a basic understanding of quantum mechanics. http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does.... "Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what. | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what."Interesting... Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness. But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this "I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment."Or a tax on stupidity. You tomay-toe, I say tomar-toe | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more. "If i know what exists i can work out the why for myself. Not even sure my own conscious can be relied on as real. | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more. "Descartes was shit at this though. He also took God as the reason for believing things other than the self exist. How he proved the existence of God is something other philosophical skeptics have yet to figure out.  | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more.
If i know what exists i can work out the why for myself.
Not even sure my own conscious can be relied on as real."It may not be reliable and what we think we see may not be real but that we think is undeniable | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment."I see your point. | |||
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"how long space goes on for.. Me too and what is after its finished" A big brick wall | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread.
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
Happy?
-Courtney
Space and time are components of the same thing, to start with. You need to think of them as aspects of the other.
And to answer why space time and matter exist (ie 'why is there something and not nothing?') you need a basic understanding of quantum mechanics.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all"This is still just a theory. I want to KNOW. | |||
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"Just in case you think I'm getting too big for my boots, I keep this pinned up next to my computer: . "If you aren't certain about things, if your mind is still open enough to question what you are seeing, you tend to look at the world with great care, and out of that watchfulness come the possibility of seeing something that no-one else has seen before. You have to be willing to admit that you don;t have all the answers. If you think you do, you will never have anything important to say" . ~ Paul Auster, True Tales of American Life" 'The wisest man is he who says "I know nothing"' | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread.
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
Happy?
-Courtney
Space and time are components of the same thing, to start with. You need to think of them as aspects of the other.
And to answer why space time and matter exist (ie 'why is there something and not nothing?') you need a basic understanding of quantum mechanics.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all
This is still just a theory. I want to KNOW. "Ah. But you have to accept that there are things you just can't know. | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread.
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
Happy?
-Courtney
Space and time are components of the same thing, to start with. You need to think of them as aspects of the other.
And to answer why space time and matter exist (ie 'why is there something and not nothing?') you need a basic understanding of quantum mechanics.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all
This is still just a theory. I want to KNOW.
Ah.
But you have to accept that there are things you just can't know." | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment.
I see your point. "But how would you know them? Time travel? The hypothesis of time travel says that knowing the future changes the future so you couldn't guarantee the correct numbers... Still a gamble | |||
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"I'd also like to know why people never answer their own questions in a thread.
Ok, I'd like to know if there is a reason why space, time, and matter exist. And if not, then why not? And if so, what that reason is.
Happy?
-Courtney
Space and time are components of the same thing, to start with. You need to think of them as aspects of the other.
And to answer why space time and matter exist (ie 'why is there something and not nothing?') you need a basic understanding of quantum mechanics.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20141106-why-does-anything-exist-at-all
This is still just a theory. I want to KNOW.
Ah.
But you have to accept that there are things you just can't know.
"Irritating, ain't it? For instance, I'd love to know what I'm going to do with myself but I just can't work it out. My little old lady friend™ says that I'm looking too hard and if I take a step back the answer will present itself. She also says that's probably just hippy toot and to ignore it. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment.
I see your point.
But how would you know them? Time travel? The hypothesis of time travel says that knowing the future changes the future so you couldn't guarantee the correct numbers... Still a gamble"You can only travel in to *forwards* from the point in time after which the time machine was created. Going backwards isn't permitted byt he laws of physics, as I understand them. And also the amount of energy required is prohibitive... BUT If you could do all that and travel forwards in time and get the winning lottery numbers for next week, I'd say you were very clever and should put your energies somewhere more useful. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment.
I see your point.
But how would you know them? Time travel? The hypothesis of time travel says that knowing the future changes the future so you couldn't guarantee the correct numbers... Still a gamble
You can only travel in to *forwards* from the point in time after which the time machine was created. Going backwards isn't permitted byt he laws of physics, as I understand them.
And also the amount of energy required is prohibitive...
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If you could do all that and travel forwards in time and get the winning lottery numbers for next week, I'd say you were very clever and should put your energies somewhere more useful.
"Well, to be fair, I didn't say that we had to explain how we knew what we want to know. I just asked what you'd like to know. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment.
I see your point.
But how would you know them? Time travel? The hypothesis of time travel says that knowing the future changes the future so you couldn't guarantee the correct numbers... Still a gamble
You can only travel in to *forwards* from the point in time after which the time machine was created. Going backwards isn't permitted byt he laws of physics, as I understand them.
And also the amount of energy required is prohibitive...
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If you could do all that and travel forwards in time and get the winning lottery numbers for next week, I'd say you were very clever and should put your energies somewhere more useful.
Well, to be fair, I didn't say that we had to explain how we knew what we want to know. I just asked what you'd like to know. "Lol, sorry - I'm making a mess of yr thread... But I did pose a question, somewhere in amongst the ramblings... | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more.
If i know what exists i can work out the why for myself.
Not even sure my own conscious can be relied on as real.
It may not be reliable and what we think we see may not be real but that we think is undeniable "I'm not sure any more. Like i said so much can be faked, and it seems lies are so much more believable, even comforting, than the truth. | |||
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"The lottery numbers for a fully capped Euromillions rollover. I have a lot of vices but gambling isn't one of them. Pass I second this
I'm not sure it can be considered gambling if you have the winning numbers, it's more of an unbelievably good return on investment.
I see your point.
But how would you know them? Time travel? The hypothesis of time travel says that knowing the future changes the future so you couldn't guarantee the correct numbers... Still a gamble
You can only travel in to *forwards* from the point in time after which the time machine was created. Going backwards isn't permitted byt he laws of physics, as I understand them.
And also the amount of energy required is prohibitive...
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If you could do all that and travel forwards in time and get the winning lottery numbers for next week, I'd say you were very clever and should put your energies somewhere more useful.
Well, to be fair, I didn't say that we had to explain how we knew what we want to know. I just asked what you'd like to know.
Lol, sorry - I'm making a mess of yr thread...
But I did pose a question, somewhere in amongst the ramblings..."Messes are fun | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more.
If i know what exists i can work out the why for myself.
Not even sure my own conscious can be relied on as real.
It may not be reliable and what we think we see may not be real but that we think is undeniable
I'm not sure any more. Like i said so much can be faked, and it seems lies are so much more believable, even comforting, than the truth."Nah, that's Matrix talk! This'll keep you busy... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? " It means stay at home! | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home!" Well then, say what you mean! | |||
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"Messes are fun "Oh, just fuck me! Promise I'll keep my gob shut unless it's required. | |||
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"Messes are fun
Oh, just fuck me!
Promise I'll keep my gob shut unless it's required. "If you were closer 
And talking would be required. I like vocal men | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean!" We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden  | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home!" Not from me, it means bugger off out so I have the house to myself and control of Netflix for the evening. | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean! We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden "As I was gonna say... don;t be judging me by your own standards. Some of us are capable of having a few pints, not getting shit faced, returning at a reasonable time AND shagging you nicely on getting home. | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean! We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden
As I was gonna say... don;t be judging me by your own standards.
Some of us are capable of having a few pints, not getting shit faced, returning at a reasonable time AND shagging you nicely on getting home.
"Joe, I salute you, good come back, well said x | |||
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"I want to know why everything exists. Because it just does....
Changing my question to: does anything exist, and if so what.
Interesting...
Now we're back to Descartes and the idea that the only truly knowable thing we can be certain of is out own consciousness.
But that's a bit of a cop out - there has to be more.
If i know what exists i can work out the why for myself.
Not even sure my own conscious can be relied on as real.
It may not be reliable and what we think we see may not be real but that we think is undeniable
I'm not sure any more. Like i said so much can be faked, and it seems lies are so much more believable, even comforting, than the truth.
Nah, that's Matrix talk!
This'll keep you busy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories"I'm past looking into conspiracies. Anyway it doesn't matter. Don't think there's an answer for me. | |||
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"I want to know how and when I'm going to die." Tricky, unless you plan suicide? | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean! We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden
As I was gonna say... don;t be judging me by your own standards.
Some of us are capable of having a few pints, not getting shit faced, returning at a reasonable time AND shagging you nicely on getting home.
Joe, I salute you, good come back, well said x"Bugger that. I don't want to be shagged "nicely" | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand!" Train the little buggers better! | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean! We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden
As I was gonna say... don;t be judging me by your own standards.
Some of us are capable of having a few pints, not getting shit faced, returning at a reasonable time AND shagging you nicely on getting home.
Joe, I salute you, good come back, well said x
Bugger that. I don't want to be shagged "nicely" "That one does. I cater for all tastes | |||
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"When women say "yes of course it ok for you to go to the pub with your friends" what do they really mean? It means stay at home! Well then, say what you mean! We live in hope that one day you lot will actually put your coat down and say yes dear, let's go and fuck instead of coming home shit faced and pissing in the garden
As I was gonna say... don;t be judging me by your own standards.
Some of us are capable of having a few pints, not getting shit faced, returning at a reasonable time AND shagging you nicely on getting home.
Joe, I salute you, good come back, well said x
Bugger that. I don't want to be shagged "nicely" "Depends what nicely he means.. | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better!" Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense!" They just need someone else to confirm something for them, someone they can relate to is best (following the herd mentality). "B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system " They don't know the meaning of fair. "And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand!" One of lifes' biggest mysteries, imo. Science needs to look into this shit. | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?!" FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? | |||
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"I want to know (if we are not alone) how many civilisations there are throughout the universe." Hey, I want to know the same thing - And would we recognise it? | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they?" 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys | |||
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"I want to know (if we are not alone) how many civilisations there are throughout the universe. Hey, I want to know the same thing - And would we recognise it?" We already suggested a starting point to answer this question, scroll up | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys" Oh dear. Arguably quite late to start training. Bribery and blackmail are probably the strongest weapons in your armoury. Try to separate them, get one to do stuff and over-praise/shower with pressies. Do that enough and the others will get the idea? Maybe | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys Oh dear. Arguably quite late to start training. Bribery and blackmail are probably the strongest weapons in your armoury. Try to separate them, get one to do stuff and over-praise/shower with pressies. Do that enough and the others will get the idea? Maybe" Hmmm blackmail you say, interesting.... | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys Oh dear. Arguably quite late to start training. Bribery and blackmail are probably the strongest weapons in your armoury. Try to separate them, get one to do stuff and over-praise/shower with pressies. Do that enough and the others will get the idea? Maybe Hmmm blackmail you say, interesting...." Oh yeah, definitely. Everyone thinks kids are delicate little flowers to be nutured and preserves. They're little sods, not to be trusted. They smell fear and hunt in packs. Take. No. Prisoners! | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney"i'd quite like to know who made the pyramids in Egypt and how all those years ago | |||
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"Yes but what about the socks?
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney
i'd quite like to know who made the pyramids in Egypt and how all those years ago "By the ancient Egyptians, during the classic period of the Old and Middle Kingdoms roughly 4,500 to 3,500 years ago. How Were the Pyramids Built? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lotbZQ55SgU | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys" I'm a middle child and I'm always right too | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys I'm a middle child and I'm always right too "As the youngest child, I roll my eyes at you | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney
i'd quite like to know who made the pyramids in Egypt and how all those years ago
By the ancient Egyptians, during the classic period of the Old and Middle Kingdoms roughly 4,500 to 3,500 years ago.
How Were the Pyramids Built?
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me" That's your second question!! **golf clap** | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys I'm a middle child and I'm always right too
As the youngest child, I roll my eyes at you
That's because you can't stand the fact I'm always right " Whatever. I'm the youngest so I'm pampered and loved by mom and dad. I don't need to be right. | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap**" I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap** I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. " You didn't answer mine | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap** I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. You didn't answer mine "I thought your was about death? | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap** I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. You didn't answer mine
I thought your was about death?"It was, you said it was a hard one to answer. Wasn't that the point of the thread, questions that we would like to know but are unlikely to? | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap** I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. You didn't answer mine
I thought your was about death?
It was, you said it was a hard one to answer. Wasn't that the point of the thread, questions that we would like to know but are unlikely to? "Two things: 1/ I said tricky, unless yr planning suicide 2/ As already covered, there are plenty of things we will just never know the answer to | |||
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"What goes on in a womans mind? What goes on in anyone's mind? You tell me That's your second question!! **golf clap** I wasn't aware it was one member, one question... and tbf, I have attempted to answer a few too. " I was joking since you've been answering so many. Ask as many as you want. | |||
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"To see the truth." "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney"I'd like to know what my future holds. That includes any health problems for me and loved ones, will I settle down and marry, will my son be a successful businessman and when will I die. | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney
I'd like to know what my future holds. That includes any health problems for me and loved ones, will I settle down and marry, will my son be a successful businessman and when will I die."Try a tarot reading? | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney
I'd like to know what my future holds. That includes any health problems for me and loved ones, will I settle down and marry, will my son be a successful businessman and when will I die.
Try a tarot reading?"Tried that | |||
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To be honest its good to be inquisitive and to keep learning .
I am quite happy as I am learning something new every day .
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"I'd like to know what my future holds. That includes any health problems for me and loved ones, will I settle down and marry, will my son be a successful businessman and when will I die. Try a tarot reading? Tried that "Then anything I suggest will be pointless. All the best | |||
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"I'd like to know what my future holds. That includes any health problems for me and loved ones, will I settle down and marry, will my son be a successful businessman and when will I die. Try a tarot reading? Tried that
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
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"Dont worry about the future or the past just live in the present "
"Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday." | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?""Quid est veritas?" John 18:38 | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
"What comes to you when you see through all that is false. | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false."Good question. The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place"..or, the truth? | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?"Maybe... "Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk." ~ Henry David Thoreau | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?
Maybe...
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk."
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?
Maybe...
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk."
~ Henry David Thoreau
But if you see through all that is false, surely the truth is what you are left with?"Only if it's been tested to destruction | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?
Maybe...
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk."
~ Henry David Thoreau
But if you see through all that is false, surely the truth is what you are left with?
Only if it's been tested to destruction"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?
Maybe...
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk."
~ Henry David Thoreau
But if you see through all that is false, surely the truth is what you are left with?
Only if it's been tested to destruction
Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told."Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories | |||
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"Hiya Everyone! So, there are sooo many things about which humans have so much to learn. So many things that we just don't know about. My question is, if you could choose ONE thing to know that we don't already know, what would you choose? Is it the beginning of life? What happens after death? What is dark matter? How quantum theory really works, in full? What would you like to know?
-Courtney"I guess I'd like to know if there's really a god and if there's a heaven/hell! If there IS a god - and he's the narrow, vengeful God of the Old Testament - then I'm going to hell! That bothers me at times - because apart from my super-high sex drive and my sexual experiences with lots of people I'd say I'm a pretty nice person! | |||
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"I would like to know why (child related) A) they don't listen to their parents when given advice but someone of the same age as them can say the same thing and suddenly it all makes sense! B) why when you ask them to do a job, the arms swing and 'it's not fair' comes out their gob despite a rota system And C) how much washing can three kids make in a day?! When they don't change!!! All parents will understand! Train the little buggers better! Good luck their all yours... Did you want grey hairs?! FI you can train a dog you can train a child, I always say. How old are they? 10, 13 (middle child syndrome, annoying and 'always right') and 15, all boys I'm a middle child and I'm always right too
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That's because you can't stand the fact I'm always right
Whatever. I'm the youngest so I'm pampered and loved by mom and dad. I don't need to be right. "This is spot on people!! We need to start a revolution!! Or have another child so no middle child....yeah that ain't happening!! | |||
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"To see the truth. "...and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." John 8:32
But is truth separate from knowing?
"Quid est veritas?"
John 18:38
What comes to you when you see through all that is false.
Good question.
The realisation that you are mad or an understanding that the world is a mad place
..or, the truth?
Maybe...
"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong - as when you find a trout in the milk."
~ Henry David Thoreau
But if you see through all that is false, surely the truth is what you are left with?
Only if it's been tested to destruction
Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told.
Then we're going back to this place...?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories"But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell..." Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known." Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im? | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell... Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad "oh no no don't get me wrong....I was just wondering what was the author's inspiration to write such a book and how it was so detailed in the first place? maybe he just took references from the bible or whatever or added it? either way I'm glad I purchased the book | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell... Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad "I drew a handy schematic of Dante's Inferno once. *looking at it right now* I can see Fab rests in the 2nd circle of Hell (the Lustful)... Whereas I've been promoted to the 5th circle | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im? "Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach. | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell... Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad
I drew a handy schematic of Dante's Inferno once.
*looking at it right now*
I can see Fab rests in the 2nd circle of Hell (the Lustful)...
Whereas I've been promoted to the 5th circle"Ironically joseph I am up to the part in the book where he has entered the second circle and was then exiting it.. | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell... Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad
I drew a handy schematic of Dante's Inferno once.
*looking at it right now*
I can see Fab rests in the 2nd circle of Hell (the Lustful)...
Whereas I've been promoted to the 5th circle
Ironically joseph I am up to the part in the book where he has entered the second circle and was then exiting it.."LOL | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im?
Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach."I agree with this. Language, and the use of it, has made it so the truth can be manipulated into something else. | |||
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"anybody ever read dantes inferno? fascinating book indeed i'm glued into it at the moment reading about his journey through the nine circles of hell... Yeah. I've read it. Are you making an analogy? I didn't think my thread was quite that bad
I drew a handy schematic of Dante's Inferno once.
*looking at it right now*
I can see Fab rests in the 2nd circle of Hell (the Lustful)...
Whereas I've been promoted to the 5th circle
Ironically joseph I am up to the part in the book where he has entered the second circle and was then exiting it..
LOL"Mind you, there is a subset of circle 7 (the Violent) entitled 'Unnatural Lusts', who are 'forced to perpetually run', so maybe that's more accurate? | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im?
Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach.
I agree with this. Language, and the use of it, has made it so the truth can be manipulated into something else."But this is almost constructing reasons *not* to believe. Certain sources are trustworthy | |||
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" LOL Mind you, there is a subset of circle 7 (the Violent) entitled 'Unnatural Lusts', who are 'forced to perpetually run', so maybe that's more accurate? " whatever all the circles are about I find it interesting reading books like that even have a collection of similar kind of books... it's just a hobby really but I can read anything from history to biographies, sport etc and in this case references to the fiery pit.. | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im?
Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach.
I agree with this. Language, and the use of it, has made it so the truth can be manipulated into something else.
But this is almost constructing reasons *not* to believe.
Certain sources are trustworthy"How do you [i]know[/i] which is which? Not believe which, but know. They need codes in here for discussing proper stuff... | |||
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" LOL Mind you, there is a subset of circle 7 (the Violent) entitled 'Unnatural Lusts', who are 'forced to perpetually run', so maybe that's more accurate? whatever all the circles are about I find it interesting reading books like that even have a collection of similar kind of books... it's just a hobby really but I can read anything from history to biographies, sport etc and in this case references to the fiery pit.." Oh, Hell gets colder and colder, according to Dante
Everyone's encased in ice by the end, with the worst of the lot (Traitors to Benefactors and Kin), immersed in ice and held in Lucifer's mouth.
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" Oh, Hell gets colder and colder, according to Dante
Everyone's encased in ice by the end, with the worst of the lot (Traitors to Benefactors and Kin), immersed in ice and held in Lucifer's mouth.
Very odd. "thanks for those references to the books and it's further in depth chapters but I have not got that far just yet..... so any more spoilers put them on hold please for now so then I can sooner find out the rest on my own while eagerly reading away | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im?
Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach.
I agree with this. Language, and the use of it, has made it so the truth can be manipulated into something else.
But this is almost constructing reasons *not* to believe.
Certain sources are trustworthy
How do you [i]know[/i] which is which? Not believe which, but know.
They need codes in here for discussing proper stuff..."Ah, now we're straying in to realms of free speech, which is a whole 'nother ball game... When it comes to good sources... * who wrote it? * what's their angle? * what are their sources? * Is it the official site of an official organisation that is well respected? * is the domain name is appropriate to the information you seek: .edu, .gov, and .org sites are usually more appropriate than .com sites. * do many other web pages point to this site? * is it is clear who has written the entry, the person has appropriate credentials, and it seems recent enough? * Is the site is updated regularly and do links to other sites work? &c &c | |||
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"Seeing what is, as oppose to what we are told. Then we're going back to this place...? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories But is that the truth, we are being told again, how can we be sure anything we are told in the truth? maybe it lays way beyond knowledge, that could be why it is said to be seen, as oppose to known. Sounds a bit... flimsy... for me? Where's old Mpassion when you need 'im?
Why do you say " flimsy"? maybe seeing the actual truth about everything is very simple, and knowledge overcomplicates it and puts it beyond reach.
I agree with this. Language, and the use of it, has made it so the truth can be manipulated into something else.
But this is almost constructing reasons *not* to believe.
Certain sources are trustworthy
How do you [i]know[/i] which is which? Not believe which, but know.
They need codes in here for discussing proper stuff...
Ah, now we're straying in to realms of free speech, which is a whole 'nother ball game...
When it comes to good sources...
* who wrote it?
* what's their angle?
* what are their sources?
* Is it the official site of an official organisation that is well respected?
* is the domain name is appropriate to the information you seek: .edu, .gov, and .org sites are usually more appropriate than .com sites.
* do many other web pages point to this site?
* is it is clear who has written the entry, the person has appropriate credentials, and it seems recent enough?
* Is the site is updated regularly and do links to other sites work?
&c &c
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"I'm not just talking about the internet, i'm talking anything and everything. Also, reputation means nothing and false info can be accidently passed on, as well as purposefully." Such as...? Gimme an example! . ("Don;t believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see", as a wise man once said) | |||
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"I'm not just talking about the internet, i'm talking anything and everything. Also, reputation means nothing and false info can be accidently passed on, as well as purposefully. Such as...? Gimme an example! . ("Don;t believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see", as a wise man once said)" Anything. You don't need an example. Most of the questions in here could be examples. I've seen an alien. Is that true? First you need to know what i mean by alien, this is the first hurdle where truth fails for most people. | |||
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"I'm not just talking about the internet, i'm talking anything and everything. Also, reputation means nothing and false info can be accidently passed on, as well as purposefully. Such as...? Gimme an example! . ("Don;t believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see", as a wise man once said) Anything. You don't need an example. Most of the questions in here could be examples. I've seen an alien. Is that true? First you need to know what i mean by alien, this is the first hurdle where truth fails for most people. " I'm not sure I follow - are you saying that we cannot be sure of *anything* because of language? What's your question, or line of questioning? | |||
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"I'm not sure I follow - are you saying that we cannot be sure of *anything* because of language? What's your question, or line of questioning?" Language makes it so you can manipulate the 'truth'. Words have meanings, often more than one, they also have connotations. Add onto this that people like to use confirmation bias and we have some very confusing truths flying around, well they're more beliefs aren't they. But i wanna apply that to everything. You cannot know what's the truth, it's not possible. There really isn't any truth that exist. It's all presumption and how you perceive anything. Labels can help us discuss things, the sky is blue for example, but it also holds us back, the sky is more than blue but that's what we see, we perceive, and so we will label it as such. I'm shit at explaining. | |||
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"I'm not sure I follow - are you saying that we cannot be sure of *anything* because of language? What's your question, or line of questioning? Language makes it so you can manipulate the 'truth'. Words have meanings, often more than one, they also have connotations. Add onto this that people like to use confirmation bias and we have some very confusing truths flying around, well they're more beliefs aren't they. But i wanna apply that to everything. You cannot know what's the truth, it's not possible. There really isn't any truth that exist. It's all presumption and how you perceive anything. Labels can help us discuss things, the sky is blue for example, but it also holds us back, the sky is more than blue but that's what we see, we perceive, and so we will label it as such. I'm shit at explaining." Words are for communication purposes, the Sky wasn't called the sky until we named it, it just was, that's the same for everything. Can you look at the sky with fresh eyes, no name or thoughts, just see it? | |||
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"I'm not sure I follow - are you saying that we cannot be sure of *anything* because of language? What's your question, or line of questioning? Language makes it so you can manipulate the 'truth'. Words have meanings, often more than one, they also have connotations. Add onto this that people like to use confirmation bias and we have some very confusing truths flying around, well they're more beliefs aren't they. But i wanna apply that to everything. You cannot know what's the truth, it's not possible. There really isn't any truth that exist. It's all presumption and how you perceive anything. Labels can help us discuss things, the sky is blue for example, but it also holds us back, the sky is more than blue but that's what we see, we perceive, and so we will label it as such. I'm shit at explaining. Words are for communication purposes, the Sky wasn't called the sky until we named it, it just was, that's the same for everything. Can you look at the sky with fresh eyes, no name or thoughts, just see it?" Exactly. Does anyone even look at anything [i]as it is[/i]? Would that even be the truth if they did? I feel it would be the closest thing to it. | |||
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