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I wouldn't go there anyway but if I were to go, I wouldn't let the recent incidents stop me. The way I see it is, all air travel is a risk, you weigh up the risks of doing it vs the rewards of the destination. The destination and desire to travel wins every time.
Bombs, aircraft failures and such like can happen at any time so if i was afraid of that, I'd never get on a plane. |
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"Supposed to going to sharm for Xmas but not sure now"
But you could get run over by a bus tomorrow. I wouldn't be letting terrorist scumbags dictate to me where and when I can visit somewhere. If they hit my flight, it's obviously my time to go. Better that than being cowed into submission and staying at home because of a very small chance of a repeat incident. |
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"Supposed to going to sharm for Xmas but not sure now"
You could always go to London and risk getting caught in another Tube bombing.
Then again stay in and live your life scared of the boogie man. |
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I have always thought id like to visit Egypt but have been put off by the fact that in the past few years there have been several attacks ,also that behind the facade of the tourist areas, it is a muslim country and most importantly,sharm is only less than 200 miles south of where ISIS are operating. Its not far is it,,certainly not far enough for me and if they happen to sneak south and spot you supping a cocktail on the beach with your thruppenies out,well i suspect they will be enraged. |
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It wouldn't put me off going there. In fact as it will be cheaper and as I suspect the trade that will be lost will likely be the sort of people I wouldn't want to be around it;s actually looking quite attractive.
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"It wouldn't put me off going there. In fact as it will be cheaper and as I suspect the trade that will be lost will likely be the sort of people I wouldn't want to be around it;s actually looking quite attractive.
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why would you not want to be around those people?
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Spent two weeks in Sharm last year and vowed never to go back while we were still there. Certainly wouldn't now, we've been abroad 3 times already this year but as a whole I am being a little more choosy over where we travel to. |
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I wouldn't go
As for the countries saying tourism is affected.tough shit, if they can't sort out the obsession with religion and death in their countries.they don't deserve tourist dollars. |
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"Without a doubt. We had a great time there. Probably just as likely to get mown down on a pelican crossing. "
At least you have control over your safety on a crossing.some cunt taking offence at your nationality is out of your control,unless your control measure is don't go.
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It wouldn't put me off. It's like this Isis can attack any place,any country at anytime. You could be in Cornwall next week and they could attack there. Would that put you off going? |
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"Without a doubt. We had a great time there. Probably just as likely to get mown down on a pelican crossing.
At least you have control over your safety on a crossing.some cunt taking offence at your nationality is out of your control,unless your control measure is don't go.
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I (f) was there early October and did experience the £15 to get through security. TBH I saw no one take it up.
But given the chance I would be packed and ready to fly out tomorrow.
and yes I'm booked to go out in May
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"Would you go on holiday there next year?
I wouldn't have gone there ever since the 'Arab Spring'. "
It does all sound a little colonial doesn't it. "You there! Yes you boy! No i don't care if you're protesting about your democratic right to vote for a leader with leanings towards a modern society away the oppressive authority of the muslim autocrats! Freshen my bloody pimms will you!? Then is all inclusive! ". |
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I am supposed to have flown to Sharm today instead I'm laying on the sofa in my Jamas watching shitty X factor.
If they offered me a holiday there tomorrow I would go!
Amazing country and people!!
Everyone saying oh it's unsafe it's no different to travelling around in the uk got enough terrorists in this country waiting for the opportune moment.
The government have handled it all wrong as per usual knee jerk management to cause more caos and panic so they can say oh we saved you remember to vote for us.
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"I wouldn't go
As for the countries saying tourism is affected.tough shit, if they can't sort out the obsession with religion and death in their countries.they don't deserve tourist dollars."
So we don't have any terrorists in the uk then??? |
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"I am supposed to have flown to Sharm today instead I'm laying on the sofa in my Jamas watching shitty X factor.
If they offered me a holiday there tomorrow I would go!
Amazing country and people!!
Everyone saying oh it's unsafe it's no different to travelling around in the uk got enough terrorists in this country waiting for the opportune moment.
The government have handled it all wrong as per usual knee jerk management to cause more caos and panic so they can say oh we saved you remember to vote for us.
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I disagree they've handled it wrongly. If they allowed you to travel & something happened who would you blame? Yourself for not researching the country & risks or the goverment for letting you travel.....?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to answer the OP's question no I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back. |
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"I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back."
Similar: not been. No desire to go. The people who go year after year give me no reason to change my mind. |
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"I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back.
Similar: not been. No desire to go. The people who go year after year give me no reason to change my mind. "
it's a country where the East meets West and where imo resorts like Sharm
& Shark Bay have become way too westernised. |
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"I am supposed to have flown to Sharm today instead I'm laying on the sofa in my Jamas watching shitty X factor.
If they offered me a holiday there tomorrow I would go!
Amazing country and people!!
Everyone saying oh it's unsafe it's no different to travelling around in the uk got enough terrorists in this country waiting for the opportune moment.
The government have handled it all wrong as per usual knee jerk management to cause more caos and panic so they can say oh we saved you remember to vote for us.
I disagree they've handled it wrongly. If they allowed you to travel & something happened who would you blame? Yourself for not researching the country & risks or the goverment for letting you travel.....?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to answer the OP's question no I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back." .
I feel they have handled it wrongly, they have set panic in with the majority of British tourists in Sharm people are panicking and wanting to get home as they are rightly scared.
However the foreign office had clear warnings set for the area I knew them when I booked as checked up and as a adult I made an informed choice to still book my holiday there. It was my choice to book, the same as it would have been my fault if I was there and something happened so the only person to blame would be myself.
To be perfectly honest if I had flown there last week and stuck much as I might have been worried I would have carried on as normal as the situation would have been out of my control.
The government knew in August a British Thomson flight had a near miss with a missile yet rather than acting then they took the risk of it happening again.
Sadly this time a Russian jet got it in other ways.
So they are to blame for this caos, it's sent the British travel industry into a spiral again. They haven't learned from any lessons from Tunisia at all.
Now the Egyptian government are blocking flights to pick up stranded tourists, this could easily have been dealt with weeks ago rather than the sudden knee jerk reaction.
Let's face it not the first time it's happened and won't be the last. A terrorist can strike at any time anywhere now a days we have to make an informed choice weather to live our lives to the full or bow down to them and be scared which is what they want.
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No but not due to what's just happened, purely due to the hassle I get there, same reason I won't go to turkey. I like to explore areas without needing guides or a man with me. Blonde hair girls get a lot of attention especially big girls in my experience. I prefer country's that i feel comfortable to wander out the complex without needing to drag a man everywhere I go. |
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"I am supposed to have flown to Sharm today instead I'm laying on the sofa in my Jamas watching shitty X factor.
If they offered me a holiday there tomorrow I would go!
Amazing country and people!!
Everyone saying oh it's unsafe it's no different to travelling around in the uk got enough terrorists in this country waiting for the opportune moment.
The government have handled it all wrong as per usual knee jerk management to cause more caos and panic so they can say oh we saved you remember to vote for us.
I disagree they've handled it wrongly. If they allowed you to travel & something happened who would you blame? Yourself for not researching the country & risks or the goverment for letting you travel.....?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to answer the OP's question no I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back..
I feel they have handled it wrongly, they have set panic in with the majority of British tourists in Sharm people are panicking and wanting to get home as they are rightly scared.
However the foreign office had clear warnings set for the area I knew them when I booked as checked up and as a adult I made an informed choice to still book my holiday there. It was my choice to book, the same as it would have been my fault if I was there and something happened so the only person to blame would be myself.
To be perfectly honest if I had flown there last week and stuck much as I might have been worried I would have carried on as normal as the situation would have been out of my control.
The government knew in August a British Thomson flight had a near miss with a missile yet rather than acting then they took the risk of it happening again.
Sadly this time a Russian jet got it in other ways.
So they are to blame for this caos, it's sent the British travel industry into a spiral again. They haven't learned from any lessons from Tunisia at all.
Now the Egyptian government are blocking flights to pick up stranded tourists, this could easily have been dealt with weeks ago rather than the sudden knee jerk reaction.
Let's face it not the first time it's happened and won't be the last. A terrorist can strike at any time anywhere now a days we have to make an informed choice weather to live our lives to the full or bow down to them and be scared which is what they want.
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I glad you take responsibility for your holiday choice, so many don't.
The Thomson plane involved in the missle near miss was a result of the Egyptian army not a planned terrorist attack, as far a I am aware but still....
I guess using the intelligence they have they suspect now airside workers are responsible hence the sealed planes to / from Sharm, hand baggage only. where as in the beginning they were unsure hence the flight cancelations
Ultimately the blame lies with whoever caused the atrocitiy and the Egyptian authorities for the unbelibeable lack of airport security.
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"I am supposed to have flown to Sharm today instead I'm laying on the sofa in my Jamas watching shitty X factor.
If they offered me a holiday there tomorrow I would go!
Amazing country and people!!
Everyone saying oh it's unsafe it's no different to travelling around in the uk got enough terrorists in this country waiting for the opportune moment.
The government have handled it all wrong as per usual knee jerk management to cause more caos and panic so they can say oh we saved you remember to vote for us.
I disagree they've handled it wrongly. If they allowed you to travel & something happened who would you blame? Yourself for not researching the country & risks or the goverment for letting you travel.....?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And to answer the OP's question no I wouldn't go, have been and have no desire to go back..
I feel they have handled it wrongly, they have set panic in with the majority of British tourists in Sharm people are panicking and wanting to get home as they are rightly scared.
However the foreign office had clear warnings set for the area I knew them when I booked as checked up and as a adult I made an informed choice to still book my holiday there. It was my choice to book, the same as it would have been my fault if I was there and something happened so the only person to blame would be myself.
To be perfectly honest if I had flown there last week and stuck much as I might have been worried I would have carried on as normal as the situation would have been out of my control.
The government knew in August a British Thomson flight had a near miss with a missile yet rather than acting then they took the risk of it happening again.
Sadly this time a Russian jet got it in other ways.
So they are to blame for this caos, it's sent the British travel industry into a spiral again. They haven't learned from any lessons from Tunisia at all.
Now the Egyptian government are blocking flights to pick up stranded tourists, this could easily have been dealt with weeks ago rather than the sudden knee jerk reaction.
Let's face it not the first time it's happened and won't be the last. A terrorist can strike at any time anywhere now a days we have to make an informed choice weather to live our lives to the full or bow down to them and be scared which is what they want.
I glad you take responsibility for your holiday choice, so many don't.
The Thomson plane involved in the missle near miss was a result of the Egyptian army not a planned terrorist attack, as far a I am aware but still....
I guess using the intelligence they have they suspect now airside workers are responsible hence the sealed planes to / from Sharm, hand baggage only. where as in the beginning they were unsure hence the flight cancelations
Ultimately the blame lies with whoever caused the atrocitiy and the Egyptian authorities for the unbelibeable lack of airport security.
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Of course I take responsibility as other should too but the way I see it I'm going to die one day if I've got a cig in one hand a gin best way to go for me!.
The Egyptian government will happily say anything now to save the tourist industry over there as there is little or no other industry in that area.
It's just a shame for all the people working in resorts to be honest will leave the majority out of work for sometime.
Who knows what will happen next, when, where, etc but lord help Isis when the day comes and it's confirmed a bomb was smuggled into that plane, as Putin is a very scarey, dangerous man! Or maybe he could be the guy to have the back bone to take them on.
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I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem! |
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"I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem!"
Hang on you could go on holiday to Tenerife and there could be a terrorist attack should we leave u stranded there????.
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"I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem!"
Been to Egypt 7 times and never had any probs. Runs are usually caused by too much alcohol (all inclusive), too much sun and not drinking enough water |
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"I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem!
Hang on you could go on holiday to Tenerife and there could be a terrorist attack should we leave u stranded there????.
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"I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem!
Been to Egypt 7 times and never had any probs. Runs are usually caused by too much alcohol (all inclusive), too much sun and not drinking enough water" .
The last two friends I had go there are tee total! |
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"I wouldn't have gone to Egypt before this due to most people I know who've visited have not been able to get off the bog for three weeks afterwards!
If there'd been caught out on a holiday to Jersey I'd have all been for rescuing them... But ffs
It came as a surprise that there was terrorism in the middle East...
Fuck that you go there that's your problem!
Been to Egypt 7 times and never had any probs. Runs are usually caused by too much alcohol (all inclusive), too much sun and not drinking enough water.
The last two friends I had go there are tee total!"
Too other things quoted, many do not drink enough water and sit in the sun from sunrise to sunset. Not saying some hotels do have bad hygiene standards. But all hotels and boats I've stayed in/
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Don't get me wrong... I'm not advocating banning people from going to shit hole third world crap holes...
I'm just saying we shouldn't rescue them at tax payers expense when it all goes wrong!... I mean that's like bailing out idiots who bet on stocks going up when they go down! |
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"Don't get me wrong... I'm not advocating banning people from going to
I'm just saying we shouldn't rescue them at tax payers expense when it all goes wrong!... I mean that's like bailing out idiots who bet on stocks going up when they go down!"
They are being flown home by the holiday companies, nothing to do with tax payers.
so is it ok to rescue people from non shit hole third world crap holes...
Also some of the best 5 star hotels I have stayed in have been in Egypt and Jordan, you know,shit hole third world crap holes...
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"Don't get me wrong... I'm not advocating banning people from going to
I'm just saying we shouldn't rescue them at tax payers expense when it all goes wrong!... I mean that's like bailing out idiots who bet on stocks going up when they go down!
They are being flown home by the holiday companies, nothing to do with tax payers.
so is it ok to rescue people from non shit hole third world crap holes...
Also some of the best 5 star hotels I have stayed in have been in Egypt and Jordan, you know,shit hole third world crap holes...
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In capitalism there's a thing called... Risk.
What's the chance of things turning shit in Egypt and what's the chance of things turning shit in Germany!.
If you look at the cost of a five star hotel in London or Berlin or Washington dc or Paris against Cairo or Istanbul or Islamabad you'll see where the risk lies!
If you wish to travel to third world countries I wish you well... I just don't want to bail you out when the evitable happens, because it's not unseen or unthinkable for the middle East to have a terrorist attack or the Philippines to have a typhoon or Sierra Leone to have a ebola outbreak....
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"Don't get me wrong... I'm not advocating banning people from going to shit hole third world crap holes...
Have you ever been to Sharm???!
I'm just saying we shouldn't rescue them at tax payers expense when it all goes wrong!... I mean that's like bailing out idiots who bet on stocks going up when they go down!"
As per my previous post asking u of u were in Tenerife and it happen would you want to be left stranded there you said no, so how's it different?????.
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People do pay the price when it goes tits up because it's their holiday company or their insurance company who fly them back, so it's implicit in their payment for the holiday or insurance in the first place...or have I missed a mass government funded evacuation of Egypt or something? |
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"I (f) go to the Arndale Centre in Manchester which was bombed, Have used both London Buses and Underground, bombed.
Stay at home, but, beware of electricity and gas, both can explode" hey weirdly this has a ring of yes you can't be feared of what's around the corner coz it could be any corner anytime but really if theirs trouble anywhere then best to stay away ,I was in Athens when the people were shot in the bank a few years back and you could hear the guns going off and all areas had armed security on show |
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Can not understand all the talk about being left stranded no one is going to be left they are just making sure your going to fly home safe. If the odd plain kept blowing up would you want to get on one.
Or you can do the migrants walk here just chill and have some extra sun your not going to starve and thank God they are trying there best to keep you safe |
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"I (f) go to the Arndale Centre in Manchester which was bombed, Have used both London Buses and Underground, bombed.
Stay at home, but, beware of electricity and gas, both can explode"
Innit, Bruv.
For all we know, ISIS' next target could be the London Aquarium, The Natural history museum or the pier at Southend-on-Sea.
If you stop doing everything for fear of being attacked, you'd never do anything ever again. |
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I got back from Sharm about two weeks ago ( my second time there ) and sad to report that the airport security was totally inadequate. Egyptian people are only interested in tips and bribes and that is certainly the same with the then airport security.
I am booked ('and fully paid up ) for next April with Thompson, so hopefully it will all be sorted by then. |
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"I (f) go to the Arndale Centre in Manchester which was bombed, Have used both London Buses and Underground, bombed.
Stay at home, but, beware of electricity and gas, both can explode
Innit, Bruv.
For all we know, ISIS' next target could be the London Aquarium, The Natural history museum or the pier at Southend-on-Sea.
If you stop doing everything for fear of being attacked, you'd never do anything ever again. " do ISIS actually exist ,who is Hal kayeeda and is bin laden full? hugs |
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We should all boycott it, because off its current military dictator.
Overthrew the elected government and sentenced it's leaders to death for crimes against the state, where 178 people were tried at the same time.
Oppressing all opposition,
refuses to let aid threw to gaza and fires at Palestinian fishermen.
But apparently Briton says their our friends in the Arab world |
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"We should all boycott it, because off its current military dictator.
Overthrew the elected government and sentenced it's leaders to death for crimes against the state, where 178 people were tried at the same time.
Oppressing all opposition,
refuses to let aid threw to gaza and fires at Palestinian fishermen.
But apparently Briton says their our friends in the Arab world"
You really shouldn't believe everything you read in the daily mail you know. I'm Egyptian, and i was there on the ground through out the entire Egyptian revolution. The "elected" official was a Muslim Brotherhood member who was taking the country down the rabbit hole. The military did not overthrow him, the people did. MILLIONS -not an exaggeration- of people took to the street demanding he steps down after just one year of his shitty rule, and the Egyptian Army obliged. First by giving him a 48 hour period to get his shit together, resign his government and show that he is really willig to work for the people of Egypt and not for good of the fucking brotherhood. He did nothing. So he was arrested and overthrow, based on the wishes of the Egyptian people. Those 178 people you talk about are terriorist leaders of the muslim brotherhood who swore allegiance to ISIS, and the death sentences were not carried out. They are still alive and rotting in prison they way they should be. About Gaza, no country arab or otherwise gives more aid to Palestine than Egypt. But it's pretty fucking difficult to the difference between friend or foe over there, specially with many radicals taking stronghold in Gaza. Which shares its borders with Egypt. So get your facts straight before spewing shit like that. And don't believe everythjng you see and hear on the news.
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I wouldn't want to go there regardless of what was going on. Everyone I know who has been had chronic sickness and diarrhea. I've been to Tunisia and had their version,I'd rather go back there and be a bit immune (hopefully). I've never fancy going into tombs and I can't walk around all day any more so I can sit on a lovely beach or beside a pool in Tunisia that has a much shorter flight time. |
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