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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?
A fantasy about someone dying in my arms? No, can;t say I have"
No silly, dying in their arms. Right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ah,
I just died in your arms tonight.
Must have been something you said.
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In reality, no. I've always believed I'll die alone. Though I've fantasised about ways I would die happy.
Such a cheerful post |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?
A fantasy about someone dying in my arms? No, can;t say I have
No silly, dying in their arms. Right?"
That's how i read it too. The answer is still a fuck off no either way!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?
A fantasy about someone dying in my arms? No, can;t say I have
No silly, dying in their arms. Right?"
The word 'their' was a bit of a giveaway as to who'd be doing the dying.
Hint: It's not them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Never heard of it before, sounds kind of nice - a little bit.
I did think i'd not want to die in anyone's arms, but after thinking a bit about it i want to die in the arms of people who've hurt me, but i still love them, and then they know i've truly forgiven them for what they've done to me and don't punish themselves for their rest of their life with guilt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No. Except in the sense I'd like to grow old with them and be the first to go rather than the one left behind, but I'm not sure that counts as a fantasy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Never heard of it before, sounds kind of nice - a little bit.
I did think i'd not want to die in anyone's arms, but after thinking a bit about it i want to die in the arms of people who've hurt me, but i still love them, and then they know i've truly forgiven them for what they've done to me and don't punish themselves for their rest of their life with guilt."
Nicely described, I'm not sure mine are exactly the same, but still similar - it seems everyone else managed to miss the point spectacularly... |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"Ah,
I just died in your arms tonight.
Must have been something you said.
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In reality, no. I've always believed I'll die alone. Though I've fantasised about ways I would die happy.
Such a cheerful post "
We all die alone..
cheerful thought for the day... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Never heard of it before, sounds kind of nice - a little bit.
I did think i'd not want to die in anyone's arms, but after thinking a bit about it i want to die in the arms of people who've hurt me, but i still love them, and then they know i've truly forgiven them for what they've done to me and don't punish themselves for their rest of their life with guilt.
Nicely described, I'm not sure mine are exactly the same, but still similar - it seems everyone else managed to miss the point spectacularly..."
No. Not missed the point at all. Just don't fantasise about dying. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hmm
Sorry to sound boring but I've not fantasised about dying either.....in a lovers arms or anywhere else...
The closest thing I can relate with is becoming undead after an encounter with a super hot vampirella type creature of the night...but that's not something I replay in my mind when I'm stroking my self to a frenzied orgasm....
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"Never heard of it before, sounds kind of nice - a little bit.
I did think i'd not want to die in anyone's arms, but after thinking a bit about it i want to die in the arms of people who've hurt me, but i still love them, and then they know i've truly forgiven them for what they've done to me and don't punish themselves for their rest of their life with guilt.
Nicely described, I'm not sure mine are exactly the same, but still similar - it seems everyone else managed to miss the point spectacularly...
No. Not missed the point at all. Just don't fantasise about dying. "
My thought exactly. How could this possibly be anyone's fantasy?! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing the OP means a non-sexual fantasy, as in it would be a comforting and peaceful way to go.
...hopefully?
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It's more of a passionate/emotional/love thing, rather than a simple sexual fantasy, I certainly won't be showing up to any meets and shooting myself just to indulge it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's deeply moving when you're with someone until the end but it is nothing on the sexual spectrum. Thoughts and hugs to anyone who's had losses that are still painful."
I think I agree. It's not a sexual fantasy, however, it's something that can be fantasised about still because of that feeling of bonding in your final moments.
Also sharing thoughts and hugs with people who have experienced loss and/or wished for to die in the arms of someone else, or at all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Truthfully, I'm not a fan of dying so have rarely if ever considered a scenario within which I shall cease to be alive...
When it happens...I hope it's noble and I'm remembered well |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing the OP means a non-sexual fantasy, as in it would be a comforting and peaceful way to go.
...hopefully?
It's more of a passionate/emotional/love thing, rather than a simple sexual fantasy, I certainly won't be showing up to any meets and shooting myself just to indulge it."
I think then you have chosen your words badly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing the OP means a non-sexual fantasy, as in it would be a comforting and peaceful way to go.
...hopefully?
It's more of a passionate/emotional/love thing, rather than a simple sexual fantasy, I certainly won't be showing up to any meets and shooting myself just to indulge it."
Yeah, I don't think the meet would leave a good veri if you did that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I held my sister's hand as she died. I'd like to think it helped her. Even just a little bit.
A touching and noble gesture "
Nothing noble. Its what family's for. But ta. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing the OP means a non-sexual fantasy, as in it would be a comforting and peaceful way to go.
...hopefully?
It's more of a passionate/emotional/love thing, rather than a simple sexual fantasy, I certainly won't be showing up to any meets and shooting myself just to indulge it.
I think then you have chosen your words badly"
Or people simply read ones which weren't there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ah, ok. I get it now.
No. This isn't something I think about. However, I hope that I die quickly and alone. Hopefully while sleeping. So no, I guess I want the opposite of the OP.
-Courtney |
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there."
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word? "
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I held my sister's hand as she died. I'd like to think it helped her. Even just a little bit.
I'm sure it did. Not easy for you though."
Belive me, it's easy. Maybe not afterwards. |
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?" . I prefer to live in the real world and not have fantasies. I don't think anyone should be having a fantasy about dying in someone's arms . It is not really acceptable to fantasize about such issues .
If this were to happen in real life , it would be deeply upsetting . It is hardly a topic for fantasies . |
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No but I can imagine someone with very low self esteem , without any experience that forged a sense of their own worth imagining the only way they could experience the love substitute of arousing an emotional response in the object of their desire to be desperate enough to. |
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used"
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word? "
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
The fear of dying alone scares the bejeezus out of me.
A fantasy is exactly what I'd call it because it saved my sanity when I needed sanity most |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense."
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"the only way they could experience the love substitute of arousing an emotional response in the object of their desire to be desperate enough to. "
Actually sounds rather romantic, shame you had to tack the previous bit on to suit your own desire to lash out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyway. In answer to the op, no. I wouldn't like to be in the arms of some dream person. I would like to think that those that i love were able to say their goodbyes but i wouldn't want them sitting there waiting for me to die. That is a hard thing to do. |
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By *onnie55Man
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing the OP means a non-sexual fantasy, as in it would be a comforting and peaceful way to go.
...hopefully?
It's more of a passionate/emotional/love thing, rather than a simple sexual fantasy, I certainly won't be showing up to any meets and shooting myself just to indulge it.
I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there."
Let me get this right: you're asking if any of us has had a fantasy about dying in the arms of our 'dream' man/woman? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney"
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As it's you asking SB I am going to assume you don't mean literally die,but have some kind of deep,meaningful,spiritually charged sexual encounter with the person of your dreams,in your dreams.
No,I don't fantasise. |
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney"
Yup... I think we understand what was meant now. It's a good example of how things can be misread though. Would anyone choose to die alone... I definitely hope I'm not on my own, devoured by my cat! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyway. In answer to the op, no. I wouldn't like to be in the arms of some dream person. I would like to think that those that i love were able to say their goodbyes but i wouldn't want them sitting there waiting for me to die. That is a hard thing to do." its the worst thing in the world to do
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?. I prefer to live in the real world and not have fantasies. I don't think anyone should be having a fantasy about dying in someone's arms . It is not really acceptable to fantasize about such issues .
If this were to happen in real life , it would be deeply upsetting . It is hardly a topic for fantasies ."
Why is it not acceptable to fantasise?
And can you actually stop a fantasy?
You cannot chain the mind to a stone and stop it flying free
I see this fantasy as no different to a fantasy of sex, or a fantasy of a dream job, or dream home, because the mind is telling you what it needs in an abstract fashion, whether it be love, acceptance, or just someone to hold your hand when all hope is gone |
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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago
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Having had my husband die in my arms, theres no fucking way I would want to put anyone else through that utterly horrendous fucking shit for the rest of their life!!
Best way I would want to go would be after ive said to a few mates round a pub *here mate - hold my beer and watch this!* then they could applaud my stupidity thinking I could spiderman up a wall, and have a laugh when talking about it and my awesome taste in beer afterwards.
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney"
I didn't read 'sexual fantasy' myself. I just read 'fantasy' and was confused! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there. "
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy." |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there.
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy.""
No. Just the word fantasy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there.
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
No. Just the word fantasy. "
I can read |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Having had my husband die in my arms, theres no fucking way I would want to put anyone else through that utterly horrendous fucking shit for the rest of their life!!
Best way I would want to go would be after ive said to a few mates round a pub *here mate - hold my beer and watch this!* then they could applaud my stupidity thinking I could spiderman up a wall, and have a laugh when talking about it and my awesome taste in beer afterwards.
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That sounds more fun |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy.""
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"As it's you asking SB I am going to assume you don't mean literally die,but have some kind of deep,meaningful,spiritually charged sexual encounter with the person of your dreams,in your dreams.
No,I don't fantasise. "
Hmmm well, the 'dying' part is a necessary component of the fantasy in order to fully express the deep and meaningful part as you've described, but then the fortunate part of it simply being a fantasy is that it doesn't actually kill you or harm you.
I suppose for me, it provides a sort of cathartic way to sort of experience those deepest, most powerful emotions, and interestingly some have referenced a particularly song in this thread, I'd imagine the lyrics aren't about LITERALLY dying, but look how many songs and poems have touched on the same/similar topic throughout the years. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there.
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
No. Just the word fantasy. "
If you look at some of the early posts, plenty of people read the word "sexual" into it. I think that's what he was talking about. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Or,it's like fantasising about a death scene like the one in Les Mis where Eponine dies in Marius's arms after taking a bullet for him. "
I've never seen/read it but if there was love between them - bullseye |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Having had my husband die in my arms, theres no fucking way I would want to put anyone else through that utterly horrendous fucking shit for the rest of their life!!
Best way I would want to go would be after ive said to a few mates round a pub *here mate - hold my beer and watch this!* then they could applaud my stupidity thinking I could spiderman up a wall, and have a laugh when talking about it and my awesome taste in beer afterwards.
" mine was hooked up with different wires could only hold his hand ....anyone who think it would be nice to see someone die....in arms or not must be mad. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there.
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
No. Just the word fantasy.
If you look at some of the early posts, plenty of people read the word "sexual" into it. I think that's what he was talking about. "
But he was specifically responding to my point therefore i took it to mean i wasn't reading the words. Not sure why you have such an issue with my questioning the op in response to a comment he made responding to one of my comments tbh |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context. "
Being the old romantic SB is he could be thinking along the lines of Robin and Marion or Romeo and Juliet (although they didn't actually see each other die). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think then you have chosen your words badly
Or people simply read ones which weren't there.
If you'd elaborated slightly, it would have made more sense. If I'm honest, I think 'fantasy' was probably the wrong word?
Exactly my point. And I don't think anyone is imagining that the word fantasy was used
You take the word fantasy out of the original post and the thing would have made a lot more sense.
I agree with you. But he also didn't say "sexual fantasy," so that was read into it.
He poorly chose his words, but has since explained. So, isn't that enough?
-Courtney
He was the one saying we were reading what wasn't there.
Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
No. Just the word fantasy.
If you look at some of the early posts, plenty of people read the word "sexual" into it. I think that's what he was talking about. "
Thankyou Courtney - though I don't see that as a 'poor' choice of words on my part, I simply forget sometimes that not everyone 'gets' my way of thinking. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'."
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things' |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But he was specifically responding to my point therefore i took it to mean i wasn't reading the words. Not sure why you have such an issue with my questioning the op in response to a comment he made responding to one of my comments tbh "
I don't have an issue with it. I was trying to help clarify. Apologies.
-Courtney |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context.
Being the old romantic SB is he could be thinking along the lines of Robin and Marion or Romeo and Juliet (although they didn't actually see each other die)."
But didn't those two turn out entirely differently? Everyone knows Romeo and Juliet end in tragedy, but as far as I'm aware Robin Hood and Marian get a wholesome and happy ending. |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context. "
There's nothing pleasurable about it.
Imo fantasies are anything the mind constructs without any memories, so perceiving something that may happen in the future is a fantasy because there is no certainty of a result, no matter how well planned a circumstance may be (re: dream house), so they are indifferent and just exist, and the feelings we get as a result are how we define what we call it (e.g. nightmare, fantasy etc) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd like to hope that I am there if my family and loved ones need me , but no way will I fantasize about death , too many of my loved ones have died already , and 4 in the last year as well as others throughout my life , I have also held a very good friends hand as they died a few years back |
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'.
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things'"
The wonderful English language allows for words to have multiple meanings. Context is important.
The context of this thread is that you said *fantasy* on a sex site.
To add to the context, you said with your dream man or woman. On here that also carries a pretty fucking obvious sexual element. |
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'.
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things'"
I still think you could have used a clearer word OP. Could have probably saved us about 60 posts as well!
Interesting question though once I understood it! I'll give you that. Something original on here for a change is always good |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context.
There's nothing pleasurable about it.
Imo fantasies are anything the mind constructs without any memories, so perceiving something that may happen in the future is a fantasy because there is no certainty of a result, no matter how well planned a circumstance may be (re: dream house), so they are indifferent and just exist, and the feelings we get as a result are how we define what we call it (e.g. nightmare, fantasy etc)"
I understand that but I don't fantasise about unpleasant things happening. A fantasy, for me, has always been good things. Fantasising about winning the lottery or a dream house or love or great sex. I don't fantasise about my death or anyone else's. I sometimes worry about my parents but I would never use that word within that context. It just isn't the way my mind works. |
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'.
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things'
I still think you could have used a clearer word OP. Could have probably saved us about 60 posts as well!
Interesting question though once I understood it! I'll give you that. Something original on here for a change is always good "
If you like originality you can always go have a read of my Yaoi wowie thread, it sank like a man with lead testicles. |
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"Never heard of it before, sounds kind of nice - a little bit.
I did think i'd not want to die in anyone's arms, but after thinking a bit about it i want to die in the arms of people who've hurt me, but i still love them, and then they know i've truly forgiven them for what they've done to me and don't punish themselves for their rest of their life with guilt.
Nicely described, I'm not sure mine are exactly the same, but still similar - it seems everyone else managed to miss the point spectacularly..."
You've probably been mass blocked for being a suspect serial killer.
Mine's not the same as yours, no. The people i'm thinking about aren't in my life right now and aren't allowed to be. I still love them, just love myself more. But if i'm gonna die anyway might as well let them know i never hated them, not sure they even care tbh but they can't hurt me when i'm dead. |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context.
Being the old romantic SB is he could be thinking along the lines of Robin and Marion or Romeo and Juliet (although they didn't actually see each other die).
But didn't those two turn out entirely differently? Everyone knows Romeo and Juliet end in tragedy, but as far as I'm aware Robin Hood and Marian get a wholesome and happy ending."
Ok OP.. Clear it all up for us. You asked whether anyone else had this fantasy, so you obviously have. Tell us about it.. |
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'.
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things'
I still think you could have used a clearer word OP. Could have probably saved us about 60 posts as well!
Interesting question though once I understood it! I'll give you that. Something original on here for a change is always good "
Fantasy is a perfectly good word to use normally as, psychologically speaking, it is a series of mental images that gratify an unfulfilled need. The issue is the context of using it on a sex site, where the assumptions around it's meaning are coloured by the context. |
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"I think I now know what the OP was getting at. It was just the word 'fantasy' threw me. No one has 'a fantasy' about such things surely?! 'A thought' yes, but not 'a fantasy'.
FANTASY - Noun -
'the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things'
The wonderful English language allows for words to have multiple meanings. Context is important.
The context of this thread is that you said *fantasy* on a sex site.
To add to the context, you said with your dream man or woman. On here that also carries a pretty fucking obvious sexual element. " |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context.
There's nothing pleasurable about it.
Imo fantasies are anything the mind constructs without any memories, so perceiving something that may happen in the future is a fantasy because there is no certainty of a result, no matter how well planned a circumstance may be (re: dream house), so they are indifferent and just exist, and the feelings we get as a result are how we define what we call it (e.g. nightmare, fantasy etc)
I understand that but I don't fantasise about unpleasant things happening. A fantasy, for me, has always been good things. Fantasising about winning the lottery or a dream house or love or great sex. I don't fantasise about my death or anyone else's. I sometimes worry about my parents but I would never use that word within that context. It just isn't the way my mind works. "
Yes, I understand DG. I have a different opinion |
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"the only way they could experience the love substitute of arousing an emotional response in the object of their desire to be desperate enough to.
Actually sounds rather romantic, shame you had to tack the previous bit on to suit your own desire to lash out."
I responded to your post. I didn't lash out as you put it.
Don't make personal comments about people. Especially in public. |
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Yes. The word "sexual" in front of "fantasy."
I didn't read 'sexual' either. To me, I always think of a fantasy as a pleasant thing. I can't imagine death being a pleasant thing if that makes any sense. Hence I was confused by the context.
Being the old romantic SB is he could be thinking along the lines of Robin and Marion or Romeo and Juliet (although they didn't actually see each other die).
But didn't those two turn out entirely differently? Everyone knows Romeo and Juliet end in tragedy, but as far as I'm aware Robin Hood and Marian get a wholesome and happy ending."
No,Robin was dying in Marion's arms and shot an arrow. Where it landed was where he wanted to be buried. |
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And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death. |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death."
Lol - still think it's weird |
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"Or,it's like fantasising about a death scene like the one in Les Mis where Eponine dies in Marius's arms after taking a bullet for him.
I've never seen/read it but if there was love between them - bullseye "
She loved him,unfortunately his love for her was of the brotherly type. But,she got to be close to him at the end and the words were sung "I'll sleep in your embrace at last" as she is dying. |
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"Or,it's like fantasising about a death scene like the one in Les Mis where Eponine dies in Marius's arms after taking a bullet for him.
I've never seen/read it but if there was love between them - bullseye
But,she got to be close to him at the end and the words were sung "I'll sleep in your embrace at last" as she is dying. "
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"As in, your dream man or woman...anyone else ever had this fantasy?"
2 words wrong with this brain, "dream" and "fantasy". Start a new one with less oddness. Good idea. But badly executed....if you'll pardon the pun.... |
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"Or,it's like fantasising about a death scene like the one in Les Mis where Eponine dies in Marius's arms after taking a bullet for him.
I've never seen/read it but if there was love between them - bullseye
She loved him,unfortunately his love for her was of the brotherly type. But,she got to be close to him at the end and the words were sung "I'll sleep in your embrace at last" as she is dying. "
Unconditional love is the kind of love this kind of idea brings to mind imo.
Someone is willing to be there beside you as your life fades away.
Had the roles been reversed, it would have happened much the same.
I think that is why this idea is such a compelling concept, and has been since tales were first told. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the wealth of literature involving such acts, (spoiler alert) referencing frozen as a recent example |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird"
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it. |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it."
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
I didn't mean you "
Accept my weirdness... |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it."
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next"
No idea, i'm not into traditions that much nor take them seriously. I know about day of the dead in south america, only coz it's a tattoo theme though.
We tend to grieve privately don't we, it's embarrassing to do it openly. It's kind of embarrassing to have any emotions really if you're british i reckon, stiff upper lip and all that kind of thing.
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next
No idea, i'm not into traditions that much nor take them seriously. I know about day of the dead in south america, only coz it's a tattoo theme though.
We tend to grieve privately don't we, it's embarrassing to do it openly. It's kind of embarrassing to have any emotions really if you're british i reckon, stiff upper lip and all that kind of thing.
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Bollocks to that. I've held in emotions before and been in a really bad way as a result. If I need to cry, I'm gonna cry. If it's not as urgent as someone else crying, I'll just do it quietly |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
I didn't mean you
Accept my weirdness... "
Accepted, no questions |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next
No idea, i'm not into traditions that much nor take them seriously. I know about day of the dead in south america, only coz it's a tattoo theme though.
We tend to grieve privately don't we, it's embarrassing to do it openly. It's kind of embarrassing to have any emotions really if you're british i reckon, stiff upper lip and all that kind of thing.
Bollocks to that. I've held in emotions before and been in a really bad way as a result. If I need to cry, I'm gonna cry. If it's not as urgent as someone else crying, I'll just do it quietly" whilst I comfort them |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next
No idea, i'm not into traditions that much nor take them seriously. I know about day of the dead in south america, only coz it's a tattoo theme though.
We tend to grieve privately don't we, it's embarrassing to do it openly. It's kind of embarrassing to have any emotions really if you're british i reckon, stiff upper lip and all that kind of thing.
Bollocks to that. I've held in emotions before and been in a really bad way as a result. If I need to cry, I'm gonna cry. If it's not as urgent as someone else crying, I'll just do it quietly whilst I comfort them"
I do it in public sometimes, i don't make any sound either so nobody notices anyway, or i can pretend i've got something in my eye if they do. I don't expect strangers to give a shit and they tend not to so it's not harming anyone really.
It is nice when people cry with you, dunno why but it just is. I need a cry buddy as well as cuddle buddies and fuck buddies. I'm too needy lol.
Thanks Joe for the acceptance, i saw it. |
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"And after reading the whole thread i see a lot of people just don't think about how they're going to die, or how they'd want to.
Got a vibe at first that people thought OP meant someone die in his arms.
I think it's ok to fantasize about your own death and having a nice one and much better than fantasizing about a realistic death.
Lol - still think it's weird
You made me laugh coz i probably am weird...but it honestly doesn't bother me if people fantasize about their own death. I think it's why we often aren't comfortable around grieving people, because death makes us uncomfortable and we don't think about it.
On that note, that's what Halloween was originally for wasn't it?
To assist spirits attempting to make the transition from this plane of existence to the next
No idea, i'm not into traditions that much nor take them seriously. I know about day of the dead in south america, only coz it's a tattoo theme though.
We tend to grieve privately don't we, it's embarrassing to do it openly. It's kind of embarrassing to have any emotions really if you're british i reckon, stiff upper lip and all that kind of thing.
Bollocks to that. I've held in emotions before and been in a really bad way as a result. If I need to cry, I'm gonna cry. If it's not as urgent as someone else crying, I'll just do it quietly whilst I comfort them
I do it in public sometimes, i don't make any sound either so nobody notices anyway, or i can pretend i've got something in my eye if they do. I don't expect strangers to give a shit and they tend not to so it's not harming anyone really.
It is nice when people cry with you, dunno why but it just is. I need a cry buddy as well as cuddle buddies and fuck buddies. I'm too needy lol.
Thanks Joe for the acceptance, i saw it."
Most people can benefit from crying now and again
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Haven't read the whole thread just the title..Wouldn't call it a fantasy and I had it for real 7 years ago...to say my life died there and then and I was shattered into pieces is an understatement. Would not wish it on anyone and I certainly wouldn't call it a fantasy |
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"Just me or has everyone "dying in THIER arms" as "dying in YOUR arms?
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Neither: their
I think most people had it as the OP having the romantic fantasy of dying in the arms of his dream lady love. |
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"Haven't read the whole thread just the title..Wouldn't call it a fantasy and I had it for real 7 years ago...to say my life died there and then and I was shattered into pieces is an understatement. Would not wish it on anyone and I certainly wouldn't call it a fantasy "
I understand, but the word fantasy is used in a more literal sense which has led to confusion and debate, a different wording might be
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"Just me or has everyone "dying in THIER arms" as "dying in YOUR arms?
Neither: their
I think most people had it as the OP having the romantic fantasy of dying in the arms of his dream lady love."
So why did most people respond about how they found it weird he was fantasising about someone dying in his arms. |
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"Just me or has everyone "dying in THIER arms" as "dying in YOUR arms?
Neither: their
I think most people had it as the OP having the romantic fantasy of dying in the arms of his dream lady love.
So why did most people respond about how they found it weird he was fantasising about someone dying in his arms. "
Well I'm certainly not re-reading this fucked up shit, but last night people were adding their experiences of death. And for that to happen the living person not the dead person does the writing. Hence the change of perspective. |
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