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By *etzPlayCouple
over a year ago
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"they want that black guy who plays Luther and is in Thor to do it, I like his voice
Idris Elba. He's sexy as fuck "
but he should keep his gold eyes from Thor and spend the whole film speaking lol x |
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Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor, |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
MLK was a real person. Bond is a fictional character. You know Ira Aldridge was driven off the stage by daring to play Othello. Apparently, it was wrong for a black man to try and play a fictional black character. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Michael Fassbender"
Yes,absolutely,I've been saying this to anyone who'll listen. Fassbender would be excellent.
I think Craig is a very good Bond - closer to the original. |
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"Michael Fassbender
Yes,absolutely,I've been saying this to anyone who'll listen. Fassbender would be excellent.
I think Craig is a very good Bond - closer to the original."
DC has been the best so far and I grew up a massive connery fan. Good looking with a rough edge seems to work and Fassbender is a perfect fit for me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
It's not racist at all. Idris Elba as Bond wouldn't work just as Brad Pitt wouldn't work as Shaft....Institutions both of those characters. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tom Hardy and Damien Lewis are such safe boring castings. They should push the character forward in age, I'd love to see an older grizzled, ex serviceman kind of Bond. Go for someone like Iain Glen, or of similar age and distinction. |
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Another Bond!
What is going on? First we had Connery,he lasted 10 years (20 years if you count never say never again)and 7 films. Then Moore (we'll gloss over Lazenby), he was good for 12 years and another 7 films. then things go down hill...
Dalton 2 films, Brosnan 4 films, Danial Craig another 4 films...
Maybe they will find someone who can last more than 4 films.  |
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
I know a few people who say the same thing. And it's not racially motivated by them either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Another Bond!
What is going on? First we had Connery,he lasted 10 years (20 years if you count never say never again)and 7 films. Then Moore (we'll gloss over Lazenby), he was good for 12 years and another 7 films. then things go down hill...
Dalton 2 films, Brosnan 4 films, Danial Craig another 4 films...
Maybe they will find someone who can last more than 4 films. "
It's because of the time taken for modern films, in the same space of time Craig's made 4 as Moore made 7 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hugh Jackman would have made an awesome Bond, but he's too old now
Chris Hemsworth would be good as well. Very good looking and can act.... 2 things Daniel Craig cant offer |
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"Another Bond!
What is going on? First we had Connery,he lasted 10 years (20 years if you count never say never again)and 7 films. Then Moore (we'll gloss over Lazenby), he was good for 12 years and another 7 films. then things go down hill...
Dalton 2 films, Brosnan 4 films, Danial Craig another 4 films...
Maybe they will find someone who can last more than 4 films.
It's because of the time taken for modern films, in the same space of time Craig's made 4 as Moore made 7"
Not to mention that the films now days are more physically demanding on the actors. Bond has a lack of cgi (thank God. Yes I know they have a bit but not to the extent of the avengers) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tom hardy cant be James Bond he's too short lol n rough looks Mr handsome Henry Cavil is perfect very tall darks looks classy with gorgeous blue eyes and omg fit body mm"
Hardy is only an inch shorter than Craig.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've never liked Craig as Bond.
He is nothing like I imagine Bond to be. He was a naval commander, he should be suave, maybe have an air of gentry about him. Daniel Craig just seems like a cockney pickpocket dragged off the streets of London and every time I see him drive an Aston Martin I get the impression he's nicked it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its a forum for opinion ....everyones opinion even mine....jude law"
It is
Your opinions are always welcome, but in the right context
It's not as if the forums are lacking in threads where you can discuss your political or social opinions is it ?
It doesn't mean we have to turn innocuous threads such as this into an excuse for a mini rant.
You could have just said 'Jude Law' without airing your views on discrimination policy
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hugh Jackman would have made an awesome Bond, but he's too old now
Chris Hemsworth would be good as well. Very good looking and can act.... 2 things Daniel Craig cant offer"
Ha ha and your wtf at my suggestion, neither one of them can act, if they made bond the musical jackman would be a good choice lol |
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"who would be good if Daniel craig don't do another?"
While I think he is a smashing actor I would not like Idris Elba as Bond.James Bond was written as a white chatracter and while the PC brigade may push for this to change it should not happen,for example John Shaft is a black detective and should never ever be portrayed by a person of another colour/ethnicity.I have even heard people saying why not make Bond a woman? Are white men so bad that we need to be removed from equations so as to appease others? |
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"who would be good if Daniel craig don't do another?
While I think he is a smashing actor I would not like Idris Elba as Bond.James Bond was written as a white chatracter and while the PC brigade may push for this to change it should not happen,for example John Shaft is a black detective and should never ever be portrayed by a person of another colour/ethnicity.I have even heard people saying why not make Bond a woman? Are white men so bad that we need to be removed from equations so as to appease others?"
Haven't you heard? Straight, white males are the devil! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
I totally agree. Bond is a white man and shouldn't be changed. We wouldn't expect Shaft to be played by a white person. Or B A from the A team to be white. So why change bond? |
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"who would be good if Daniel craig don't do another?
While I think he is a smashing actor I would not like Idris Elba as Bond.James Bond was written as a white chatracter and while the PC brigade may push for this to change it should not happen,for example John Shaft is a black detective and should never ever be portrayed by a person of another colour/ethnicity.I have even heard people saying why not make Bond a woman? Are white men so bad that we need to be removed from equations so as to appease others?
Haven't you heard? Straight, white males are the devil!"
Na we make the devil look like a kitten/puppy mix  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,
I totally agree. Bond is a white man and shouldn't be changed. We wouldn't expect Shaft to be played by a white person. Or B A from the A team to be white. So why change bond?"
I never considered Bond's ethnicity to be defining factor of his character...
Seems like there are two camps:
Those that see Bond as a white man who is suave, charming et al
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Those who see Bond as a suave and charming person who happens to be a white man |
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,
I totally agree. Bond is a white man and shouldn't be changed. We wouldn't expect Shaft to be played by a white person. Or B A from the A team to be white. So why change bond?
I never considered Bond's ethnicity to be defining factor of his character...
Seems like there are two camps:
Those that see Bond as a white man who is suave, charming et al
And
Those who see Bond as a suave and charming person who happens to be a white man"
Well in both camps he is a white man and that should not change IMO |
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,
I totally agree. Bond is a white man and shouldn't be changed. We wouldn't expect Shaft to be played by a white person. Or B A from the A team to be white. So why change bond?
I never considered Bond's ethnicity to be defining factor of his character...
Seems like there are two camps:
Those that see Bond as a white man who is suave, charming et al
And
Those who see Bond as a suave and charming person who happens to be a white man
Well in both camps he is a white man and that should not change IMO "
Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way. |
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way. "
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should not negate the whole foundation of the character |
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way.
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should
not negate the whole foundation of
thecharacter "
Gosh, yes, it would be terrible if Bond became somehow unbelievable wouldn't it? Up until now, it has always been so Kitchen Sink   |
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way.
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should
not negate the whole foundation of
thecharacter
Gosh, yes, it would be terrible if Bond became somehow unbelievable wouldn't it? Up until now, it has always been so Kitchen Sink  "
Try reading the books not judging by the movies. |
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"What next a samoan Sherlock Holmes running around victorian era London with a chinese lesbian dwarf Holmes as a sidekick? The character should remain as they were created,this is not a race or gender issue but an issue of why the hell change things just to appease a group of people or for changes sake?"
Meant to say Watson as sidekick my bad. |
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way.
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go
undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the
character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should
not negate the whole foundation of
thecharacter
Gosh, yes, it would be terrible if Bond
became somehow unbelievable wouldn't it? Up until now, it has always been so Kitchen Sink 
Try reading the books not judging by the movies. "
I thought we were talking about who was best to take a lead in the movies - which, if you have read the books as I have, are very far removed? It's amazing how Moore et al fitted in with their incredible Russian accents.
In the current geopolitical climate we would probably be best having a Muslim, or at least an Asian Bond, n'est pas? |
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way.
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go
undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the
character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should
not negate the whole foundation of
thecharacter
Gosh, yes, it would be terrible if Bond
became somehow unbelievable wouldn't it? Up until now, it has always been so Kitchen Sink 
Try reading the books not judging by the movies.
I thought we were talking about who was best to take a lead in the movies - which, if you have read the books as I have, are very far removed? It's amazing how Moore et al fitted in with their incredible Russian accents.
In the current geopolitical climate we would probably be best having a Muslim, or at least an Asian Bond, n'est pas?"
The foundation of the books is where the Bond legacy is created and as such he should remain a white man. |
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"Prob going to get shot down in flames and i would just like to state i am in no way racist but james bond is a typical stereotype of a well educated British white gent, i am in no way racist but in my opinion casting idris elba is a wrong move, after all nobody would ever think of making a film where martin luther king played by a white actor,"
James Bond is portrait as English . The character is fictional and Mi6 and Mi5 have people and agents on their books that go from looking like Mr bean to Osama Bin Laden. Think about it!  |
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Fair play...
I guess, for me, the characters ethnicity is so inconsequential, particularly in relation to his other attributes, that I wouldn't be fussed either way.
of course his ethnicity is of consequence,he was created as a spy for the british secret service to go
undercover and infiltrate organisations,now as a white man in thet era he can pass pretty much most scrutiny if he stays in character but could a person of a different ethnicity do the same at the time he was created? I doubt it so therefore the
character is quintessentially a white male who is suave and sophisticated by the standards of the day,just because we are now in a different era should
not negate the whole foundation of
thecharacter
Gosh, yes, it would be terrible if Bond
became somehow unbelievable wouldn't it? Up until now, it has always been so Kitchen Sink 
Try reading the books not judging by the movies.
I thought we were talking about who was best to take a lead in the movies - which, if you have read the books as I have, are very far removed? It's amazing how Moore et al fitted in with their incredible Russian accents.
In the current geopolitical climate we would probably be best having a Muslim, or at least an Asian Bond, n'est pas?"
No can do I'm afraid. They shot Osama Bin Laden a couple of years ago |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Michael Fassbender
Yes,absolutely,I've been saying this to anyone who'll listen. Fassbender would be excellent.
I think Craig is a very good Bond - closer to the original."
I'm for Fassbender, watch this clip and see why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFtoz9sERo |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would be good, the names Bond, James Bond. I'll have a vodka martini, shaken but not spilled."
There's a line in one of the films where a women on water skis says " sorry Mr Bond, I've made you all wet", and Bond replies, " yes, but my martini is still dry", Classic.  |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If Richard Armitage was cast as Bond I would definately watch the films.
Never watched a full one yet.
I love Richard Armitage. Mmmmmmmmm"
I think if they cast Armitage Shanks, a lot of people would still watch the films.  |
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"If Richard Armitage was cast as Bond I would definately watch the films.
Never watched a full one yet.
I love Richard Armitage. Mmmmmmmmm
I think if they cast Armitage Shanks, a lot of people would still watch the films. "
Nah the acting would be piss poor and porcelain x |
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"Spectre is beautiful, just no story "
There is a story as it links the new films back to the original ones... It also links all the Daniel Craig movies.. |
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By *etzPlayCouple
over a year ago
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"Spectre is beautiful, just no story
There is a story as it links the new films back to the original ones... It also links all the Daniel Craig movies.. "
No, it's shit. I've just come back from seeing it and I was trying to be polite x |
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Spectre was good, linked all old films etc, but the film lasted too long for the storyline. Wasn't as good as Skyfall which had lower expectations and also had the added storyline of going back to Bond's roots and also losing the wonderful Dame Judi Dench's character M.
In terms of next Bond, I'm hoping for Damian Lewis, as I've been told by a few people I look like him! I'd love to look like a Bond! Sadly I don't think I quite have the look though! |
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"Spectre is beautiful, just no story
There is a story as it links the new films back to the original ones... It also links all the Daniel Craig movies..
No, it's shit. I've just come back from seeing it and I was trying to be polite x"
I had already seen it too.. |
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Can't sleep, but got to dissect some of these choices with some plain common sense:
Idris Elba - too black
Tom Hardy - too odd-looking
Damien Lewis - too ginger
Iain Glen - too old
Jason Statham - too Cockney, too bald
Tom Hiddleston - too puny
Charlie Hunnam - too Dick Van Dyke
Richard Armitage - too beaky
Which leaves Henry Cavill or Michael Fassbender. Neither are perfect, but could do a decent job, albeit in a George Lazenby kind of way.
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