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"I've had them for as long as I can remember about 15 years and never missed, had this years last Wednesday at the chemist for the first time. I've never felt a thing and never had a reaction although I was suffering a cold when I had it this year but they still did it " It was painless, normally i feel a little prick.......  | |||
"I've had them for as long as I can remember about 15 years and never missed, had this years last Wednesday at the chemist for the first time. I've never felt a thing and never had a reaction although I was suffering a cold when I had it this year but they still did it It was painless, normally i feel a little prick....... "I've also had the pneumonia jab bit that lasts ten years and apparently you can feel a bit I'll after but I didnt | |||
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"Who's had this year's? Did you have last year's? And did it work? I didn't get ill last year so I'm marking it as a success!" I didn't get ill and I never had it is it all fantasy !!  | |||
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"I've had them for as long as I can remember about 15 years and never missed, had this years last Wednesday at the chemist for the first time. I've never felt a thing and never had a reaction although I was suffering a cold when I had it this year but they still did it It was painless, normally i feel a little prick....... "So tempting... | |||
"I had mine last week and was fine got to have a pneumonia one tomorrow woohoo lol " there fine just the same as flu jab for me | |||
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"I had mine last week and was fine got to have a pneumonia one tomorrow woohoo lol there fine just the same as flu jab for me " A small prick in your bum?  | |||
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"I've had them for as long as I can remember about 15 years and never missed, had this years last Wednesday at the chemist for the first time. I've never felt a thing and never had a reaction although I was suffering a cold when I had it this year but they still did it It was painless, normally i feel a little prick.......
So tempting..."I stood it up, it WANTS to get knocked down again !  | |||
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"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it." . It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them either" whats the logic behind your reasoning? | |||
"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them either whats the logic behind your reasoning? " . There's known risks with every vaccine, you need to weigh the pros against the cons | |||
"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons" 
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that. | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them either" and your partner,would they get a say in the matter? | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them eitherand your partner,would they get a say in the matter?" of course but id explain all the info first. my step brother had his shot at 10 months... 2 days later significant behavioral change... now has autism. my sister was supposed to have one at school the other day... she didnt get it... everyone around her is sneezing coughing etc etc.. and now shes at home because shes ill... ask a nurse to see the packet... 9/10 times theyll decline access ....but if you do get hold of one play a game called count the carcinogens. lol | |||
"I have mine and my daughters had hers. My daughter had rubella at 10 months old, thanks to idiots not innocculating things like that that were almost irradiated in this country are on the rise again. " . Rubella is a fairly mild illness, like chicken pox, the vaccination was actually intended to cut back cases with pregnant women which can sometimes lead to more serious problems! | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them eitherand your partner,would they get a say in the matter? of course but id explain all the info first. my step brother had his shot at 10 months... 2 days later significant behavioral change... now has autism. my sister was supposed to have one at school the other day... she didnt get it... everyone around her is sneezing coughing etc etc.. and now shes at home because shes ill... ask a nurse to see the packet... 9/10 times theyll decline access ....but if you do get hold of one play a game called count the carcinogens. lol" . The CDC hid evidence for many years that the mmr vaccine had a slight autism risk attached to it. I think when you get stuff like this happening it undermines the faith people have. The evidence should be just explained and then let people make their own minds up. Personally I can see the point of vaccinating against measles but not really for mumps or rubella | |||
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"I had mine last week and was fine got to have a pneumonia one tomorrow woohoo lol there fine just the same as flu jab for me A small prick in your bum? "is that an offer | |||
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"children can have the flu shot from the ages of 6 months.. if a doctor advises it. can check the cdc website "Yes I guessed that might be the case after I posted, hence my deletion. | |||
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"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that. "Scaremongering. You don'yt pump yourself full of anything. There are traces of Formaldehyde in the flu vaccine but normal people have higher levels of Formaldehyde in their bloodstream naturally. In a similar manner we all have more mecury in our systems than the tiny amounts in a dose of flu vaccine. A healthy person will consumme mor mecury in a portion of fish than in a lifetimes flu jabs | |||
"I have mine and my daughters had hers. My daughter had rubella at 10 months old, thanks to idiots not innocculating things like that that were almost irradiated in this country are on the rise again. . Rubella is a fairly mild illness, like chicken pox, the vaccination was actually intended to cut back cases with pregnant women which can sometimes lead to more serious problems!" Wasn't a mind case. She was hospitalised due to her temp being high enough to cause fitting. | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them eitherand your partner,would they get a say in the matter? of course but id explain all the info first. my step brother had his shot at 10 months... 2 days later significant behavioral change... now has autism. my sister was supposed to have one at school the other day... she didnt get it... everyone around her is sneezing coughing etc etc.. and now shes at home because shes ill... ask a nurse to see the packet... 9/10 times theyll decline access ....but if you do get hold of one play a game called count the carcinogens. lol. The CDC hid evidence for many years that the mmr vaccine had a slight autism risk attached to it. I think when you get stuff like this happening it undermines the faith people have. The evidence should be just explained and then let people make their own minds up. Personally I can see the point of vaccinating against measles but not really for mumps or rubella" urban myth | |||
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"Who's had this year's? Did you have last year's? And did it work? I didn't get ill last year so I'm marking it as a success!" Iv had mine this year (had it yesterday) Didn't have one last year, but I did the year before. | |||
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"I have the flu jab every year. The side effects are minimal, maybe a rise in temperature or a heavy feel in the arm. It is a myth that the jab can bring on flu. people also moan that they still get colds. It only protects against the flu so you may still have a heavy cold, it just won't be flu. " exactly, flu and cold are two very different things. | |||
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"I'm tempted again but the last time it gave me a proper cold right after it and I'm still coughing after the last cold.
"The vaccine does not contain any live virus so you can't get flu or a cold from the vaccine. | |||
"I'm tempted again but the last time it gave me a proper cold right after it and I'm still coughing after the last cold.
The vaccine does not contain any live virus so you can't get flu or a cold from the vaccine. "weakened = live... if they werent live they wouldnt spark your immune system to release the b/t cells required to remember the specific strain through antigens. | |||
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"would never get one...won't let my kids (if i ever have any) have them eitherand your partner,would they get a say in the matter? of course but id explain all the info first. my step brother had his shot at 10 months... 2 days later significant behavioral change... now has autism. my sister was supposed to have one at school the other day... she didnt get it... everyone around her is sneezing coughing etc etc.. and now shes at home because shes ill... ask a nurse to see the packet... 9/10 times theyll decline access ....but if you do get hold of one play a game called count the carcinogens. lol. The CDC hid evidence for many years that the mmr vaccine had a slight autism risk attached to it. I think when you get stuff like this happening it undermines the faith people have. The evidence should be just explained and then let people make their own minds up. Personally I can see the point of vaccinating against measles but not really for mumps or rubella urban myth" . The neurological effects of vaccines are not fully known, the cdc hid some data that showed a statistically higher incidents of autism amongst I think (African American children) although I'm not sure it was the mmr vaccine or just vaccines in general. The truth is like I said in the beginning every vaccine carries a risk attached to it, the medical establishment weighs the pros against the cons My personal opinion is that they don't get that right all the time! | |||
"we get flu jabs at the time of year when a lot of people get colds, coughs etc...its pure coincidence if you develop a cold after a jab....there is nothing in it that gives you a cold or flu!" do you know how vaccines work? | |||
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"we get flu jabs at the time of year when a lot of people get colds, coughs etc...its pure coincidence if you develop a cold after a jab....there is nothing in it that gives you a cold or flu! do you know how vaccines work? "yes, i do.any pharmacist or doctor will tell you the flu vaccine will not give you flu, or a cold. | |||
"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons" Yeah i know all that. What i was meaning is that you can't get flu from it ... many people seem to think you can. Many also say they got a cold after having it and that's not true either as it's not a live vacine. They would have got the cold anyway plus the vacine isn't fully working until approx 3 weeks after having it. I have it now cus i am a chronic, not very well controlled asthmatic and i am advised to have it and on the years i havn't had it i have had flu which made me very ill. | |||
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"we get flu jabs at the time of year when a lot of people get colds, coughs etc...its pure coincidence if you develop a cold after a jab....there is nothing in it that gives you a cold or flu! do you know how vaccines work?
yes, i do.any pharmacist or doctor will tell you the flu vaccine will not give you flu, or a cold." | |||
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"Look after your body and it will look after you ,good diet plenty of exercise and your immune system will look after you ,it does me "Sadly that doesn't work for everyone. Being an asthmatic means getting flu is a serious problem and I'm not ready to take that chance as gasping for breath is a very scary thing ! | |||
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"Look after your body and it will look after you ,good diet plenty of exercise and your immune system will look after you ,it does me "maybe your fit and healthy and not classed as a vulnerable person that the free flu jabs are for | |||
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"Look after your body and it will look after you ,good diet plenty of exercise and your immune system will look after you ,it does me maybe your fit and healthy and not classed as a vulnerable person that the free flu jabs are for"People who take immuno-suppressants for instance. | |||
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) so I'm lucky in that sense. If I can I will get it as an awful lot of people seems to be get cold-y already and though I know the jab contains a small live virus it's worth getting to avoid getting proper flu I'd say. | |||
"I've never had proper fly (touching wood ) so I'm lucky in that sense. If I can I will get it as an awful lot of people seems to be get cold-y already and though I know the jab contains a small live virus it's worth getting to avoid getting proper flu I'd say. "the jab does not contan live virus! look on nhs website,or numerous others. | |||
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"I've never had proper fly (touching wood ) so I'm lucky in that sense. If I can I will get it as an awful lot of people seems to be get cold-y already and though I know the jab contains a small live virus it's worth getting to avoid getting proper flu I'd say.
the jab does not contan live virus! look on nhs website,or numerous others."I'm ok with my source of info but I know what you're saying. | |||
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"I'm not in a group that needs it but if I were, I absolutely would. On vaccinations in general, Andrew Wakefield should be charged with manslaughter for children who have died from measles since his fraudulent research convinced gullible people of a link between things that weren't there. What he did was criminal and it's infuriating to still see it being peddled today. And actually mumps and rubella really shouldn't be dismissed so easily. There was a big mumps outbreak at my university because we were the age group too old to have had MMR but too young to have gained natural exposure to it. Some people ended up really quite badly ill, even in a young and generally healthy age group. " Our daughter caught measles before she was old enough to be vaccinated against it, it really isn't a nice illness. We know of a man who had mumps as an adult and it rendered him unable to have children. I'm pro vaccination. | |||
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"im supposed to have the flu jab yearly had it once full of cold that winter years ago never had it since then and never will however cold and flu dosnt last long in me " its called a flu jab! not a cold jab.... | |||
"I'm not in a group that needs it but if I were, I absolutely would. On vaccinations in general, Andrew Wakefield should be charged with manslaughter for children who have died from measles since his fraudulent research convinced gullible people of a link between things that weren't there. What he did was criminal and it's infuriating to still see it being peddled today. And actually mumps and rubella really shouldn't be dismissed so easily. There was a big mumps outbreak at my university because we were the age group too old to have had MMR but too young to have gained natural exposure to it. Some people ended up really quite badly ill, even in a young and generally healthy age group. " . Actually Wakefield's paper that was printed in the launcet stated there was no casual causations found or proven from autism and mmr, his paper was authored by twelve other Dr,s and it was about a possible link between a new bowel inflammation,mmr and various other things... The whole controversy was caused by a stupid press and a stupid public jumping on a personal statement he made at a press conference!... So you'd be better off charging the press, his research would have been found false afterwards no matter what! | |||
"im supposed to have the flu jab yearly had it once full of cold that winter years ago never had it since then and never will however cold and flu dosnt last long in me its called a flu jab! not a cold jab...." last time I had it was 1988 and I havent had the flu jab since even though I get an automatic invite to go for the flu jab however the exes have always called me a hot water bottle because im nice and cosy warm to cuddle up too | |||
unless I was one in my last Life but it was a virus whatever, the worst virus or bug I,ve ever had was Gastro entronitus it was BAD it made Me A zombie for two or three it gave me a PROPER detox from Top to bottom litterally...   | |||
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"Having the flu vaccine tomorrow. I'm a virgin in this regard. Mrs DDC" Oh ffs woman, don't tell them that! Everyone knows you have to be 65 to get the flu jab, so now they'll know we lied about your age on the profile
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"Having the flu vaccine tomorrow. I'm a virgin in this regard. Mrs DDC Oh ffs woman, don't tell them that! Everyone knows you have to be 65 to get the flu jab, so now they'll know we lied about your age on the profile
Mr ddc"lol well my birth certificate says I'm 44 and I've been having flu jab for 10 years at least | |||
"I always assumed this was an old people thing. Live and learn. " free for old people,people who are carers of old people, anyone with compromised immune systems...most other people will have to pay,council workers,teachers and similar often have it paid for by their employers.. | |||
"I always assumed this was an old people thing. Live and learn. free for old people,people who are carers of old people, anyone with compromised immune systems...most other people will have to pay,council workers,teachers and similar often have it paid for by their employers.." someone talking sense mine is asthma | |||
"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that. "I'll bite. The chance is not 1 in a million, it is more than 90+%. The flu starts the rounds in southeast Asia usually and spreads from there. From that we know the strain that is the most likely candidate and a vaccine is made. Most of the time they get it right but sometimes like last year they don't. If you get proper flu, i.e. not man flu you are going to wish you had the jab. For the usual fit and healthy person it isn't more than a rather unpleasant week but with underlying health problems it can well be fatal. Thousands of people die from it every year in the UK so if you fall in to the group with health problems it is a good idea. No the jab can't give you flu, what it does is give you an immune response which is why some feel a bit under the weather for a day. If these people actually had had proper flu at any point in their lives they'd know it isn't flu. As for carcinogens, well yes. Now there is a reason why all that stuff is in there. Either as preservatives, as byproducts or to have a specific function. Aluminium is for example used to provoke an immune response to make vaccine effective. The amounts are small though. Like someone else wrote eating a portion of fish will give you more of the heavy metals and eating an some will give you many times more formaldehyde than the jab. As for the whole autism thing from vaccines. The short answer is that they don't in any way, shape or form cause autism. The long answer is that autism starts manifesting around the time when kids have the MMR vaccine and parents want to blame someone or something. Look up the Cochrane re_iew (the very best evaluation of clinical studies you can get) and see what they say. In short again, there is no link. In fact even the recent study by the anti vaccine movement managed to prove exactly the same thing which was pretty priceless. My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be allowed to put your kids in a public school or nursery if you haven't had the relevant vaccinations. They aren't perfect but they have eradicated things that our parents were terrified of. Measles, meningitis, diphtheria and polio have been starting to make a comeback which is very concerning. All thanks to some scared people who refuse to listen to reason and peddle the lies of various people making vast sums of money. Andrew Wakefield wasn't struck off from the GMC for making uncomfortable discoveries but rather for research fraud for monetary reasons. He made well over a quarter of a million from it in consulting fees alone. Yes big pharma aren't the nicest if people but these anti vaxxers activists aren't any better, in fact worse since they try to hide the fact. We know GSK etc are in it for the money. Oh, and I've had my flu jab | |||
"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that.
I'll bite.
The chance is not 1 in a million, it is more than 90+%. The flu starts the rounds in southeast Asia usually and spreads from there. From that we know the strain that is the most likely candidate and a vaccine is made. Most of the time they get it right but sometimes like last year they don't. If you get proper flu, i.e. not man flu you are going to wish you had the jab. For the usual fit and healthy person it isn't more than a rather unpleasant week but with underlying health problems it can well be fatal. Thousands of people die from it every year in the UK so if you fall in to the group with health problems it is a good idea.
No the jab can't give you flu, what it does is give you an immune response which is why some feel a bit under the weather for a day. If these people actually had had proper flu at any point in their lives they'd know it isn't flu.
As for carcinogens, well yes. Now there is a reason why all that stuff is in there. Either as preservatives, as byproducts or to have a specific function. Aluminium is for example used to provoke an immune response to make vaccine effective. The amounts are small though. Like someone else wrote eating a portion of fish will give you more of the heavy metals and eating an some will give you many times more formaldehyde than the jab.
As for the whole autism thing from vaccines. The short answer is that they don't in any way, shape or form cause autism. The long answer is that autism starts manifesting around the time when kids have the MMR vaccine and parents want to blame someone or something. Look up the Cochrane re_iew (the very best evaluation of clinical studies you can get) and see what they say. In short again, there is no link. In fact even the recent study by the anti vaccine movement managed to prove exactly the same thing which was pretty priceless.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be allowed to put your kids in a public school or nursery if you haven't had the relevant vaccinations.
They aren't perfect but they have eradicated things that our parents were terrified of. Measles, meningitis, diphtheria and polio have been starting to make a comeback which is very concerning. All thanks to some scared people who refuse to listen to reason and peddle the lies of various people making vast sums of money.
Andrew Wakefield wasn't struck off from the GMC for making uncomfortable discoveries but rather for research fraud for monetary reasons. He made well over a quarter of a million from it in consulting fees alone. Yes big pharma aren't the nicest if people but these anti vaxxers activists aren't any better, in fact worse since they try to hide the fact. We know GSK etc are in it for the money.
Oh, and I've had my flu jab" | |||
"I always assumed this was an old people thing. Live and learn. free for old people,people who are carers of old people, anyone with compromised immune systems...most other people will have to pay,council workers,teachers and similar often have it paid for by their employers.." I get mine for free cus i have asthma but i would also get it for free cus of my job, i work in a place with lots of people and my GP surgery go for stopping it spreading thru the herd ... docs words not mine but now i feel that i am a cow lol | |||
"I always assumed this was an old people thing. Live and learn. " That's like saying AIDS is a gay thing...time to get educated. | |||
"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that.
I'll bite.
The chance is not 1 in a million, it is more than 90+%. The flu starts the rounds in southeast Asia usually and spreads from there. From that we know the strain that is the most likely candidate and a vaccine is made. Most of the time they get it right but sometimes like last year they don't. If you get proper flu, i.e. not man flu you are going to wish you had the jab. For the usual fit and healthy person it isn't more than a rather unpleasant week but with underlying health problems it can well be fatal. Thousands of people die from it every year in the UK so if you fall in to the group with health problems it is a good idea.
No the jab can't give you flu, what it does is give you an immune response which is why some feel a bit under the weather for a day. If these people actually had had proper flu at any point in their lives they'd know it isn't flu.
As for carcinogens, well yes. Now there is a reason why all that stuff is in there. Either as preservatives, as byproducts or to have a specific function. Aluminium is for example used to provoke an immune response to make vaccine effective. The amounts are small though. Like someone else wrote eating a portion of fish will give you more of the heavy metals and eating an some will give you many times more formaldehyde than the jab.
As for the whole autism thing from vaccines. The short answer is that they don't in any way, shape or form cause autism. The long answer is that autism starts manifesting around the time when kids have the MMR vaccine and parents want to blame someone or something. Look up the Cochrane re_iew (the very best evaluation of clinical studies you can get) and see what they say. In short again, there is no link. In fact even the recent study by the anti vaccine movement managed to prove exactly the same thing which was pretty priceless.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be allowed to put your kids in a public school or nursery if you haven't had the relevant vaccinations.
They aren't perfect but they have eradicated things that our parents were terrified of. Measles, meningitis, diphtheria and polio have been starting to make a comeback which is very concerning. All thanks to some scared people who refuse to listen to reason and peddle the lies of various people making vast sums of money.
Andrew Wakefield wasn't struck off from the GMC for making uncomfortable discoveries but rather for research fraud for monetary reasons. He made well over a quarter of a million from it in consulting fees alone. Yes big pharma aren't the nicest if people but these anti vaxxers activists aren't any better, in fact worse since they try to hide the fact. We know GSK etc are in it for the money.
Oh, and I've had my flu jab
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"Having the flu vaccine tomorrow. I'm a virgin in this regard. Mrs DDC Oh ffs woman, don't tell them that! Everyone knows you have to be 65 to get the flu jab, so now they'll know we lied about your age on the profile
Mr ddc"*indignant hands on hips* Now look what you've started. I'm doing it so I don't pass on the flu to the old people I come into contact with as part of my job (and of course Mr DDC! )
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" *indignant hands on zimmer-frame* Now look what you've started. I'm doing it so I don't pass on the flu to the old people I come into contact with as part of my job (and of course Mr DDC! )
Mrs DDC"Corrected it for you 
I was young, and had all my own hair, with nary hint of grey, before I met you 
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" *indignant hands on zimmer-frame* Now look what you've started. I'm doing it so I don't pass on the flu to the old people I come into contact with as part of my job (and of course Mr DDC! )
Mrs DDC
Corrected it for you
I was young, and had all my own hair, with nary hint of grey, before I met you
"WHAT!!!!!!! I used to be able to see properly too. We did meet a LONG time ago. Anyways, I prefer the way you look now (with my glasses on in case you were wondering, lol!) Mrs DDC | |||
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"I have had it, i have it every year now there's a version not grown on egg. I have asthma plus i work in a big place with hundreds of people working there so it's advised that i have it. It's not a "live" vacine so it can't make you ill but you can feel slightly under the weather a few days after having it.. It's not the virus perse that can have side affects though! The indigents of a vaccine can vary a great deal, from mercury to formaldehyde and do have known risks attached I don't get vaccinated for anything unless I feel it's warranted weighing up the pros and cons
people that create these vaccines have to guess at the strain that will follow in the next year... 1 in a multi million chance of getting it right...
as you said these vaccines contain all sorts of worse things than the flu... why pump yourself full of carcinogens and formaldehyde as well as a flu strain in order to be given a 1 in a million shot to be slightly more immune to the right flu virus. makes 0 sense to me. give me the flu i'll take it like a man... hmmm may have to rethink that.
I'll bite.
The chance is not 1 in a million, it is more than 90+%. The flu starts the rounds in southeast Asia usually and spreads from there. From that we know the strain that is the most likely candidate and a vaccine is made. Most of the time they get it right but sometimes like last year they don't. If you get proper flu, i.e. not man flu you are going to wish you had the jab. For the usual fit and healthy person it isn't more than a rather unpleasant week but with underlying health problems it can well be fatal. Thousands of people die from it every year in the UK so if you fall in to the group with health problems it is a good idea.
No the jab can't give you flu, what it does is give you an immune response which is why some feel a bit under the weather for a day. If these people actually had had proper flu at any point in their lives they'd know it isn't flu.
As for carcinogens, well yes. Now there is a reason why all that stuff is in there. Either as preservatives, as byproducts or to have a specific function. Aluminium is for example used to provoke an immune response to make vaccine effective. The amounts are small though. Like someone else wrote eating a portion of fish will give you more of the heavy metals and eating an some will give you many times more formaldehyde than the jab.
As for the whole autism thing from vaccines. The short answer is that they don't in any way, shape or form cause autism. The long answer is that autism starts manifesting around the time when kids have the MMR vaccine and parents want to blame someone or something. Look up the Cochrane re_iew (the very best evaluation of clinical studies you can get) and see what they say. In short again, there is no link. In fact even the recent study by the anti vaccine movement managed to prove exactly the same thing which was pretty priceless.
My personal opinion is that you shouldn't be allowed to put your kids in a public school or nursery if you haven't had the relevant vaccinations.
They aren't perfect but they have eradicated things that our parents were terrified of. Measles, meningitis, diphtheria and polio have been starting to make a comeback which is very concerning. All thanks to some scared people who refuse to listen to reason and peddle the lies of various people making vast sums of money.
Andrew Wakefield wasn't struck off from the GMC for making uncomfortable discoveries but rather for research fraud for monetary reasons. He made well over a quarter of a million from it in consulting fees alone. Yes big pharma aren't the nicest if people but these anti vaxxers activists aren't any better, in fact worse since they try to hide the fact. We know GSK etc are in it for the money.
Oh, and I've had my flu jab". I actually fully agree with you however.. Wakefield was not struck off for fraud, he was struck off for unnecessary procedures on children against their best interest!. Science is great and achieves marvellous wonders, however the pharmaceutical industry is not exactly the white knight you proclaim, The vaccine for Meningitis b was developed in the 80s in Cuba but they've dragged there feet on it for profit reasons mostly. Jonas Salk who invented the polio vaccine came under immense pressure to sell the vaccine to pharmaceutical industry, it was the only the fact that he was an extremely nice guy dedicated to his job, that he gave it away for free and because it was free it almost eradicated polio because it was widely available, on a side note the rival guy working at Merkel to also cure polio but with a live virus well it's now accepted that he probably caused the outbreak of the hiv virus from west African green apes!. Personally I don't blame the guy, he was genuinely acting in good faith to cure an already awful disease of polio but that's how vaccines work, in effect your curing by numbers eg 0.8% die from measles but only 0.01% will suffer from serious side affects, so that's considered a net benefit on the data! I don't belive in forcing people to do anything medically, I'd rather just have honest serious debate and let people make up their own mind, but just as there's bollocks from anti vaccine groups, there's quite a bit from pharmaceutical giants also with the wider angle of drugs in general not just vaccines! | |||
