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"I have no problem meeting married people if they are up front. I would not meet someone who was married and went on and on about it constantly and those that get upset and try and justify themselves" As above x | |||
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"I always inform that I'm married early on, and 99 out of 100 women will stop chatting " I always inform that I'm married early on, and 99 out of 100 men don't stop chatting... | |||
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"I have no problem meeting married people if they are up front. I would not meet someone who was married and went on and on about it constantly and those that get upset and try and justify themselves" Same. | |||
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"hers the thing many meet and dont relise that whom they are meeting is married...alot more married folk playing away on here than most relise but the men get the backlash the women dont.... same with those who state they will not play with bi guys well the chance's are you have ...people will always lie to get what they want and its not alway the guys,....mrs rip" | |||
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"I always inform that I'm married early on, and 99 out of 100 women will stop chatting " This is exactly my point. If the female was the cheat then all is good still, but ius blokes get the sharp end of the knife. | |||
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"hers the thing many meet and dont relise that whom they are meeting is married...alot more married folk playing away on here than most relise but the men get the backlash the women dont.... same with those who state they will not play with bi guys well the chance's are you have ...people will always lie to get what they want and its not alway the guys,....mrs rip" Oh so true but it is what is no need to moan about it life's far to short in my opinion . P's wasn't inferring you where moaning just saying . | |||
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"hers the thing many meet and dont relise that whom they are meeting is married...alot more married folk playing away on here than most relise but the men get the backlash the women dont.... same with those who state they will not play with bi guys well the chance's are you have ...people will always lie to get what they want and its not alway the guys,....mrs rip" probably down to the ratios, certainly more 'single' men who may be married than 'single' women, also its very rare you get a married woman blaming their unaware partner for why they are here but some men do and that is reprehensible with most people.. just get on with it.. | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " its on my profile that im in a relationship so i guess im upfront about it. i also have no qualms about meeting a married lady. Turns me on even more if its behind her husbands back. | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses " as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social at that. | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social at that." would you have done the same ting had you had sex with him? | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social atthat." Trusting is a major player in this and having permission from your partner is one thing, how you prove if is another... | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social atthat. Trusting is a major player in this and having permission from your partner is one thing, how you prove if is another..." signed and notarised affidavit, lol | |||
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"I have no problem meeting married people if they are up front. I would not meet someone who was married and went on and on about it constantly and those that get upset and try and justify themselves" | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social atthat. Trusting is a major player in this and having permission from your partner is one thing, how you prove if is another... signed and notarised affidavit, lol" And this would be kept where prey tell ... | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social atthat. Trusting is a major player in this and having permission from your partner is one thing, how you prove if is another... signed and notarised affidavit, lol And this would be kept where prey tell ... " tattooed across ones bottom.. | |||
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"I have met and would meet married men, as long as they were honest about it" Honest in what way? Tell you they are cheating? | |||
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"I have met and would meet married men, as long as they were honest about it" im honest about it, and if only i'd seen this 3 months ago as was in Hastings. lol | |||
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"We have no interest in meeting cheaters, but would happily meet men or women with permission from their spouses as above. In addition i had a phone call this morning from a woman wanting to know who I was and how come my number was on her partners phone. I told her the truth I won't lie to hide another person's deception when I have only met once and for a social atthat. Trusting is a major player in this and having permission from your partner is one thing, how you prove if is another... signed and notarised affidavit, lol And this would be kept where prey tell ... tattooed across ones bottom.. " In the cloud, in a private account, lol | |||
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"I prefer single guys but I'm sure I have played with married men and not known mainly in clubs, I guess it's on a case by case situation with me whether I would meet a married man.." there's just no way you would know. I would never actively choose to meet someone in a relationship | |||
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"I have and do. But I won't meet anyone who wants to meet me BECAUSE I'm married, e.g. who fetishises the fucking someone else's wife thing." I get so many of those messages | |||
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"Im married and do this. For two reasons miss group fun And the thrill of a new partner and feel it's safer to do this with people that separate sex for a relationship could get off with people in the everyday world but think it would get complicated too easily as maybe they looking for more than a bit of fun " There are plenty on here looking for more though even some that say they aren't so it's still a risk | |||
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"I have met both, both socially and sexually My moral compass does sway on this matter " We sleep at night..do they ? connie x | |||
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"I always inform that I'm married early on, and 99 out of 100 women will stop chatting " I firmly believe it depends on the man in question. If he's hot, sexy, popular then that prerequisite often fade into the background.... Same applies to the women on here. Happens all the time. | |||
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"I have no issue with it.....before FAB I did. I like the fellows who are honest about it...makes it easier to chat and be open. The fellows could lie...one social he complained how hard it was for single men on here, yes complained not just conversation. Then after we engaged he jumped up and said he had to be home by 8pm or all hell would break loose...he was married...I felt conned. Had he been up front it gives me the choice...I would like that level of respect. If they are married they are careful about protection and I am assured of NSA and we can chat about home life without restriction. There is irony in the honesty thing I understand however I can deal with it, I'm an adult. Would you rather he lie in order to make you feel better? I wouldn't xxx" Yea that stinks I have had play meets and had lots of fun a cuddles and holding after sex it's nice to do that too it does not mean any more or any less then the sex prefer to have the time to play all night sometimes I can sometimes I can't but when I do its always better x | |||
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"I do and couldn't care less. Their choice. Only problem is it's difficult for them to be spontaneous. " Same. I don't feel that someone else's marriage is any of my business. | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " Im married, its in my profile, also that I prefer to meet single men, but I do seem to attract married men, I dont know why as it doesnt seem too easy to meet them. When I am free, they are not. I have met married men from here. | |||
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"I'll meet married women who's husbands allow them to play and I've heard it from him directly. It she is looking to cheat then it get's a bit more complicated and I'd need to know why she is doing it." Why do you need to know, either you meet cheaters or you don't | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " I've met married women. I'm no one's moral guardian on here and everyone has their reasons. | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. " And us singles are idiots who haven't got a clue? | |||
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"I have no problem meeting married people if they are up front. I would not meet someone who was married and went on and on about it constantly and those that get upset and try and justify themselves" This. | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. " As do single ladies! | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. And us singles are idiots who haven't got a clue? " That's not what he said now is it, he was answering the question as why he liked meeting married women. | |||
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"I'm married so am I not safer to get to know? " I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this... married men are just as capable of falling for someone outwith their marriage... and not safer at all if an upset/aggrieved spouse comes to find the lady you have been playing with. | |||
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"Sometimes meet with married women is more simple and effective for me. Married people know what they want, they not looking for new husband or new wife. Simply and easy. I like married women because they know what they want. " Quite a laughable statement for two reasons. First, A married woman is capable of falling for you and making things complicated and second, as I single woman I can tell you I know exactly what I want | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. And us singles are idiots who haven't got a clue? That's not what he said now is it, he was answering the question as why he liked meeting married women. " I'm not sure why people are taking offense at this? It makes perfect sense to me as a rationale. It can be easier to meet someone in the same situation as yourself, with the same stakes as yourself because you're going into it with the same expectations. Also if they're meeting each other it stops cheaters contaminating the rest of the Fab pool... | |||
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"I always inform that I'm married early on, and 99 out of 100 women will stop chatting " same here they look at my profile and that's it , but every ones can chose and I don't hold against them . | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. And us singles are idiots who haven't got a clue? That's not what he said now is it, he was answering the question as why he liked meeting married women. I'm not sure why people are taking offense at this? It makes perfect sense to me as a rationale. It can be easier to meet someone in the same situation as yourself, with the same stakes as yourself because you're going into it with the same expectations. Also if they're meeting each other it stops cheaters contaminating the rest of the Fab pool... " Hahahahaha, classic | |||
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" It can be easier to meet someone in the same situation as yourself, with the same stakes as yourself because you're going into it with the same expectations. Also if they're meeting each other it stops cheaters contaminating the rest of the Fab pool... " This is very true. | |||
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"I like married women because they know what they want. And us singles are idiots who haven't got a clue? That's not what he said now is it, he was answering the question as why he liked meeting married women. I'm not sure why people are taking offense at this? It makes perfect sense to me as a rationale. It can be easier to meet someone in the same situation as yourself, with the same stakes as yourself because you're going into it with the same expectations. Also if they're meeting each other it stops cheaters contaminating the rest of the Fab pool... " That's the second time in as many days I've been referred to as a disease | |||
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"I am married and I don't hide it from people in the messages I send in fab. It's not right and if we apply morals then there are lots of things that I are right. But by being on fab and swinging I am not looking for a a full blown affair that will lead to families being split up and heart ache. I'm looking for caring times with people who have the same outlook on life. Not owning them to caring enough to stay in touch listen to them talk about the world give an opinion if asked for and enjoy the delights. The thing I think is I'm not looking to spoil the ladies life or if I meet a couple to break up the couple and run off with the lady because I'm married so am I not safer to get to know?" Not if the wife finds out no you're not safer | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. " | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together " That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad. | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad." | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad." We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree? | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. " Well said Have seen the middle part played out in the forums on more than one occasion...... | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " I've met some married ladies. Hopefully, I will continue to do so in the future. They are consenting adults who are there for their own reasons - I respect them without question. | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " think the hardened swingers at the F&G emporiums don't really care as they don't have any connection or want any to the person they fuck the people looking for a little more from a partner would mostly care | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree?" A meal ticket? Hmm that's the second time this week I've seen wives/married women described in this manner - because obviously none of us could possibly earn our own money and are just leeching off our husbands. So I'll put my hands up as someone who disagrees | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. " They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree?" Yes me, I don't know the reasons they are meeting or want to meet other people or don't leave the person they are with so I don't judge them | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree?" I definitely disagree with the meal ticket statement I earn more, i bought our house. I do this because I like sex and hubs isn't a fan simples... | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated." I've met a good few married bods over the years, and not one has ever encountered the kind of dramatic fall out that gets trotted out here. I don't mean that to sound cocky and I can completely understand people not wanting to involve themself with meeting a married man or woman but I do think the scorned wife or husband on the doorstep thing is grossly overstated in terms of likelihood of occurring. Equally as possible for difficulties, jealousies or complications to creep in between an openly swinging couple. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated." Difference of opion, which is fair enough, but you are mixing an absolute statement with a broad generalisation (it's "only uncomplicated" suggests that there are zero exceptions from your experience and opinion - which is an exceptionally confident statement to make; and "potential to get complicated" - which everything does, and most things already are) | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree?" Totally disagree. Women do earn their own money these days, it's not the 50's & therefore don't have to rely on a 'meal ticket' anymore. I would say the majority of people on here are just looking for a fuck, single / married or as part of a couple. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. Difference of opion, which is fair enough, but you are mixing an absolute statement with a broad generalisation (it's "only uncomplicated" suggests that there are zero exceptions from your experience and opinion - which is an exceptionally confident statement to make; and "potential to get complicated" - which everything does, and most things already are) " You can pad it out with words if you like. If i meet a guy that is attached there is the potential for his other half finding out and i end up caught up inn something I'd rather not. You cannot argue that it won't happen. It has. I've never had that happen with any of the single guys I've met. I'm not sure where your argument is. Yes everything has the potential to get complicated but some more likely than others. | |||
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"I have met a couple of married/attatched men in the past. But now no I wouldn't as I had a lot of hassle from one of the guys. I niw will only meet single guys. But I suppose each to their own " I'm sorry but how the hell can you ever be sure ,just saying | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated." From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. " If allowed to | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. " it does especially if the green eyed monster comes out to play | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. " yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. " You've obviously never had messages and phone calls from someone else's wife then | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. You've obviously never had messages and phone calls from someone else's wife then" No, I haven't. That's my point. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. " NSA means what it says sex by your rules ,women rule here accept it and you will have a better experience | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " I've met married ladies before and had a lot of fun with them. Prefer it if they are open and honest about their relationship status to begin with though. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. You've obviously never had messages and phone calls from someone else's wife then No, I haven't. That's my point. " And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. You've obviously never had messages and phone calls from someone else's wife then No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that" But as I said, I make my decisions based on what experience has told me. Which is that I've had more complications from single men (borderline stalky behaviour, wanting to meet more frequently than I want to, telling me he'd fallen in love with me, not understanding the stakes for me) than I've ever had complications from married men. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. yep - applies equally to the cheating, the married, the single and everything else in between which is why we should all determine what we're personally most comfortable with and go with that. I've had the single men who have got too involved and wanted more than I'm offering. I haven't had any drama from the married blokes. So I'll use my experience to date to make my decisions. You've obviously never had messages and phone calls from someone else's wife then No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that But as I said, I make my decisions based on what experience has told me. Which is that I've had more complications from single men (borderline stalky behaviour, wanting to meet more frequently than I want to, telling me he'd fallen in love with me, not understanding the stakes for me) than I've ever had complications from married men. " Ah.....i refuse to continue contact at the first whiff of that so it never gets to that stage with me.....i don't want that complication either. | |||
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"With swinging couples you have sex, then you go back to real life. With married cheaters meeting other married cheaters you have sex then you go back to real life. These work because the sex is for sex, not to fill an emotional void. When you have non-married singles you frequently see jealousy, pissing contests, "ownership" statements in verifications, attachment issues and more. Yes there's exceptions to this, but the above is based on what I see. I'll meet the uncomplicated married ladies. They are only uncomplicated if their spouses know what they are up to......otherwise it has the potential to get very complicated. From what I hear & see, everything on here has the potential to get very complicated if allowed to do so. If allowed to" As in allowing their emotions to get the better of them & unleashing a shit load of drama on all in sundry. One of the reasons why so many go UNLOS & then become the comeback queens & kings. | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that" Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. " No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will." I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... " Why would you let them do that? | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree? A meal ticket? Hmm that's the second time this week I've seen wives/married women described in this manner - because obviously none of us could possibly earn our own money and are just leeching off our husbands. So I'll put my hands up as someone who disagrees " You treat your husband as a prize clem.........you must be proud | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? I've met married ladies before and had a lot of fun with them. Prefer it if they are open and honest about their relationship status to begin with though. " so would you be sick to the pit of your stomach if after you had your wicked way with her you found out she was married ? | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will." No, I understand that 100%. Especially if you've had a shitty situation in the past. You won't accept anything other than what you feel to be right and nobody will change that. But others have other experience, which through the same thought and self-defence process as yourself leads them to a different conclusion. | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... Why would you let them do that? " Why would you think I let them? They just assume they can do it ... they can't. Many of the guys I used to meet with wanted something regular, I did not as it was Nsa. They wanted what they wanted when they wanted it ... was not my thing at all. I don't let anyone do anything, but I understand and have experienced where it comes from and what its like .... it does not happen as I kept my swinging life and my real life separate ....a little different now, except when I meet women on my single profile, but I don't think women have the same issues with other women | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. No, I understand that 100%. Especially if you've had a shitty situation in the past. You won't accept anything other than what you feel to be right and nobody will change that. But others have other experience, which through the same thought and self-defence process as yourself leads them to a different conclusion. " I'm not even saying i won't meet married.....just that surely it has the potential to be more complicated. My original comment was relating to you calling married women uncomplicated. That was the only point i had issue with | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... Why would you let them do that? Why would you think I let them? They just assume they can do it ... they can't. Many of the guys I used to meet with wanted something regular, I did not as it was Nsa. They wanted what they wanted when they wanted it ... was not my thing at all. I don't let anyone do anything, but I understand and have experienced where it comes from and what its like .... it does not happen as I kept my swinging life and my real life separate ....a little different now, except when I meet women on my single profile, but I don't think women have the same issues with other women" Because you said they do it? As soon as they expect another meet with me I'll sever contact so I've never let them get that far. | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... Why would you let them do that? Why would you think I let them? They just assume they can do it ... they can't. Many of the guys I used to meet with wanted something regular, I did not as it was Nsa. They wanted what they wanted when they wanted it ... was not my thing at all. I don't let anyone do anything, but I understand and have experienced where it comes from and what its like .... it does not happen as I kept my swinging life and my real life separate ....a little different now, except when I meet women on my single profile, but I don't think women have the same issues with other women Because you said they do it? As soon as they expect another meet with me I'll sever contact so I've never let them get that far." They do it. I cant control another persons behaviour nor would I try to. I can, however, cut them off, like you do. Its always the single ones who try to muscle in with me .... for me, its always on my terms. Now as part of a couple, when I meet as part of a couple, its always on our terms ... | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. I have experienced much more drama with singles wanting to muscle into my real life ... demanding times and places and texting and messaging all the time. Loads more potential for thinking they can have ownership issues .... Why would you let them do that? Why would you think I let them? They just assume they can do it ... they can't. Many of the guys I used to meet with wanted something regular, I did not as it was Nsa. They wanted what they wanted when they wanted it ... was not my thing at all. I don't let anyone do anything, but I understand and have experienced where it comes from and what its like .... it does not happen as I kept my swinging life and my real life separate ....a little different now, except when I meet women on my single profile, but I don't think women have the same issues with other women Because you said they do it? As soon as they expect another meet with me I'll sever contact so I've never let them get that far. They do it. I cant control another persons behaviour nor would I try to. I can, however, cut them off, like you do. Its always the single ones who try to muscle in with me .... for me, its always on my terms. Now as part of a couple, when I meet as part of a couple, its always on our terms ..." So no actual complication then is my point. Because you don't let it. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too" No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds." When I was married, I was cheated on. He had a full blown affair, that got complicated ... a swinging nsa thing does not have to. I see them as very different and I have been on both sides of the equation ... | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. When I was married, I was cheated on. He had a full blown affair, that got complicated ... a swinging nsa thing does not have to. I see them as very different and I have been on both sides of the equation ..." As have I. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too" Yes but how many of those single were "single" | |||
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" No, I haven't. That's my point. And it's my point that it can cause more complications. I'm not sure how anyone can't see that Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be using "it can" and "it could" and "potentially" to mean "it will", because it has happened to you. And because it has happened to you, you can't see why others don't also see potential issues as likely or inevitable issues. On that basis everyone on here could post a story which could happen to someone else. Yes, some are more likely than others, so I'm not being facetious here. So, in the same way that you are doing, my post above was written using my personal experience, rather than someone else's opinion. And I'm not trying to change the opinion of anyone else; just explain my own. No not at all. Just trying to enhance my enjoyment and have a drama free life as much as i can. Call it a risk assessment if you will. No, I understand that 100%. Especially if you've had a shitty situation in the past. You won't accept anything other than what you feel to be right and nobody will change that. But others have other experience, which through the same thought and self-defence process as yourself leads them to a different conclusion. I'm not even saying i won't meet married.....just that surely it has the potential to be more complicated. My original comment was relating to you calling married women uncomplicated. That was the only point i had issue with " what are you saying then? Kiss from me | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds." I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds." I think it's just different types of complications, Scarlet. I could handle a wife/husband asking about their partner meeting us "you need to speak to them" {hangs up phone}. From what I've seen on the forums singles offer either more heart-wrenching complications, or bunny-boiler ones ("so I sent her a link to his profile on here") People just need to keep it in proportion and realise that in either case, the complications are probably a very small ratio (he said with fingers firmly crossed) That said, we'll meet either, we're tarts like that Mr ddc | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in " They come with lesser complications too that can provide hassle eg can only meets certain times, you can't enjoy time with them because they are clock watching, cancelling at the last min because the partners plans have changed, you can't leave marks on them or strong scents so no perfume rules etc etc | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think it's just different types of complications, Scarlet. I could handle a wife/husband asking about their partner meeting us "you need to speak to them" {hangs up phone}. From what I've seen on the forums singles offer either more heart-wrenching complications, or bunny-boiler ones ("so I sent her a link to his profile on here") People just need to keep it in proportion and realise that in either case, the complications are probably a very small ratio (he said with fingers firmly crossed) That said, we'll meet either, we're tarts like that Mr ddc" Yes i get that there are different types of complications.....i feel more in control of the sort of complications you get with singles....you can't foresee them in advance but from chatting you can guage their potential to want more..and Because I'm careful about who i meet i rarely have any that i have to block contact with.....but with the married ones They are unpredictable Because it it is the 3rd party that poses the threat... so in most cases i choose not to put myself in that situation.. | |||
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"... Yes i get that there are different types of complications.....i feel more in control of the sort of complications you get with singles....you can't foresee them in advance but from chatting you can guage their potential to want more..and Because I'm careful about who i meet i rarely have any that i have to block contact with.....but with the married ones They are unpredictable Because it it is the 3rd party that poses the threat... so in most cases i choose not to put myself in that situation.. " Which, in reality, is what it's all about: doing whatever it takes to make you feel happy, with the minimum risk of drama. Which is why there's no right or wrong. We're still newish, so are probably a bit naïve - no doubt this time next year, after a particularly scary experience, we'll be saying "omg, we'd never meet singles/married people". | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in They come with lesser complications too that can provide hassle eg can only meets certain times, you can't enjoy time with them because they are clock watching, cancelling at the last min because the partners plans have changed, you can't leave marks on them or strong scents so no perfume rules etc etc " Have to totally disagree with you on this one lovely..my married man meets me very reg never watches any clocks, stays over .Ive scratched him a good few times and bit his ass I blame hhim for pushing me over the edge.I always wear perfume he never showers to go home.We have spontaneous meets and never as cancelled on me .So not every married man falls into that box ...some are very flexible.Guess you have to understand the reasoning and know the full story ..but hes definitely not what you have described .I know some are but some aren't. | |||
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"hers the thing many meet and dont relise that whom they are meeting is married...alot more married folk playing away on here than most relise but the men get the backlash the women dont.... same with those who state they will not play with bi guys well the chance's are you have ...people will always lie to get what they want and its not alway the guys,....mrs rip" | |||
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"This is kinda refreshing, a sensible reasoned debate about the whole married thing without descending (yet!) in the usual vitriol and abuse at the 'cheaters' you normally get in these type of threads. I'm married and I say so early in my profile, I prefer to be upfront (and yes, I deliberately don't use the word honest!) with people so they can make their own informed choice if they want to talk to me or meet me. Everybody's moral compasses will be in a different place on this, and will be shaped by their own experiences. One thing I do know - everyone's backstory and circumstances are different and it's very easy to judge people without knowing the journey or factors that have brought the 'cheaters' to this site. It's not always so black and white as some people think. And there's one thing that really does show one dimensional thinking in my mind, and that's when people say 'if they're not getting enough sex with their husbands / wives they should just leave them' .. love is about more than just sex, I know it is genuinely hard for some people to grasp (and I do honestly get that!) but believe me it is possible to have a loving and otherwise excellent marriage and still be on here. Those that 'get it' will get it! Those that don't, won't. I expect all sorts of abuse for saying that (tin hat and flak jacket in) but I know from speaking to other marrieds on here that they feel the same way too. Anyway, back to it, as you were ... " Great post | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? " I refuse to meet married men, or even men in relationships. I am quite good at catching people out during a social! | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? I refuse to meet married men, or even men in relationships. I am quite good at catching people out during a social! " And there in lays the on major problem with this world you shouldn't have to catch anyone out what's written in your profile should be respected and married people playing away from home should be up front about it . My mind boggles over the why's in this world it really is complete madness and all because sex is involved its like its a game a game some people must win at any cost . | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? I refuse to meet married men, or even men in relationships. I am quite good at catching people out during a social! And there in lays the on major problem with this world you shouldn't have to catch anyone out what's written in your profile should be respected and married people playing away from home should be up front about it . My mind boggles over the why's in this world it really is complete madness and all because sex is involved its like its a game a game some people must win at any cost ." Of course I prefer people to be honest about it, easy for me to then block them. I generally won't meet them if i've any doubts but it has happened on occasion that i've managed to find out the truth at the social. Another reason I insist on a social first. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in They come with lesser complications too that can provide hassle eg can only meets certain times, you can't enjoy time with them because they are clock watching, cancelling at the last min because the partners plans have changed, you can't leave marks on them or strong scents so no perfume rules etc etc " ive had a guy go all guilt ridden and even cried. | |||
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"ive met married men in the past. i found too much drama with it all. they felt guilty which made me feel bad. never again unless they are consenting swingers playing together That's what gets me too, with either gender. Guilt makes them feel bad, and makes me feel bad. Unless they're total gits in which case it's just me that's left feeling bad.We just could not do it to each other,swinging for a couple is based on honesty...............most are just wankers on here looking for a fuck or cowardly women scared to leave a meal ticket...anyone disagree? A meal ticket? Hmm that's the second time this week I've seen wives/married women described in this manner - because obviously none of us could possibly earn our own money and are just leeching off our husbands. So I'll put my hands up as someone who disagrees You treat your husband as a prize clem.........you must be proud" Why, because he obviously must be the one who earns the money and supports the little wife, and I repay that by cheating? It's not actually 1953. Not all women are looking for a "meal ticket" in a partner. Some might even be the "meal ticket" themselves (more fool them). If you didn't hold out for a relationship with someone who could/would pay their own way it doesn't mean everyone else is in the same situation. So yeah, I still disagree with your misogynistic bollocks. You can think what you like about poeole cheating, I really don't give a fuck, but perhaps you should drag your _iews back into the 21st century as to potential reasons why. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds." You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. | |||
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"Men or women. How many of you females/couples would meet a married man? And how many blokes would meet a married lady? I refuse to meet married men, or even men in relationships. I am quite good at catching people out during a social! And there in lays the on major problem with this world you shouldn't have to catch anyone out what's written in your profile should be respected and married people playing away from home should be up front about it . My mind boggles over the why's in this world it really is complete madness and all because sex is involved its like its a game a game some people must win at any cost . Of course I prefer people to be honest about it, easy for me to then block them. I generally won't meet them if i've any doubts but it has happened on occasion that i've managed to find out the truth at the social. Another reason I insist on a social first." That the point you shouldn't need to block them they should read no married or attached in your profile respect your choice on the matter and move on with out sending a message . The mind boggles as to why someone would message you who's married or attached after reading such a thing . | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. " And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!!" Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in They come with lesser complications too that can provide hassle eg can only meets certain times, you can't enjoy time with them because they are clock watching, cancelling at the last min because the partners plans have changed, you can't leave marks on them or strong scents so no perfume rules etc etc Have to totally disagree with you on this one lovely..my married man meets me very reg never watches any clocks, stays over .Ive scratched him a good few times and bit his ass I blame hhim for pushing me over the edge.I always wear perfume he never showers to go home.We have spontaneous meets and never as cancelled on me .So not every married man falls into that box ...some are very flexible.Guess you have to understand the reasoning and know the full story ..but hes definitely not what you have described .I know some are but some aren't." That's fair enough your entitled to disagree. As always with opinion it's based on personal experience, your experience has varied to mine and there are of course usually exceptions to the rule. For how he can meet I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't meeting on the side either, and he isn't aware, or she's already aware and wanting to catch home out so sends him on his merry way to do so, it's how I caught my ex hubby, but again that's therefore obviously based on my experience. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. I think the point she's trying to make in its simplest form is there's no such thing as NSA fun with attached people because they are already attached to a pretty big string, which you can (not always) end up entangled in They come with lesser complications too that can provide hassle eg can only meets certain times, you can't enjoy time with them because they are clock watching, cancelling at the last min because the partners plans have changed, you can't leave marks on them or strong scents so no perfume rules etc etc Have to totally disagree with you on this one lovely..my married man meets me very reg never watches any clocks, stays over .Ive scratched him a good few times and bit his ass I blame hhim for pushing me over the edge.I always wear perfume he never showers to go home.We have spontaneous meets and never as cancelled on me .So not every married man falls into that box ...some are very flexible.Guess you have to understand the reasoning and know the full story ..but hes definitely not what you have described .I know some are but some aren't. That's fair enough your entitled to disagree. As always with opinion it's based on personal experience, your experience has varied to mine and there are of course usually exceptions to the rule. For how he can meet I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't meeting on the side either, and he isn't aware, or she's already aware and wanting to catch home out so sends him on his merry way to do so, it's how I caught my ex hubby, but again that's therefore obviously based on my experience." Lets just say he does his thing she does hers and they are both happy... | |||
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" Lets just say he does his thing she does hers and they are both happy..." There are an awful lot of people in this state on here...and it's generally easier to just describe themselves as cheating so you don't get in to the stuff about people wanting to know you have "permission" from your partner and all of that. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. " How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication? | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication?" Just because something CAN be a complication doesn't mean it WILL be a complication. Just like just because a couple are openly swinging doesn't mean there won't be jealousy and that bollocks further down the line. Or just because someone is single and CAN be uncomplicated doesn't mean they WILL be uncomplicated. | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication? Just because something CAN be a complication doesn't mean it WILL be a complication. Just like just because a couple are openly swinging doesn't mean there won't be jealousy and that bollocks further down the line. Or just because someone is single and CAN be uncomplicated doesn't mean they WILL be uncomplicated. " Yeah i really do get the point that anything can be complicated. But I'm still interested to know how being married isn't an added complication. | |||
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"Maybe there should be an additional button when searching. A "will meet married" one like there is for meeting smokers " You think that would stop married people mailing you? | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication? Just because something CAN be a complication doesn't mean it WILL be a complication. Just like just because a couple are openly swinging doesn't mean there won't be jealousy and that bollocks further down the line. Or just because someone is single and CAN be uncomplicated doesn't mean they WILL be uncomplicated. Yeah i really do get the point that anything can be complicated. But I'm still interested to know how being married isn't an added complication." For me, it removes other things that are more of a complication. My _iew of what is a complication is obviously going to be different to yours because we're in different situations. So if someone is married they're more likely to want the same kind of interaction as I do - which automatically makes it less complicated than a single person who potentially doesn't get it. | |||
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"Maybe there should be an additional button when searching. A "will meet married" one like there is for meeting smokers You think that would stop married people mailing you? " No probably not,but I don't mind married people mailing me xx | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication? Just because something CAN be a complication doesn't mean it WILL be a complication. Just like just because a couple are openly swinging doesn't mean there won't be jealousy and that bollocks further down the line. Or just because someone is single and CAN be uncomplicated doesn't mean they WILL be uncomplicated. Yeah i really do get the point that anything can be complicated. But I'm still interested to know how being married isn't an added complication. For me, it removes other things that are more of a complication. My _iew of what is a complication is obviously going to be different to yours because we're in different situations. So if someone is married they're more likely to want the same kind of interaction as I do - which automatically makes it less complicated than a single person who potentially doesn't get it." Thank you...at last....so it isn't that they are uncomplicated just they come with a different set of complications that you are more able to deal with? | |||
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"I think that is the same point someone else made further up the thread re: meeting married, it does not have to be complicated ... and some of the people also spoke from their experience of it not being nor having been. Just saying I have experienced much more potential of drama from singles ... as others stated too No It's not the same point but I'm not explaining it again. I don't see how married people, where their partners aren't involved, can be seen as uncomplicated. But if you all can then great I'm not trying to change your minds. You don't need to, just take the word married in all your posts and replace it with single, and you have your answer. I was making the point that single isn't automatically "uncomplicated" either. And i wasn't saying that single is uncomplicated....but thing two did say that married was uncomplicated. That was what i had issue with....I'm not arguing with you!! Fair enough, wasn't responding to your _iew on Thing Two's choice of words, was responding to your choice of words "I don't see how married people can be seen as uncomplicated". Anyway, it's probably better if married people tend to prefer meeting other married people and singles prefer meeting singles. Everyone's happy. How can having an unknowing partner not be a complication? Just because something CAN be a complication doesn't mean it WILL be a complication. Just like just because a couple are openly swinging doesn't mean there won't be jealousy and that bollocks further down the line. Or just because someone is single and CAN be uncomplicated doesn't mean they WILL be uncomplicated. Yeah i really do get the point that anything can be complicated. But I'm still interested to know how being married isn't an added complication. For me, it removes other things that are more of a complication. My _iew of what is a complication is obviously going to be different to yours because we're in different situations. So if someone is married they're more likely to want the same kind of interaction as I do - which automatically makes it less complicated than a single person who potentially doesn't get it." Not if their other half finds out. That is automatically more complicated than meeting a single as a third party is involved. Possibly more if they have kids. | |||
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