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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hi folks, I am becoming bitterly disappointed in my experiences here on this site in recent months. Nearly every time I've gotten to chat to a woman on kik/whatsapp, they've been to be using fake pics on here in the first place. That's incredibly frustrating and a huge waste of my time.
Secondly the couples who have decided to send me a message demand I send my phone number to them after like 3-4 messages without me knowing who they look like - many of them don't even have verifications. When I point out that I don't want to give my number to someone I don't know, nor do I know what they look or mention their lack of verifications, they go off on a tangent about it being "typical".
I can't say i'm enjoying being on here anymore to be honest |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would say most of the profiles are runned by men even some of the couples and single women profiles lol. Take a brake in the meeting bit but still use the forum. |
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Tbh mate this site is what you make of it. If you aren't happy to send your number to people with no verifications or pics of their own then just say no thanks.
As for fake pictures report every profile that sends you fake pics claiming it's them.
Finally posts like this rarely work out on here so my advice is if you intend to stay become more active in forums, try to attend some social events and just try to keep a more positive frame of mind. This place is a lot easier to use if you lower your expectations of finding the perfect people to meet instantly. Getting to know the people on the site before exchanging contact info is a lot better than just giving them to all and sundry in the hope you found someone genuine |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What's the challenge you have accepted???? "
"I dare a single guy to repost this thread, just change "guys" to "women." I double dare you.
-Courtney"
https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/435143 |
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"What's the challenge you have accepted????
I dare a single guy to repost this thread, just change "guys" to "women." I double dare you.
-Courtney
https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/435143"
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"Tbh mate this site is what you make of it. If you aren't happy to send your number to people with no verifications or pics of their own then just say no thanks.
As for fake pictures report every profile that sends you fake pics claiming it's them.
Finally posts like this rarely work out on here so my advice is if you intend to stay become more active in forums, try to attend some social events and just try to keep a more positive frame of mind. This place is a lot easier to use if you lower your expectations of finding the perfect people to meet instantly. Getting to know the people on the site before exchanging contact info is a lot better than just giving them to all and sundry in the hope you found someone genuine "
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Well that's just my humble opinion but I've been here a long time and had a lot of meets and met some amazing people who have become great friends.
Use fab however it best suits you. Sounds like it's working for you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you don't like the messages you've been receiving, block messages and do your own searching. Be proactive and find those profiles you like the look of. Set your own rules and act upon them, whether that be ignoring unverified profiles or not engaging with anyone who wants your phone number too soon.
As everyone always says to the women on here, effort in = reward out.
If something looks like it might be too good to be true it probably is.
And above all, this should all be fun and if it's not why not take a little break. You don't have to delete completely, you could always hide your profile for a while and come back if you wan |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hi folks, I am becoming bitterly disappointed in my experiences here on this site in recent months. Nearly every time I've gotten to chat to a woman on kik/whatsapp, they've been to be using fake pics on here in the first place. That's incredibly frustrating and a huge waste of my time.
Secondly the couples who have decided to send me a message demand I send my phone number to them after like 3-4 messages without me knowing who they look like - many of them don't even have verifications. When I point out that I don't want to give my number to someone I don't know, nor do I know what they look or mention their lack of verifications, they go off on a tangent about it being "typical".
I can't say i'm enjoying being on here anymore to be honest"
Fancy a fuck? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What's the challenge you have accepted????
I dare a single guy to repost this thread, just change "guys" to "women." I double dare you.
-Courtney
https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/435143"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't looked at the challenge link posted above so this could be a big wind up!
All I would say ever since I've 'known' you, you've never really appeared to be into the whole meeting up / swinging thing.
You've come / gone a few times & seem to spend a lot of time with a shadow avatar & hidden profile.
To people outside of the forum world ( where you are Mr Popular) I would suggest your profile doesn't do you justice.
Maybe that's part of the problem..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I got asked for my fone no. Yesterday after just 2 messages i just told her to fuck right off,now she is unlos
That's a sad story."
Sad but true and i would do it again,who would send their no. Straight away? |
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Kudos, sir. What do I owe you?
-Courtney
A shiny apple will do.
With or without the bj?  "
If I knew there was a bj in it, I would have started this thread. I wouldn't have coughed the truth so quickly kly either   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I haven't looked at the challenge link posted above so this could be a big wind up!
All I would say ever since I've 'known' you, you've never really appeared to be into the whole meeting up / swinging thing.
You've come / gone a few times & seem to spend a lot of time with a shadow avatar & hidden profile.
To people outside of the forum world ( where you are Mr Popular) I would suggest your profile doesn't do you justice.
Maybe that's part of the problem....."
What wrong with my profile? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If I knew there was a bj in it, I would have started this thread. I wouldn't have coughed the truth so quickly kly either "
It's cool - people generally only read the first couple of posts anyway. |
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"I haven't looked at the challenge link posted above so this could be a big wind up!
All I would say ever since I've 'known' you, you've never really appeared to be into the whole meeting up / swinging thing.
You've come / gone a few times & seem to spend a lot of time with a shadow avatar & hidden profile.
To people outside of the forum world ( where you are Mr Popular) I would suggest your profile doesn't do you justice.
Maybe that's part of the problem.....
What wrong with my profile?"
It looks like you are a fake. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I haven't looked at the challenge link posted above so this could be a big wind up!
All I would say ever since I've 'known' you, you've never really appeared to be into the whole meeting up / swinging thing.
You've come / gone a few times & seem to spend a lot of time with a shadow avatar & hidden profile.
To people outside of the forum world ( where you are Mr Popular) I would suggest your profile doesn't do you justice.
Maybe that's part of the problem.....
What wrong with my profile?"
It's hidden.
I've seen but not read the other thread so this is obvs a joke.
Still I stand by my advice to you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ha ha u actually copied that ladies post n reposted it"
Yep ~ not much of a 'challenge' when you're a regular forum user tho.
Does she know you've copied her post yet? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What's the challenge you have accepted???? "
to post a thread about being pissed off and for a further 30 forumites to piss him off further ,we are not quite their yet ,look my friend theirs a famous saying on fab " patience is the key " and it is ,you will be let down many times you may even spend money ,you will be blocked and not even know the reason why ,you will be sent pics that bear no resemblance to the person and you will witness bareback a lot ,you will read women's profiles just keep saying that to yourself " I will read women's and couples profiles " you will come into forums and have the piss took out of you ,good luck though  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yep ~ not much of a 'challenge' when you're a regular forum user tho.
Pffft... I got an apple out of it.
*shrugs*"
cool, you'll have something to munch on |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hi folks, I am becoming bitterly disappointed in my experiences here on this site in recent months. Nearly every time I've gotten to chat to a woman on kik/whatsapp, they've been to be using fake pics on here in the first place. That's incredibly frustrating and a huge waste of my time.
Secondly the couples who have decided to send me a message demand I send my phone number to them after like 3-4 messages without me knowing who they look like - many of them don't even have verifications. When I point out that I don't want to give my number to someone I don't know, nor do I know what they look or mention their lack of verifications, they go off on a tangent about it being "typical".
I can't say i'm enjoying being on here anymore to be honest"
put your big pants on and deal with it ! Or just go simples ( thicker skin needed) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hi folks, I am becoming bitterly disappointed in my experiences here on this site in recent months. Nearly every time I've gotten to chat to a woman on kik/whatsapp, they've been to be using fake pics on here in the first place. That's incredibly frustrating and a huge waste of my time.
Secondly the couples who have decided to send me a message demand I send my phone number to them after like 3-4 messages without me knowing who they look like - many of them don't even have verifications. When I point out that I don't want to give my number to someone I don't know, nor do I know what they look or mention their lack of verifications, they go off on a tangent about it being "typical".
I can't say i'm enjoying being on here anymore to be honest"
Not happy with the people who are contacting you, stop the "woe is me" stuff, get off your backside and start contacting people yourself. You'll find it a harder than you think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yep ~ not much of a 'challenge' when you're a regular forum user tho.
Pffft... I got an apple out of it.
*shrugs*
I like Courtney's apples.
We all like Courtneys apples  "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?  "
Yep it's a pisstake of the other thread.
He's shadow avatar will still dazzle the forum.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
Yep it's a pisstake of the other thread.
He's shadow avatar will still dazzle the forum.... "
That's what I thought. Are all the hostile responses to him tongue in cheek too then? I'm having an autistic moment....  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
Yep it's a pisstake of the other thread.
He's shadow avatar will still dazzle the forum....
That's what I thought. Are all the hostile responses to him tongue in cheek too then? I'm having an autistic moment.... "
That's for everyone to decide really. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
You are correct "
I think I might change my mind and mean it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
You are correct
I think I might change my mind and mean it."
Don't do that! I'm confused enough as it is |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
You are correct
I think I might change my mind and mean it."
No! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yep ~ not much of a 'challenge' when you're a regular forum user tho.
Pffft... I got an apple out of it.
*shrugs*
I like Courtney's apples.
We all like Courtneys apples
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I prefer courtneys buns |
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
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I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
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I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle? |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
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Are you shocked/absolutely shocked/not shocked at all?
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle?"
No Op you maybe a nice bloke for all i know but on this post i will tell you what it reminds me of and why my answers no .
the simple reason is this it reminds me of the so called in crowd at school sitting there in their little group doing parodies of kids less fortunate than them as they walk past effectively bullying them for laughs for kicks.
I had no truck with it then and I'll have no truck with now as 46 year old man.
Like I said I will give you the benefit of doubt that it was a silly idea that got played out but like a said I want nothing to do with this kind of behavior what so ever
And if I was to meet you in the middle I'd be kind of saying what you have done is OK and sadly in my eyes its not and never will be OK to behave like you have when you wrote this post up .
Again this is my personal opinion yes I maybe over reacting but this is my opinion and mine alone others can make their own minds up on it just like I have . |
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over a year ago
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle?
No Op you maybe a nice bloke for all i know but on this post i will tell you what it reminds me of and why my answers no .
the simple reason is this it reminds me of the so called in crowd at school sitting there in their little group doing parodies of kids less fortunate than them as they walk past effectively bullying them for laughs for kicks.
I had no truck with it then and I'll have no truck with now as 46 year old man.
Like I said I will give you the benefit of doubt that it was a silly idea that got played out but like a said I want nothing to do with this kind of behavior what so ever
And if I was to meet you in the middle I'd be kind of saying what you have done is OK and sadly in my eyes its not and never will be OK to behave like you have when you wrote this post up .
Again this is my personal opinion yes I maybe over reacting but this is my opinion and mine alone others can make their own minds up on it just like I have ."
I find your moral arguments very odd, twice this week you've taken very strong and vociferous stances on questionable topics and been taken to task.
If that's your opinion then by all means keep it but I understand why the OP did this and it wasn't meant as a slight to the lady in question.
Perhaps you should calm yourself and take a second look at the situation |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle?
No Op you maybe a nice bloke for all i know but on this post i will tell you what it reminds me of and why my answers no .
the simple reason is this it reminds me of the so called in crowd at school sitting there in their little group doing parodies of kids less fortunate than them as they walk past effectively bullying them for laughs for kicks.
I had no truck with it then and I'll have no truck with now as 46 year old man.
Like I said I will give you the benefit of doubt that it was a silly idea that got played out but like a said I want nothing to do with this kind of behavior what so ever
And if I was to meet you in the middle I'd be kind of saying what you have done is OK and sadly in my eyes its not and never will be OK to behave like you have when you wrote this post up .
Again this is my personal opinion yes I maybe over reacting but this is my opinion and mine alone others can make their own minds up on it just like I have ."
... Erm, some lass is pissed off because her experience doesn't meet her expectations.
Overreaction time? |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
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You're over-reacting. |
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I recal someone else copying / pasting another users post in the same way a while ago ~ changing the female to a male perspective ~ pretty much got slated for it.....
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
You're over-reacting. "
this..
wonder why?.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I recal someone else copying / pasting another users post in the same way a while ago ~ changing the female to a male perspective ~ pretty much got slated for it.....
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I did a similar thing a couple of years ago,wrote a similar post as a man's from a female pov. I didn't get slated.
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"I recal someone else copying / pasting another users post in the same way a while ago ~ changing the female to a male perspective ~ pretty much got slated for it.....
I did a similar thing a couple of years ago,wrote a similar post as a man's from a female pov. I didn't get slated.
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personally I do think reactions can vary greatly depending on the poster, the delivery and if the day of the week has a Y in it....  |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
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the more you post the funnier you get, you are amusng |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle?
No Op you maybe a nice bloke for all i know but on this post i will tell you what it reminds me of and why my answers no .
the simple reason is this it reminds me of the so called in crowd at school sitting there in their little group doing parodies of kids less fortunate than them as they walk past effectively bullying them for laughs for kicks.
I had no truck with it then and I'll have no truck with now as 46 year old man.
Like I said I will give you the benefit of doubt that it was a silly idea that got played out but like a said I want nothing to do with this kind of behavior what so ever
And if I was to meet you in the middle I'd be kind of saying what you have done is OK and sadly in my eyes its not and never will be OK to behave like you have when you wrote this post up .
Again this is my personal opinion yes I maybe over reacting but this is my opinion and mine alone others can make their own minds up on it just like I have ."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, because your moral compass is spot on right !!! |
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"I recal someone else copying / pasting another users post in the same way a while ago ~ changing the female to a male perspective ~ pretty much got slated for it.....
I did a similar thing a couple of years ago,wrote a similar post as a man's from a female pov. I didn't get slated.
personally I do think reactions can vary greatly depending on the poster, the delivery and if the day of the week has a Y in it.... "
I was wondering what peoples' reactions would be if a woman had posted and not a man. |
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"I think what he's done is in bad taste and a piss take at best .
Poor girl in the other post comes to mind and before you start I'd think the same if it was a male post he was using in this way.
I find nothing funny in it what so ever nor is it ironic at all .
If its meant to show the differences in how woman and men are viewed what's was the point nothing will change it is what it is .
Three are other ways of going about doing that that don't involved belittling another site users post to make a point .
Like I said in my opinion its kind of creepy don't ask me why and also it rings alarm bells in the back if my head .
Distaste full at best and at worse god knows what .
All I know is a want nothing to do with this sort of behavior what so ever on line or off line .
I can see how it could be misconstrued as being a little insensitive (not my intention) but there is a chance you are being over-sensitive about it.
Meet in the middle?
No Op you maybe a nice bloke for all i know but on this post i will tell you what it reminds me of and why my answers no .
the simple reason is this it reminds me of the so called in crowd at school sitting there in their little group doing parodies of kids less fortunate than them as they walk past effectively bullying them for laughs for kicks.
I had no truck with it then and I'll have no truck with now as 46 year old man.
Like I said I will give you the benefit of doubt that it was a silly idea that got played out but like a said I want nothing to do with this kind of behavior what so ever
And if I was to meet you in the middle I'd be kind of saying what you have done is OK and sadly in my eyes its not and never will be OK to behave like you have when you wrote this post up .
Again this is my personal opinion yes I maybe over reacting but this is my opinion and mine alone others can make their own minds up on it just like I have .
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, because your moral compass is spot on right !!! "
I've actually got tears now through laughter |
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I just spent ten minutes reading through that whilst making a brew. Safe to say i am no clearer as to what just happened as when i started...
Wheres the digestives? |
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"I just spent ten minutes reading through that whilst making a brew. Safe to say i am no clearer as to what just happened as when i started...
Wheres the digestives? I've got chocolate digestives"
You have raised the stakes... Now if add caramel in and its a party |
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"I just spent ten minutes reading through that whilst making a brew. Safe to say i am no clearer as to what just happened as when i started...
Wheres the digestives? I've got chocolate digestives
You have raised the stakes... Now if add caramel in and its a party"
in fact I've got nearly a whole packet, its the only way I can get meets |
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"I don't understand this thread. Lib was joking, right? It was in response to Courtney on another thread, wasn't it?
You are correct
I think I might change my mind and mean it.
Don't do that! I'm confused enough as it is "
I'm confused to now are you autistic as well ,I'm here to help  |
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