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One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha? |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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It depends....in life and work I am certainly no walk over that is for sure.
If I am your friend however, then you have a friend for life however don't piss me off because I do not take that lightly (though it takes a lot to get me in that position) |
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over a year ago
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No, I would say I'm more confident at work with people who know me & know my sense of humour.
I'm a little bit intimidated by some on here. But that's my problem, not theirs. |
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"No, I would say I'm more confident at work with people who know me & know my sense of humour.
I'm a little bit intimidated by some on here. But that's my problem, not theirs."
Interesting you say that as you come across as very confident on here 
When I say alpha, I don't mean a direct comparison to male alphas. Perhaps no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible women! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive."
I find that some men can be equally guilty of such behaviour..... |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive."
I agree but I think that is more adopting an alpha male persona and they usually fall on their face as they gt to board level. A good few would have achieved on their own merit, they were fantastic without the alpha shit.
Alpha females on here, a few and they truly stand out. It's great to see. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Confidence is a sexy trait, and if it isn't there initially it's always a good thing to encourage.
I love women who own their sexuality ... not necessarily on a sub or domme level, just that they're in control of their own minds and needs.
I think it's 'cos I was brought up believing sex was something "men did to women" - so in my opinion, anything that turns the tables on tradition and shows women as sexual beings (rather than objects) is totally hot in my book.
I think I've worded that properly - I'm not always as articulate as I'd like to be.  |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive."
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher. |
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Not considered it though I have resistance from a few women that I study with who don't like my clarity.
I'm not around to dominate but to experience life, so make that my focus.
I do fight the occasional jerk who presumes they can subdue me and have no limits to my fight if others don't respect me.
Just be yourself and in general there's no need to struggle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not an alpha at all but I'm not sure that has anything to do with my gender. If I woke up tomorrow in a male body I'd be a quiet friendly type rather than a self-assured leader type. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I do agree that a woman 'owning herself' is a fantastic trait but I find that sometimes a woman trying to be alpha is guilty of acting like she thinks a man would do in that situation and can be too aggressive. I've worked with many women who think like that and are horrible because of it. A true alpha is strong and gentle both men and women |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It depends, I was told the other day I was sexually confident and I know what I want, in a meet situation and on here in completely different to how I represent myself in real life, I have no issue chatting to men etc on a meet but give me a real life man down the pub and I'm a tongue tied mess |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"I do agree that a woman 'owning herself' is a fantastic trait but I find that sometimes a woman trying to be alpha is guilty of acting like she thinks a man would do in that situation and can be too aggressive. I've worked with many women who think like that and are horrible because of it. A true alpha is strong and gentle both men and women"
Sounds like a description of Theresa May. |
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This is a great topic! 
I'm not sure I would ever call myself alpha but I'm strong and secure in myself. I'm not interested in suffering fools but I'm not a bitch. I can hold my own when I need to but I cry when I'm mad. It infuriates the life out of me cause I think of all the things I could have said later on. I like to think I'm decent and fair and I'm honest and loyal. If those things make me alpha then yeah, I'll take that. 
I'm confident I guess cause my parents taught me that. I know my limits though and I'm happy to put my hands up if I'm wrong. Doesn't happen much though.
It's lovely to see strong women holding their own in all aspects of my life. |
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over a year ago
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I don't think I am but I'm not one of the pack either.
We did a personality test at work on a team building day and majority got pack, some got leaders but I was a analyser.
Which basically means I prefer others to be in control but I'm always analysing the situation to see if it could be done better or in a more productive way and although I prefer to stay back in the sidelines if I feel I need to say something I will and can be relied upon to help etc |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"It depends....in life and work I am certainly no walk over that is for sure.
If I am your friend however, then you have a friend for life however don't piss me off because I do not take that lightly (though it takes a lot to get me in that position)"
My outlook on life has a lot to do with my upbringing....I was brought up army and by parents who taught me I can do anything I want to, however where as I don't suffer fools gladly I am protective of those I love. I think there is a big difference to the meaning 'alpha' though. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
In real life, I am confident and in-charge
On FabS, I sometimes am insecure; but I am still assertive (not dominant) |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"This is a great topic!
I'm not sure I would ever call myself alpha but I'm strong and secure in myself. I'm not interested in suffering fools but I'm not a bitch. I can hold my own when I need to but I cry when I'm mad. It infuriates the life out of me cause I think of all the things I could have said later on. I like to think I'm decent and fair and I'm honest and loyal. If those things make me alpha then yeah, I'll take that.
I'm confident I guess cause my parents taught me that. I know my limits though and I'm happy to put my hands up if I'm wrong. Doesn't happen much though.
It's lovely to see strong women holding their own in all aspects of my life. "
I think you are a great example of an Alpha Female. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
My limited personal experience is that those headstrong, intelligent, and "professionally alpha" people are often wanting to switch off from all of that in the bedroom. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?
My limited personal experience is that those headstrong, intelligent, and "professionally alpha" people are often wanting to switch off from all of that in the bedroom. "
Personally speaking? I would have to agree with that |
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I think you are a great example of an Alpha Female. "
 Thank you, that's a lovely thing to say! x
"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?
My limited personal experience is that those headstrong, intelligent, and "professionally alpha" people are often wanting to switch off from all of that in the bedroom.
Personally speaking? I would have to agree with that "
Personally speaking I would too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think I am but I'm not one of the pack either.
We did a personality test at work on a team building day and majority got pack, some got leaders but I was a analyser.
Which basically means I prefer others to be in control but I'm always analysing the situation to see if it could be done better or in a more productive way and although I prefer to stay back in the sidelines if I feel I need to say something I will and can be relied upon to help etc "
I get the same result in personality tests. We all have our uses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do agree that a woman 'owning herself' is a fantastic trait but I find that sometimes a woman trying to be alpha is guilty of acting like she thinks a man would do in that situation and can be too aggressive. I've worked with many women who think like that and are horrible because of it. A true alpha is strong and gentle both men and women"
Bitchy isn't alpha though - I'd have no problem at all working for a female boss ... well apart from having a general attitude problem working for anyone of course.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It depends....in life and work I am certainly no walk over that is for sure.
If I am your friend however, then you have a friend for life however don't piss me off because I do not take that lightly (though it takes a lot to get me in that position)"
horizontal you mean  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
Definitely
What a great thread |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
I find that some men can be equally guilty of such behaviour....."
Tiss true.....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sounds weird but I've had to grow balls and take control around my home with adopting 2 huskies at the start of the year. Give them an inch of control and they'd take the whole mile!
But since they came here I've grown in confidence and can be very alpha when needed. In the bedroom department I'm just getting to know someone but I'm getting there  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i find that the older im getting the more confident i am when i was younger i always was a soft touch with my fam friends n work mates always wanted to be liked etc now tho im stil a push over where my kids are concerned i dnt give a toss what people thnk of me in the words of that song i am what i am |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wouldn't consider myself alpha as such, I have never been a pushover though. I'm not an aggressive person but if don't agree with something I will say.
On here I don't think I'm seen as aggressive but I will challenge someone if I disagree with comments. If I don't want to do something I won't but I don't make excuses for that. I'm not swayed by others either, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
Yeah very. A little bit to much at times
I've been single pretty much all my life, besides the few years I was married, I'm used to being in my own, being my own person, providing for myself and doing everything myself, i find it hard to not be in charge of every part of my life and that includes sexual |
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Been thinking about this some more.
If a woman is tough and aggressive, we see that as mimicking so-called masculine behavior.
Conventionally and historically, aggressiveness as is considered masculine. Men behave so and it's still acceptable. When a woman doers, she's a bitch.
I hate bitchiness, back stabbing and pettiness, would rather get to the point. In business and private.
If that makes a bitch, then I'm a bitch  |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher."
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist.. |
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By *helbeeCouple
over a year ago
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I would consider myself alpha female
im very strong esp since my marriage ended
Its made me a more head strong female
more confidenf, more what i want in life
I know what career wise. Im going in the right direction. Im excelling career wise.im also done
some qualifications, an got top marks
Ive passed 4 qualification s
sexually i know what i want an i know how to get it lol
. Ive experimented sexually in the last few months
im open minded, liberal
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
Love a woman to take control. Aren't we all boys. Come on we love it really. Behind all good men, there's always a better woman ! |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher."
Haha completely disagree with that, that's just a dated opinion on the workplace! The real world is nothing like that these days. |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Haha completely disagree with that, that's just a dated opinion on the workplace! The real world is nothing like that these days."
Perhaps for you but I can assure you that the real world I work in, is exactly like that. It is dated and I'm not sure who's to blame but it's very much alive and well. |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist.."
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Suppose it's one of those things where women will have one opinion and the men will think the opposite. But most certainly the places i have worked at (and it's been a fair few) it's been equal, and if anything the women have got the better jobs. Maybe what some women think as working twice as hard, isn't actually as hard as they think it is? |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
I agree but I think that is more adopting an alpha male persona and they usually fall on their face as they gt to board level. A good few would have achieved on their own merit, they were fantastic without the alpha shit.
Alpha females on here, a few and they truly stand out. It's great to see."
I think you'll find that successful business people are competitive and aggressive in their work regardless of gender - that's a big reason why they're successful.
Unfortunately there are many who will comment on traits in a woman as being not attractive or demean them for it when they wouldn't say or do the same when faced with a man with those traits. |
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"Suppose it's one of those things where women will have one opinion and the men will think the opposite. But most certainly the places i have worked at (and it's been a fair few) it's been equal, and if anything the women have got the better jobs. Maybe what some women think as working twice as hard, isn't actually as hard as they think it is?"
It's all about experience though and I guess it depends what field you work in. I'm in an old school law firm in the private sector. It's a boys club. I work hard, I love my job, I'm paid well and I like the people I work with. However, there is without any doubt an element of misogyny going on. I don't suffer it particularly badly because I'm not a lawyer but you just need to take a look at the maternity package and the way women are treated when they return from maternity leave. There are no guidelines other than at the discretion of the firm. It's not right, it doesn't mean it doesn't go on.
I have an ongoing battle to have our sanitary bins emptied regularly. If men had periods you can bet your ass those bins would be emptied with alarming regularity. That's not a figment of my imagination. The sticker I hid on the bin in the lav nearest to me a month ago is still there. That's basic health and safety. I've been complaining since May (to men). It's been emptied twice in that time. Twice. 60 women in one office, if you've any idea how many sanitary products that is, you'll understand how revolting that is.
I agree that in most sectors we, as a society, have dragged our arses out of the dark ages our firm, and many others like it, are still stuck in the 80's. Things will only change for us when the senior partners retire and someone progressive takes over. I can wait because I know which side my bread is buttered but if I was a lawyer, I'd go somewhere else. Probably in house to a company who doesn't arrange boys golf days to pretty much the exclusion of the women except to serve the drinks! |
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It is kind of a figment of your imagination if your using an example of if men had periods it would be different.
Also for maternity leave, where's the complaints that women get 6 months and men get a few weeks, there aren't any because it's men who miss out and we generally just get on with things more (don't get me started on child access when a couple break up). |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher."
Oh dear. You mean the no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible woman who rose to the highest position in the country?
Was she a little too alpha for you? Or you just blame her for everything because she doesn't suit your politics?  |
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"It is kind of a figment of your imagination if your using an example of if men had periods it would be different.
Also for maternity leave, where's the complaints that women get 6 months and men get a few weeks, there aren't any because it's men who miss out and we generally just get on with things more (don't get me started on child access when a couple break up)."
You get my point though right?
Maternity pay is horrendous. The statutory pay wouldn't cover my mortgage. Of course that's dandy if you've got a husband who's well paid right enough.
You're saying that misogyny doesn't exist. I'm saying it does. The younger men in our place agree. It's not just because I'm a woman that I can see it. |
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"Suppose it's one of those things where women will have one opinion and the men will think the opposite. But most certainly the places i have worked at (and it's been a fair few) it's been equal, and if anything the women have got the better jobs. Maybe what some women think as working twice as hard, isn't actually as hard as they think it is?
It's all about experience though and I guess it depends what field you work in. I'm in an old school law firm in the private sector. It's a boys club. I work hard, I love my job, I'm paid well and I like the people I work with. However, there is without any doubt an element of misogyny going on. I don't suffer it particularly badly because I'm not a lawyer but you just need to take a look at the maternity package and the way women are treated when they return from maternity leave. There are no guidelines other than at the discretion of the firm. It's not right, it doesn't mean it doesn't go on.
I have an ongoing battle to have our sanitary bins emptied regularly. If men had periods you can bet your ass those bins would be emptied with alarming regularity. That's not a figment of my imagination. The sticker I hid on the bin in the lav nearest to me a month ago is still there. That's basic health and safety. I've been complaining since May (to men). It's been emptied twice in that time. Twice. 60 women in one office, if you've any idea how many sanitary products that is, you'll understand how revolting that is.
I agree that in most sectors we, as a society, have dragged our arses out of the dark ages our firm, and many others like it, are still stuck in the 80's. Things will only change for us when the senior partners retire and someone progressive takes over. I can wait because I know which side my bread is buttered but if I was a lawyer, I'd go somewhere else. Probably in house to a company who doesn't arrange boys golf days to pretty much the exclusion of the women except to serve the drinks! "
Could not one of the 60 women just get up and take the bin out to the bin? I worked in an office with ten men and two women and we had no cleaners but the mens toilet was spotless and the womens a shit hole, pardon the pun. Maybe help yourselves |
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
I grew up in a family of strong Irish women. I am pretty Alpha and love my women to be strong as well. Nothing is more sexy than a woman who oozes confidence |
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I've never felt the need to identify as an alpha female or anything similar even though I am the sole bread winner in our home, I'm just me; I go to work, I keep a roof above our heads and provide for my families needs and some of their wants, as I progress through my career I become more confident but still don't feel the need for a label.
Going by what I see on facebook and not here, I see many women that feel the need to constantly reiterate how strong and independent they are, which to me smacks of insecurity and in truth I know they are just mouthy, bitchy and more often than not living off benefits. I guess that's why I don't want the label. |
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Could not one of the 60 women just get up and take the bin out to the bin? I worked in an office with ten men and two women and we had no cleaners but the mens toilet was spotless and the womens a shit hole, pardon the pun. Maybe help yourselves"
The sanitary bins are provided by an external company. I suppose I should be grateful the provide them at all but I dare say if the biological waste was disposed of in a regular bin it would be emptied on a daily basis by the cleaners.
Having cleaned the lavs in the bar I used to work in I would agree, the women's toilets were always in a worse state than the men's. I'm not saying humans can't be revolting regardless of gender, I'm saying you're paying a company for a service that's not being carried out regularly enough for the usage.
I'm not employed as a cleaner and whilst I have no problem in mucking in as part of a team, it's my my responsibility to empty the sanitary bins. |
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over a year ago
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist.."
My male counterpart and me manage similar size teams. In fact, I manage one or two more staff than he does. He spends longer hours at work but I get more done because I devise efficient methods of getting things done. I have higher education than him. He is married and has children and therefore needs long vacations during school holidays. I take shorter vacations and have even cancelled my vacation, when required
He gets paid more than me! When I pointed this out to senior management I was told that there are reasons for the disparity which they could not discuss with me due to confidentiality!
I am not a member of any union; I don't even know how one becomes a member. I contacted an employment solicitor and she said that on the face of it, my employers were discriminating against me based on gender and that I could win on that basis in an employment tribunal. However, her experience is that the working relationship will breakdown and I could end up getting dismissed at a later point in time for an 'unrelated' reason
My insurance company says that I have a less than 50% chance of winning the case so they will not fund it. If I went ahead with it using my own funds and lost, I could, most probably, end up liable for my employer's legal costs too
These inequalities still exist in the 21st century. We are simply made to believe that these don't and that we are just exceptions to the rule |
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Very good post and I sympathise with your predicament. I wish I could offer constructive advise .
I agree that the fairer sex can be much more efficient and productive.
My original post was about the unpleasant side of some women who seem to feel the need always appear to be "better" and to bully when there is no need.
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Could not one of the 60 women just get up and take the bin out to the bin? I worked in an office with ten men and two women and we had no cleaners but the mens toilet was spotless and the womens a shit hole, pardon the pun. Maybe help yourselves
The sanitary bins are provided by an external company. I suppose I should be grateful the provide them at all but I dare say if the biological waste was disposed of in a regular bin it would be emptied on a daily basis by the cleaners.
Having cleaned the lavs in the bar I used to work in I would agree, the women's toilets were always in a worse state than the men's. I'm not saying humans can't be revolting regardless of gender, I'm saying you're paying a company for a service that's not being carried out regularly enough for the usage.
I'm not employed as a cleaner and whilst I have no problem in mucking in as part of a team, it's my my responsibility to empty the sanitary bins. "
Course it is, you're a woman
But seriously, seems more of a problem with the cleaning company then and maybe you could speak to them, or at least the person who comes to clean and ask why its not being emptied regularly? Perhaps its just that individual being lazy |
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"I've never felt the need to identify as an alpha female or anything similar even though I am the sole bread winner in our home, I'm just me; I go to work, I keep a roof above our heads and provide for my families needs and some of their wants, as I progress through my career I become more confident but still don't feel the need for a label.
Going by what I see on facebook and not here, I see many women that feel the need to constantly reiterate how strong and independent they are, which to me smacks of insecurity and in truth I know they are just mouthy, bitchy and more often than not living off benefits. I guess that's why I don't want the label. "
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Course it is, you're a woman
But seriously, seems more of a problem with the cleaning company then and maybe you could speak to them, or at least the person who comes to clean and ask why its not being emptied regularly? Perhaps its just that individual being lazy"
I'm ignoring that first bit!!
That's just it, the way things work I'd be stepping on toes by contacting the cleaning company directly. Back to the office manager who is uninterested. I'm counting days till its been six weeks then I'm going to the company secretary which in itself is ridiculous but she's a full on alpha woman and I'm pretty sure will get the right result. I'll pay for doing that though. 
However, I don't want to hijack this with chat of sanitary bins... there's a thread on it if you're interested enough to search it. |
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Course it is, you're a woman
But seriously, seems more of a problem with the cleaning company then and maybe you could speak to them, or at least the person who comes to clean and ask why its not being emptied regularly? Perhaps its just that individual being lazy
I'm ignoring that first bit!!
That's just it, the way things work I'd be stepping on toes by contacting the cleaning company directly. Back to the office manager who is uninterested. I'm counting days till its been six weeks then I'm going to the company secretary which in itself is ridiculous but she's a full on alpha woman and I'm pretty sure will get the right result. I'll pay for doing that though.
However, I don't want to hijack this with chat of sanitary bins... there's a thread on it if you're interested enough to search it. "
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Course it is, you're a woman
But seriously, seems more of a problem with the cleaning company then and maybe you could speak to them, or at least the person who comes to clean and ask why its not being emptied regularly? Perhaps its just that individual being lazy
I'm ignoring that first bit!!
That's just it, the way things work I'd be stepping on toes by contacting the cleaning company directly. Back to the office manager who is uninterested. I'm counting days till its been six weeks then I'm going to the company secretary which in itself is ridiculous but she's a full on alpha woman and I'm pretty sure will get the right result. I'll pay for doing that though.
However, I don't want to hijack this with chat of sanitary bins... there's a thread on it if you're interested enough to search it.
Yuk no thanks "
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"Having just read the definition,no I'm most definitely not an alpha female. "
Where is the definition? I wouldn't know what an alpha female was like. I'm not headstrong but I don't let people manipulate me or boss me around. I don't need to feel powerful and I don't need to constantly achieve to feel fulfilled. I think I'm probably more a beta female,backing up the alpha. Or maybe I'm nothing,just someone who floats through life keeping away from people if I can. |
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"Alpha at work and with playmates, but happy to take a more "submissive" role in my relationship. "
I think I'm the complete opposite! at work I turn up, do my job and get paid. There is no clear career path but I made the decision that spending time with my kids while they are young was more important than my career. so I've taken a more menial role but in doing so I was able to choose what hours I worked and what days I spent in the office. at home I hate to think what chaos would ensue if I wasn't there for a week so I gues I'm fairly alpha at home. In the bedroom I'm all about equal opportunities |
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"Very good post and I sympathise with your predicament. I wish I could offer constructive advise .
I agree that the fairer sex can be much more efficient and productive.
My original post was about the unpleasant side of some women who seem to feel the need always appear to be "better" and to bully when there is no need.
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At the school where I worked we got a new female head teacher who would often belittle people in public and tear into whole departments with nothing constructive to say. She came across as a bitch and bully,even reducing my male SENCo to tears. I think she had good managerial skills but her personnel skills were crap. She knew she didn't scare me,in her first month she called a meeting with our department and I grilled her on what she had in store for us for the future. |
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"Very good post and I sympathise with your predicament. I wish I could offer constructive advise .
I agree that the fairer sex can be much more efficient and productive.
My original post was about the unpleasant side of some women who seem to feel the need always appear to be "better" and to bully when there is no need.
At the school where I worked we got a new female head teacher who would often belittle people in public and tear into whole departments with nothing constructive to say. She came across as a bitch and bully,even reducing my male SENCo to tears. I think she had good managerial skills but her personnel skills were crap. She knew she didn't scare me,in her first month she called a meeting with our department and I grilled her on what she had in store for us for the future. "
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"......owever, I don't want to hijack this with chat of sanitary bins... there's a thread on it if you're interested enough to search it."
There's an actual thread on sanitary bins? This site never ceases to amaze me! Brilliant. |
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"Very good post and I sympathise with your predicament. I wish I could offer constructive advise .
I agree that the fairer sex can be much more efficient and productive.
My original post was about the unpleasant side of some women who seem to feel the need always appear to be "better" and to bully when there is no need.
At the school where I worked we got a new female head teacher who would often belittle people in public and tear into whole departments with nothing constructive to say. She came across as a bitch and bully,even reducing my male SENCo to tears. I think she had good managerial skills but her personnel skills were crap. She knew she didn't scare me,in her first month she called a meeting with our department and I grilled her on what she had in store for us for the future.
BDSM? "
I wouldn't be surprised She was quite manly in her ways,although she wore suits and heels she wasn't feminine in any way,especially not her personality. I wouldn't like to be tied up by her. |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist.."
1. Name the study.
2. It is totally erroneous that 'all a woman has to do is phone her union' She would have to PROVE mal practise.
3. Just a bunch of women ? who don't realise they are just not as qualified as men ? You said it. That's just your opinion and isn't based on anything reasonable that you could substantiate.
4. Your last sentence is total assumption on your part and appears to be an attempt to 'factualise' a fantasy of your own but put it in the mouths of these imaginary women.
Wearing your sexism openly would be more acceptable than trying to disguise it by slating a gender rather than any real individual.
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Oh dear. You mean the no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible woman who rose to the highest position in the country?
Was she a little too alpha for you? Or you just blame her for everything because she doesn't suit your politics? "
That was sarcasm. Sorry you didn't get the memo. |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist..
My male counterpart and me manage similar size teams. In fact, I manage one or two more staff than he does. He spends longer hours at work but I get more done because I devise efficient methods of getting things done. I have higher education than him. He is married and has children and therefore needs long vacations during school holidays. I take shorter vacations and have even cancelled my vacation, when required
He gets paid more than me! When I pointed this out to senior management I was told that there are reasons for the disparity which they could not discuss with me due to confidentiality!
I am not a member of any union; I don't even know how one becomes a member. I contacted an employment solicitor and she said that on the face of it, my employers were discriminating against me based on gender and that I could win on that basis in an employment tribunal. However, her experience is that the working relationship will breakdown and I could end up getting dismissed at a later point in time for an 'unrelated' reason
My insurance company says that I have a less than 50% chance of winning the case so they will not fund it. If I went ahead with it using my own funds and lost, I could, most probably, end up liable for my employer's legal costs too
These inequalities still exist in the 21st century. We are simply made to believe that these don't and that we are just exceptions to the rule"
That sucks  The glass ceiling still very much exists.
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Oh dear. You mean the no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible woman who rose to the highest position in the country?
Was she a little too alpha for you? Or you just blame her for everything because she doesn't suit your politics?
That was sarcasm. Sorry you didn't get the memo."
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Actually studies show that most women assume this but in reality most of the time the men in higher positions or the same position have more qaulifications or more experience in that role, though when its flipped and theres a woman with more qualifications or experience men dont really bitch about it. What people forget is that it has been illegal for the last how ever many years too pay someone less or more based on there gender and especially in the last 5 years when all a woman has to do is call their union or whoever you have too call and tell them its happening and the company would then be liable for a lawsuit so most companies dont have glass ceilings anymore just a bunch of women who dont realise theyre just not as qualified or experienced but at the sane time after years and years of being treated as lesser beings i can see why most would automatically think that way although the fact you see a man with higher pay and status and automatically assume he got there just because hes a man makes you the sexist..
My male counterpart and me manage similar size teams. In fact, I manage one or two more staff than he does. He spends longer hours at work but I get more done because I devise efficient methods of getting things done. I have higher education than him. He is married and has children and therefore needs long vacations during school holidays. I take shorter vacations and have even cancelled my vacation, when required
He gets paid more than me! When I pointed this out to senior management I was told that there are reasons for the disparity which they could not discuss with me due to confidentiality!
I am not a member of any union; I don't even know how one becomes a member. I contacted an employment solicitor and she said that on the face of it, my employers were discriminating against me based on gender and that I could win on that basis in an employment tribunal. However, her experience is that the working relationship will breakdown and I could end up getting dismissed at a later point in time for an 'unrelated' reason
My insurance company says that I have a less than 50% chance of winning the case so they will not fund it. If I went ahead with it using my own funds and lost, I could, most probably, end up liable for my employer's legal costs too
These inequalities still exist in the 21st century. We are simply made to believe that these don't and that we are just exceptions to the rule
That sucks The glass ceiling still very much exists.
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Work wise because of the role I have in the company I would consider myself an alpha female. Personal wise, not at all, more like the complete opposite.
Great thread, some interesting POV's. |
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
Cropped hair, no neck, flat chest, 15 inch bicepts aint alpha.
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
There is nothing sexier than an Alpha woman!. One that doesn't need looking after and is willing to not only match you but try at every opportunity to beat you!. Love a strong woman  |
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Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?
Cropped hair, no neck, flat chest, 15 inch bicepts aint alpha.
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Alpha is a personality type, not a body type.
Great thread idea btw. I've noticed a rather recent phenomenon of "Domme" ladies who are just extremely rude, tactless people. It's rather depressing. |
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"One thing I've noticed on Fabs is how confident and head strong most of the ladies appear, which is utterly fabulous and refreshing.
Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?"
Im confident enough behind my keyboard or webcam, but face to face, become quite shy and overly chatty, usually because im fancying the man im with. Sometimes though I dont know what to say, usually because ive met someone who I dont have anything in common with, my mistake that, not theirs. Definately not alpha, more a follower  |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Oh dear. You mean the no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible woman who rose to the highest position in the country?
Was she a little too alpha for you? Or you just blame her for everything because she doesn't suit your politics?
That was sarcasm. Sorry you didn't get the memo.
No it wasn't"
Sorry I didn't put in a smiley face or such like. So much gets lost in translation.
If we were in a pub, it'd be as a gag, as an aside.
Please don't assume to know my intention. |
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Ladies, regardless of your sexual preference, would you consider yourself alpha?
Cropped hair, no neck, flat chest, 15 inch bicepts aint alpha.
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Great thread idea btw. I've noticed a rather recent phenomenon of "Domme" ladies who are just extremely rude, tactless people. It's rather depressing. "
Thanks.
I used to be rude, comes from insecurity in an attempt to assert oneself. Now I'm just blunt |
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Great thread idea btw. I've noticed a rather recent phenomenon of "Domme" ladies who are just extremely rude, tactless people. It's rather depressing.
Thanks.
I used to be rude, comes from insecurity in an attempt to assert oneself. Now I'm just blunt"
That was my assumption of them. I prefer ladies that con dominate with a smile, a raised eyebrow or simply a snap of their fingers. |
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"I find that many women in business feel the need to always win and beat men down. It's not attractive.
It's not but most women have to work twice as hard to gain higher positions, hence the aggressiveness. I blame Thatcher.
Oh dear. You mean the no nonsense, tough, don't suffer fools, kick arse, incredible woman who rose to the highest position in the country?
Was she a little too alpha for you? Or you just blame her for everything because she doesn't suit your politics?
That was sarcasm. Sorry you didn't get the memo.
No it wasn't
Sorry I didn't put in a smiley face or such like. So much gets lost in translation.
If we were in a pub, it'd be as a gag, as an aside.
Please don't assume to know my intention."
Ok. Well you should have put a smiley face after saying that women have to work twice as hard too then because that surely is a gag.
Unless of course they are only half as good |
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I used to be rude, comes from insecurity in an attempt to assert oneself. Now I'm just blunt"
was that you mimicking what you had seen others do or what you thought was assertive |
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I used to be rude, comes from insecurity in an attempt to assert oneself. Now I'm just blunt
was that you mimicking what you had seen others do or what you thought was assertive"
I guess the aggresiveness came from anger. Having been in the army, subjected to misogynistic bullying and unable to speak about it, I left very bitter and became a bit of a bitch. Learnt to let go now.
But I've always been assertive. Used to sit on and pin boys to the floor during kiss chase. That's always been there |
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I used to be rude, comes from insecurity in an attempt to assert oneself. Now I'm just blunt
was that you mimicking what you had seen others do or what you thought was assertive
I guess the aggresiveness came from anger. Having been in the army, subjected to misogynistic bullying and unable to speak about it, I left very bitter and became a bit of a bitch. Learnt to let go now.
But I've always been assertive. Used to sit on and pin boys to the floor during kiss chase. That's always been there "
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