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when will americans admit guns are a problem
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"And yet again Americans are called stupid. The theme continues. I agree that guns are an issue, but the speed with which stupidity is mentioned with regards to Americans is increasing rapidly with each thread posted about them... -Courtney" Not ALL Americans. Mostly Republicans. | |||
"Suppose there were draconian gun control measures. Are you so naive to think that someone determined enough to go on a killing spree wouldn't be able to get a gun from somewhere? I can nip out of our house and a few streets, away get hold of all manner of weapons if I were that way inclined, and our gun laws are tough." Nope just less chance of it happening...and did you know...15.000 people per commit suicide with guns in America | |||
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"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." We've had gun massacres in Britain committed by lone madmen at Dunblane and Hungerford, more recently Raul Moat and Derek Bird. We have strong gun laws here and it hasn't stopped these tragedies. | |||
"Suppose there were draconian gun control measures. Are you so naive to think that someone determined enough to go on a killing spree wouldn't be able to get a gun from somewhere? I can nip out of our house and a few streets, away get hold of all manner of weapons if I were that way inclined, and our gun laws are tough." Are you so naive to think that the ease at which guns are available is not the problem? Guns capable of these mass shootings are very hard to get hold of in this country. The people who bang on about their right to own a gun are not the type of people who should be owning guns. | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem. We've had gun massacres in Britain committed by lone madmen at Dunblane and Hungerford, more recently Raul Moat and Derek Bird. We have strong gun laws here and it hasn't stopped these tragedies." Care to count the shootings in this country to the amount in the states? | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." i think YOU need to realise that not all americans don't realise there isn't a problem.... I hate to bring it down to simple red state/ blue state situations.... part of the problem is the money of the NRA is giving to red state politicians and frightens blue state politicians in marginal districts/states so nothing gets done.... | |||
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"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." Guns are used here to kill people too. The problem is the people who do the killings with guns, knives, golf clubs, baseball bats ..... | |||
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"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem. Guns are used here to kill people too. The problem is the people who do the killings with guns, knives, golf clubs, baseball bats ....." I personally dont think you can compere here to the states one bit...on average 323 people per day are shot dead in america | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." Think you'll find that guns are harmless hunks of metal, no more dangerous than a knife or hammer. It is the people who mis-use them that are the problem. Guns are no more responsible for the murders than a pen is for poor spelling. However when you give morons and imbeciles easy access to them, that's the problem. | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem. We've had gun massacres in Britain committed by lone madmen at Dunblane and Hungerford, more recently Raul Moat and Derek Bird. We have strong gun laws here and it hasn't stopped these tragedies. Care to count the shootings in this country to the amount in the states? " Not particularly, seeing as the population of the USA is a lot higher than that of Britain it will be a lot higher for that reason alone regardless of the different gun laws. | |||
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"Is Charlton Heston dead yet ?" Isnt he running for the Republican presidency  | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem. We've had gun massacres in Britain committed by lone madmen at Dunblane and Hungerford, more recently Raul Moat and Derek Bird. We have strong gun laws here and it hasn't stopped these tragedies. Care to count the shootings in this country to the amount in the states? Not particularly, seeing as the population of the USA is a lot higher than that of Britain it will be a lot higher for that reason alone regardless of the different gun laws. " U.S. population is about 5 times that of the UK. Since Dunblane when the UK introduced new gun controls there have been zero mass shootings in UK schools. | |||
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"The American gun lobby is way too powerful for the problem to ever get solved" absolutely. ...so powerful that it will not be moved...! Big business it is...and republican backed it is not likely to change. And in many parts of the US....the right to bare arms is seen as sacrosanct. They still think it's the wild west. It's dire. ..but change is not likely. ..and very sad. | |||
"It's not the gun that's the problem,it's the nutter that is stood behind it,no gun on its own has killed enyone ?. "What if the nutter behind it couldn't easily get hold of one | |||
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"45 mass shootings in the U.S. This year alone! But comparing UK and U.S. Is pointless. People kill people not guns or knives etc yes stopping mad killers getting them or at least making it hard helps but as I said before they are already there, millions of them because it's been in their psychi for hundred plus years. I know people there who genuinely think the problem is not enough ordinary sensible people carry! They argue if teachers or staff in schools were armed ( like on an aircraft there) they would deal with shooters! They also argue that shootings are increasingly targeted at gun control areas because it's easier to shoot more before you get shot. Different mentality altogether but I do see the point about guns already there mean bans can't work" Arming everyone in gun free zones would do more harm than good. Why? Because how do you know that all of those people you're arming are good? They might not be. More guns do not make people safer. The answer to the gun problem is not more guns. Also, a situation like that would not play out in the same way that it does in the movies. For example, after the first shooter starts shooting, another "good guy" draws out his gun and shoots at the shooter. Now at this point, you have two people shooting, probably within seconds of when the original shooter began. Meanwhile, everyone else is extremely confused and some other "good guys" might take out their guns and start shooting too. Except because the first and second shooters started within seconds of each other, it is impossible to even tell who the original shooter even was. This creates a crossfire where "good guys" are shooting people they think might be the shooter, except it's impossible to tell because now, everyones shooting. Now, if all of the "good guys" were just shooting at each other that would be one thing, but even trained police officers only hit their targets one time out of five. So many other bystanders would be caught up in this crossfire and killed too. When you look at it that way, an untrained "good guy" with a gun would most likely do more harm than good. Furthermore, arming every woman, man, and child to prepare for a mass shooting might SEEM like a good idea, but what happens to all of those guns until the day mass shooter comes along? They are just sitting there, waiting to be used innapropriately, and often do get used as such. For every gun used in a justifiable self defense, there are 20 guns used the wrong way. Would arming everyone just like the wild west make you feel safer? Would you be content letting our society backslide to the 1800's? While that might be a wet dream of the NRA, thats not the type of society I want to live in. The answer to Americas gun problem is not arming everyone, it's to slowly disarm, starting with thorough background checks. Gun control is the answer, not more guns. | |||
"how many more columbine/virgina tech incidents need to to happen before mr. obama does anything???" Blaming Obama?? 
I'm biting my tongue... | |||
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"he's the most powerful man in the US, so the buck stops with him." You know it's a democracy, right? Senate, house of representatives, that kind of thing? | |||
"he's the most powerful man in the US, so the buck stops with him." Afraid it dosent...if it did..he would pass the law tomorrow outlawing guns...his hands are tied | |||
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"so it's a case of the deaf leading the blind eh?" Its a case of getting it past the House of representatives...which is normally held by the opposition | |||
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he then asked me if I wanted to visit Virginia Tech...
I was a little scared to be honest... | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." they no it's a problem what the hell they going to do about it now ,you can go into Walmart (Asda) and buy a machine gun ,when someone gets angry in America you're not talking a few cuts and bruises you're talking dead ,my brother who lives in America went to a bar with a few friends they had a minor altercation with a guy in bar ,the guy waited outside in his car and followed them home started firing his weapon through living room window  | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem.they no it's a problem what the hell they going to do about it now ,you can go into Walmart (Asda) and buy a machine gun ,when someone gets angry in America you're not talking a few cuts and bruises you're talking dead ,my brother who lives in America went to a bar with a few friends they had a minor altercation with a guy in bar ,the guy waited outside in his car and followed them home started firing his weapon through living room window "they know it's etc | |||
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"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem. Guns are used here to kill people too. The problem is the people who do the killings with guns, knives, golf clubs, baseball bats ..... I personally dont think you can compere here to the states one bit...on average 323 people per day are shot dead in america " Maybe their population is a tad higher. And maybe more people here are killed using baseball bats. If so, baseball bats should be banned | |||
"Too many times now Americans are killed in mass shootings. At what point will action be taken? Are they too stupid to realise that guns are the problem." They all know they are, the National Rifle Association in the us Lobby(give money to, bribe) the political parties not to pass new gun regulations. According to the NRA they need more guns, arm all teachers, arm everyone? Another example of big business and wealthy people making loads of money while innocent kids get shot in the head for being Christian | |||
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